Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 You wrote<<Here's a doubt:I watched a respected and well known astrologer on television,in an episode where he answered a viewer's question about gems.He clearly said that one should not separate the gems from thebody after they have been purified by puja and mantras. According tohim, after a gem has been installed and worn, it becomes an extensionof your body. Also, it should not be given to or worn by another personeven for a short time, because you never know what effect it may haveon that person, especially since you have endowed it with special energywhen you chant mantras.What do you think of this person's views? Please tell me because I amconfused.>>Me Dear Kundalika Thank you for your question. For the set up of a gem, the natural vibration of the jeweler "contaminates" the gem, ring or setting. There are different ways "to clean" that, either with pure water, lemon juice or milk (according to the gem), or with mantras. The wearing of a gem, ring or setting or just the "handling" of it can "transmit" the personal energies of the person and to avoid them, a cleansing process is recommended. The astrologer on TV that you have mentioned is right in his beliefs about gems but there is also the belief that installed gems should not be taken to contaminated places. In the case of my friend that "lend" me his ring. He had two choices. One of them was to take his installed ring to a toilet and the other choice was to give me the ring to keep outside of it. Obviously, I was going to "contaminate" the ring less and later on, my friend could "clean" the ring with mantras more easily. An installed gem is not an ornament, it is like a dear friend that you "please" or "feed" with daily mantras and care. It is like after receiving a mantra after initiation, we start to walk on a spiritual path. The guru, guides us on that spiritual path and gives us advice and protection. We do the walk, no him. Guru is like the co-pilot. As long as we follow his instructions, we are safe. But if we deviate an inch from his instructions, we "fall". I was told that there are many unseen living beings. Some of them are good and some are bad. The good ones can help us but the bad ones are envious and harmful. When the bad entities perceive that a person has started the spiritual path, its envy puts obstacles or temptations on that path. Therefore, we should be like spiritual warriors, always alert and ready to satisfy the bona fide spiritual master. Spiritual initiation is like a contract between the sadhu (student) and the Guru. According to that contract, the guru promises to guide, care, protect and take the sadhu to the spiritual realm. But if that contract is broken, the guru has nothing to deal with that sadhu. However, once a sadhu "falls" from the spiritual path, he/she has the alternative to "reconnect" again or to get initiated by another bona fide guru. The spiritual path may take one lifetime or many hundreds of lives, it depends on many factors, one of them is our own will power and the other is God's mercy. On that path we are given the symptoms or "signs on the path" that we are on the right direction. Once you start that path, just follow the signs to the end. That path is not an ordinary path and therefore we need the help of a map and guidance, that is why we are told to take shelter of guru, sastra and sadhu. By bona fide guru, I mean the spiritual master, the representative or agent of God that can deliver God because he/she knows the path to Him. The Vedas say that by the mercy of Krishna, we find the guru and by the mercy of guru, we find Krishna. We were told as well no to drink water from a toilet or bathroom tap, because unseen living beings dwell there and when drinking that water, we risk to become possessed by them. Also, we must avoid crossing a cemetery with raw food (unprepared) or food that has not being offered to God, because the many unseen living entities living in that place can "contaminate" that food. So, after reading about this information, it is up to you to think what to do. Many thanks for asking for this clarification. It helps to clarify the matter but any questions are welcome. Best wishes from one spiritual warrior. J Natabara Das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 Dear Natabara, Many thanks for your answer. I don't know much about gems, there are conflicting views on gems all the time. My Grandfather, who is also my Guru, doesn't prescribe gems, or encourage their use. Instead he asks natives to pray to a deity, and he is quite fatalistic in his approach. He thinks that what is written in a horoscope will happen anyway, a gem can do little to change it. Best wishes, K. Me Dear Kundalika Thank you for your question. For the set up of a gem, the natural vibration of the jeweler "contaminates" the gem, ring or setting. There are different ways "to clean" that, either with pure water, lemon juice or milk (according to the gem), or with mantras. The wearing of a gem, ring or setting or just the "handling" of it can "transmit" the personal energies of the person and to avoid them, a cleansing process is recommended. The astrologer on TV that you have mentioned is right in his beliefs about gems but there is also the belief that installed gems should not be taken to contaminated places. In the case of my friend that "lend" me his ring. He had two choices. One of them was to take his installed ring to a toilet and the other choice was to give me the ring to keep outside of it. Obviously, I was going to "contaminate" the ring less and later on, my friend could "clean" the ring with mantras more easily. An installed gem is not an ornament, it is like a dear friend that you "please" or "feed" with daily mantras and care. It is like after receiving a mantra after initiation, we start to walk on a spiritual path. The guru, guides us on that spiritual path and gives us advice and protection. We do the walk, no him. Guru is like the co-pilot. As long as we follow his instructions, we are safe. But if we deviate an inch from his instructions, we "fall". I was told that there are many unseen living beings. Some of them are good and some are bad. The good ones can help us but the bad ones are envious and harmful. When the bad entities perceive that a person has started the spiritual path, its envy puts obstacles or temptations on that path. Therefore, we should be like spiritual warriors, always alert and ready to satisfy the bona fide spiritual master. Spiritual initiation is like a contract between the sadhu (student) and the Guru. According to that contract, the guru promises to guide, care, protect and take the sadhu to the spiritual realm. But if that contract is broken, the guru has nothing to deal with that sadhu. However, once a sadhu "falls" from the spiritual path, he/she has the alternative to "reconnect" again or to get initiated by another bona fide guru. The spiritual path may take one lifetime or many hundreds of lives, it depends on many factors, one of them is our own will power and the other is God's mercy. On that path we are given the symptoms or "signs on the path" that we are on the right direction. Once you start that path, just follow the signs to the end. That path is not an ordinary path and therefore we need the help of a map and guidance, that is why we are told to take shelter of guru, sastra and sadhu. By bona fide guru, I mean the spiritual master, the representative or agent of God that can deliver God because he/she knows the path to Him. The Vedas say that by the mercy of Krishna, we find the guru and by the mercy of guru, we find Krishna. We were told as well no to drink water from a toilet or bathroom tap, because unseen living beings dwell there and when drinking that water, we risk to become possessed by them. Also, we must avoid crossing a cemetery with raw food (unprepared) or food that has not being offered to God, because the many unseen living entities living in that place can "contaminate" that food. So, after reading about this information, it is up to you to think what to do. Many thanks for asking for this clarification. It helps to clarify the matter but any questions are welcome. Best wishes from one spiritual warrior. J Natabara Das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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