Uttara Phalguna

[Guest guest]

Dear list members

Here is my take on Uttara Phalguna

These people often find their way into management as they combine hard work with

good intelligence and hence are noted for their productivity .This nakshatra is

symbolised by the lower end of the bed and not without good reason as people

born under this nakshtra are often noticed for their sexual escapades(Bill

Clinton,Warren Beatty,Jack Nicholson) .This nakshatra is ruled over by Aryama

the Demigod of patronage and these people are eager to alleviate suffering and

help others through generosity . However the twist here is that seeing

themselves as the one who bestows favors upon others when favors are bestowed

upon them they can be completely ungrateful .

 

They tend to be accurate judges of persons and situations and therefore stand

out for their intelligence but they can behave quite indiscreetly and therefore

the wisdom may not be commeasurate with the intelligence . Although they can

accurately size up a situation they often appear extraordinarily puzzled that

someone else can end up with a different perspective .

 

If one can tolerate their pride they are certainly lively people to be around

and make good friends as they are keen to help others .Just don't expect any

gratitude if you return the favor . :-)

 

Best Wishes

Nicholas

[Guest guest]

Dear Nicholas

I thought that U.P. also represented family on some level....no?

that is why I thought with moon in the 10H my social work with families

was relevant to this nakshatra....

marcia

ps. I can attest to the pride,it is hard to accept things from others. I

don't know if it is ingratitude,

from my perspective, or more the feeling that i should get it or do it on

my own. shame, which looks

to others like ingratitude? is there an element of independence

associated with U.P. as well?

At 03:55 PM 12/30/01 +1100, you wrote:

Dear

list members

Here is my take on Uttara

Phalguna

These people often find their way into

management as they combine hard work with good intelligence and hence are

noted for their productivity .This nakshatra is symbolised by the lower

end of the bed and not without good reason as people born under this

nakshtra are often noticed for their sexual escapades(Bill Clinton,Warren

Beatty,Jack Nicholson) .This nakshatra is ruled over by Aryama the

Demigod of patronage and these people are eager to alleviate suffering

and help others through generosity . However the twist here is that

seeing themselves as the one who bestows favors upon others when favors

are bestowed upon them they can be completely ungrateful

..

 

They tend to be accurate judges of

persons and situations and therefore stand out for their intelligence but

they can behave quite indiscreetly and therefore the wisdom may not be

commeasurate with the intelligence . Although they can accurately size up

a situation they often appear extraordinarily puzzled that someone else

can end up with a different perspective .

 

If one can tolerate their pride they are

certainly lively people to be around and make good friends as they are

keen to help others .Just don't expect any gratitude if you return the

favor . :-)

 

Best Wishes

Nicholas

[Guest guest]

Dear Marcia

Thanks for that .It is always great to get perspectives from inside the

nakshatra to add to the ones you can pick up from outside the nakshtra .

I haven't heard that UP is connected to families but having the moon which has

in its portfolio emotional connections in the 10th house of career in the

nakshtra UP which is renowned for generous help rendered to others it is no

wonder that you have the occupation that you do .Fits together perfectly .

 

Interesting UPs feel that they should obtain through their own efforts which may

to others be interpreted as pride or ingratitude . Shows there are two sides to

every story .

 

Yes there are definite signs of independence with UP which is one reason they do

well as managers . Hastas on the other hand are better as advisor to the manager

than being the manager themself .Chitra managers (such as JFK and Pierre Trudeau

) can have tremendous charisma but may not be as effective as the glamour

appears .

 

Such are the differences between the different nakshatras that make up the same rasi

Nicholas

 

 

 

-

Marcia

gjlist

Monday, December 31, 2001 11:11 AM

Re: [GJ] Uttara Phalguna

Dear NicholasI thought that U.P. also represented family on some

level....no?that is why I thought with moon in the 10H my social work with

families was relevant to this nakshatra....marciaps. I can attest to the

pride,it is hard to accept things from others. I don't know if it is

ingratitude, from my perspective, or more the feeling that i should get it or

do it on my own. shame, which looksto others like ingratitude? is there an

element of independence associated with U.P. as well?

[Guest guest]

Dear All

I'm listening, this is one of the naks. that I understand the least. Please

Marcia and Nicholas, share more.

 

c

 

 

-

Nicholas

gjlist

Monday, December 31, 2001 1:31 AM

Re: [GJ] Uttara Phalguna

Dear Marcia

Thanks for that .It is always great to get perspectives from inside the

nakshatra to add to the ones you can pick up from outside the nakshtra .

I haven't heard that UP is connected to families but having the moon which has

in its portfolio emotional connections in the 10th house of career in the

nakshtra UP which is renowned for generous help rendered to others it is no

wonder that you have the occupation that you do .Fits together perfectly .

 

Interesting UPs feel that they should obtain through their own efforts which may

to others be interpreted as pride or ingratitude . Shows there are two sides to

every story .

 

Yes there are definite signs of independence with UP which is one reason they do

well as managers . Hastas on the other hand are better as advisor to the manager

than being the manager themself .Chitra managers (such as JFK and Pierre Trudeau

) can have tremendous charisma but may not be as effective as the glamour

appears .

 

Such are the differences between the different nakshatras that make up the same rasi

Nicholas

 

 

 

-

Marcia

gjlist

Monday, December 31, 2001 11:11 AM

Re: [GJ] Uttara Phalguna

Dear NicholasI thought that U.P. also represented family on some

level....no?that is why I thought with moon in the 10H my social work with

families was relevant to this nakshatra....marciaps. I can attest to the

pride,it is hard to accept things from others. I don't know if it is

ingratitude, from my perspective, or more the feeling that i should get it or

do it on my own. shame, which looksto others like ingratitude? is there an

element of independence associated with U.P. as well?Om Namo Bhagavate

Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat:

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is subject to the

[Guest guest]

Dear Cynthia

I have not got too much more to offer .One person who nicely typifies this

nakshatra is Pope John Paul 2 a highly intelligent,capable leader full of

concern for the suffering . He is born on the smaller Leo side of this

nakshatra .There are 577 or so members on this list so there must be quite a

few who have some influence of this nakshatra either by rising or by Moon

position and so maybe they could offer their insights .Basically falling mainly

in the service sign of Virgo(6th house) this nakshatra produces servant leader

types .Apprently Bill Clinton would spend considerable time talking to ordinary

people and finding out how they felt about his presidency .

Hope this helps

Nicholas

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cynthia novak

gjlist

Tuesday, January 01, 2002 11:47 AM

Re: [GJ] Uttara Phalguna

Dear All

I'm listening, this is one of the naks. that I understand the least. Please

Marcia and Nicholas, share more.

 

c

 

 

-

Nicholas

gjlist

Monday, December 31, 2001 1:31 AM

Re: [GJ] Uttara Phalguna

Dear Marcia

Thanks for that .It is always great to get perspectives from inside the

nakshatra to add to the ones you can pick up from outside the nakshtra .

I haven't heard that UP is connected to families but having the moon which has

in its portfolio emotional connections in the 10th house of career in the

nakshtra UP which is renowned for generous help rendered to others it is no

wonder that you have the occupation that you do .Fits together perfectly .

 

Interesting UPs feel that they should obtain through their own efforts which may

to others be interpreted as pride or ingratitude . Shows there are two sides to

every story .

 

Yes there are definite signs of independence with UP which is one reason they do

well as managers . Hastas on the other hand are better as advisor to the manager

than being the manager themself .Chitra managers (such as JFK and Pierre Trudeau

) can have tremendous charisma but may not be as effective as the glamour

appears .

 

Such are the differences between the different nakshatras that make up the same rasi

Nicholas

 

 

 

-

Marcia

gjlist

Monday, December 31, 2001 11:11 AM

Re: [GJ] Uttara Phalguna

Dear NicholasI thought that U.P. also represented family on some

level....no?that is why I thought with moon in the 10H my social work with

families was relevant to this nakshatra....marciaps. I can attest to the

pride,it is hard to accept things from others. I don't know if it is

ingratitude, from my perspective, or more the feeling that i should get it or

do it on my own. shame, which looksto others like ingratitude? is there an

element of independence associated with U.P. as well?Om Namo Bhagavate

Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat:

gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of

is subject to the Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare

Krishna; Om Tat Sat:

gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of

is subject to the

[Guest guest]

Happy New Year Nicholas, Cynthia and the rest of the

list!

Regarding U.P.......

I pulled out my notebook from a class I took with Dennis Harness a couple

years ago,

on the nakshatras. He elaborated on the patronage element to this star,

as well as

an advocate that fights for "righteous causes" . This I

personally can relate to, give me a

social cause and I rally. I also can get very emotional when large crowds

gather for social

causes, such as huge music events that musicians put together to raise

money for a

social event.

But back to Dennis--- Strong abandonment issues are woven into this

nakshatra, and natives

tend to want deeper meaningful relationships over superficial

connections.

There is also an element of family unity, and wanting to protect the

family unit.

And it is a sattvic star, whatever that means. I don't have that part of

the nakshatras down yet,

regarding sattvic, dharmic, etc. I know it means the main motivation is

spiritual liberation,

but I haven't figured out how these elements play into the person's life,

in an everyday kind of way.

Marcia

At 06:47 PM 12/31/01 -0600, you wrote:

Dear

All

I'm listening, this is one of the naks. that I

understand the least. Please Marcia and Nicholas, share

more.

 

c

[Guest guest]

Hello Dear Cythia, Nicholas, Marcia, Das, and All List Members - A Very Happy

New Year To You All

 

Cythia, I've wanted to write a response since you first started on this with all

the fun with the Nakshatras. It's been wonderful to hear your take and the

lively responses. Great insights and I like the personality you somehow attach

to them. It's given a great way to develop understanding of them with more

depth more thoroughly for me. Huge thanks. All list members contributions on

Nakshatras have been wonderful to see - thanks for all.

 

I have my Mars in Uttara Phalguna, Mars is YogaKaraka in my chart with Leo

rising and this Mars is then located in the second house. I'll give some

thought to exactly what I think it gives me and the influence of this Uttara

Phalguna. I do have immense energy for study and also to do lots of things with

my hands related to creating anything that is useful. This second house has

Venus as well, and Saturn sandwiched between the two. I love doing things with

my hands but seem to always be drawn straight away to something that can be

used, eaten, worn, listened to, etc. I have for some time, years now, been

doing a lot of work on our house, tiling, laying stone, tearing down walls and

helping to build new ones, painting, carving. Again, all kind of arty stuff but

for some use and more crafty than arty. ..... I do teach cooking, spinning,

knitting as well. Or should say I have often in the past. Teaching less

recently. My Saturn is in Hasta which has to do with hands, correct. (Venus is

Chitra, and this Mercury that houses them all in Virgo is Mula. I don't know if

any of this will explain this direction more.) I also play a Celtic harp - again

HANDS!

 

This is all kind of outer worldly things but the passion and drive behind it

perhaps from this Mars. I will give some thought to what I think it gives me

more internally. There is definitely an energy and quest, need really, to

beautify my surroundings in ways that are useful.

 

I also wanted to mention something else you all may have some insight into or

noticed before in your work with regards to Nakshatras: I have Ketu in my first

house and it's in a Ketu lorded Nakshatra (Magha) and then Mercury, again it's

also the Lord housing the three above planets, is in the 5th in a Ketu lorded

Nakshatra (Mula). Now this is really odd but since my studies have begun with

Jyotish, I've wondered if this Ketu may be the answer to this: You know how

some alarm systems have a motion detector... When I enter a room, not every

time, but very often, and the system is on, it does not detect me for quite

some time. This is just not the case with anyone else that enters, right off

the bat it picks them up. Also, at traffic lights where the light has to pick

up your car to signal the light to change (you know late at night or very early

mornings, etc.) I can often sit forever and they just don't pick up me - and my

heavy auto - at all. Again, not every time, but often. My family always takes

great delight in these oddities and anyone else around finds it pretty odd,

such as the guy who installs and works the alarm systems. It seems he just

didn't believe me until he saw it himself... kind of funny... ;-) Sounds like

Ketu... (And Ketu and Mercury are electricity right.)

 

Again, thanks for all the Nakshatra tales, explanations and insights that have

been busy on here for awhile. They have been VERY helpful and useful in

learning and really enjoyable.

 

All best regards,

Patrice

[Guest guest]

on 1/1/02 11:51 pm, Marcia at marcia (AT) neteze (DOT) com wrote:

And it is a sattvic star, whatever that means. I don't have that part of the nakshatras down yet,

regarding sattvic, dharmic, etc. I know it means the main motivation is spiritual liberation,

but I haven't figured out how these elements play into the person's life, in an

everyday kind of way.

Marcia

Dear Marcia,

I think you mean Uttara Phalguni nakshatra, as listed in GJ's material. Its

'guna' or quality is listed there as raja, not sattva. Raja being passion,

sattva being goodness, and tama being ignorance. That's how I understand it as

presented in GJ.

regards

Arthur

[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

This webpage has some pretty interesting interpretations:

http://www.dirah.demon.nl/nakshatras.htm

 

Should clear your Sattva related doubts, methinks.

K.

-

Marcia

gjlist

Wednesday, January 02, 2002 5:21 AM

Re: [GJ] Uttara Phalguna

 

 

Happy New Year Nicholas, Cynthia and the rest of the list!

 

Regarding U.P.......

I pulled out my notebook from a class I took with Dennis Harness a couple

years ago,

on the nakshatras. He elaborated on the patronage element to this star, as

well as

an advocate that fights for "righteous causes" . This I personally can

relate to, give me a

social cause and I rally. I also can get very emotional when large crowds

gather for social

causes, such as huge music events that musicians put together to raise money

for a

social event.

But back to Dennis--- Strong abandonment issues are woven into this

nakshatra, and natives

tend to want deeper meaningful relationships over superficial connections.

There is also an element of family unity, and wanting to protect the family

unit.

And it is a sattvic star, whatever that means. I don't have that part of the

nakshatras down yet,

regarding sattvic, dharmic, etc. I know it means the main motivation is

spiritual liberation,

but I haven't figured out how these elements play into the person's life, in

an everyday kind of way.

 

Marcia

 

 

 

 

At 06:47 PM 12/31/01 -0600, you wrote:

 

Dear All

I'm listening, this is one of the naks. that I understand the least. Please

Marcia and Nicholas, share more.

 

c

 

 

 

 

 

 

Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

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