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Om Gurave Namah--------------------------Dear Manoj,

 

I have been off this list for sometime now. Just read a mail that quoted you

saying that what is being taught at SJVC is not traditional Jyotish. A long

time back K N Rao and I were together in another list called Majordomo. At tha

time the goravani list did not even exist... way back in 1996 I think. A

western astrologer asked a very simple question "Why do Mars, jupiter and

saturn & Rahu alone have special aspects. Why not the others?" K N Rao could

not answer this. I gave innumerable hints and everyone in the list was still

unable to get to this. Then I had to give the answer. Since I was a new person

and this was his teaching forum, i left. Besides, I was an admirer of Dr Raman

and till date preserve that magazine on which I had requested his blessings. It

is dated 14.6.1996.

 

If you still do not know the answer to this, then it is high time to consider

bowing to Lord Jagannath Mahaprabhu and read the book Narayana dasa for

yourself. If after reading this you find that there is something wrong, then I

am prepared to answer your queries. My request is not to go by hear-say and to

read the book yourself.

 

Recently Ronnie Dreyer was plesantly surprised to learn that I used a 365 day

year. She was under the impression that I used 360 days as was talked about by

narasimha. People should not assume that what some of my students maybe

experimenting with is my teaching. That is not fair. I give freedom so that

they can try and see the truth themselves instead of throttling them down to

swallow my tale. Lagnamsaka alone is mentioned along with Padanadhamsa Dasa.

you will find ample examples of this also in my book.

 

You are well aware of the differences we have about seven and eight Karaka and

as usual, you are politically more active whereas I spend my time in teaching

and writing..so, the results are obvious. Your group is at all the active

forums where decisions on Jyotish are being made, yet this little fellow from a

little town in a little state of Orissa has his say..just as Jyotish was

accepted as an ART's subject and NOT as a science subject. Do you know why? I

surrender everything to Jagannatha mahaprabhu and let Him decide.

 

Whereever I have given anything from the teachings which is not there in any

published text, I have humbly told that this is what I was taught and have not

ARROGATED this as Original research!!!

Best WishesSanjay Rath

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Hello Sanjay,

 

I would appreciate it if you listed your current opinions about the

following since you mentioned one:

 

 

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Dasha days per year you use: 365 (already mentioned)

 

Ayanamsa:

 

Chart diagram style:

 

Lunar Parallax:

 

Nodal aspects:

 

Hora Varga system:

 

Mean/True Nodes:

 

Outer Planets:

 

Glyph symbology:

 

Bhava Equal or Sripati:

 

Jaimini Karakas: 8 (already stated)

 

Lords by Sign or Bhava:

 

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Notes:

 

Hora Varga: Some people think the simple Sun/Moon approach is wrong,

they have another approach, which I cannot describe to you.

 

Glyph symbology: Not real important, do you use letters, numbers, what?

for signs and planets.

 

Lords: By signs means the lord of the 9th sign is in the 9th house,

etc., this is very typical, the Bhava approach is the lord of the sign

where the Madhya lay is in which Bhava by equal or Sripati...this is a

"pure bhava" approach.

 

 

 

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Dear Sanjay

I am glad you are back on the list because you are certainly knowledgeable .On

the jyotish list(formerly majordomo) K.N.Rao gives frequent predictions around

world events so I am hoping that you also will make predictions to demonstrate

that your superior knowledge actually results in greater predictive accuracy .

Yours in the jyotish vidya

Nicholas

 

,

 

I have been off this list for sometime now. Just read a mail that quoted you

saying that what is being taught at SJVC is not traditional Jyotish. A long

time back K N Rao and I were together in another list called Majordomo. At tha

time the goravani list did not even exist... way back in 1996 I think. A

western astrologer asked a very simple question "Why do Mars, jupiter and

saturn & Rahu alone have special aspects. Why not the others?" K N Rao could

not answer this. I gave innumerable hints and everyone in the list was still

unable to get to this. Then I had to give the answer. Since I was a new person

and this was his teaching forum, i left. Besides, I was an admirer of Dr Raman

and till date preserve that magazine on which I had requested his blessings. It

is dated 14.6.1996.

 

If you still do not know the answer to this, then it is high time to consider

bowing to Lord Jagannath Mahaprabhu and read the book Narayana dasa for

yourself. If after reading this you find that there is something wrong, then I

am prepared to answer your queries. My request is not to go by hear-say and to

read the book yourself.

 

Recently Ronnie Dreyer was plesantly surprised to learn that I used a 365 day

year. She was under the impression that I used 360 days as was talked about by

narasimha. People should not assume that what some of my students maybe

experimenting with is my teaching. That is not fair. I give freedom so that

they can try and see the truth themselves instead of throttling them down to

swallow my tale. Lagnamsaka alone is mentioned along with Padanadhamsa Dasa.

you will find ample examples of this also in my book.

 

You are well aware of the differences we have about seven and eight Karaka and

as usual, you are politically more active whereas I spend my time in teaching

and writing..so, the results are obvious. Your group is at all the active

forums where decisions on Jyotish are being made, yet this little fellow from a

little town in a little state of Orissa has his say..just as Jyotish was

accepted as an ART's subject and NOT as a science subject. Do you know why? I

surrender everything to Jagannatha mahaprabhu and let Him decide.

 

Whereever I have given anything from the teachings which is not there in any

published text, I have humbly told that this is what I was taught and have not

ARROGATED this as Original research!!!

Best WishesSanjay RathOm Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo

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Dear Sanjay,

 

As always you are welcome back. Because atleast your presence on the list

gives rise to serious discussions about astrology, otherwise majority of

time is spent on discussing the good and bad aspects of various techniques

advocated by different people.

 

>I have been off this list for sometime now. Just read a mail that quoted

>you saying that what is being taught at SJVC is not traditional Jyotish. A

>long time back K N Rao and I were together in another list called

>Majordomo. At tha time the goravani list did not even exist... way back in

>1996 I think. A western astrologer asked a very simple question "Why do

>Mars, jupiter and saturn & Rahu alone have special aspects. Why not the

>others?" K N Rao could not answer this. I gave innumerable hints and

>everyone in the list was still unable to get to this. Then I had to give

>the answer. Since I was a new person and this was his teaching forum, i

>left. Besides, I was an admirer of Dr Raman and till date preserve that

>magazine on which I had requested his blessings. It is dated 14.6.1996.

>

>If you still do not know the answer to this, then it is high time to

>consider bowing to Lord Jagannath Mahaprabhu and read the book Narayana

>dasa for yourself. If after reading this you find that there is something

>wrong, then I am prepared to answer your queries. My request is not to go

>by hear-say and to read the book yourself.

>

 

I would rather not answer this. Because, I detest the wrong principles

advocated by astrologers but I dont detest the astrologers advocating them.

So in a way, it is like hating the pen but not the hand holding the pen. You

can ask any of my students in Delhi and they will give you this answer. (and

you know many of them).

 

>Recently Ronnie Dreyer was plesantly surprised to learn that I used a 365

>day year. She was under the impression that I used 360 days as was talked

>about by narasimha. People should not assume that what some of my students

>maybe experimenting with is my teaching. That is not fair. I give freedom

>so that they can try and see the truth themselves instead of throttling

>them down to swallow my tale. Lagnamsaka alone is mentioned along with

>Padanadhamsa Dasa. you will find ample examples of this also in my book.

>

>You are well aware of the differences we have about seven and eight Karaka

>and as usual, you are politically more active whereas I spend my time in

>teaching and writing..so, the results are obvious. Your group is at all the

>active forums where decisions on Jyotish are being made, yet this little

>fellow from a little town in a little state of Orissa has his say..just as

>Jyotish was accepted as an ART's subject and NOT as a science subject. Do

>you know why? I surrender everything to Jagannatha mahaprabhu and let Him

>decide.

>

Excellent. But did I at any stage said that Sanjay Rath is not a

knowledgeable person. NO. And you know it very well that I adopt whatever is

good but leave out what does not satisfy my tests. And 8 Karakas have

repeatedly failed my tests. So I dont use them. Y'day too, Purshottam

mentioned about different texts containing Narayana Dasha. I simply said,

"great, so use it". People thought I am being arrogant. But thats the way I

do things. It simply meant that if you find it useful, go ahead and use and

discover for yourself. I cannot ever hold anyone back from using anything

one wants, neither can you. You and me can only demonstrate the principles.

And if you want to drag me into a debate between your and Shri K.N. Rao,

Sorry, I am not getting into it. For me, Shri K.N. Rao is my astrological

Guru and Sanjay Rath is a friend.

 

>Whereever I have given anything from the teachings which is not there in

>any published text, I have humbly told that this is what I was taught and

>have not ARROGATED this as Original research!!!

>

This is your personal feeling. No one should comment on that. "Kaal" is the

best judge of people and their deeds. So lets leave it to HIM.

 

with best wishes and regards,

 

Take care,

 

But do keep writing (even if it is in this tone)

 

Manoj

 

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