Guest guest Posted September 18, 2001 Report Share Posted September 18, 2001 Dear Members, The list has become extremely busy since this crisis began and although the conflict between different ideologies, astrological techniques, religious doctrine, etc is understandable, I'm surprised that there hasn't been more astrological discussion...particularly in relation to Bush's chart, who after all is paramount in the eventual outcome of this crisis. We have (supposedly) a wealth of experienced jyotisha here but no one seems prepared to dissect his chart and come up with any (concrete) predictions. Both myself and Robert offered our opinions regarding the planetary influence that surrounded the tragedy, but that hasn't been taken up by other astrologers as an ongoing discussion? The charts for the towers etc, whilst interesting to study are not going to give any insight to future events...let's replace our sectarian, religious "hats" with our astrological hats and get down to business. I saw the transit of dasa lord Saturn over bhukti lord Rahu in 11th (8th from 4th and 4th from the own home) combined with the transit of Vidasa lord Jupiter in 12th house as being central in this tragic event. I also (in a post I forwarded from another list) stated that the transit of Bush's Lagnesh Saturn into 12th house next July as a time of great personal suffering for him, war with foreigners etc... But there's another possible scenario to this with 8th lord Saturn (a thoroughly bad planet for him as Robert also pointed out) transiting his natal Sun in 12th house. Is it not feasible to surmise that this may spell the end of Bush himself...ending also this dreadful karma inflicted (unwittingly) on the Country he rules. A new president would bring new events and we may see an entirely different outcome to all this.... Hoping for some (genuine) astrological input on this. Rgds, Wendy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2001 Report Share Posted September 18, 2001 Dear Wendy Actually at the time of the election I predicted a Bush victory with an assasination later. The 1st Lord is closely conjunct the 6th Lord of enemies and aspected by Rahu representing secret plots and intrigues .8th Lord is in the 1st and he is currently running Rahu Saturn which are capable of triggering the event.It is something of a throwaway prediction but he seems to have the combinations supporting an assassination .I doubt I was the first to notice this .I wonder if the FBI get to read these postings with their search engines identifying key words in e-mails to try and break the terrorist networks . Light and peace Nicholas > > The list has become extremely busy since this crisis began and although the conflict between different ideologies, astrological techniques, religious doctrine, etc is understandable, I'm surprised that there hasn't been more astrological discussion...particularly in relation to Bush's chart, who after all is paramount in the eventual outcome of this crisis. > > We have (supposedly) a wealth of experienced jyotisha here but no one seems prepared to dissect his chart and come up with any (concrete) predictions. Both myself and Robert offered our opinions regarding the planetary influence that surrounded the tragedy, but that hasn't been taken up by other astrologers as an ongoing discussion? > > The charts for the towers etc, whilst interesting to study are not going to give any insight to future events...let's replace our sectarian, religious "hats" with our astrological hats and get down to business. > > I saw the transit of dasa lord Saturn over bhukti lord Rahu in 11th (8th from 4th and 4th from the own home) combined with the transit of Vidasa lord Jupiter in 12th house as being central in this tragic event. I also (in a post I forwarded from another list) stated that the transit of Bush's Lagnesh Saturn into 12th house next July as a time of great personal suffering for him, war with foreigners etc... > > But there's another possible scenario to this with 8th lord Saturn (a thoroughly bad planet for him as Robert also pointed out) transiting his natal Sun in 12th house. Is it not feasible to surmise that this may spell the end of Bush himself...ending also this dreadful karma inflicted (unwittingly) on the Country he rules. A new president would bring new events and we may see an entirely different outcome to all this.... > > Hoping for some (genuine) astrological input on this. > > Rgds, Wendy > > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2001 Report Share Posted September 19, 2001 dear nicholas, regarding fbi ect reading e mails with key words, i have a friend who knows about that kind of thing without me being specific about him and i have been told yes they do have search engines which root out specific key words ...which are sifted through for info in the fight against terrorism hare krishna stavavali devi dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2001 Report Share Posted September 19, 2001 Yes Nicholas: I agree with you and if I might add some further insight to this. I have been taught that 3rd house shows "cause" of death...8th house, death itself (death-like sufferings, etc) and 12th house "loss" (of life, etc). So looking at 3rd house we see 6th lord of enemies conjunct Lagnesh Moon...aspected by 8th lord Saturn, whilst 3rd lord Mercury is influenced (once again) by this terribly malefic Saturn. The thing to do now (using all techniques available to us) is to pinpoint the timing...this would be an excellent opportunity to see the effectiveness of advanced techniques, as well as the results of transits in relation to Lagnesh, natal Moon, and dasa lords..... Rgds, Wendy >>>Dear Wendy Actually at the time of the election I predicted a Bush victory with an assasination later. The 1st Lord is closely conjunct the 6th Lord of enemies and aspected by Rahu representing secret plots and intrigues .8th Lord is in the 1st and he is currently running Rahu Saturn which are capable of triggering the event.It is something of a throwaway prediction but he seems to have the combinations supporting an assassination .I doubt I was the first to notice this .I wonder if the FBI get to read these postings with their search engines identifying key words in e-mails to try and break the terrorist networks . Light and peace Nicholas<<< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2001 Report Share Posted September 19, 2001 PS: Jupiter represents enemy (6th lord)...he also represents children...one of his own children (citizen) ?!! Wendy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2001 Report Share Posted September 21, 2001 Dear Nicholas I have been told that the FBI - intelligence etc... does do that. It has made me very careful of how I write my emails. Bush/assassination in the same email may trigger something. Of course I dont know the specifics, but I don't doubt that it is within their capability. MArcia At 03:59 PM 9/19/01 +1000, you wrote: >Dear Wendy >Actually at the time of the election I predicted a Bush victory with an >assasination later. The 1st Lord is closely conjunct the 6th Lord of enemies >and aspected by Rahu representing secret plots and intrigues .8th Lord is in >the 1st and he is currently running Rahu Saturn which are capable of >triggering the event.It is something of a throwaway prediction but he seems >to have the combinations supporting an assassination .I doubt I was the >first to notice this .I wonder if the FBI get to read these postings with >their search engines identifying key words in e-mails to try and break the >terrorist networks . >Light and peace >Nicholas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2001 Report Share Posted September 21, 2001 Hello Marcia & All, Yes! I must say I also had my own concerns after the talk of the (possible) effects of Lagnesh Saturn into Gemini next year. My main concern was not so much related to FBI etc...after all they have their job to do and part of it must be "internet surveillance"...I think reading any of the list's mail would quickly reveal our (innocent) agenda. No! my main concern was just how distressing all this talk must be to Americans. My husband actually has Cancer rising with Saturn in Ascendant...his Saturn dasa was running at the time of birth, and shortly before his 3rd b'day he was in a motor vehicle accident in which his father and elder brother were killed...he was declared "dead on arrival" at the hospital but miraculously survived...obviously! There is no doubt that Saturn dasa is difficult for Cancereans, and for Bush the transit next year over natal Sun will be his most difficult yet...but it would be a brave astrologer who would categorically predict assassination, etc...what can be predicted with absolute certainty is that it will be a very difficult period. Rgds, Wendy >>>Dear Nicholas I have been told that the FBI - intelligence etc... does do that. It has made me very careful of how I write my emails. Bush/assassination in the same email may trigger something. Of course I dont know the specifics, but I don't doubt that it is within their capability. MArcia<<< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2001 Report Share Posted September 21, 2001 Errata: Lagnesh Saturn (of course) should read Malefic Saturn.........sorry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2001 Report Share Posted September 21, 2001 > Dear Nicholas > I have been told that the FBI - intelligence etc... does do that. > It has made me very careful of how I write my emails. > Bush/assassination in the same email may trigger something. > Of course I dont know the specifics, but I don't doubt that > it is within their capability. > MArcia afaik, The echelon system usually store each and every eletronic/voice/telephone communications on the earth thru satellites. Later, they do mining using their SATAN system. There is no need to worry about this.. They look at the context. They scared about Steganographic stuff aka sending secrets thru a large JPEG/MPEG files.. Best Regards, Venkat > > > At 03:59 PM 9/19/01 +1000, you wrote: > >Dear Wendy > >Actually at the time of the election I predicted a Bush victory with an > >assasination later. The 1st Lord is closely conjunct the 6th Lord of enemies > >and aspected by Rahu representing secret plots and intrigues .8th Lord is in > >the 1st and he is currently running Rahu Saturn which are capable of > >triggering the event.It is something of a throwaway prediction but he seems > >to have the combinations supporting an assassination .I doubt I was the > >first to notice this .I wonder if the FBI get to read these postings with > >their search engines identifying key words in e-mails to try and break the > >terrorist networks . > >Light and peace > >Nicholas > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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