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Guest guest Posted January 12, 2002 Report Share Posted January 12, 2002 Zamani Wrote: >>>Whos is to say that an accurate birthtime isnt when the baby is just removed from the mother, even before the cord is cut., or when the head is revealed etc.<<< My own experience is proof positive for me. If my Son's time was recorded "when the head was revealed" he would have Scorpio lagna and not Sagittarius (as I know to be correct). So this is more than just a hypothesis, it's a direct experience! The only thing that could nullify this truth is that both the hospital and I got the time wrong, or that my knowledge of jyotish is sufficiently lacking that I cannot read my Son's chart. Best Wishes,Wendy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Wendy Vasicek: Vedic Astrologerhttp://www.members.tripod.com/ganesh_astro/JyotishVidyawenvas (AT) dingoblue (DOT) net.au~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - Zamani Feelings gjlist Sunday, January 13, 2002 6:39 AM [GJ] Whos to say on Birthtiming I have heard several different Astrologers give commentary concerning what scenario during birthing is "proper" for an accurate birthtime.Im open to all opinions but arent we usurping some serious authority when we make claims to knowing when a persons "Karma Begins"? If these things are certain than who can actually say that they have an accurate birthtime to the minute?......Zamani Send FREE video emails in Mail. Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2002 Report Share Posted January 13, 2002 Dear Zamani, dear Wendy, Arthur and all. So it is, Zamani! Perhaps birth is when the soul enters body again. But may be, we can`t see it. In Wendy`s case her son had to wait for his soul for about 2 hours. Perhaps due to heavenly rush hour? Here one should work with both charts as long as one of them will prove to be true. I have 5 children. The youngest came to world by sectio and I have to accept the time, they told me, hence I couldn`t watch the clock due to a curtain, they fixed over my body. But I took the baby immediately and watched his eyes. Our other children are born at home but I didn`t whatch the clock too - I only watched my babys and their eyes. (The midwife gave me their TOB times later.) Believe me, you`ll see the soul in their eyes! There is something with their body when the soul arrives. No matter, if the umbilical cord may be seperated or not. In natural births of healthy babys the soul normally follows in the first minute but umbilical cord will be seperated after 5 or 10 minutes or even later. So, take that time they give to you first, as it is not so far away from the real AC. When life continues you`ll have enough possibilities to make your rectifications. By the way, I`m still looking für Michael Jacksons TOB. Can somebody help? Best wishes, Ilona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2002 Report Share Posted January 13, 2002 Dear Wendy and all I had always been told that the chart was to be set at first breath. I will admit that I have a lot of "faith" in the birth process. Recently a client asked if it would be wrong of her to have her baby induced so he would be born in 2001 and be a tax deduction. I responded that no matter how controlling she wanted to be, I have faith that someone or something would stand in her way if it were wrong. She asked her doctor who said "I will not!!! induce a baby who is doing fine!" BTW, the baby was born right on his due date on the 27th of December. Sometimes I think we need to accept what was written on the birth certificate until it is proven wrong. Sometimes we need to have a little faith even when we want to be in control or at least absolutely accurate. I will rectify a chart that doesn't work. But I like to know it doesn't work first. Just musing in "D" c - Wendy Vasicek gjlist Saturday, January 12, 2002 10:26 PM Re: [GJ] Whos to say on Birthtiming Zamani Wrote: >>>Whos is to say that an accurate birthtime isnt when the baby is just removed from the mother, even before the cord is cut., or when the head is revealed etc.<<< My own experience is proof positive for me. If my Son's time was recorded "when the head was revealed" he would have Scorpio lagna and not Sagittarius (as I know to be correct). So this is more than just a hypothesis, it's a direct experience! The only thing that could nullify this truth is that both the hospital and I got the time wrong, or that my knowledge of jyotish is sufficiently lacking that I cannot read my Son's chart. Best Wishes,Wendy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Wendy Vasicek: Vedic Astrologerhttp://www.members.tripod.com/ganesh_astro/JyotishVidyawenvas (AT) dingoblue (DOT) net.au~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - Zamani Feelings gjlist Sunday, January 13, 2002 6:39 AM [GJ] Whos to say on Birthtiming I have heard several different Astrologers give commentary concerning what scenario during birthing is "proper" for an accurate birthtime.Im open to all opinions but arent we usurping some serious authority when we make claims to knowing when a persons "Karma Begins"? If these things are certain than who can actually say that they have an accurate birthtime to the minute?......Zamani Send FREE video emails in Mail. Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 My own experience is proof positive for me. If my Son's time was recorded "when the head was revealed" he would have Scorpio lagna and not Sagittarius (as I know to be correct). So this is more than just a hypothesis, it's a direct experience! The only thing that could nullify this truth is that both the hospital and I got the time wrong, or that my knowledge of jyotish is sufficiently lacking that I cannot read my Son's chart. Best Wishes, Wendy Dear Wendy So would I be right to conclude that the birth time of a native BEGINS exactly when the actual physical connection (umbilical cord) is severed from the mother? Thanks regards Arthur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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