Guest guest Posted May 4, 2001 Report Share Posted May 4, 2001 Hello Liliana, Thank you. I will try to lay my hands on it. Best wishes Anshu - "Liliana Sucur Perisic" <astrolila <gjlist> Monday, 30 April, 2001 03:49 PM Re: [gjlist] Ginger Rogers: Vipareet Raja-yoga > Hallo Anshu, > I can recomand you a good book, in which you can find information (not > only)about Yogi and Ava Yogi: "Hindu Astrology Lessons", editor Richard > Houck. It is an antology containing 38 articles by 38 different authors. > That's where I've got Yogi and Ava Yogi from. > Best wishes, > Liliana > > > >"Anshu Sood" <anshusood > >gjlist > ><gjlist> > >Re: [gjlist] Ginger Rogers: Vipareet Raja-yoga > >Sun, 29 Apr 2001 08:28:37 -0700 > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >Received: from [208.50.144.76] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id > >MHotMailBCB4D40F000B40043199D032904C257C25; Sat Apr 28 20:23:14 2001 > >Received: from [10.1.4.55] by mk. with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2001 > >03:23:00 -0000 > >Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 29 Apr 2001 03:23:00 -0000 > >Received: (qmail 79623 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2001 03:22:59 -0000 > >Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9. with QMQP; 29 Apr > >2001 03:22:59 -0000 > >Received: from unknown (HELO del2.vsnl.net.in) (202.54.15.30) by mta2 with > >SMTP; 29 Apr 2001 03:22:58 -0000 > >Received: from ABC (unknown [202.54.104.170]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) > >with SMTP id 87C8C3F0FD for <gjlist>; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 > >08:50:40 -0500 (GMT) > >From sentto-490438-4722-988514580-astrolila Sat Apr 28 20:24:43 2001 > >X-eGroups-Return: > >sentto-490438-4722-988514580-astrolila=hotmail.com (AT) returns (DOT) > >X-Sender: anshusood > >X-Apparently-gjlist > >Message-ID: <002c01c0d0c4$464ea320$aa6836ca@ABC> > >References: <F295GAIXWb9DYccSN0000002022 > >X-Priority: 3 > >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 > >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 > >Mailing-List: list gjlist; contact > >gjlist-owner > >Delivered-mailing list gjlist > >Precedence: bulk > >List-Un: <gjlist> > > > >Namaste Liliana and all, > > > >I am curious to know more about yogi and avayogi alongwith the references > >to > >the source if possible. > > > >Regards > > > >Anshu > > > >- > >"Liliana Sucur Perisic" <astrolila > ><gjlist> > >Saturday, 28 April, 2001 07:02 PM > >Re: [gjlist] Ginger Rogers: Vipareet Raja-yoga > > > > > > > Namaste Robert and all listmembers, > > > I just wonder, could it be that Saturn's weakness brought prosperity to > > > Ginger Rogers because Saturn was her Ava Yogi? Yogi increases and Ava > >Yogi > > > decreases native's wealth and prosperity, so it is good when Yogi is > >strong > > > and Ava Yogi weak. Her Yogi, the 4th lord Sun, was strong since conjunct > >5th > > > lord Mercury, and their dispositor, the Moon, was strong since in 10 and > > > aspected by Lagnesh Venus. > > > Looking forward to comments, > > > sending you love, > > > Liliana > > > > > > > > > >"Robert A. Koch" <rkoch > > > >gjlist > > > >gjlist > > > >[gjlist] Ginger Rogers: Vipareet Raja-yoga > > > >Thu, 26 Apr 2001 10:17:44 -0700 > > > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > >Received: from [64.211.240.235] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id > > > >MHotMailBCB1A632006F4004321540D3F0EB208842; Thu Apr 26 10:32:06 2001 > > > >Received: from [10.1.4.55] by ci. with NNFMP; 26 Apr 2001 > > > >17:27:13 -0000 > > > >Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 26 Apr 2001 17:27:12 -0000 > > > >Received: (qmail 33921 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2001 17:27:12 > >-0000 > > > >Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9. with QMQP; 26 > >Apr > > > >2001 17:27:12 -0000 > > > >Received: from unknown (HELO mail.bendnet.com) (206.163.50.5) by mta3 > >with > > > >SMTP; 26 Apr 2001 17:27:12 -0000 > > > >Received: from d1gaz.robertkoch.com (bend36-87.bendnet.com > >[206.163.36.87]) > > > >by mail.bendnet.com (8.11.2/8.11.2/BendNet) with ESMTP id f3QHR9746159 > >for > > > ><gjlist>; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 10:27:09 -0700 (PDT) > > > >From sentto-490438-4629-988306033-astrolila Thu Apr 26 10:33:20 2001 > > > >X-eGroups-Return: > > > >sentto-490438-4629-988306033-astrolila=hotmail.com (AT) returns (DOT) > > > >X-Sender: rk > > > >X-Apparently-gjlist > > > >Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010426100206.00ad8930 > > > >X-Sender: rkoch > > > >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 > > > >In- > ><PIELKIHIPIEDMGIDLLGHMEJACCAA.pursottam_dabasia > > > > > > >References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010425101636.00ace6b0 > > > >X-eGroups-"Robert A. Koch" <rk > > > >Mailing-List: list gjlist; contact > > > >gjlist-owner > > > >Delivered-mailing list gjlist > > > >Precedence: bulk > > > >List-Un: <gjlist> > > > > > > > >Om Sri Gurubhyo namah, > > > > > > > >Dear Pursottam, > > > > > > > >Good work on your investigations of the Vipareet principle of Saturn in > >the > > > >12th for Taurus rising. I was taught this by Sanjay Rath, who in turn > >did > > > >some research with charts of famous people. Further to this principle, > >it > > > >is said that debilitated planets, especially malefics, in dusthanas, > >get > > > >neechabhanga, and produce instead favorable results during their > > > >dasas. this is accentuated in the case of Taurus lagna, and Saturn in > > > >Aries in the 12th, for the above reasons. > > > > > > > >Anyway, regarding Ginger Rogers, this is a poignant example. I have > >the > > > >following data on her from the Rodden Data bank. The rating is "AA", > >which > > > >means it is from a birth certificate: > > > > > > > >7/16/1911 > > > >02:18 AM > > > >Independence, MO > > > > > > > >As you have pointed out, her career started during the major period of > > > >Saturn, from 9/6/1921 to 9/6 1940. She was a dance and film star, who > > > >worked with one of the most famous on-screen dancers of the 20th > >century, > > > >viz. Fred Astaire. Of special interest, is that her most famous film, > >for > > > >which she received much acclaim, was a 1935 musical called "Top Hat", > >in > > > >which she starred with Fred Astaire. This occurred in the major period > >of > > > >Saturn, and bhukti period of Rahu, both in the 12th house of her > > > >chart. This is indeed confirmation that Vipareet Raja-yoga occurs, > >when > > > >for Taurus lagna, the karaka of 6, 8, and 12 is in 12, in debilitation, > >not > > > >just lords of 6, 8, and 12. > > > > > > > >Anyway, there are many interesting facts about her life, the details of > > > >which can be studied vis a vis 10th lord in the 12th and afflicted by > > > >malefics, during a period of great stardom and fame. I don't have the > >time > > > >to go through it all today, but anyway, I will post for everyone's > > > >information, a biography on her that you can use to cross-reference to > >dasa > > > >periods, etc.: > > > > > > > >GINGER ROGERS > > > > > > > >American dancer and actress, a glamor queen swathed in chic with a firm > > > >gaze, strong stride and down-home vowels. Rogers glided across the > >silver > > > >screen with her famous partner dancer, Fred Astaire in ten films. > >Their > > > >most notable film was "Top Hat," a 1935 musical. The dancer prided > >herself > > > >on never taking a formal dance lesson. Rogers struggled to establish > >her > > > >own solo acting abilities and triumphed with her Oscar award for Best > > > >Actress in the 1940 drama, "Kitty Foyle." She wrote her autobiography, > > > >"Ginger: My Story" in 1991 and accepted a Kennedy Center Honor in > >December > > > >1992. Her career in the entertainment industry began in vaudeville, > > > >reaching to television spanning over 65 years. > > > > > > > >Virginia Katherine McMath was born in Independence, Missouri where her > > > >mother, Lela Rogers was a news reporter. The family moved to Fort > >Worth, > > > >Texas. She made her debut on stage at Central High School in Fort > >Worth > >in > > > >1924 in a play written by her mother. As a teenager, she won a > >Charleston > > > >dance contest. She went on to the vaudeville circuit with the name of > > > >Ginger Rogers, the surname from her stepfather. Her mother gave up her > > > >career as a reporter and scriptwriter to manage her daughter's budding > >show > > > >business career. > > > > > > > >In 1928, she worked in the act, "Ginger and Pepper" with her first > >husband > > > >Jack Culpepper. In 1929, at 19, she appeared on the Broadway stage in > >"Top > > > >Seed." She was working at Paramount's Long Island studios at the same > > > >time. She appeared in a small role in "Young Man of Manhattan." Film > > > >audiences were delighted with her one gag line - "Cigarette me, big > > > >boy." The line became a part of the American idiom of the day. She > >won > > > >acclaim in George Gershwin's "Girl Crazy" on Broadway and quickly sent > >to > > > >Hollywood in late 1930-31. Rogers worked in song and dance > >spectaculars, > > > >dramas and comedies. She first danced with Fred Astaire in "Girl > >Crazy" > >in > > > >1930. At the time, critics felt Rogers self-taught dance style could > >not > > > >equal Astaire's finesse. She was able to silence the opposition and > >proved > > > >she had the necessary dance techniques and expertise to team with > > > >Astaire. On screen, the couple had chemistry, off-screen Astaire and > > > >Rogers were strictly working partners with different interests. > >Publicity > > > >studio men started rumors about the couple having disagreements > >off-screen > > > >in order to keep their names in the gossip papers. Nothing was further > > > >than the truth. Rogers and Astaire always liked and admired each > >other's > > > >talents and respected their work. By 1939, their careers as a dance > >couple > > > >together ran its course and they sought solo projects in the industry. > >She > > > >performed on Broadway shows into her late 70s. > > > > > > > >Rogers married her second husband, actor Lew Ayres, in 1934. She > >married > > > >her third husband, Marine Private Jack Briggs, nine years her junior, > >in > > > >1943. In 1953, she married her fourth husband, Parisian attorney-actor > >and > > > >15 years her junior, Jacques Bergerac. She married her fifth husband > > > >actor-director-producer William Marshall in 1961. They formed their > >own > > > >movie production company in Jamaica in 1961. Rogers never had children > >and > > > >never suffered regrets for that decision. > > > >A staunch Republican, Rogers fought hard against President Franklin > > > >Roosevelt's New Deal policies. She was a devout Christian Scientist > >who > > > >boasted that she never drank or smoked. However she was frequently > >stopped > > > >and fined by Los Angeles police for running red lights and speeding > > > >violations. She enjoyed changing her hair color frequently and > >preferred > > > >modern furniture and eye-catching art. Rogers remained slim by > >avoiding > > > >lunch and eating modestly. By 1943, she was one of the ten highest-paid > > > >Americans. She invested her six-figure salary in blue chip stocks and > >land > > > >including a 1,100-acre ranch on Oregon's Rogue River. Buying the ranch > >in > > > >1939, she fished, golfed, played tennis, cooked, painted and managed > >her > > > >investments from her property. She was an active and proud member of > >the > > > >Daughters of the American Revolution. > > > >Rogers had an extremely close and loving relationship with her mother, > >Lela > > > >Rogers. She grew angry when the media tried to label her mother a > >stage > > > >mom. The two remained very close and she phoned her mother daily to > >tell > > > >her "I love you." She called her mom the most influential person in > >her > > > >life. She felt her mother embodied dignity and good "horse sense." > > > > > > > >Asked if aging bothered her Rogers replied, "Age can't take your > > > >individuality away from you, and that's what counts." She died at her > >home > > > >in Rancho Mirage, CA on 4/25/1995 at 83 from natural causes. > > > > > > > > She won a Charleston contest at 14 and worked in clubs and > >vaudeville > > > >for > > > >two years, Broadway by the time she was 18 and then, Hollywood. She was > > > >cast in a small role with dancer Fred Astair in "Flying Down to Rio" in > > > >1933 that led to a magical screen partnership in ten more wonderful > >films > > > >together. By 1945 her sunny sophistication made her the highest paid > > > >performer in Hollywood. She made over 60 other movies to showcase her > > > >talent with drama or comedy. In 1940 she won an Oscar for, "Kitty > >Foyle." > > > >Rogers had five childless marriages. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Best wishes, > > > >Robert > > > > > > > >===================================== > > > >Robert A. 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