Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 Hi Wendy, I've just looked at the chart that you are considering for Arthur with respect to children. Whether this is the accurate chart or not, I have a couple questions regarding this particular chart, if you don't mind. Please forgive my still beginner status here as I move around below: I see the strong factors and delays with regard to restricting children with the things you mentioned along with other indicators, and I'm wondering if all these things are a complete indication of cancellation of having children. This Moon is eclipsed and waning but in Taurus and giving full aspect onto Jupiter in the 8th. Would you say this appears to be a strong Moon in chart as AtmaKaraka and with this Moon in Moon Lorded Nakshatra, Rohini? Would you consider this a benefic Moon's aspect on the natural Karaka for children? Also, taken from Chandra Lagna, that full 6th house is then the 5th house and Jupiter in the 7th. An exalted Mercury 5th house but still complicated and a lot going on with Sun, Rahu and Mars even though Mars is in house of a great enemy. Saturn does has a pretty tight aspect with all in that house and on Mercury. In Saptamsha, 5th lord Venus is debilitated in the 4th house. As far as timing goes native is 42 years now and just entering Saturn Mahadasa. In what dasas would you have seen or could still see any indication of children? Thanks very much Wendy. Also, how would you speak to the causes of the problems or inability to have children from a physical standpoint? If this native were young and realized the problems with having children would you have seen a way to recommend remedies? Again, thanks very much. I appreciate your time on these questions as I ask to continue learning and gain a fuller understanding. All best regards and wishes, Patrice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 Dear Patrice, In this chart Moon is neutral to Jupiter so is neither going to offer any great help nor any great resistance. Moon's effect on Jupiter is luke-warm...neither this nor that. Certainly Moon is exalted in Taurus but is way past it's degree of exaltation, is waning and (as you Know) a natural Benefic owning a kendra is slightly malefic in it's effect. This is particularly so in this chart as Moon owns 12th from 5th (children). So I can't really see any great benefit coming from this Moon. The native is now in Saturn dasa. Saturn occupies 8th in Saptamsha whilst (as you say) Venus (in 5th Rashi) is debilitated in this chart....the combination of these things do not bode well for children. We have to consider when the birth of children may (can) occur. It has to be either in the period of a planet occupying the 5th, a period of 5th lord, a period of Jupiter, or (to a lesser degree) in the period of a strong planet aspecting any of the aforementioned. If these planets are not favourable (for birth of children) then the native is denied this...this desire cannot come to fruition. Look at the preceding Jupiter period (as an example). One would expect this to be the most favourable period for children. We see that, although Jupiter is in 8th, he occupies the rising Saptamsha. This certainly brings the desire for children to the forefront. But with Jupiter's star lord Saturn in 8th Saptamsha whilst his dispositor (Mercury) is in the 12th, we see the great difficulty (obstacle) that this desire has met with. Best Wishes,Wendy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Wendy Vasicek: Vedic Astrologerhttp://www.members.tripod.com/ganesh_astro/JyotishVidyawenvas (AT) dingoblue (DOT) net.au~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hi Wendy, I've just looked at the chart that you are considering for Arthur with respect to children. Whether this is the accurate chart or not, I have a couple questions regarding this particular chart, if you don't mind. Please forgive my still beginner status here as I move around below: I see the strong factors and delays with regard to restricting children with the things you mentioned along with other indicators, and I'm wondering if all these things are a complete indication of cancellation of having children. This Moon is eclipsed and waning but in Taurus and giving full aspect onto Jupiter in the 8th. Would you say this appears to be a strong Moon in chart as AtmaKaraka and with this Moon in Moon Lorded Nakshatra, Rohini? Would you consider this a benefic Moon's aspect on the natural Karaka for children? Also, taken from Chandra Lagna, that full 6th house is then the 5th house and Jupiter in the 7th. An exalted Mercury 5th house but still complicated and a lot going on with Sun, Rahu and Mars even though Mars is in house of a great enemy. Saturn does has a pretty tight aspect with all in that house and on Mercury. In Saptamsha, 5th lord Venus is debilitated in the 4th house. As far as timing goes native is 42 years now and just entering Saturn Mahadasa. In what dasas would you have seen or could still see any indication of children? Thanks very much Wendy. Also, how would you speak to the causes of the problems or inability to have children from a physical standpoint? If this native were young and realized the problems with having children would you have seen a way to recommend remedies? Again, thanks very much. I appreciate your time on these questions as I ask to continue learning and gain a fuller understanding. All best regards and wishes, Patrice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 Dear Wendy, Thank you for your very clear reply. I'm sitting here up too late but reading Jyotish texts and your response and explanations to my questions are a delight to me; thank you. Also for explaining how the Saptamsha shows the desire for children brought to the forefront with Jupiter in the rising in that varga chart. Best thoughts Wendy, Patrice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2002 Report Share Posted January 9, 2002 on 8/1/02 5:27 am, Wendy Vasicek at wenvas (AT) dingoblue (DOT) net.au wrote: Than you Wendy for your informative analysis of 'first child birth' obstacles in the woman's chart. Her more likely period in Jupiter has now slipped away without any result. And the overall combination does not bode well for children. But I'll keep you informed if there is any progress with the mantras and Vastu Pyramid. Regards Arthur Dear Patrice, In this chart Moon is neutral to Jupiter so is neither going to offer any great help nor any great resistance. Moon's effect on Jupiter is luke-warm...neither this nor that. Certainly Moon is exalted in Taurus but is way past it's degree of exaltation, is waning and (as you Know) a natural Benefic owning a kendra is slightly malefic in it's effect. This is particularly so in this chart as Moon owns 12th from 5th (children). So I can't really see any great benefit coming from this Moon. The native is now in Saturn dasa. Saturn occupies 8th in Saptamsha whilst (as you say) Venus (in 5th Rashi) is debilitated in this chart....the combination of these things do not bode well for children. We have to consider when the birth of children may (can) occur. It has to be either in the period of a planet occupying the 5th, a period of 5th lord, a period of Jupiter, or (to a lesser degree) in the period of a strong planet aspecting any of the aforementioned. If these planets are not favourable (for birth of children) then the native is denied this...this desire cannot come to fruition. Look at the preceding Jupiter period (as an example). One would expect this to be the most favourable period for children. We see that, although Jupiter is in 8th, he occupies the rising Saptamsha. This certainly brings the desire for children to the forefront. But with Jupiter's star lord Saturn in 8th Saptamsha whilst his dispositor (Mercury) is in the 12th, we see the great difficulty (obstacle) that this desire has met with. Best Wishes, Wendy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Wendy Vasicek: Vedic Astrologer http://www.members.tripod.com/ganesh_astro/ JyotishVidya wenvas (AT) dingoblue (DOT) net.au ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hi Wendy, I've just looked at the chart that you are considering for Arthur with respect to children. Whether this is the accurate chart or not, I have a couple questions regarding this particular chart, if you don't mind. Please forgive my still beginner status here as I move around below: I see the strong factors and delays with regard to restricting children with the things you mentioned along with other indicators, and I'm wondering if all these things are a complete indication of cancellation of having children. This Moon is eclipsed and waning but in Taurus and giving full aspect onto Jupiter in the 8th. Would you say this appears to be a strong Moon in chart as AtmaKaraka and with this Moon in Moon Lorded Nakshatra, Rohini? Would you consider this a benefic Moon's aspect on the natural Karaka for children? Also, taken from Chandra Lagna, that full 6th house is then the 5th house and Jupiter in the 7th. An exalted Mercury 5th house but still complicated and a lot going on with Sun, Rahu and Mars even though Mars is in house of a great enemy. Saturn does has a pretty tight aspect with all in that house and on Mercury. In Saptamsha, 5th lord Venus is debilitated in the 4th house. As far as timing goes native is 42 years now and just entering Saturn Mahadasa. In what dasas would you have seen or could still see any indication of children? Thanks very much Wendy. Also, how would you speak to the causes of the problems or inability to have children from a physical standpoint? If this native were young and realized the problems with having children would you have seen a way to recommend remedies? Again, thanks very much. I appreciate your time on these questions as I ask to continue learning and gain a fuller understanding. All best regards and wishes, Patrice Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat : gjlist- Terms of Service <> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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