Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 I've noticed the following: I think PL has more than mine, in terms of basic stuff, or this is how I feel. Like he has more stuff, more basic stuff, than I do, especially currently, ie, PL 2000 verse GJ226, it's kind a looks like he's got the topper. But there's something about my windows verse his which make me like mine better. But he's got what appeals to drier, more merurially preferring folks. Mine is more Jupiter/Venus, his more Saturn/Mercury. Mine just feels better to some of us, and to some of us, that's primevally important. Then mine has features his doesn't have. So it's a matter of "what features do you want". Mine tend to be Jupiterian features, more broad and sweeping. His more focused, more singular features focused on singular things. I think my readings are more edited, and thus closer to being useable for others. GJ3 is awesome. It has much more than 226. I am feeling better, but my life is changing. I want to finish it. Hard to do that for a few years now, but hoping that changes now. Sri Jyotish Star, is written by a tripple Gemini, Andrew Foss. A very nice man, knows Physics, British, small guy, lovely light personality. The program comes off like something a physicist would write. It's awesome, but pretty intense to me. Haydn's is straight and simple and inexpensive. Only Sri Jyotish, PL, and GJ, have built in complete atlases. Out of the 3, I think I'm the only one honest enough to have paid ACS many thousands for the right to do this. I'm honest. I also paid royalties to publishers, something I think is skipped often, woops. None of us wrote the books we used for readings etc. So there might be adharmic nuclear radiation trace bits floating on the surface of some? Dunno. Not my biz really. But I watch for such things in life personally. It's called social responsibility. Everyone deserves to be paid rightly for their work, but truly, I dunno the truth about what they've done, just some skuttlebutt has blown by the ears, one time from one programmers mouth himself. Sorry, you have to figure this one out. More clarity not happy. Built in atlas to me is a must. Absolutely. Readings and Yogas too. Then you're down to I think PL and GJ. Does SJS have readings, I mean a good amount, yogas all that? One of them, PL, is owned to a great degree by an Indian Gem merchant of fabulous wealth. He also then tried to buy mine for $250K. Wow. So there are folks trying to "own" jyotish the way bill gates "owns" computers. It's called being in control of ALL or as many as possible of the channels for selling the stuff. PL and Roddens Database are programmed in India. I am against this process personally. With mine, you have access to the programmer. Here I am. Dunno what good that will do you though, might be bad! Try finding Mickael Boender on the phone. Hmmm. Email. Hmmm. Dunno. Seemshard. Might be a blessing! With mine, you get to wonder all the time about the mind of the programmer. You wonder if you're being taken for a ride to crazy land, or heaven, or is there a difference? With mine, there is confusion built into every level. Some things you just can't buy with money. With PL, it all makes perfect sense. So if you make cents, buy PL. If you prefer scents (Venus), buy mine. Thanks for allowing this leper con his jolly. son of anon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 gjlist, goravani@a... wrote: > > I've noticed the following: > > I think PL has more than mine, in terms of basic stuff, or this is how I > feel. > > But he's got what appeals to drier, more merurially preferring folks. > > Mine is more Jupiter/Venus, his more Saturn/Mercury. > > Mine just feels better to some of us, and to some of us, that's primevally > important. > Sri Jyotish Star, is written by a tripple Gemini, Andrew Foss. A very nice > man, knows Physics, British, The program > It's awesome, but pretty intense to me. > Om Amrtesvaryai Namah! Namaste all!! this kindergartner playing about in his sandbox definitely prefers Goravani Jyotish to all the other ones he checked out...although he must admit that he was only trying demos of them all...he found that Goravani Jyotish was the most easy on the eyes, and fun to work with. didn't try PL...as i wasn't interested, due to liking to support "local" guys more than gem dealers who are fabulously wealthy already! Prasannan Herke uses PL for his work...but then he only prints out ONE page, both sides...and so it's difficult to tell what else might be available...that one page is nicely arranged, but personally i much preferred the Goravani "personal" approach...and if that's due to Jupiter/Venus vs Saturn/Mercury, i must resonate with Jupiter/Venus more...even though Atmakaraka and Lagnesha is Sani, and ruler of the 9th in the 12th is Mercury.... Sri Jyotish Star, at least the demo, i found VERY hard on my eyes...way too intense...headache material...and not very artistically designed...very practical perhaps, but after trying it out a little, and feeling kind of migrainous from the intense blue screen...i just found myself never going there!!...and so i eventually deleted the program... Goravani's on the other hand is very beautifully done...and has lots of attention to details in the presentation as much as the program itself...this i find wonderful to work with ...and i only have the GJ 2.2, which Dasji kindly gave me in my abject poverty for free...(i had a demo disc already, which made it easier).. i vote for Dasji's program myself! gotta go! in the Mother's Love, and in Her service, as ever, Your own Self, visvanathan Om Amrtesvaryai Namah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 Hello - As a beginner, I'm not sure where I would be now without GJ. It made an incredible difference in my ability to learn and study along with all the great help of our wonderful Das, and all the online learning on here, his list. From top to bottom Das' program, including all the info, birth data of so many, art, etc., is an amazing program and unbelievable buy in my eyes. All time one of my best purchases. I'm not good for comparing it with any others as I never felt any need for more than all GJ gives, and therefore didn't spend the time looking into them. I think anyone who has seen it, is pretty totally blown away by it and the ease of it, as well as the tutoring given to get you going, that is a part of the actual disk. (Das, that in and of itself is pretty amazing having you right there working with us when the disk arrives.) So, anyone can comfortably begin with confidence at the very early levels of learning Jyotish and continue its use all the way to these advanced Jyotishis on this list. I would recommend it highly to anyone studying Jyotish, or for a program to calculate your own charts, whether clients or personal. Very excited for GJ3. Namaste, Patrice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 Dear Members, This statement by Das: "It's called social responsibility. Everyone deserves to be paid rightly for their work." jumped off the page, as it's a rather sensitive issue for me at the moment. For quite some time now I've found myself inundated with requests for readings from people who are either unable or unwilling to pay. I find myself unable to refuse a cry for help so I endeavour to give advice on current trends whilst avoiding a full reading. However even this can develop into an almost complete reading spaced over many days, sometimes even weeks, of persistent questions. The "social responsibility" ethos is very strongly embedded in my consciousness, but if jyotish is your chosen profession...if it's what you "DO", then surely your "work" is as worthy of payment as is anyone else's. I wonder how others handle this sensitive issue. I often find myself so bogged-down with these sort of requests that there's little time for anything else. Best Regards Wendy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2001 Report Share Posted May 24, 2001 kasi_visvanath wrote: > didn't try PL...as i wasn't interested, due to liking to support > "local" guys more than gem dealers who are fabulously wealthy already! > Prasannan Herke uses PL for his work...but then he only prints out ONE > page, both sides...and so it's difficult to tell what else might be > available...that one page is nicely arranged, Hi! When I first saw Prasannam working I was impressed by PL. But corresponded with PL people and Das, got more details. Got GJ because it seemed to be richer in possibilities. I started with GJ 1 and since the both GJ and Pl have grown. Actually at my request Das gave GJ to Prasannam, who later said he used it only for research, but not for the quick consultations at Amma meetings: GJ was too slow. This objection is true. GJ is not fast. i cannot compare it with other jyothish programmes, but with Solar Fire, which incidentally has included a vedic section in SF 5. SF is very fast. My main problems with GJ at present: - some of the colours don´t suit me and I can´t change them with the colour-picker. Esp. for printouts I´d like to have only black and white and this doesn´t seem to be possible for all charts. - can´t highlight and print only certain sections. The whole item has to be selected. - can´t see two charts side by side. (The SF vedic allows this.) - it is not easy to get "return" maps - the "hits" menu is a bit clumsy. - there are bugs; sometimes they don´t stick out and one finds out by chance. BUT all these have been dealt with by Das and I´m sure GJ3 will be a stunner! There will always be features that one misses or finds not to one´s taste, no matter which programme one gets. Total customizing is just not possible. So one has to have two programmes anyhow, to be safe from bugs. One must cross-check. I find SF the best for this. It is not jyothish, but a very good programme for all western methods. SF5 is great. The vedic side is very limited: variable ayanamsa, NI and SI charts, lunar vimsottari to 2 levels only, navamsa and bhava listings. But enough to see if the GJ chart is correct and excellent for comparing two nativities side by side. At first I used to hope for a single programme covering both western and vedic. But now I see it is better to have two separate programmes. BTW the free Astrolog is also good for a basic check. So I´d say to anyone: Get GJ 2.2 and live with the problems till GJ3 comes out, OR Get a cheap and simple one and wait for GJ3. regards Mani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2001 Report Share Posted May 24, 2001 Dear Raghu I salute you for your very objective comments.You are cute.My blessings for your sadhana.I pray toGod to work through you for your wonderful programme to newer heights.You have made a great difference to my astrological life through your creativity.Looking forward to your new creation.Work is Worship.So get cracking.God Bless. Love and Regards S Purushothaman P.S.Offer still stays for you to have a break in Singapore.You are Welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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