SJVC, India, History, Wendy, Love Gurus

[Guest guest]

Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!!

 

Namaste Dasji!!

 

Very eloquently put, dear brother...i loved your entire rave...it was

sweet, loving and wonderfull..although anyone who has a Guru will

probably disagree totally with your take on the Guru-Shishya thing as

related to Westerners....

 

In my own case i can see what you mean, and still hold my Guru,

Ammachi in the highest regard...i am NOT one of the ones who goes

around with a slack jaw, and dribbling chin, depending breathlessly

upon every little act that Amma does (although i AM in awe of Her

Majesty, and Her Divine Presence!)...i don't need that. it just gets

in the way...i think we need to be clear just what is being reverenced

here in this Guru Yoga or Guru Bhakti...

 

as Sri Ramakrsna many times said the Guru IS NOT A PERSON, although

the Guru may appear to be inhabiting a human body just like all the

others...he is not a person in the way we are...as that ego stuff

isn't there defining who he is...his ego will be merely a

"burnt-rope".

 

the "SatGuru" is nothing other than 'SAT-CHID-ANANDA'...the Divine

Consciousness itself, which appears to the devotee in the guise of the

human Guru....But ANY REAL GURU, will be always redirecting the

devotee's attentions from Herself to the Divine Within both Her and

Us, and telling the devotees that as She is, so are they...and Ammachi

is always doing this...She is constantly, tirelessly reminding us to

have faith in OURSELVES first..that really the Guru is the Indwelling

Supreme Power dormant in our own Hearts...thus Guru is NOT a

PERSON...but rather is that intelligent consciousness which is the

REAL US...A real Guru will ALWAYS be teaching Her devotees to look

within themselves...and NOT to rely upon HER PHYSICAL BODY and being

close to it...

Amma always says: "I am the you that is in you and you are the me that

is in me." does this sound like some powertripping want all the

attention Herself kind of cult leader????not to me.

Amma's humility is LEGENDARY. She bows before the entire audience of

devotees for very long times before beginning Her satsangas, and She

really means it, as She sees that Divine Consciousness within Her is

also within all of us...and She reverences THAT...She won't hesitate

to tweak the ego though!!

 

Amma has often said that those who are "with" Her have always been

with Her...but She doesn't say that those who spend time in the body

with Her at Her ashram or travelling around with Her, are necessarily

any CLOSER to Her than those of us who live far away and only get to

see Her once a year...Amma is ALWAYS emphasizing the INNER COMMUNION

with the Divine and the Guru...the outer Guru has a purpose, which is

to attract the mind in such Divine Love that one will be willing to

surrender the ego unto this teacher, that the surgeon might be able to

get to work...if we won't even go to the doctor, and refuse to lie

down on the operating table, who do we have to blame for getting

worse, but our own selves.

 

This surrender again is NOT to a PERSON, but rather to the Beloved

Deity as one Perceives and Loves Her...and it happens naturally over

the years with Amma's training...either close beside Her in the body,

or even long-distance...we Amma devotees are well aware thru many ways

that Amma is paying attention to Her little children even though they

might be far away physically...She knows what we are doing, and She

offers us teachings Thru Her Grace thru all the every day events which

we are going thru...the everyday tests, and trials, and such, are seen

to be really Guru Prasad...

 

Now this IS difficult for Westerners to appreciate as it seems that

you are just giving yourself up to an airy-fairy idea, or a cult...but

the real Amma devotees will know what i am referring to...Mother's

little finger appears constantly in our everyday lives...and the

appropriate "rewards" and discipline also.....

 

so although i can understand what you are saying re Gurus and Culture

and agree that in many cases what you are saying may be true, still,

one should not throw out the Guru with the wash water, so to speak.

 

if we are sick we still go to the doctor even though we know that

there are many quacks out there....

 

Just so, such Great Souls as Ammachi come into our lives to help us to

grow to be adorable, that we might finally one day merge in that

Sacred Om which is Her everyday experience.

 

In my case, as in the classical way, i called and called out to my

Beloved Divine Mother...crying and longing just like a little child,

breathlessly, restlessly moaning for his Mother....and just as the

sastras have promised...the Guru CAME to me...i didn't have to go to

India....She came to ME...as a direct result of the calling and

calling....so in my mind the ancients are merely absolutely correct,

and perfectly factual when they say..."when the student is ready the

Guru will appear." We get what we are looking for in the Guru

department and if we don't have enough vairagya or discrimination, WE

WILL GET BURNED by the opportunists out there in Guru robes...because

being naive and greedy, we don't know what to look for....don't know

what the atmosphere is like around a great soul...so of course we get

taken...

 

But IF WE ARE CALLING honestly, lovingly from the bottom of our

hearts, do you think that when we are asking for Love the Divine

Mother is going to give us stones?

 

if we learn to trust our own hearts, and intuitions, we will be a lot

further along when coming in contact with such Great Souls as Ammachi.

Amma is NOT here to take us for a ride...except across the ocean of

delusions!! if you don't believe me, then you should taste the cake

yourself!!!

 

For the faithful, no proof is necessary, and for the sceptic no proof

will suffice!

 

Let us follow the enlightening wisdom of our own hearts in this, and

offer our hearfelt prayers to all the Devas and Devis that They will

bless us in our Lives, and bring us to live with them in the Deva

lokas...or better yet to make this earth a Deva Loka, by ourselves

growing to be adorable!

 

In the Divine Mother's Love,

and in Her Service,

this child

of Hers

humbly

bows again and again

saluting

all the beloved

Jyotishis

on this List

Who are all

Her children

and Verily

Embodiments

of the

Sacred Om

Itself!

 

as ever,

Your Own Self,

 

visvanathan

 

Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!!