Guest guest Posted October 17, 2001 Report Share Posted October 17, 2001 Yes, we are walking in a strange place, we are living, and we love life, and we love love, and everything beautiful and good, and we want to live, and that's all good. But these bodies, they are made of elements that return to elemental states. We must share our flesh with parasites and awful diseases, which act like it's their flesh too, and indeed, they get away with it, and God seems fine with this. The process of rising above bodily identification is excruciating because we are programmed from birth to feel warm and cozy here, with our mommy and families, then our spouses and jobs, whatever. Rude awakenings come more and more the older we get, and there are times when it seems like life is horrible and there is no point to go on. Then there is the blazing truth, waiting for us, the amazing plane of life above the bodily identifications, where there is no more pain, no sorrow, no lamentation. I speak not from book knowledge, but experience. It is not necessary to stop life, or give anything up that is dear, to be spiritual in these ways, but it is necessary to never forget the truth, and to stop doing these things that protect and increase illusion. Illusion is our enemy, and it has to be rooted out. Illusion is a terrorist that want's to ruin our life. I feel the greatest contribution Jyotish can make to our lives is to show that we are in God, under controls, and thus it proves all these ideas about spiritual life, surrender, and so on. I feel that Jyotish is proof for spiritual life, the presence of it, the need for it, and thus, at a certain point in our development, it is like a great protective grandfather friend, who comes and says, "Don't worry, God knows all about what is going on with you, in fact, he's holding your hand through it, has a plan for you, and everything is going to be OK, in other words, you're not alone, you're not at fault, you HAVE done your best, but HE wants you to go through this, see here, He planned it for you long ago, just go through it little soul, learn the lessons. Your plan making and hopes, well, yes, that was illusion, but after all, wouldn't you ultimately prefer to know that you are under a greater power, than truly alone, for think of it, if freedom was truly possible, think of what evil could get away with?" It was once said to me that is trees could walk, they'd destroy the world. The idea is, we are bound and chained according to our level of ignorance and bad will. When we see entities with no freedoms, it is because they are not ready to have freedom, they are essentially too evil to handle it. Humans are free because they are old souls, but they are not totally free. There are finer lessons they must now face, certainly therefore the stakes at risk in the lessons seem tremendous, like Arjuna having to shoot Bhisma, whom he loved greatly, so very greatly. That is why he collapsed in total depression. This is what the Gita is for, and when it is for. So like Arjuna, we have to rise up and accept God's greatness, His supremacy over all that is, His presence in our lives. The more we surrender and accept, the more freedom we are given. Our entrance into happier lands increases. Just as we have more interesting lives than trees, similarly the Demigods, Gandharvas, Sidhas, Apsaras, and so on, they have more interesting higher lives than we do. There is more, more more to be achieved, and it is GRANTED not GRASPED. We are kittens (carried) not monkees (hanging on). So it's a descending process, so it is mercy we seek, through connecting by submission. >From winter comes spring. Death hurts, but only because the leaves fall and rot, is their good top soil to support the next phase of life. That's this world's way, God's way. To end the mental pain, first comes acceptance, then rising above the lamentation over the inevitable, we enter into the plane of free action. dehino smin yatha dehe, kaumaran yauvanam jara, tatha dehantara praptir, dhiras tatra na muhyati As the emobodied soul continually passes in this body from childhood to youth then old age, it continues on and passes into another body at death, the dhira (sober person) is not bewildered/disturbed/lamenting over these transformations, including death. (Sri Krishna speaking in the Gita) When you feel fear, yell at it: You are rooted in an illusion, that I am this body, you are like a mushroom, you have no roots, you only float on the surface of crap, easily knocked off by the strong kick of my real knowledge! Be dead illusion, I now kill you. HARE KRISHNA -- Das Goravani 2852 Willamette St # 353 Eugene OR USA 97405 or Fax: 541-343-0344 "Goravani Jyotish" Vedic/Hindu Astrology Software Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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