Guest guest Posted May 8, 2001 Report Share Posted May 8, 2001 Namaste, I looked into the chart for the group myself. I am taking it as the time and place the first mail was sent. This makes sense as the time of moving into a house is the time the first object is moved in there, and the time of the journey, is when the first leg of the journey is begun, even if it is just half a mile. So likewise the first posting was the first email exchange forum posting. Apr 5, 2000 8:55am Eugene, OR, USA tz 8, dst 1 123w05 44w03 First thing to notice in this chart is the kalasarpa yoga taking place in the 9th house of the spiritual and going to the 3rd. The Kalasarpa renders Rahu powerful to wreak havoc on the chart, through the significations of the axis it occupies, and the planets it contacts. The first planets Rahu swallow in its reverse movements is the debilitated 9th lord (guru/teacher) Saturn and Jupiter, the guru karaka. This immediately shows the affliction to gurus through Rahu types. Taurus is rising with 4 planets in the 12th house. This gives a weakness to the chart. On one hand it may appear to be a good sanyas yoga as there is a conjunction of 4 planets, and it does take place in the 12th house of moksha. But if you take a look at the navamsa you see that all of these planets involved fall into the duhstanas. Thereby further weakening the rasi chart indications. The 9th house, arudha of the 9th and Jupiter are the significators for guru/teacher. The 9th lord becomes debilitated in the 12th house, and is conjoined and aspected by both marakas, thereby killing/losing the gurus. The 9th pada itself is in the 12th house of loss, and the 9th pada lord is in the 12th, all pointing to loss of guru. The 9th lord in exaltation in navamsa goes into the 8th duhstana, which becomes a bad yoga, as the exaltation takes place in the 8th house, rendering the 8th house strong to do evil towards the rasi 9th lord (guru). The 9th pada lord goes into the 6th house of navamsa with the ascendant lord, which gives the arguments and problems direct impact on the forum through the ascendant. As suspected there is the guru-chandala (Jup-Rahu) yoga combining in the navamsa 6th house, clearly showing demise of guru through the machinations of Rahu, which is shown by manipulating people with adharmic, Tamasic behaviour. Rahu is in a very close orb with Jupiter, within 2 DEGREES. This is a very heavy affliction on Jupiter making a most evil guru-chandala yoga. PLEASE NOTE VIMSHOTTARI DASA: KETU-RAHU-JUPITER. This is the time period in which this sin transpired, in the past two months. This is most clearly shown in the navamsa. Rahu swallows Guru karaka Jupiter in the 6th house of arguments. Rahu is the 12th lord of loss, afflicting Jupiter the navamsa lagna lord, and 10th lord, showing the damage directly afflicting the forum as a whole, and its karma. Jupiter in the rasi chart is also under great affliction. He has bad ownership, and is in the company and aspect of the strong marakas, and debilitated Saturn. Moon as the 3rd lord also afflicts. So there is no saving him in the rasi chart either. The things that indicate improvements in the future are the neechabhanga of Saturn, the 9th lord, through exaltation navamsa, and Mars in kendra to the Moon. Also there is a Vipareeta yoga caused by the combinations of the 12th lord, 8th lord, 3rd lord, and karaka for the 6th, 8th and 12th Saturn taking place in the 12th. So both of these indications shows success through initial difficulties and misfortunes. The pratyantar dasa has just moved into Saturn, or will soon, so there is some hope. regards, Alex J - In gjlist, "Visti Larsen" <vlarsen@h...> wrote: > Namaste Wendy. > You don't have to answer this email, but hopefully you'll read it. > > Surely a Guru-Chandala Yoga in your Rasi, Navamsa, Vimsamsa and Shastiamsa, should make you think twice before writing.. or atleast perform remedial messures, before barking at the fence. > Its clear that your not in the best light nowadays. > > In Rasi your 12th house is aspected by Saturn and Mercury, which aren't good prospects for Moksha. > Your 12th lord is in a Guru Chandala Yoga, so surely this Yoga must be of a big concern..especially since Jupiter is the Atmakaraka. > > In Navamsa Moon is in 12th from Atmakaraka, indicating that your Ishta Devata is Parvathi, the divine mother, but Jupiter again being involved in a Guru-Chandala Yoga here, indicates that you may not worship her, or won't follow teachers advice in doing so. > > Just airing my concern. > Best wishes, Visti. > > p.s. Has anybody got the chart for this email-list yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2001 Report Share Posted May 8, 2001 Alex: What is the status of the original gjlist chart, which was started back in maybe 1997? (I can't remember it now exactly) You have focused on its incarnation only. I doubt that this is the only valid chart for it. Chris At 02:01 PM 5/8/01 -0000, you wrote: >Namaste, > >I looked into the chart for the group myself. I am taking it as the >time and place the first mail was sent. This makes sense as the time >of moving into a house is the time the first object is moved in >there, and the time of the journey, is when the first leg of the >journey is begun, even if it is just half a mile. So likewise the >first posting was the first email exchange forum posting. > >Apr 5, 2000 >8:55am >Eugene, OR, USA >tz 8, dst 1 >123w05 44w03 > >First thing to notice in this chart is the kalasarpa yoga taking >place in the 9th house of the spiritual and going to the 3rd. The >Kalasarpa renders Rahu powerful to wreak havoc on the chart, through >the significations of the axis it occupies, and the planets it >contacts. > >The first planets Rahu swallow in its reverse movements is the >debilitated 9th lord (guru/teacher) Saturn and Jupiter, the guru >karaka. This immediately shows the affliction to gurus through Rahu >types. > >Taurus is rising with 4 planets in the 12th house. This gives a >weakness to the chart. On one hand it may appear to be a good sanyas >yoga as there is a conjunction of 4 planets, and it does take place >in the 12th house of moksha. > >But if you take a look at the navamsa you see that all of these >planets involved fall into the duhstanas. Thereby further weakening >the rasi chart indications. > >The 9th house, arudha of the 9th and Jupiter are the significators >for guru/teacher. The 9th lord becomes debilitated in the 12th house, >and is conjoined and aspected by both marakas, thereby killing/losing >the gurus. The 9th pada itself is in the 12th house of loss, and the >9th pada lord is in the 12th, all pointing to loss of guru. > >The 9th lord in exaltation in navamsa goes into the 8th duhstana, >which becomes a bad yoga, as the exaltation takes place in the 8th >house, rendering the 8th house strong to do evil towards the rasi 9th >lord (guru). > >The 9th pada lord goes into the 6th house of navamsa with the >ascendant lord, which gives the arguments and problems direct impact >on the forum through the ascendant. > >As suspected there is the guru-chandala (Jup-Rahu) yoga combining in >the navamsa 6th house, clearly showing demise of guru through the >machinations of Rahu, which is shown by manipulating people with >adharmic, Tamasic behaviour. Rahu is in a very close orb with >Jupiter, within 2 DEGREES. This is a very heavy affliction on Jupiter >making a most evil guru-chandala yoga. > >PLEASE NOTE VIMSHOTTARI DASA: KETU-RAHU-JUPITER. This is the time >period in which this sin transpired, in the past two months. This is >most clearly shown in the navamsa. Rahu swallows Guru karaka Jupiter >in the 6th house of arguments. Rahu is the 12th lord of loss, >afflicting Jupiter the navamsa lagna lord, and 10th lord, showing the >damage directly afflicting the forum as a whole, and its karma. > >Jupiter in the rasi chart is also under great affliction. He has bad >ownership, and is in the company and aspect of the strong marakas, >and debilitated Saturn. Moon as the 3rd lord also afflicts. So there >is no saving him in the rasi chart either. > >The things that indicate improvements in the future are the >neechabhanga of Saturn, the 9th lord, through exaltation navamsa, and >Mars in kendra to the Moon. Also there is a Vipareeta yoga caused by >the combinations of the 12th lord, 8th lord, 3rd lord, and karaka for >the 6th, 8th and 12th Saturn taking place in the 12th. So both of >these indications shows success through initial difficulties and >misfortunes. The pratyantar dasa has just moved into Saturn, or will >soon, so there is some hope. > >regards, > >Alex J > > > >- In gjlist, "Visti Larsen" <vlarsen@h...> wrote: >> Namaste Wendy. >> You don't have to answer this email, but hopefully you'll read it. >> >> Surely a Guru-Chandala Yoga in your Rasi, Navamsa, Vimsamsa and >Shastiamsa, should make you think twice before writing.. or atleast >perform remedial messures, before barking at the fence. >> Its clear that your not in the best light nowadays. >> >> In Rasi your 12th house is aspected by Saturn and Mercury, which >aren't good prospects for Moksha. >> Your 12th lord is in a Guru Chandala Yoga, so surely this Yoga must >be of a big concern..especially since Jupiter is the Atmakaraka. >> >> In Navamsa Moon is in 12th from Atmakaraka, indicating that your >Ishta Devata is Parvathi, the divine mother, but Jupiter again being >involved in a Guru-Chandala Yoga here, indicates that you may not >worship her, or won't follow teachers advice in doing so. >> >> Just airing my concern. >> Best wishes, Visti. >> >> p.s. Has anybody got the chart for this email-list yet? > > > >gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2001 Report Share Posted May 8, 2001 Namaste, I even got the time on that wrong! The incarnation would have power as well, just as a new swearing in ceremony for a president in office twice. But you are right we should look at the other one. Alex J gjlist, Christopher Kevill <ckevill@i...> wrote: > Alex: > > What is the status of the original gjlist chart, which was started back in > maybe 1997? (I can't remember it now exactly) You have focused on its > incarnation only. I doubt that this is the only valid chart > for it. > > Chris > > > At 02:01 PM 5/8/01 -0000, you wrote: > >Namaste, > > > >I looked into the chart for the group myself. I am taking it as the > >time and place the first mail was sent. This makes sense as the time > >of moving into a house is the time the first object is moved in > >there, and the time of the journey, is when the first leg of the > >journey is begun, even if it is just half a mile. So likewise the > >first posting was the first email exchange forum posting. > > > >Apr 5, 2000 > >8:55am > >Eugene, OR, USA > >tz 8, dst 1 > >123w05 44w03 > > > >First thing to notice in this chart is the kalasarpa yoga taking > >place in the 9th house of the spiritual and going to the 3rd. The > >Kalasarpa renders Rahu powerful to wreak havoc on the chart, through > >the significations of the axis it occupies, and the planets it > >contacts. > > > >The first planets Rahu swallow in its reverse movements is the > >debilitated 9th lord (guru/teacher) Saturn and Jupiter, the guru > >karaka. This immediately shows the affliction to gurus through Rahu > >types. > > > >Taurus is rising with 4 planets in the 12th house. This gives a > >weakness to the chart. On one hand it may appear to be a good sanyas > >yoga as there is a conjunction of 4 planets, and it does take place > >in the 12th house of moksha. > > > >But if you take a look at the navamsa you see that all of these > >planets involved fall into the duhstanas. Thereby further weakening > >the rasi chart indications. > > > >The 9th house, arudha of the 9th and Jupiter are the significators > >for guru/teacher. The 9th lord becomes debilitated in the 12th house, > >and is conjoined and aspected by both marakas, thereby killing/losing > >the gurus. The 9th pada itself is in the 12th house of loss, and the > >9th pada lord is in the 12th, all pointing to loss of guru. > > > >The 9th lord in exaltation in navamsa goes into the 8th duhstana, > >which becomes a bad yoga, as the exaltation takes place in the 8th > >house, rendering the 8th house strong to do evil towards the rasi 9th > >lord (guru). > > > >The 9th pada lord goes into the 6th house of navamsa with the > >ascendant lord, which gives the arguments and problems direct impact > >on the forum through the ascendant. > > > >As suspected there is the guru-chandala (Jup-Rahu) yoga combining in > >the navamsa 6th house, clearly showing demise of guru through the > >machinations of Rahu, which is shown by manipulating people with > >adharmic, Tamasic behaviour. Rahu is in a very close orb with > >Jupiter, within 2 DEGREES. This is a very heavy affliction on Jupiter > >making a most evil guru-chandala yoga. > > > >PLEASE NOTE VIMSHOTTARI DASA: KETU-RAHU-JUPITER. This is the time > >period in which this sin transpired, in the past two months. This is > >most clearly shown in the navamsa. Rahu swallows Guru karaka Jupiter > >in the 6th house of arguments. Rahu is the 12th lord of loss, > >afflicting Jupiter the navamsa lagna lord, and 10th lord, showing the > >damage directly afflicting the forum as a whole, and its karma. > > > >Jupiter in the rasi chart is also under great affliction. He has bad > >ownership, and is in the company and aspect of the strong marakas, > >and debilitated Saturn. Moon as the 3rd lord also afflicts. So there > >is no saving him in the rasi chart either. > > > >The things that indicate improvements in the future are the > >neechabhanga of Saturn, the 9th lord, through exaltation navamsa, and > >Mars in kendra to the Moon. Also there is a Vipareeta yoga caused by > >the combinations of the 12th lord, 8th lord, 3rd lord, and karaka for > >the 6th, 8th and 12th Saturn taking place in the 12th. So both of > >these indications shows success through initial difficulties and > >misfortunes. The pratyantar dasa has just moved into Saturn, or will > >soon, so there is some hope. > > > >regards, > > > >Alex J > > > > > > > >- In gjlist, "Visti Larsen" <vlarsen@h...> wrote: > >> Namaste Wendy. > >> You don't have to answer this email, but hopefully you'll read it. > >> > >> Surely a Guru-Chandala Yoga in your Rasi, Navamsa, Vimsamsa and > >Shastiamsa, should make you think twice before writing.. or atleast > >perform remedial messures, before barking at the fence. > >> Its clear that your not in the best light nowadays. > >> > >> In Rasi your 12th house is aspected by Saturn and Mercury, which > >aren't good prospects for Moksha. > >> Your 12th lord is in a Guru Chandala Yoga, so surely this Yoga must > >be of a big concern..especially since Jupiter is the Atmakaraka. > >> > >> In Navamsa Moon is in 12th from Atmakaraka, indicating that your > >Ishta Devata is Parvathi, the divine mother, but Jupiter again being > >involved in a Guru-Chandala Yoga here, indicates that you may not > >worship her, or won't follow teachers advice in doing so. > >> > >> Just airing my concern. > >> Best wishes, Visti. > >> > >> p.s. Has anybody got the chart for this email-list yet? > > > > > > > >gjlist- > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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