Guest guest Posted March 18, 2001 Report Share Posted March 18, 2001 Hello Mani, Every body is afraid of test, so is me. any how I give my views about the chart you present. The stress area in this chart is Venus making trines with Mars and Saturn. The person is of good personality, down to earth , don't like to oppose others. Mars in 8th and Venus making trines is not a good combination for family life.5h house strength gives lot of brains , but of no use to the individual concerned , I have seen such persons providing/useful to others but not for their own venture. Saturn is basically connected with profession in this chart, gives job or works connected with farming, vegetables , or areas related to 12th and 5th house matters or it could be some technical one. Such persons enjoy there life even if they don't have much money due to fertile brain. I did not participate in your meat discussion being away on vocations, you know what I mean. With Regards, Inder Jit Sahni. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2001 Report Share Posted April 3, 2001 Dear Patrice and others who tried my test case, As I said, I gave the TOB as in the birth certificate, but the midwife definitely gave me a time - the same evening as my son was born - that was 15 minutes earlier. What amazed me was that all had found great brains but its being of no use. Also that the outers were taken into account! As a father and relative beginner in astrology, using western sideral, was overjoyed at getting a genius - a "remarkable" thinker - as son. The first 8 months justified this, till the sudden change came. If I remember right, GJ1 found "mathibramayoga" but GJ 2.2 does not! regards Mani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2001 Report Share Posted April 3, 2001 Hello, Since I "knew" from the beginning that the 'test case' was Mani's son, my view, of the same indicators that made other guess that the person was a genius- as a disorder, doesn't count. But, following this I've got one (more)compelling example that it is not always easy to draw the line btw. the two. Many of those we consider as genius today, were either school failures, maladjusted, unaccepted by their contemporaries, not very happy, etc. In fact very high IQ is not a blessing for happiness on mundane level, at all- detachment is mostly their destiny. Researches have shown that for one to be the leader, one must not have IQ too much higher from their followers (look at politicians),since he/she wouldn't have them- people around him wouldn't be able to identify with him, to accept him- even worse, would consider a person a weirdoes, and if the person cannot change the environment, for those closer to his intelligence, the opinion of others gets internalized, self-perception, as well, and the person becomes what others have seen he is. I wish I knew DOB of a famous chess players, Robert Fisher, who failed miserably on more than half of the (common battery) IQ tests- and had extremely high scores on two (as I've read in in some profess. bilten). And nobody denies he was a genius- and "crazy" as well. Mani said that outer planets were considered in this case: no wonder, because the personal planets, and important points,as well, particularly when they are "besieged" by outers, give us a warning signal-ALWAYS, that something "strange" is in stake. I have seen that myself so many times. Too much of anything is not very "healthy"- in common meaning of that word. Lilian's reading was, among other things, very intuitive, and she managed to take all factors in consideration, and I feel that was the 'clue' for her reading to be the closest to a real situation.. I strongly believe that in the near future many professionals dealing with people will have to accept astrology (as is the case in Psy' circles in UK- here I have to mention the invaluable contribution of /Jungian- psychotherapist/ L. Green !) My 2 cents. Thanks. Regards, Anna - subra gjlist Tuesday, April 03, 2001 5:44 PM [gjlist] Re: Test Case Dear Patrice and others who tried my test case, As I said, I gave the TOB as in the birth certificate, but the midwife definitely gave me a time - the same evening as my son was born - that was 15 minutes earlier. What amazed me was that all had found great brains but its being of no use. Also that the outers were taken into account! As a father and relative beginner in astrology, using western sideral, was overjoyed at getting a genius - a "remarkable" thinker - as son. The first 8 months justified this, till the sudden change came. If I remember right, GJ1 found "mathibramayoga" but GJ 2.2 does not! regards Mani gjlist- Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2001 Report Share Posted April 4, 2001 Anna wrote: > I wish I knew DOB of a famous > chess players, Robert Fisher, who failed miserably on more than half of the > (common battery) IQ tests- and had extremely high scores on two (as I've > read in in some profess. bilten). And nobody denies he was a genius- and > "crazy" as well. Bobby Fisher: March 9. 1943 at Chicago,Il. TOB 19:39 GMT (=UT) Pl. note this, for Illinois apparently had a law requiring tobs to be recorded in standard time, even if dst was in force. Nice comments! mani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2001 Report Share Posted April 5, 2001 Dear Mani, Thank you very much for information. I know that my reply is a bit late, but that's because of my computer's moody "personality"- didn't work for awhile. (purcahsed during Jupiter-Uranus conjuncion in (tropical) Aq. by the way) Best wishes, Anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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