Guest guest Posted June 6, 2001 Report Share Posted June 6, 2001 Hi All: As Nepal is still caught in chaos following the unprecedented killing of most of the royal family, I thought it might be interesting to look at the chart of the alleged killer, the King's son, Prince Dipendra. No definitive explanation has yet been given to how the massacre happened -- a royal inquiry is to give results in another day or two -- but most reports point to Dipendra. The more conspiratorially-minded wonder if the new king Gyanendra may have masterminded the whole affair to secure his own position. As it is, I have only heard of birth dates for various members of the royal family. No birth times have come forward yet. So this will necessarily be an exercise in rectification of sorts. In vedic astrology, when the birth time is unknown, you go to Plan B -- using the Moon as ascendant (Chandra Lagna) and cast the chart that way. Dipendra (June 27 1971) presents us with a problem straight off the top: his Moon changed signs the day he was born. If he was born before 6 am or so, he would have a Cancer Moon, after 6, it changes to Leo Moon. So our first question is: what is his Moon sign? Unlike western astrology, there's no need to ponder the nature of his psychology to divine the answer to this question. You do this by fitting his chart with the contours of his life that are known to us. Well, first off, his life situation is he was unmarried at age 29, his mother and father were wealthy and powerful, and he didn't get along with his mother in particular, as she opposed his choice for a bride. And if he did indeed commit this crime, he was mentally unstable, and obviously capable of violence. With a Cancer ascendant, Capricorn is the 7th house. Mars and Rahu are there is a close 4* conjunction. Ascendant aside, this is a combination that suggests violent behaviour and an aggressive temper. In the 7th it may say something about his choice of partners, although from all accounts his stated choice was an upstanding princess from another royal line -- hardly in keeping with the Mars-Rahu imagery. It may be however that he associated with some nasty women previously. Also, the Mars-Rahu could reflect the *consequences* of his choice of partners - violence and strange behaviour. Levacy has written that Mars in the 7th can "provoke fights or disputes". The Leo ascendant will also have a Saturn-ruled sign Aquarius there so it isn't a deal breaker. Saturn has a near exact opposition from Neptune (0*10!) and this makes us think about the fated and failed quality of his love for the princess: Neptune created its deception/disillusionment and left Mars to issue consequences. And a Moon in Leo moves that violent Mars Rahu to the 6th -- on balance a better place for it given the 6th houses natural association with fights, battles and warrior activity. The Moon's placement itself creates some interesting puzzles. If it's in Cancer and afflicted that confirms the notion that Dipendra was a pudgy sort of fellow, as an afflicted Moon here means water or fluid buildup. It would also make his mind more unstable since it would be conjunct Ketu and opposed by Mars. However, a Leo Moon is not without some appeal since his sort of revenge killing out of frustration might be indicated by the wounded pride of a Leonine personality (oops, did I say the word, personality?) His family was wealthy and prominent. 2nd and 11th houses should be in good shape. If Cancer Moon, then 2nd house is Leo. Untenanted, its lord Sun is with Mercury unaspected in Gemini, the 12th house. Doesn't seem quite right to me. Leo Moon has Gemini as 2nd house, untenanted except by Pluto and Uranus, with its lord Mercury in own sign in the 11th house with Sun. Much better fit there for a wealthy (2/11 combination) and prominent(Sun) family. Look at the transit picture. Rahu was in Gemini conjunct Mercury and the Sun. Rahu was a malefic planet owing to the weakness of its dispositor Saturn exactly opposed by Neptune(0*10) and the Mars conjunction. The star lord for Rahu is Moon and since it's position is unknown, we should bracket it. The Rahu transit to the Sun was fairly tight (about 2*) and that gives us another clue: if his Moon was Leo, then this Sun could represent both his father(Sun as significator of father) and himself(Sun is dispositor for chandra lagna lord), and one should also add, his mind(Moon). Transiting Saturn was just past its return in Taurus, conjuncting Venus(the marriage delayed/obstructed) also and aspecting Jupiter (father for Cancer Moon?) in Scorpio. Saturn's 3rd house aspect to Cancer makes us wonder if the Moon was there since it would be afflicted. Overall, some interesting questions. Natally, there is a case for the Cancer Moon for him because it shows an imbalance to his mind, but it doesn't account for his high family stuatus. However, the transit picture seems neater using the Leo Moon. Obviously, not knowing the actual ascendant makes this a speculative exercise. The chandra moon chart needn't have to register all of the afflictions to him that I've given here. If known, the ascendant rashi chart would do that. The way astrology works, I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that his rashi ascendant was Leo with a Cancer Moon! Thus far, without venturing into the swampland of dasha, directions, progressions or anything else, I'm thinking Leo Moon. This is also a safer bet on probability grounds: for 18 out of the 24 hours of the day, the Moon was in Leo, so it's a 75% bet it was Leo! Perhaps the real bottom line, however, is that either Moon sign shows the potential for violent behaviour at this time. 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Guest guest Posted June 6, 2001 Report Share Posted June 6, 2001 Namaste: Thank you for your insight. Hare Ram Chaitanya S. das gjlist, Christopher Kevill <ckevill@i...> wrote: > Hi All: > > As Nepal is still caught in chaos following the unprecedented killing of > most of the royal family, I thought it might be interesting to look at the > chart of the alleged killer, the King's son, Prince Dipendra. No > definitive explanation has yet been given to how the massacre happened -- a > royal inquiry is to give results in another day or two -- but most reports > point to Dipendra. The more conspiratorially-minded wonder if the new king > Gyanendra may have masterminded the whole affair to secure his own position. > > As it is, I have only heard of birth dates for various members of the royal > family. No birth times have come forward yet. So this will necessarily be > an exercise in rectification of sorts. > > In vedic astrology, when the birth time is unknown, you go to Plan B -- > using the Moon as ascendant (Chandra Lagna) and cast the chart that way. > Dipendra (June 27 1971) presents us with a problem straight off the top: > his Moon changed signs the day he was born. If he was born before 6 am or > so, he would have a Cancer Moon, after 6, it changes to Leo Moon. So our > first question is: what is his Moon sign? Unlike western astrology, > there's no need to ponder the nature of his psychology to divine the answer > to this question. You do this by fitting his chart with the contours of > his life that are known to us. Well, first off, his life situation is he > was unmarried at age 29, his mother and father were wealthy and powerful, > and he didn't get along with his mother in particular, as she opposed his > choice for a bride. And if he did indeed commit this crime, he was > mentally unstable, and obviously capable of violence. > > With a Cancer ascendant, Capricorn is the 7th house. Mars and Rahu are > there is a close 4* conjunction. Ascendant aside, this is a combination > that suggests violent behaviour and an aggressive temper. In the 7th it > may say something about his choice of partners, although from all accounts > his stated choice was an upstanding princess from another royal line -- > hardly in keeping with the Mars-Rahu imagery. It may be however that he > associated with some nasty women previously. Also, the Mars-Rahu could > reflect the *consequences* of his choice of partners - violence and strange > behaviour. Levacy has written that Mars in the 7th can "provoke fights or > disputes". > > The Leo ascendant will also have a Saturn-ruled sign Aquarius there so it > isn't a deal breaker. Saturn has a near exact opposition from Neptune > (0*10!) and this makes us think about the fated and failed quality of his > love for the princess: Neptune created its deception/disillusionment and > left Mars to issue consequences. And a Moon in Leo moves that violent Mars > Rahu to the 6th -- on balance a better place for it given the 6th houses > natural association with fights, battles and warrior activity. > > The Moon's placement itself creates some interesting puzzles. If it's in > Cancer and afflicted that confirms the notion that Dipendra was a pudgy > sort of fellow, as an afflicted Moon here means water or fluid buildup. It > would also make his mind more unstable since it would be conjunct Ketu and > opposed by Mars. However, a Leo Moon is not without some appeal since his > sort of revenge killing out of frustration might be indicated by the > wounded pride of a Leonine personality (oops, did I say the word, > personality?) > > His family was wealthy and prominent. 2nd and 11th houses should be in > good shape. If Cancer Moon, then 2nd house is Leo. Untenanted, its lord > Sun is with Mercury unaspected in Gemini, the 12th house. Doesn't seem > quite right to me. Leo Moon has Gemini as 2nd house, untenanted except by > Pluto and Uranus, with its lord Mercury in own sign in the 11th house with > Sun. Much better fit there for a wealthy (2/11 combination) and > prominent(Sun) family. > > Look at the transit picture. Rahu was in Gemini conjunct Mercury and the > Sun. Rahu was a malefic planet owing to the weakness of its dispositor > Saturn exactly opposed by Neptune(0*10) and the Mars conjunction. The star > lord for Rahu is Moon and since it's position is unknown, we should bracket > it. The Rahu transit to the Sun was fairly tight (about 2*) and that gives > us another clue: if his Moon was Leo, then this Sun could represent both > his father(Sun as significator of father) and himself(Sun is dispositor for > chandra lagna lord), and one should also add, his mind(Moon). > > Transiting Saturn was just past its return in Taurus, conjuncting Venus(the > marriage delayed/obstructed) also and aspecting Jupiter (father for Cancer > Moon?) in Scorpio. Saturn's 3rd house aspect to Cancer makes us wonder if > the Moon was there since it would be afflicted. > > Overall, some interesting questions. Natally, there is a case for the > Cancer Moon for him because it shows an imbalance to his mind, but it > doesn't account for his high family stuatus. However, the transit picture > seems neater using the Leo Moon. Obviously, not knowing the actual > ascendant makes this a speculative exercise. The chandra moon chart > needn't have to register all of the afflictions to him that I've given > here. If known, the ascendant rashi chart would do that. The way astrology > works, I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that his rashi ascendant > was Leo with a Cancer Moon! > > Thus far, without venturing into the swampland of dasha, directions, > progressions or anything else, I'm thinking Leo Moon. This is also a safer > bet on probability grounds: for 18 out of the 24 hours of the day, the Moon > was in Leo, so it's a 75% bet it was Leo! > > Perhaps the real bottom line, however, is that either Moon sign shows the > potential for violent behaviour at this time. > > Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2001 Report Share Posted June 6, 2001 Dear Chris, I'm impressed with your report. I agree about probable Leo moon; I think Leo moon would be less inclined to accept family's displeasure than a Cancer moon would. Can't say much more (I'm a novice at Jyotish) except I'm wondering where Scorpio plays its cards. It would seem this would play a part in the deaths as well as that it was a stealth attack, and that he was a reknowned marksman who actually taught shooting skills to others. Thank you for a fascinating and well-written piece of deductive work! Best wishes, Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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