Guest guest Posted December 11, 2001 Report Share Posted December 11, 2001 Dear Nicholas, By any chance do you refer to Shuklacharya when you mention Sukracarya? Shulkacharya was a great guru of the Danavas in Vishnu Puran. Regards, Krishna. gjlist, "Nicholas" <costa@A...> wrote: > Dear Patrice > You are correct > There is a story in the Bhagavata Purana where Sukracarya advised his disciple Bali Maharaja not to offer charity to Lord Vamana who was an incarnation of Visnu . Bali had conquered the universe and Vamana was a dwarf who asked for 3 of his "small" steps of land .Sukracarya advised his discilpe that Vamana would take everything and they, the Guru and disciple would be left with nothing ..Bali Maharaja disobeyed his Guru and Vamana being Visnu covered the entire universe with his 3 steps Vamana then arrested Bali. > > When this happened Sukracarya realised the error of his ways and he was reminded that sevice to Visnu is the highest type of consideration . > So a similar thing may happen in Pisces Sukra may give up his ways of sense gratification and turn to moksha .As a brahmana he is aware of higher principles but he gets distracted by the illusory presentations .With respect to GH this was certainly the case . > Best Wishes > Nicholas > > > - > Patrice Curry > gjlist > Tuesday, December 11, 2001 5:38 AM > Re: [GJ] Venus in Pisces > > > Hi Nicholas, > > From my notes I see Venus is not in an enemy's sign in Pisces. Jupiter being a neutral to Venus. (But Venus is an enemy to Jupiter.) Also, Venus is Guru/teacher to the Asuras. In Pisces, natural sign for moksha, this makes sense as Venus' highest attribute as Guru. > > You wrote: > > >>>So Venus'exaltation in an enemy's sign is a quandary Why is the planet of sense gratification exalted in the natural sign for moksha ? > > Best regards, > Patrice > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist-@e... > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2001 Report Share Posted December 12, 2001 Dear Krishna I think we are referring to the same person .I have not seen that spelling before . Regards Nicholas - "krishna_savani" <krishna_savani <gjlist> Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:41 PM Re: [GJ] Venus in Pisces- Nicholas > Dear Nicholas, > > By any chance do you refer to Shuklacharya when you mention > Sukracarya? Shulkacharya was a great guru of the Danavas in Vishnu > Puran. > > Regards, > Krishna. > > > gjlist, "Nicholas" <costa@A...> wrote: > > Dear Patrice > > You are correct > > There is a story in the Bhagavata Purana where Sukracarya advised > his disciple Bali Maharaja not to offer charity to Lord Vamana who > was an incarnation of Visnu . Bali had conquered the universe and > Vamana was a dwarf who asked for 3 of his "small" steps of > land .Sukracarya advised his discilpe that Vamana would take > everything and they, the Guru and disciple would be left with > nothing ..Bali Maharaja disobeyed his Guru and Vamana being Visnu > covered the entire universe with his 3 steps Vamana then arrested > Bali. > > > > When this happened Sukracarya realised the error of his ways and he > was reminded that sevice to Visnu is the highest type of > consideration . > > So a similar thing may happen in Pisces Sukra may give up his ways > of sense gratification and turn to moksha .As a brahmana he is aware > of higher principles but he gets distracted by the illusory > presentations .With respect to GH this was certainly the case . > > Best Wishes > > Nicholas > > > > > > - > > Patrice Curry > > gjlist > > Tuesday, December 11, 2001 5:38 AM > > Re: [GJ] Venus in Pisces > > > > > > Hi Nicholas, > > > > From my notes I see Venus is not in an enemy's sign in Pisces. > Jupiter being a neutral to Venus. (But Venus is an enemy to Jupiter.) > Also, Venus is Guru/teacher to the Asuras. In Pisces, natural sign > for moksha, this makes sense as Venus' highest attribute as Guru. > > > > You wrote: > > > > >>>So Venus'exaltation in an enemy's sign is a quandary Why is > the planet of sense gratification exalted in the natural sign for > moksha ? > > > > Best regards, > > Patrice > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist-@e... > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2001 Report Share Posted December 12, 2001 Dear Nicholas, The danav sage had the name Shukla, and that name is a surname currently common in north India. Regards, Krishna. gjlist, "Nicholas" <costa@A...> wrote: > Dear Krishna > I think we are referring to the same person .I have not seen that spelling > before . > Regards > Nicholas > - > "krishna_savani" <krishna_savani> > <gjlist> > Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:41 PM > Re: [GJ] Venus in Pisces- Nicholas > > > > Dear Nicholas, > > > > By any chance do you refer to Shuklacharya when you mention > > Sukracarya? Shulkacharya was a great guru of the Danavas in Vishnu > > Puran. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna. > > > > > > gjlist, "Nicholas" <costa@A...> wrote: > > > Dear Patrice > > > You are correct > > > There is a story in the Bhagavata Purana where Sukracarya advised > > his disciple Bali Maharaja not to offer charity to Lord Vamana who > > was an incarnation of Visnu . Bali had conquered the universe and > > Vamana was a dwarf who asked for 3 of his "small" steps of > > land .Sukracarya advised his discilpe that Vamana would take > > everything and they, the Guru and disciple would be left with > > nothing ..Bali Maharaja disobeyed his Guru and Vamana being Visnu > > covered the entire universe with his 3 steps Vamana then arrested > > Bali. > > > > > > When this happened Sukracarya realised the error of his ways and he > > was reminded that sevice to Visnu is the highest type of > > consideration . > > > So a similar thing may happen in Pisces Sukra may give up his ways > > of sense gratification and turn to moksha .As a brahmana he is aware > > of higher principles but he gets distracted by the illusory > > presentations .With respect to GH this was certainly the case . > > > Best Wishes > > > Nicholas > > > > > > > > > - > > > Patrice Curry > > > gjlist > > > Tuesday, December 11, 2001 5:38 AM > > > Re: [GJ] Venus in Pisces > > > > > > > > > Hi Nicholas, > > > > > > From my notes I see Venus is not in an enemy's sign in Pisces. > > Jupiter being a neutral to Venus. (But Venus is an enemy to Jupiter.) > > Also, Venus is Guru/teacher to the Asuras. In Pisces, natural sign > > for moksha, this makes sense as Venus' highest attribute as Guru. > > > > > > You wrote: > > > > > > >>>So Venus'exaltation in an enemy's sign is a quandary Why is > > the planet of sense gratification exalted in the natural sign for > > moksha ? > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Patrice > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > > : gjlist-@e... > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist-@e... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2001 Report Share Posted December 12, 2001 The Name is Shukra-Acharya which becomes Shukracharya and when it is written in english it at times becomes Shukracarya. Manoj >"krishna_savani" <krishna_savani >gjlist >gjlist >Re: [GJ] Venus in Pisces- Nicholas >Thu, 13 Dec 2001 04:07:07 -0000 > >Dear Nicholas, > >The danav sage had the name Shukla, and that name is a surname >currently common in north India. > >Regards, >Krishna. > > > > >gjlist, "Nicholas" <costa@A...> wrote: > > Dear Krishna > > I think we are referring to the same person .I have not seen that >spelling > > before . > > Regards > > Nicholas > > - > > "krishna_savani" <krishna_savani> > > <gjlist> > > Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:41 PM > > Re: [GJ] Venus in Pisces- Nicholas > > > > > > > Dear Nicholas, > > > > > > By any chance do you refer to Shuklacharya when you mention > > > Sukracarya? Shulkacharya was a great guru of the Danavas in Vishnu > > > Puran. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Krishna. > > > > > > > > > gjlist, "Nicholas" <costa@A...> wrote: > > > > Dear Patrice > > > > You are correct > > > > There is a story in the Bhagavata Purana where Sukracarya >advised > > > his disciple Bali Maharaja not to offer charity to Lord Vamana who > > > was an incarnation of Visnu . Bali had conquered the universe and > > > Vamana was a dwarf who asked for 3 of his "small" steps of > > > land .Sukracarya advised his discilpe that Vamana would take > > > everything and they, the Guru and disciple would be left with > > > nothing ..Bali Maharaja disobeyed his Guru and Vamana being Visnu > > > covered the entire universe with his 3 steps Vamana then arrested > > > Bali. > > > > > > > > When this happened Sukracarya realised the error of his ways >and he > > > was reminded that sevice to Visnu is the highest type of > > > consideration . > > > > So a similar thing may happen in Pisces Sukra may give up his >ways > > > of sense gratification and turn to moksha .As a brahmana he is >aware > > > of higher principles but he gets distracted by the illusory > > > presentations .With respect to GH this was certainly the case . > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Nicholas > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Patrice Curry > > > > gjlist > > > > Tuesday, December 11, 2001 5:38 AM > > > > Re: [GJ] Venus in Pisces > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Nicholas, > > > > > > > > From my notes I see Venus is not in an enemy's sign in Pisces. > > > Jupiter being a neutral to Venus. (But Venus is an enemy to >Jupiter.) > > > Also, Venus is Guru/teacher to the Asuras. In Pisces, natural sign > > > for moksha, this makes sense as Venus' highest attribute as Guru. > > > > > > > > You wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>So Venus'exaltation in an enemy's sign is a quandary Why is > > > the planet of sense gratification exalted in the natural sign for > > > moksha ? > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Patrice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > > > : gjlist-@e... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > > : gjlist-@e... > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >: gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > _______________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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