Guest guest Posted December 9, 2001 Report Share Posted December 9, 2001 Chris, Thank you for the useful method of looking at the hora chart in comparison to the natal chart for GH. It may also be helpful if you could show how some events can be seen via the progressions(secondary and tertiary) in the R. Houck style. It would be of interest to see how these events show better with the 7* Libra chart as opposed to the 26-29* Virgo chart using the progressions. 26* Virgo has the Leo Navamsha ascendent which I prefer if I was using Virgo. Use any events eg Marriage 21 Jan 1966, Birth of son 1 Aug 1978, accident 28 Feb 1972, Death 29 Nov 2001 Regards Ron Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2001 Report Share Posted December 10, 2001 Hi Ron, I guess the rationale for the 26 Virgo rising chart (10.50 pm) is a time zone issue -- it's almost a full hour earlier than the 11.49-11.53 time -- rather than a poorly recorded birth time. At any rate, I looked at a couple of events using both times and while it seems the 11.52 or so time is better, there are a few morsels with the 10.50 time that can give hope to your Virgo camp. First, a brief word of explanation. I used only the tertiary (P3) and minor progressed (mP) Asc and MC and looked for hard contacts (0*, 90*, 180*) in either natal or progressed charts with slow moving planets that might be noteworthy. This is a technique popularized by the late Richard Houck. In my opinion, it is an indispensible tool for rectification and all manner of astrological work. I have omitted minutes to keep things short and I have used an orb of less than two degrees. I looked at his car accident on Feb 28 1972. With 11.52, P3 Mc 11Le squared natal 8H Saturn and P3 Uranus, both at 12Ta. This should be seen as a clear expression of an accident. MP Mc 20Vi squared mP Rahu 19Ge and mP Asc 17Sc opposed mP Uranus 18Ta. Rahu stands for sudden things and its dispositor Sun is aspected by 8H Saturn, and that Uranus contact does fit well. Finally, P3 Mars 2Ge -- always worth looking at for events like accidents -- was exactly conjunct his natal part of fortune 2Ge. Turning to the 10.50 chart, P3 Mc 26Cn was just past conjunct with P3 Jupiter 25Cn. Not really indicative of accidents I don't think. Jupiter also doesn't rule any dussthana houses. P3 Asc 12Li squares natal Pluto 12Cn. This is a possible hit, but I think you'd have to agree that Pluto isn't the first planet one things of when thinking about accident configurations. MP Asc 7Sc opposed natal Uranus 7Ta. A nice hit. But that's all there is, and no clear Mars hits with the 10.50 time. On balance, I'd say the 11.52 time works best for this event, although I admit this is a fairly cursory analysis. Looking at the progressions at the time of his time on Nov 29 2001, with the 11.52 chart, P3 MC 11Vi is conjunct P3 Neptune 11Vi. This looks like a classic indicator of sickness and death, especially from cancer. To add to Neptune's grim duties here, it's in his 12th house. P3 Asc 11Sc opposed natal Saturn 12Ta (that 8H Saturn again) and squared the Sun 12Aq. This is a particularly important hit because not only was Harrison's Sun afflicted by Saturn's 10H aspect natally, he was running Sun bhuktie at the time of his death. So there really had to be some Sun contact with the progressions. Also mP Mc 9Sg squared natal Neptune 8Vi, yet another dissipating Neptune contact there. Now with the 10.50 chart, there are a couple of hits, but to me they aren't quite as clear. P3 Asc 3Sc squares natal Rahu 1Le. Rahu is often implicated in sickness in general and cancer in particular, so that's something. Also Rahu's dispositor is the Sun, which as we know is very afflicted by that 8H Saturn. Then the mP Asc 2Aq conjuncts natal Ketu 1Aq. Ketu also has some Sun involvement: it is conjunct it natally in the 6th house. So a couple of solid nodal contacts. So that's only two events, but to me, the 11.52 is still better. The contacts make more sense. It's not to say that 10.50 doesn't have something, but really, all sorts of times will feature some contacts when you use two angles, two types of progressions and make note of contacts with a palette of possible planets. The thing then is not to count up contacts on a tote board, but to look for the chart that gives the clearest picture of the events. The 10.50 Virgo chart really came up short on the accident and that's reason enough for me to discount it. I guess if you don't recognize Neptune, then maybe the 10.50 chart does a fair enough job with his death. But then again, if you don't recognize Neptune, why would you even be analyzing such non-vedic things as western progressions! For reasons of brevity, I haven't taken a lot at transit hits to these progressions. One should do that and perhaps they might bolster the 10.50 time somehow. Feel free to do so. regards, Chris y At 11:01 PM 12/9/01 -0800, Ron Day wrote: >Chris, >Thank you for the useful method of looking at the hora >chart in comparison to the natal chart for GH. > >It may also be helpful if you could show how some >events can be seen via the progressions(secondary and >tertiary) in the R. Houck style. It would be of >interest to see how these events show better with the >7* Libra chart as opposed to the 26-29* Virgo chart >using the progressions. 26* Virgo has the Leo >Navamsha ascendent which I prefer if I was using >Virgo. > >Use any events eg Marriage 21 Jan 1966, Birth of >son 1 Aug 1978, accident 28 Feb 1972, Death 29 >Nov 2001 > > >Regards >Ron > > > > >Send your FREE holiday greetings online! >http://greetings. > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >: gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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