Twinsisters

March 11, 2001

This is in regard to twin no. 1. What I saw at first glance was that the

lord of the 9th (father) was debilitated in the 12th in Cancer with

Venus. The fact that the lord of the 9th is debilitated and in the 12th

tells us something about the father. When Venus or Mars aspect each other

or are conjunct (which is even stronger) intense passion and sexual

energy are released especially in such a sexually charge house as the

12th. The 12th house is the father's property and if he was as perverse

as some of these indications would reveal, then perhaps he looked on Twin

no 1 as his property. Cancer also is a karaka of family which would tend

to suggest abuse within the family. The abuse took place during Moon

Mahadasha when these 12 house karmas came to fruition. I concur with

Wendy's assessment of twin no. 2, but my feeling is that twin 1 was the

one physically abused with twin 2 as a witness of such sad events,

obviously a victim of sexual abuse as well. Namaste, Jeff

March 12, 2001

I don't feel confident enough to do a rectification of the fathers

chart,but in the mothers chart we have the ASC lord strong in the

ascendant, but with little support from his friends. Venus is in Leo with

the Sun in the 12th and Saturn in the 6th in his own sign (a good

placement for a malefic in an upachaya house). Still both Venus and

Saturn are in Dusthana houses (grief producing houses). The moon

(mind/manas) is debilitated in the third with Jupiter in Scorpio. Rahu is

in the fourth (mother,family, emotions) the most sensitive house in the

horoscope. This placement could be beneficial for marriage if the lord of

the seventh were well placed, but Jupiter is conjunct a debilitated moon

and debilitated in the 12th in the Navamsha. Also Jupiter owns two angles

which according to Sage Parashara diminishes his ability to good. Also

benefics in the third tend to make the person timid or cowardly which

might explain why the mother did not intervene on behalf of the twins. It

could be argued that she did not know, but this is seldom the case. Mars

is debilitated in Cancer in the 11th house of desires. This combined with

the bad placement of Venus has got to harm the sexuality of the

individual to some degree. The karaka of father with Venus in the 12th

and the aspect of debilitated Mars to the 2nd house (early childhood)

certainly lend to the possibility of her own sexual abuse as a child.

It's all to common for people to pick partners like their opposite sex

parent and for her to marry a child molester would not be out of

character. Also, looking at the Moon chart, Mars is debilitated in the

9th(father) and Sun is with Venus in the 10th. Rahu in the 4th harms

motherhood as does Moon in Scorpio. She does have a waxing moon, 50% full

which helps her cope in normal life as does 5th house Saturn in the 6th

in its own sign. Nevertheless, the chart is incredibly challenged and the

mind and sexuality are disturbed. Mercury who is in his sign of

exaltation has no aspects and his friends Venus and Saturn are of little

help. Namaste, Jeff

March 13, 2001

Dear friends,

thanks a lot for your complex reflections!

Here is the answer: the virgotwin assured me, that only her sister, the

leotwin had been abused by her father.

In their childhood the girls day and night wore a golden bracelet with their

name. So, the father easily could identify the same daughter.

The liontwin later married about the age of 22. Just to this time she never

had got her menstruation. This marriage soon endet in divorce.

After this she had a partner for several years, who abused her sexually and

who several times tried to kill her with a knife. She was in hospital for a

few times but needed a long time to separate from him.

Then she began consuming drugs and spending a lot of money for

designerdresses. She often needed financiel support from her sister and her

parents.

Some years ago she started her first cosmetic operation, meanwhile she has

completey changed her outlook like M. Jackson. She hated to look like her

sister.

Since 10 or 12 years she owns a kind of beautyshop for fingernails.

She prefers living extremly even if she would die earlier.

Now, in her jupiterdasa she tries a little bit contacting her sister and her

sister`s family.

The virgotwin got fear of death, when her sister was brought into hospital

because of her illness of tbc. She felt herself guilty and it was the first

time, the sisters were separated. She was not allowed to visit her sister in

hospital and believed that her sister was dead. Teribbly nightmares began:

that millions of snakes were around her. She heared voices! Her mother

called her trippy. Until the age of 12 she slept in her parents bed.

Later she married, got a deathbirth, then divorce came.

She married again and now has 2 children with her husband who loves her very

much.

She learned several therapeutic sorts, like aurasoma, rebirthing and reiki

and has begun to overcome the affliction of her childhood.

So far. If you have somemore questions, I will try to answer them.

I myself also believe that we can confirm the abuse of the 1. twin in her

horoscope. And I also agree with Jeff that the mother might have been abused

from her father. Additionally I played a bit with the asteroid chiron, who

for me symbolizes any kind of injury. In the mothers` case we find chiron in

her 9. house , exactly on the arabian part: most dangerous year.

Ceres, another asteroid, I allways like to calculate in the case of death

or sexual abuse ( her daughter had been abused by pluto) is in the

mothers`3. houses, as it is the 8. from the 8.

The arabian part for the father is in the mothers` 6. house exactly forming

a quincunx with mars.

The abused twin has pluto with the acendant and Uranus, who cutted up her

childhood and her soul.

Her arabian point of death is in 12 with gulika, mars and venus.

I believe in Samuel Hahnemann, who said: test them all and keep the best. So

I work vedic but I look around...

Finally I asked my patient: "are you sure that it was allways your sister,

being abused?" She answered: "sometimes I doubt".

This is for Wendy and Jeff.

For Mani I would like to say: the sisters love her father inspite he broke

the frontieres and they spent the best hollidays with him alone later...

and they have difficulties with their mother....

Best wishes and some interesting cases for you later, Ilona

March 13, 2001

Hello Ilona,

Thanks for the answer to the puzzle. I must say I'm surprised that the 2nd

twin was not involved more directly as her horoscope would suggest. Has she

ever had any hypnosis sessions to uncover suppressed memory.

I have to agree with Mani that (at the age of 3-5) penetration would have

resulted in (immediate) serious injury...more serious than delayed

menstruation...

As for 1st twins sexual abuse from her partner this is no surprise with

Venus in 12th.

The drug consumption can be seen with the exchange between 1/2 lords (2nd

house shows "partaking of wrong foods" [including drugs])...reaffirmed with

2nd lord Mercury in constellation of Venus (in 12th house of drugs).

2nd twin, like her Mother, has Mars aspecting 5th house of children which

can harm children...stillbirth, miscarriages, etc...

Interesting study,

Wendy