Guest guest Posted September 18, 2001 Report Share Posted September 18, 2001 Namaste, Jyotishis This is a continuation of previous post: Krsna's comments to the grieving Arjuna (straight out of BG translated by Prabhupad): " For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slane when the body is slain. O Arjuna, how can a person who knows that the soul is indestructible, eternal, unborn and immutable kill anyone or cause anyone to kill? As a person puts on new garments, giving up old ones, the soul similarly accepts new material bodies, giving up the old and useless ones. The soul can never be cut to pieces by any weapon, nor burned by fire, nor moistened by water, nor withered by the wind. The individual soul is unbreakable and insoluble, and can be neither burned, nor dried. He is everlasting, present, everywhere, unchangeable, immovable and eternally the same. It is said that the soul is invisible, inconceivable, and immutable. Knowing this you should not grieve for the body. If, however, you think that the soul (or the symbol of life) is always born and dies forever, you still have no reason to lament, O mighty-armed Arjuna. One who has taken his birth is sure to die, and after death one is sure to take birth again. Therefore, in the unavoidable discharge of your duty, you should not lament. All created beings are unmanifest in the beginning, manifest in their interim state, and unmanifested again when annihilated. So what need is there for lamentation? Some look on the soul as amazing, some describe him as amazing, and some hear him as amazing, while others, even after hearing about him, cannot understand him at all. He who dwells in the body can never be slain. Therefore you need not grieve for the living being. Considering your specific duty as a (warrior) you should know that there is no better engagement for you than fighting on religious principles; so there is no need for hesitation. O Arjuna, happy are the (warriors) to whom such fighting opportunities come unsought, opening for them the doors of the heavenly planets. If, however, you do not perform your religious duty of fighting, then you will certainly incur sins for neglecting your duties and thus lose your reputation as a fighter. People will always speak of your infamy, and for a respectable person, dishonor is worse than death. The great generals who have highly esteemed your name and fame will think that you have left the battlefield out of fear only, and thus they will consider you insignificant. Your enemies will describe you in many unkind words and scorn your ability. What would be more painful for you? Arjuna, either you will be killed on the battlefield and attain heavenly planets, or you will conquer and enjoy the earthly kingdom. Therefore, get up with determination & fight. Do thou fight for the sake of fighting, without considering happiness or distress, loss or gain, victory or defeat- and by so doing you shall never incur sin. (Maybe I am just typing this for my own solace......I don't know about all of you, but even as a pacifist hippie from the 60s, this sure helps me transcend, get out of a speculative-judgemental mode!) Love & blessings, Hare Krsna! Tara p.s copies of "Jyotishi's in Crisis" available to anyone who wants an attachment doc sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2001 Report Share Posted September 19, 2001 hare krishna tara this is blissful to read admidst all the mundane turmoil we have to go through in our daily lives...are you also an ISKCON devotee? blessings to you hare krishna stavavali devi dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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