Upayas

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Dear Angie,

Yes, as far as I know, Upayas are a constituent part of Jyotish. For me, THE

CRUCIAL part. Probably there are astrologers (in the west) who don't believe

in Upayas, and I am not going to try to persuade anybody or to engage in

deskussions. All I can say is, I have applied them, and found that they were

very effective.

Best wishes and love,

Liliana

 

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>Thank you Visti and Liliana, for your advice are Upayas a standard

>thing in Jyotish? I think it's kinda neat too because right after I

>wondered about all this emotional involvment with looking at a chart,

>there was Das Goravani's post about primrose oil, so maybe that's

>something harmless to try, for a little eveness, I'm pretty sure I'm one

>who amplifies my emotions more than what's actually healthy and

>productive too. Thanks again, Angie

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Dear Members,

 

Over the years there have been many debates regarding the efficacy of

Upayas. There is little doubt in my mind that relief from suffering can be

obtained by applying the correct remedial measure at the correct time, and

in the correct manner. Many swear that yagyas have miraculously eased the

burden of what would otherwise have been unbearable. Many believe that

wearing the appropriate Gem or kavacham has also lessened the burden of

their karma. I (personally) do not believe that we can "wipe out" our

karma...not even if we're enlightened! As long as we're in the wheel of

birth and death, the karma (good or bad) will be there.

 

However I do believe we can take steps to lessen it's impact. If one was

destined to receive a severe injury to his foot for instance, then by

applying the correct remedy prior to the manifestation of that karma, he may

just bruise his toe instead. The karmic debt has been paid but the suffering

has been reduced.

 

Karma first begins to manifest on the subtle fields of creation. So we may

be quite innocently enjoying the fruits of our good karma, completely

unaware of the changes taking place within. Yagyas are performed on that

subtle field of vibration where cause first manifests into karma. So the

timing of yagyas is important if they're to be effective.

 

One of the greatest problems of this noble endeavour to ease the suffering

of mankind is that yagyas, gems & kavachams can be expensive, and as the

greatest suffering very often is inflicted by Saturn (who invariably brings

poverty in his wake), those most in need find these remedies out of reach.

It's because of this (I believe) that many good astrologers shy away from

remedial measures. It's cruel to advise someone of a possible remedy if that

remedy is out of their reach.

 

SACRIFICE is a remedy that has been employed from the most primitive times.

>From the sacrifice of humans, to sheep, goats, and still widely practised

today, chickens. Primitive man believed that by sacrificing a life (Saturn)

they would escape the wrath of the gods and their lives would prosper.

 

The death of Christ is held to have been the greatest sacrifice of all. For

the sins of all mankind he gave up his life...so many Christians who

"believe" literally in this sacrifice see that their lives are benefited by

"accepting" his sacrifice.

 

MEDITATION is another form of sacrifice (penance)...one sacrifices ONESELF

in meditation. This form of remedial measure is within the reach of all

(rich or poor), but the catch is that it requires discipline and

determination to withdraw from the activity of the mind in order to "be"

quietly centred in that unmanifest field from where all activity (karma)

rises.

 

Best Regards

Wendy

 

 

LILIANA WROTE:

Yes, as far as I know, Upayas are a constituent part of Jyotish. For me, THE

CRUCIAL part. Probably there are astrologers (in the west) who don't believe

in Upayas, and I am not going to try to persuade anybody or to engage in

deskussions. All I can say is, I have applied them, and found that they were

very effective.

Best wishes and love,

Liliana

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Hi Liliana, I think it's great they work for you, I appreciate your

response Angie