Happiness

December 9, 2001

An important postscript to my previous post is that (in the charts I mentioned)

Jupiter is aspecting the ascendant...

For GH from 9th; for myself from 7th and for my husband from 5th house of mind.

It would be a mistake to give the same interpretation for all Libra, Cancer and

Capricorn natives. Each chart is unique in how the planets are expressed, and

of course conjunction/aspects of other planets bring added

influence/modification to the interpretation.

This is an example of why it's as much a mistake to blindly accept the

interpretation of scripture as it is to blindly accept mine...every horoscope

is unique!

Best Wishes,Wendy

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Wendy Vasicek: Vedic

Astrologerhttp://www.members.tripod.com/ganesh_astro/JyotishVidyawenvas (AT) dingoblue (DOT) net.au~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

May 21, 2003

Dear All

I am always struck when someone places a message asking if they will be

happy. My first response is that being happy is up to the individual, being

miserable is also a choice.

Still, the placement of the Moon by nakshatra or simply by aspect or being

hemmed in between difficult planets often indicates a person who is not

"happy."

As astrologers or jyotishis, do you look at the chart and answer, "you will

never be happy." Do you look and ask "have you ever been happy?" in the

case of the latter, perhaps a SAturn transit is influencing at the time.

Or, do you help the client see how his or her perceptions (Moon) influence

happiness or misery?

I guess what I am asking is a discussion on is this. Are perceptions

limited by the chart or can a person learn to work well within the confines

of difficult transits and aspects? I have seen folks who would never

consider themselve happy with very easy lives and folks who would never

presume that happiness is the responsibility of anyone but themselves.

Perhaps this is a cultural difference....or is it the difference of age and

wisdom?

Hoping for discussion

cynthia

May 21, 2003

Hi Cynthia,

I thought I would share my feelings with you :-)

You are right that it depends a lot on he native itself.

Astrologically, I would see the 4th house and Lord, Moon, 4th from Moon. I would

see the 9th lord and Sani also.

This is the general approach, this would decide how person "take" the sorrows...

(The thing you mentioned that it depends on the native), these bhavas and

planets being good indicates he or she can adjust himself or herself easily and

thus become comparatively happy. I would also see the position of 6th and 8th

lords and their strengths.

Imp to keep in mind that there is nothing called 'ever happiness' but it is a

matter of the flow of time so periods and transits are helpful. If the major

period of life passes with a malefic maha dasha, (Say 20 yrs Ve maha dasha)

then it would effect the native's life greatly, and looking him/her having an

unhappy life.

Regards,Tanvir

PS. To judge happiness, it is good to have an overall look to all houses esp

1st, 7th, 2nd, 10th, 5th, 9th etc - if any of these are seriously troubled then

the happiness would be hampered surely - most of the times unhappiness comes

from these houses you know.

Just my two cents :-)))

What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine.

Tanvir

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cynthianovak

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Wednesday, May 21, 2003 8:51 PM

Re: [GJ] happiness

Dear AllI am always struck when someone places a message asking if they will

behappy. My first response is that being happy is up to the individual,

beingmiserable is also a choice.Still, the placement of the Moon by nakshatra

or simply by aspect or beinghemmed in between difficult planets often indicates

a person who is not"happy."As astrologers or jyotishis, do you look at the chart

and answer, "you willnever be happy." Do you look and ask "have you ever been

happy?" in thecase of the latter, perhaps a SAturn transit is influencing at

the time.Or, do you help the client see how his or her perceptions (Moon)

influencehappiness or misery?I guess what I am asking is a discussion on is

this. Are perceptionslimited by the chart or can a person learn to work well

within the confinesof difficult transits and aspects? I have seen folks who

would neverconsider themselve happy with very easy lives and folks who would

neverpresume that happiness is the responsibility of anyone but

themselves.Perhaps this is a cultural difference....or is it the difference of

age andwisdom?Hoping for discussioncynthia

May 21, 2003

Happiness is a frame of mind. The strength of Moon (mind) helps us to be happy.

The placement of Moon shows the things (related to that house) that make us

happy. No one can be always happy, but if we choose to be happy we can, by

developing a correct frame of mind. As explained in Bhagawadh Geeta - by

becoming a "Sthita Pragna" (A person unattached to the consequences of his

Karma and who acts according to the demands of his situation). Such a person

can and will be happy coz he realises that whatever is happening to him is just

a game of eternity reducing his past debts.

An unhappy persons soul seeks happiness which makes it to take a rebirth. A

happy persons soul satisfied with the things this earth and life has to offer

moves towards emancipation. So, dont worry, be happy.

The favorable aspects from other planets on Moon indicate the relations (ruled

by those planets) who make us happy. The reverse (unfavorable) is also true. To

take charge of our happiness - we could choose not to be attached to our karma.

Moon is good between 8th tithi of both pakshas (Waxing). Moon is favorable in 2,

5, 9, 10, 11 houses. Neutral in 1, 3, 8, 12 houses and unfavorable in 4, 6, 7

houses unless these houses are not owned by Mercury (who logically negates Moon

always. sometimes logic creates a mental abberation) and Saturn (who detaches

the Mind from the heart creating a tension between the right or wrong thing to

do).

This is my humble opinion on this topic.

Pavan

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Tanvir

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Wednesday, May 21, 2003 10:05 AM