Guest guest Posted January 23, 2002 Report Share Posted January 23, 2002 Dear Members, I am a learner of Astrology and observing my horoscope for quite a long time , but unable to understand the games playing by the Planets. My date of birth is 13.11.1954 lat. 25N 26 and long 87E50 , near Malda, India. Time 2.53.12 a.m. >From my young age I was interested in Astrology and when I first shown my horoscope to a renowned Astrologer of that place, he sketched a beautiful portrait about my life. Thereafter I have shown my chart to a number of Astrologers but almost all of their Predictions are matching with each other but Practically Predictions are not coming true. Then I thought there may be something wrong with my time of birth (it should not happen, because my father was a Doctor) then I went to many good Palmists, they also gave many high hopes about life like Astrologers, which were again proved wrong. Then I searched and come across few good saints who are really not after money and they are known for successful predictions, they also predicted by seeing my face to the Tune of Astrologers and Palmists and needless to say they also failed miserably. I meet all of those respected saints, astrologers and palmists in various cities in India and how come their Predictions are matching each others but not materializing in life ? Some of them said I would own Aero Plane, some said I will produce Film/ mega TV Serial, purchase costly bungalows and many more dreams. (I FEEL SHY TO WRITE THIS). However, I had no such dream in mind and always wanted to lead a simple and happy life. Why all this sadhus, astrologers and palmists showed dreams? Are they not guilty? My question is why Such things are happening? Is there any power who is obstructing and if so can that power over-rule the planets? Now let me brief the chart. Asc. Virgo and Asc. Lord associated with exalted Saturn in libra and Sun (Neechbhanga), Venus® in 3rd house. Rahu in 4th house (Neechbhanga) exalted Mars in 5th house, Moon in 9th house Mooltrikona, Ketu in 10th house and Jupiter in 11th house and again exalted. At present I am running Saturn Mahadasha with Venus antardasha who are 5th and 9th lord and also the friend of Ascendent lord. Saturn is aspecting to the 11th house cancer and in transit also Saturn is aspecting to cancer but I am financially in a deep crisis, as for the last 10 month I had no source of income and simply finishing the resources which may help me hardly for next 2 to 3 months. I had observed similar situation number of times in last 25 years. If I get some work and earn some good amount at a time I will not get work for a long time. The time span of locking lasts, according to my observation, FROM SIX MONTHS TO 18 MONTHS. During my locking period I have tried a number of time to achieve goals, but all the time lost my confidence and when seats back with full of frustration, the grace would come forward. This is the regular game someone is playing with me. If the life is full with so much of hurdles, then what are the influence and results of having so many exalted planets? I have passed full mahadasha of exalted Jupiter and passed many years of exalted Saturn (in highest digree). I am looking for your advise :- 1. How long I have to face the difficulties about money matters, because I am the only earning member in the family ? 2. About my spiritual development. Up to what extent I could achieve the spiritual goal AND WHEN? Regards- Bimal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2002 Report Share Posted January 23, 2002 Bimal, You are undergoing Sade Sati which traditionally give difficulties for everyone. Also, your Saturn is rather weak because of its closeness to the Sun. You should either ask a pandit to perform yagyas to mitigate the effects of Saturn, or wear a blue sapphire ring to strengthen your Saturn. Regards, John R. --- Shilpi <omship wrote: > > Dear Members, > > > > I am a learner of Astrology and observing my > horoscope for quite a long time , but unable to > understand the games playing by the Planets. > > My date of birth is 13.11.1954 lat. 25N 26 and > long 87E50 , near Malda, India. Time 2.53.12 a.m. > > From my young age I was interested in Astrology and > when I first shown my horoscope to a renowned > Astrologer of that place, he sketched a beautiful > portrait about my life. Thereafter I have shown my > chart to a number of Astrologers but almost all of > their Predictions are matching with each other but > Practically Predictions are not coming true. Then I > thought there may be something wrong with my time of > birth (it should not happen, because my father was a > Doctor) then I went to many good Palmists, they also > gave many high hopes about life like Astrologers, > which were again proved wrong. Then I searched and > come across few good saints who are really not > after money and they are known for successful > predictions, they also predicted by seeing my face > to the Tune of Astrologers and Palmists and needless > to say they also failed miserably. > > I meet all of those respected saints, astrologers > and palmists in various cities in India and how come > their Predictions are matching each others but not > materializing in life ? > > Some of them said I would own Aero Plane, some > said I will produce Film/ mega TV Serial, purchase > costly bungalows and many more dreams. (I FEEL SHY > TO WRITE THIS). > > However, I had no such dream in mind and always > wanted to lead a simple and happy life. Why all > this sadhus, astrologers and palmists showed > dreams? Are they not guilty? > > My question is why Such things are happening? Is > there any power who is obstructing and if so can > that power over-rule the planets? > > > > Now let me brief the chart. Asc. Virgo and Asc. Lord > associated with exalted Saturn in libra and Sun > (Neechbhanga), Venus® in 3rd house. Rahu in 4th > house (Neechbhanga) exalted Mars in 5th house, Moon > in 9th house Mooltrikona, Ketu in 10th house and > Jupiter in 11th house and again exalted. > > At present I am running Saturn Mahadasha with Venus > antardasha who are 5th and 9th lord and also the > friend of Ascendent lord. Saturn is aspecting to the > 11th house cancer and in transit also Saturn is > aspecting to cancer but I am financially in a deep > crisis, as for the last 10 month I had no source of > income and simply finishing the resources which may > help me hardly for next 2 to 3 months. > > I had observed similar situation number of times in > last 25 years. If I get some work and earn some good > amount at a time I will not get work for a long > time. > > The time span of locking lasts, according to my > observation, FROM SIX MONTHS TO 18 MONTHS. > > During my locking period I have tried a number of > time to achieve goals, but all the time lost my > confidence and when seats back with full of > frustration, the grace would come forward. > > This is the regular game someone is playing with me. > > If the life is full with so much of hurdles, then > what are the influence and results of having so many > exalted planets? I have passed full mahadasha of > exalted Jupiter and passed many years of exalted > Saturn (in highest digree). > > I am looking for your advise :- > > 1. How long I have to face the difficulties > > about money matters, because I am the only earning > member in the family ? > > 2. About my spiritual development. Up to what > extent I could achieve the spiritual goal AND WHEN? > > Regards- > > Bimal > > Send FREE video emails in Mail! http://promo./videomail/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2002 Report Share Posted January 23, 2002 Dear Bimal! This is a slightly complex horoscope. The Planetary positions are - Planet Long Nakshatra Pad - Sun 206.74 Visakha (Jup) 3 Merc 187.78 Svati (Rah) 1 Venu®210.64 Visakha (Jup) 4 Mars 291.73 Sravana (Mon) 4 Jupt 96.67 Pushya (Sat) 2 Satn 199.81 Svati (Rah) 4 Moon 59.04 Mrigasiras(Mar) 2 Rahu 254.79 Purvasada (Ven) 1 Ketu 74.79 Ardra (Rah) 3 - Before we say anything lets analyse a bit. Moon in Taurus at 29D 2M in its Moolatrikona place and is weak. (Note: From 3D-30D of Taurus, moon is in Moolatrikona and not in Exaltation). Jupiter is 6D, just passed its deepest exaltation. Saturn is 19D, moving towards deepest exaltation. Sun is 26D, moving away from deepest debilitation. Mars is 21D, moving towards deepest exaltion. Looking at the Shadbala's: Sun- 111% Moon- 89.2% Mars- 119.1% Merc- 105.0% Jup- 124.7% Venus- 136.7% Saturn- 138.5% As seen from above Venus and Saturn are very strong planets, followed by Jupiter, Mars, Sun, Merc and Moon. The Points to note is Lagna Lord Merc. is weak. It is assoc. with 5th and 6th Lord Saturn and 12th lord Sun. Now Look at the Shadbala of the houses: 1-8.71 2-9 3-7.33 4-8.95 5-9.14 6-8.09 7-9.78 8-7.32 9-8.64 10-8.14 11-5.47 12-6.04 If we look at the Dasa pattern of Bimal, his life started with the Dasa of Mars (His Moon is in Mrigasira Nakshatra). The second dasa was of Rahu, followed by Jupiter and now it is of Saturn. Now these dasa's are long. Like Rahu is of 18 years, Jupiter of 16 years and Saturn now which is of 19 years. Coming to Bimal's Question: How long I have to face the difficulties about money matters, because I am the only earning member in the family ? Well, If you look at ur second house, it has some major afflications. Saturn thou exalted also rules the 6th house, which is a house of Debt. Still it is in conjunction with Merc (even thou it is not that close). So benefic qualities are there because of the comb. of 10th,LL Merc with Saturn. Now what spoils it is Sun who is in Neecha and also the 12th lord. Since Sun is moving away from Debilitation, from Saturn its somewhat medium in Strength(Also getting a NeechaBhanga with Saturn).But as Sun gets strength it is depleting the wealth(signified by 2nd house). The good thing is Venus is in the 3rd house which somehows just let the things pass getting help from jupiter. So God takes care of you even in the worst situation (he gives min. wealth to survive). But this Dasa won't be good in terms of finance and family matters. he is running Saturn-Venus. This dasa needs a lot of home work to be done before coming to conclusion. Since Saturn and Venus are both most powerful planets in the horoscope. And both are afflicted in similiar ways Like Saturn/Sun/Merc in the house of Venus And 12th from Venus. Acc. to Jataka Chandrika, shloka 40, If both the Saturn and Venus are strong the native will have worst results in life. Its like the reversal of Fortune. Even thou they may promise the best in the native's life. Also, Saturn and Sun have a 2-12 relationship. Apart from that Bimal is running under Sade-Sati. Look at the 11th house of gains, even thou Jupiter is there it doesn't help in the house where it is posited. It improves the houses it aspects and its not good in the 11th house.Also, in Shadbala your 11th is weak even thou u get more points in AstakaVarga.It doesn't help for Jupiter is exalted in the 11th aspected by 8th Lord Mars and 6th lord Saturn. Also, Saturn-Sun is coming down the line. I would advice you to do Surya Namaskar. Dont wear a Sapphire ever. But in Saturn's dasa you can give black coloured stuff in charity to poor like Black Urd daal, Mustard oil, etc. Jupiter moving into 11th house from Lagna after July should give some relief. I shall answer more later after getting the views of others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2002 Report Share Posted January 23, 2002 Dear Bimal Note that you have exalted Saturn and having 10th aspect on Jupiter the lord of seventh house. No religious Activities for you. And one more precaution it has been observed those who have Jupiter in seventh house or aspect on seventh lord or have aspect on seventh house they should not keep any temple or any God statue or photos. So kindly avoid it (Please note I don’t want to hurt any sentiments but this is fact which I have learnt from my experience and if any one who are having this combination will always have some kind of disturbance in there home.) You can reach God by detach Karma and the path of meditation only this root will only help. Never any yagya or rituals etc. The reason that no one is able to predict is that your aura is very strong and no one can penetrate your aura. And you don’t go by surrender form if you always go to check the astrologer you won’t get any thing in return he will never able to predict properly. And you know that in your chart you don’t have any aspect on lagan, lagan lord or on moon that is why you are not able to get the Guru Kirpa (blessings) those only who have aspect of Jupiter on Ascendant, Ascendant Lord on moon or Moon connected to ninth house. But right now you will get the correct guidance as your Jupiter is transiting from 10th house and aspects the lord of first house. You can put saffron Tilak on your forehead it will open your third eye which will give you intuition and right knowledge this will able to clear your path and avoid your temptation towards self gratification of material world. And if you could do that might be that you would reach near to your self and reaching your soul is reaching the God as it said that soul is always connected to God but we cannot listen the voice of soul because our mind, our ego and the material world (Maya) Note those who are having earthy sign are more prone to Maya Net but they could break that spell by detach Karma only. You have asked when will my financial position will improve. You can observe those who are more near to God or there soul they have a kind of combination where they will have to face much financial crises. You can take the example of Shiva he is always blessed with himself always meditating but he lives a life of a beggar. He can give any boon to any person but he is contented with him self. You have a power that you can help any one who is suffering with any pain or sorrow you have the power but you don’t use that because you think what will I get in return. And if you could help some one without any self-interest. You will find that all your needs have been fulfilled and now don’t say that your needs are not full filled it is also indicating that you have all the material things which a persons require a good home, nice car and good Job. But you don’t have any bank balance and that you will have never. Until you help other people without any self motive. Secondly you asked about the spiritual development. Up to what extent I could achieve the spiritual goal and when. Don’t try to measure that what extent you have reached because you cannot measure the ocean and you never know in water where you are, in bottom or at shore but always try to swim and one day you will find that ocean and you are one there will be no two persons you both will become one. And if you try to measure you are on wrong track you are on a track of Maya. Your date of birth is 13 which is a number of Rahu the planet of materialism and worldly comforts and your moon sign is Taurus which is a earthy sign, your ascendant is Virgo which is also earthy sign only your sun (the soul) is placed in Libra which is a air sign the sign of balance. The conclusion is that you always have an inner conflict between your souls and your mind. You can say that you have done many divine activities in your past life but due to some wrong deeds you have got these combination so that you could always have inner conflict and if you could start doing only karma and leave the fruits to God you will be librated this is the only path for you I wish you all the best from me May God help you to reach God. Tarun Chopra On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 John Rasonabe wrote : > Bimal, > > You are undergoing Sade Sati which traditionally give > difficulties for everyone. Also, your Saturn is > rather weak because of its closeness to the Sun. > > You should either ask a pandit to perform yagyas to > mitigate the effects of Saturn, or wear a blue > sapphire ring to strengthen your Saturn. > > Regards, > > John R. > > > > --- Shilpi <omship wrote: > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > I am a learner of Astrology and observing my > > horoscope for quite a long time , but unable to > > understand the games playing by the Planets. > > > > My date of birth is 13.11.1954 lat. 25N 26 and > > long 87E50 , near Malda, India. Time 2.53.12 a.m. > > > > From my young age I was interested in Astrology and > > when I first shown my horoscope to a renowned > > Astrologer of that place, he sketched a beautiful > > portrait about my life. Thereafter I have shown my > > chart to a number of Astrologers but almost all of > > their Predictions are matching with each other but > > Practically Predictions are not coming true. Then I > > thought there may be something wrong with my time of > > birth (it should not happen, because my father was a > > Doctor) then I went to many good Palmists, they also > > gave many high hopes about life like Astrologers, > > which were again proved wrong. Then I searched and > > come across few good saints who are really not > > after money and they are known for successful > > predictions, they also predicted by seeing my face > > to the Tune of Astrologers and Palmists and needless > > to say they also failed miserably. > > > > I meet all of those respected saints, astrologers > > and palmists in various cities in India and how come > > their Predictions are matching each others but not > > materializing in life ? > > > > Some of them said I would own Aero Plane, some > > said I will produce Film/ mega TV Serial, purchase > > costly bungalows and many more dreams. (I FEEL SHY > > TO WRITE THIS). > > > > However, I had no such dream in mind and always > > wanted to lead a simple and happy life. Why all > > this sadhus, astrologers and palmists showed > > dreams? Are they not guilty? > > > > My question is why Such things are happening? Is > > there any power who is obstructing and if so can > > that power over-rule the planets? > > > > > > > > Now let me brief the chart. Asc. Virgo and Asc. Lord > > associated with exalted Saturn in libra and Sun > > (Neechbhanga), Venus® in 3rd house. Rahu in 4th > > house (Neechbhanga) exalted Mars in 5th house, Moon > > in 9th house Mooltrikona, Ketu in 10th house and > > Jupiter in 11th house and again exalted. > > > > At present I am running Saturn Mahadasha with Venus > > antardasha who are 5th and 9th lord and also the > > friend of Ascendent lord. Saturn is aspecting to the > > 11th house cancer and in transit also Saturn is > > aspecting to cancer but I am financially in a deep > > crisis, as for the last 10 month I had no source of > > income and simply finishing the resources which may > > help me hardly for next 2 to 3 months. > > > > I had observed similar situation number of times in > > last 25 years. If I get some work and earn some good > > amount at a time I will not get work for a long > > time. > > > > The time span of locking lasts, according to my > > observation, FROM SIX MONTHS TO 18 MONTHS. > > > > During my locking period I have tried a number of > > time to achieve goals, but all the time lost my > > confidence and when seats back with full of > > frustration, the grace would come forward. > > > > This is the regular game someone is playing with me. > > > > If the life is full with so much of hurdles, then > > what are the influence and results of having so many > > exalted planets? I have passed full mahadasha of > > exalted Jupiter and passed many years of exalted > > Saturn (in highest digree). > > > > I am looking for your advise :- > > > > 1. How long I have to face the difficulties > > > > about money matters, because I am the only earning > > member in the family ? > > > > 2. About my spiritual development. Up to what > > extent I could achieve the spiritual goal AND WHEN? > > > > Regards- > > > > Bimal > > > > > > > > > Send FREE video emails in Mail! > http://promo./videomail/ > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2002 Report Share Posted January 23, 2002 Dear Taurn, I have Jupiter in the 7th AND it is in full aspect to the lord of the 7th which falls in the 1st. I do not keep god statues or photos. In fact, I never have. I don't know why, but I have a sense that it limits. I do like some of the more ancient images of goddess, and a friend gave me a Ganesha. I am only attracted to Ganesh if his rat is very obvious in the form. I have not avoided these images because someone told me not to have them, I am simply not attracted to them. BTW I have a very peaceful and calm home. Once again, when we assume that a rule applies to all it only stirs the pot and the exception quickly rises to the surface. I will ask you, why do you suppose these rules are true? What would be the harm for me to have god images? Why would Jupiter the god of abundance aspecting the lord of the 7th be so destructive? Could he not just as easily give abundance of kindness, generosity and goodwill? Must it be that he give avarice or unrest? I'm seeking assistance in why you are so clear that this is true when I experience it so differently? sincerely cynthia Dear Bimal Note that you have exalted Saturn and having 10th aspect on Jupiter the lord of seventh house. No religious Activities for you. And one more precaution it has been observed those who have Jupiter in seventh house or aspect on seventh lord or have aspect on seventh house they should not keep any temple or any God statue or photos. So kindly avoid it (Please note I don't want to hurt any sentiments but this is fact which I have learnt from my experience and if any one who are having this combination will always have some kind of disturbance in there home.) You can reach God by detach Karma and the path of meditation only this root will only help. Never any yagya or rituals etc. The reason that no one is able to predict is that your aura is very strong and no one can penetrate your aura. And you don't go by surrender form if you always go to check the astrologer you won't get any thing in return he will never able to predict properly. And you know that in your chart you don't have any aspect on lagan, lagan lord or on moon that is why you are not able to get the Guru Kirpa (blessings) those only who have aspect of Jupiter on Ascendant, Ascendant Lord on moon or Moon connected to ninth house. But right now you will get the correct guidance as your Jupiter is transiting from 10th house and aspects the lord of first house. You can put saffron Tilak on your forehead it will open your third eye which will give you intuition and right knowledge this will able to clear your path and avoid your temptation towards self gratification of material world. And if you could do that might be that you would reach near to your self and reaching your soul is reaching the God as it said that soul is always connected to God but we cannot listen the voice of soul because our mind, our ego and the material world (Maya) Note those who are having earthy sign are more prone to Maya Net but they could break that spell by detach Karma only. You have asked when will my financial position will improve. You can observe those who are more near to God or there soul they have a kind of combination where they will have to face much financial crises. You can take the example of Shiva he is always blessed with himself always meditating but he lives a life of a beggar. He can give any boon to any person but he is contented with him self. You have a power that you can help any one who is suffering with any pain or sorrow you have the power but you don't use that because you think what will I get in return. And if you could help some one without any self-interest. You will find that all your needs have been fulfilled and now don't say that your needs are not full filled it is also indicating that you have all the material things which a persons require a good home, nice car and good Job. But you don't have any bank balance and that you will have never. Until you help other people without any self motive. Secondly you asked about the spiritual development. Up to what extent I could achieve the spiritual goal and when. Don't try to measure that what extent you have reached because you cannot measure the ocean and you never know in water where you are, in bottom or at shore but always try to swim and one day you will find that ocean and you are one there will be no two persons you both will become one. And if you try to measure you are on wrong track you are on a track of Maya. Your date of birth is 13 which is a number of Rahu the planet of materialism and worldly comforts and your moon sign is Taurus which is a earthy sign, your ascendant is Virgo which is also earthy sign only your sun (the soul) is placed in Libra which is a air sign the sign of balance. The conclusion is that you always have an inner conflict between your souls and your mind. You can say that you have done many divine activities in your past life but due to some wrong deeds you have got these combination so that you could always have inner conflict and if you could start doing only karma and leave the fruits to God you will be librated this is the only path for you I wish you all the best from me May God help you to reach God. Tarun Chopra On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 John Rasonabe wrote : > Bimal, > > You are undergoing Sade Sati which traditionally give > difficulties for everyone. Also, your Saturn is > rather weak because of its closeness to the Sun. > > You should either ask a pandit to perform yagyas to > mitigate the effects of Saturn, or wear a blue > sapphire ring to strengthen your Saturn. > > Regards, > > John R. > > > > --- Shilpi <omship wrote: > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > I am a learner of Astrology and observing my > > horoscope for quite a long time , but unable to > > understand the games playing by the Planets. > > > > My date of birth is 13.11.1954 lat. 25N 26 and > > long 87E50 , near Malda, India. Time 2.53.12 a.m. > > > > From my young age I was interested in Astrology and > > when I first shown my horoscope to a renowned > > Astrologer of that place, he sketched a beautiful > > portrait about my life. Thereafter I have shown my > > chart to a number of Astrologers but almost all of > > their Predictions are matching with each other but > > Practically Predictions are not coming true. Then I > > thought there may be something wrong with my time of > > birth (it should not happen, because my father was a > > Doctor) then I went to many good Palmists, they also > > gave many high hopes about life like Astrologers, > > which were again proved wrong. Then I searched and > > come across few good saints who are really not > > after money and they are known for successful > > predictions, they also predicted by seeing my face > > to the Tune of Astrologers and Palmists and needless > > to say they also failed miserably. > > > > I meet all of those respected saints, astrologers > > and palmists in various cities in India and how come > > their Predictions are matching each others but not > > materializing in life ? > > > > Some of them said I would own Aero Plane, some > > said I will produce Film/ mega TV Serial, purchase > > costly bungalows and many more dreams. (I FEEL SHY > > TO WRITE THIS). > > > > However, I had no such dream in mind and always > > wanted to lead a simple and happy life. Why all > > this sadhus, astrologers and palmists showed > > dreams? Are they not guilty? > > > > My question is why Such things are happening? Is > > there any power who is obstructing and if so can > > that power over-rule the planets? > > > > > > > > Now let me brief the chart. Asc. Virgo and Asc. Lord > > associated with exalted Saturn in libra and Sun > > (Neechbhanga), Venus® in 3rd house. Rahu in 4th > > house (Neechbhanga) exalted Mars in 5th house, Moon > > in 9th house Mooltrikona, Ketu in 10th house and > > Jupiter in 11th house and again exalted. > > > > At present I am running Saturn Mahadasha with Venus > > antardasha who are 5th and 9th lord and also the > > friend of Ascendent lord. Saturn is aspecting to the > > 11th house cancer and in transit also Saturn is > > aspecting to cancer but I am financially in a deep > > crisis, as for the last 10 month I had no source of > > income and simply finishing the resources which may > > help me hardly for next 2 to 3 months. > > > > I had observed similar situation number of times in > > last 25 years. If I get some work and earn some good > > amount at a time I will not get work for a long > > time. > > > > The time span of locking lasts, according to my > > observation, FROM SIX MONTHS TO 18 MONTHS. > > > > During my locking period I have tried a number of > > time to achieve goals, but all the time lost my > > confidence and when seats back with full of > > frustration, the grace would come forward. > > > > This is the regular game someone is playing with me. > > > > If the life is full with so much of hurdles, then > > what are the influence and results of having so many > > exalted planets? I have passed full mahadasha of > > exalted Jupiter and passed many years of exalted > > Saturn (in highest digree). > > > > I am looking for your advise :- > > > > 1. How long I have to face the difficulties > > > > about money matters, because I am the only earning > > member in the family ? > > > > 2. About my spiritual development. Up to what > > extent I could achieve the spiritual goal AND WHEN? > > > > Regards- > > > > Bimal > > > > > > > > > Send FREE video emails in Mail! > http://promo./videomail/ > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat : gjlist- Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2002 Report Share Posted January 23, 2002 Dear Bimal, I am sorry to note your state of affairs. Most astrologers seem to have ignored the ucchabhanga of Jupiter in your chart, which may not be due to any defect/ignorance on their part. Saturn has a tendency to blind everyone. Ucchabhanga occurs when one exalted planet aspects another. Here Saturn is aspecting Jupiter. Moreover, he is in the 2nd house and is aspecting the 11th house. Though exalted, he is combust. He is also the 6th lord and dispositor of the 8th Lord Mars. 8th Lord Mars too is aspecting the 11th house. All these are afflictions to your income potential. The past couple of years would have been bad due to the Saturn's transit. When Saturn moves away from Taurus along with Jupiter's entry into Cancer, there may be some relief. Placating Saturn is the key to redemption in your life. Chant/listen to Vishnu Sahasranamam every saturday. Also, serving old people and getting their blessings will benefit you greatly. Check out an old age home and volunteer there. May Lord Shiva guide you... Loving regards, Arun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2002 Report Share Posted January 23, 2002 Dear Deepak, Yes! I agree with you. This native should never wear a sapphire!! Exalted Saturn has 6th as his strongest (moolatrikona) house...his conjunction with lagnesh Mercury will bring a lot of obstacles/struggles throughout life. Both Sun and Saturn are dusthana lords, so less harmful to each other in this regard, but Sun (self) is debilitated and Mercury (self) is greatly afflicted by this strong dusthana influence. No matter how much potential is offered in a chart it will come to nought if lagna is severely afflicted...what needs to be strengthened is Mercury! I think Bimal said that Jupiter dasa was promised (by pundits) to be fruitful. The fact is that any planet in the house for which it's karaka loses a lot of it's potential. But, as I'm sure the pundits noticed, Jupiter's exalted position will override that. So certainly they could have, understandably, predicted Jupiter dasa to be fruitful. But what of the aspect from exalted 8th lord Mars and 6th lord Saturn? Could a renowned astrologer (as Bimal said) have failed to observe the negative effect this would have on his fortunes? Perhaps they assumed the aspect from Mars would make him wealthy via unearned income etc., but there is obstruction to this from the 2nd house. I think the greatest obstruction to finances and smooth flowing career is the affliction of 1/10 lord Mercury. Even the best astrologers make mistakes, just as the best doctors make mistakes (all the time). Bearing this in mind a native should not take any reading as "gospel". He should instead use the knowledge gained from various readings to further his own understanding of jyotish. Often we learn more from a bad reading than we do from a good one. I've had several distinguished pundits misinterpret my 8th house in particular...they still have my greatest respect for their vast ocean of knowledge, as well as my gratitude for forcing me to look ever deeper into my own chart. Best Wishes,Wendy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Wendy Vasicek: Vedic Astrologerhttp://www.members.tripod.com/ganesh_astro/JyotishVidyawenvas (AT) dingoblue (DOT) net.au~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dear Bimal!This is a slightly complex horoscope.The Planetary positions are-Planet Long Nakshatra Pad-Sun 206.74 Visakha (Jup) 3 Merc 187.78 Svati (Rah) 1 Venu®210.64 Visakha (Jup) 4 Mars 291.73 Sravana (Mon) 4 Jupt 96.67 Pushya (Sat) 2 Satn 199.81 Svati (Rah) 4 Moon 59.04 Mrigasiras(Mar) 2 Rahu 254.79 Purvasada (Ven) 1 Ketu 74.79 Ardra (Rah) 3 -Before we say anything lets analyse a bit.Moon in Taurus at 29D 2M in its Moolatrikona place and is weak.(Note: From 3D-30D of Taurus, moon is in Moolatrikona and not inExaltation).Jupiter is 6D, just passed its deepest exaltation.Saturn is 19D, moving towards deepest exaltation.Sun is 26D, moving away from deepest debilitation.Mars is 21D, moving towards deepest exaltion.Looking at the Shadbala's:Sun- 111%Moon- 89.2%Mars- 119.1%Merc- 105.0%Jup- 124.7%Venus- 136.7%Saturn- 138.5%As seen from above Venus and Saturn are very strong planets,followed by Jupiter, Mars, Sun, Merc and Moon.The Points to note is Lagna Lord Merc. is weak.It is assoc. with 5th and 6th Lord Saturn and 12th lord Sun.Now Look at the Shadbala of the houses:1-8.712-93-7.334-8.955-9.146-8.097-9.788-7.329-8.6410-8.1411-5.4712-6.04If we look at the Dasa pattern of Bimal, his life started with the Dasa of Mars (His Moon is in Mrigasira Nakshatra). The second dasa was of Rahu, followed by Jupiter and now it is of Saturn.Now these dasa's are long. Like Rahu is of 18 years, Jupiter of 16 years and Saturn now which is of 19 years. Coming to Bimal's Question:How long I have to face the difficulties about money matters, because I am the only earning member in the family ? Well, If you look at ur second house, it has some major afflications.Saturn thou exalted also rules the 6th house, which is a house of Debt. Still it is in conjunction with Merc (even thou it is not that close). So benefic qualities are there because of the comb. of 10th,LL Merc with Saturn.Now what spoils it is Sun who is in Neecha and also the 12th lord.Since Sun is moving away from Debilitation, from Saturn its somewhat medium in Strength(Also getting a NeechaBhanga with Saturn).But as Sun gets strength it is depleting the wealth(signified by 2nd house). The good thing is Venus is in the 3rd house which somehows just let the things pass getting help from jupiter. So God takes care of you even in the worst situation (he gives min. wealth to survive).But this Dasa won't be good in terms of finance and family matters.he is running Saturn-Venus.This dasa needs a lot of home work to be done before coming to conclusion.Since Saturn and Venus are both most powerful planets in the horoscope. And both are afflicted in similiar ways Like Saturn/Sun/Merc in the house of Venus And 12th from Venus.Acc. to Jataka Chandrika, shloka 40, If both the Saturn and Venus are strong the native will have worst results in life. Its like the reversal of Fortune. Even thou they may promise the best in the native's life. Also, Saturn and Sun have a 2-12 relationship.Apart from that Bimal is running under Sade-Sati.Look at the 11th house of gains, even thou Jupiter is there it doesn't help in the house where it is posited. It improves the houses it aspects and its not good in the 11th house.Also, in Shadbala your 11th is weak even thou u get more points in AstakaVarga.It doesn't help for Jupiter is exalted in the 11th aspected by 8th Lord Mars and 6th lord Saturn.Also, Saturn-Sun is coming down the line.I would advice you to do Surya Namaskar. Dont wear a Sapphire ever.But in Saturn's dasa you can give black coloured stuff in charity to poor like Black Urd daal, Mustard oil, etc.Jupiter moving into 11th house from Lagna after July should give some relief.I shall answer more later after getting the views of others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2002 Report Share Posted January 24, 2002 Dear Tarun, I appreciate your prediction upto some extent not wholehartedly. 1. My humble and limited knowledge has seen that our country has produced lot of famous/un-faimed saints in India, from time eternal and many of them are having exalted Saturn in their chart. In fact exalted Saturn only takes someone to the highest path of self-realization, where Jupiter can't reach. More over, when exalted Jupiter is being aspected by Saturn, how one can stop himself or keep away himself performing religious activities ? Such combination comes once in a Century. Does it means that those pioneer saints should have not gone for enlightment? 2. Let me tell you about my past. Duding my rahu mahadasha I was a nastika (not beleaving in god) when time changed Jupiter mahadasha came in , I started beleaving in god and started perfoming rituals, visiting holly places etc. During my Saturn mahadasha I have gone further ahead. This, I am telling from own experiance although it matches with the Dasha influence. That means, planets are influencing to do so and changing mind according to their dasha. Is it possible to stop religious Activities for me? 3. Regarding detachment in Karma , I must say that I HAVE HARDLY WORKED FOR 5YEARS IN LAST 25 YEARS,for material achievement and no Karma for balance 20years. This way I am detached with karma. 4. I have a shiva temple in my home and we consider him as our family member so as long as I take breath I have to consider him as our family member. 5. My purpose of taking berth will be success, if I get Guru Kripa. 6. Please elaborate about puting saffron Tilak on forehead . 7. Beleave me , throughout my life I am constantly trying to help people without expecting anything in return and during my very very bad phase of life also I have not taken a single peny in return. Some time I have seen many people have been benifited and I myself wondered how it was happened? Some time whatever I say, it comes true. So it gives me pain to read ''Until you help other people without any self motive''. 8. Regardind falling in the net of maya, I must say no one in this universe is out of maya net. That's why you we hear Lord Vishnu was covered by 'yoga maya' and every body knows what happened to Lord Shiva when his maya 'SATI' left the body. Once maya left Brahmma, the creator too. With your all explanation still question renains in my mind: WHY I AM PUNISHED? - tarun chopra <astrotarun <gjlist> Thursday, January 24, 2002 12:57 AM Re: Re: [GJ] WHY I AM PUNISHED Dear Bimal Note that you have exalted Saturn and having 10th aspect on Jupiter the lord of seventh house. No religious Activities for you. And one more precaution it has been observed those who have Jupiter in seventh house or aspect on seventh lord or have aspect on seventh house they should not keep any temple or any God statue or photos. So kindly avoid it (Please note I don't want to hurt any sentiments but this is fact which I have learnt from my experience and if any one who are having this combination will always have some kind of disturbance in there home.) You can reach God by detach Karma and the path of meditation only this root will only help. Never any yagya or rituals etc. The reason that no one is able to predict is that your aura is very strong and no one can penetrate your aura. And you don't go by surrender form if you always go to check the astrologer you won't get any thing in return he will never able to predict properly. And you know that in your chart you don't have any aspect on lagan, lagan lord or on moon that is why you are not able to get the Guru Kirpa (blessings) those only who have aspect of Jupiter on Ascendant, Ascendant Lord on moon or Moon connected to ninth house. But right now you will get the correct guidance as your Jupiter is transiting from 10th house and aspects the lord of first house. You can put saffron Tilak on your forehead it will open your third eye which will give you intuition and right knowledge this will able to clear your path and avoid your temptation towards self gratification of material world. And if you could do that might be that you would reach near to your self and reaching your soul is reaching the God as it said that soul is always connected to God but we cannot listen the voice of soul because our mind, our ego and the material world (Maya) Note those who are having earthy sign are more prone to Maya Net but they could break that spell by detach Karma only. You have asked when will my financial position will improve. You can observe those who are more near to God or there soul they have a kind of combination where they will have to face much financial crises. You can take the example of Shiva he is always blessed with himself always meditating but he lives a life of a beggar. He can give any boon to any person but he is contented with him self. You have a power that you can help any one who is suffering with any pain or sorrow you have the power but you don't use that because you think what will I get in return. And if you could help some one without any self-interest. You will find that all your needs have been fulfilled and now don't say that your needs are not full filled it is also indicating that you have all the material things which a persons require a good home, nice car and good Job. But you don't have any bank balance and that you will have never. Until you help other people without any self motive. Secondly you asked about the spiritual development. Up to what extent I could achieve the spiritual goal and when. Don't try to measure that what extent you have reached because you cannot measure the ocean and you never know in water where you are, in bottom or at shore but always try to swim and one day you will find that ocean and you are one there will be no two persons you both will become one. And if you try to measure you are on wrong track you are on a track of Maya. Your date of birth is 13 which is a number of Rahu the planet of materialism and worldly comforts and your moon sign is Taurus which is a earthy sign, your ascendant is Virgo which is also earthy sign only your sun (the soul) is placed in Libra which is a air sign the sign of balance. The conclusion is that you always have an inner conflict between your souls and your mind. You can say that you have done many divine activities in your past life but due to some wrong deeds you have got these combination so that you could always have inner conflict and if you could start doing only karma and leave the fruits to God you will be librated this is the only path for you I wish you all the best from me May God help you to reach God. Tarun Chopra On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 John Rasonabe wrote : > Bimal, > > You are undergoing Sade Sati which traditionally give > difficulties for everyone. Also, your Saturn is > rather weak because of its closeness to the Sun. > > You should either ask a pandit to perform yagyas to > mitigate the effects of Saturn, or wear a blue > sapphire ring to strengthen your Saturn. > > Regards, > > John R. > > > > --- Shilpi <omship wrote: > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > I am a learner of Astrology and observing my > > horoscope for quite a long time , but unable to > > understand the games playing by the Planets. > > > > My date of birth is 13.11.1954 lat. 25N 26 and > > long 87E50 , near Malda, India. Time 2.53.12 a.m. > > > > From my young age I was interested in Astrology and > > when I first shown my horoscope to a renowned > > Astrologer of that place, he sketched a beautiful > > portrait about my life. Thereafter I have shown my > > chart to a number of Astrologers but almost all of > > their Predictions are matching with each other but > > Practically Predictions are not coming true. Then I > > thought there may be something wrong with my time of > > birth (it should not happen, because my father was a > > Doctor) then I went to many good Palmists, they also > > gave many high hopes about life like Astrologers, > > which were again proved wrong. Then I searched and > > come across few good saints who are really not > > after money and they are known for successful > > predictions, they also predicted by seeing my face > > to the Tune of Astrologers and Palmists and needless > > to say they also failed miserably. > > > > I meet all of those respected saints, astrologers > > and palmists in various cities in India and how come > > their Predictions are matching each others but not > > materializing in life ? > > > > Some of them said I would own Aero Plane, some > > said I will produce Film/ mega TV Serial, purchase > > costly bungalows and many more dreams. (I FEEL SHY > > TO WRITE THIS). > > > > However, I had no such dream in mind and always > > wanted to lead a simple and happy life. Why all > > this sadhus, astrologers and palmists showed > > dreams? Are they not guilty? > > > > My question is why Such things are happening? Is > > there any power who is obstructing and if so can > > that power over-rule the planets? > > > > > > > > Now let me brief the chart. Asc. Virgo and Asc. Lord > > associated with exalted Saturn in libra and Sun > > (Neechbhanga), Venus® in 3rd house. Rahu in 4th > > house (Neechbhanga) exalted Mars in 5th house, Moon > > in 9th house Mooltrikona, Ketu in 10th house and > > Jupiter in 11th house and again exalted. > > > > At present I am running Saturn Mahadasha with Venus > > antardasha who are 5th and 9th lord and also the > > friend of Ascendent lord. Saturn is aspecting to the > > 11th house cancer and in transit also Saturn is > > aspecting to cancer but I am financially in a deep > > crisis, as for the last 10 month I had no source of > > income and simply finishing the resources which may > > help me hardly for next 2 to 3 months. > > > > I had observed similar situation number of times in > > last 25 years. If I get some work and earn some good > > amount at a time I will not get work for a long > > time. > > > > The time span of locking lasts, according to my > > observation, FROM SIX MONTHS TO 18 MONTHS. > > > > During my locking period I have tried a number of > > time to achieve goals, but all the time lost my > > confidence and when seats back with full of > > frustration, the grace would come forward. > > > > This is the regular game someone is playing with me. > > > > If the life is full with so much of hurdles, then > > what are the influence and results of having so many > > exalted planets? I have passed full mahadasha of > > exalted Jupiter and passed many years of exalted > > Saturn (in highest digree). > > > > I am looking for your advise :- > > > > 1. How long I have to face the difficulties > > > > about money matters, because I am the only earning > > member in the family ? > > > > 2. About my spiritual development. Up to what > > extent I could achieve the spiritual goal AND WHEN? > > > > Regards- > > > > Bimal > > > > > > > > > Send FREE video emails in Mail! > http://promo./videomail/ > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat : gjlist- Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2002 Report Share Posted January 24, 2002 Dear Mr. John, Thanks for your valuable suggestion. However, this is my 2nd round of Sade Sati and I understand that 2nd round is not harmful, rather 1st and 3rd round gives bad result. In the house, where Moon is exalted, Sade Sati does not produce evil effect. Apart from that, Saturn is it's highest exalted point and sun in Libra is caused Neech bhanga yoga. Which suppose to cancel the evil effect. In Navamsha, Jupiter and Saturn aspecting each other and Saturn is in 11 th House, where he produces Excellent result. Last several years I performed many poojas and yagyas and therefore my question still remains : WHY I AM PUNISHED ? - John Rasonabe <jr_esq <gjlist> Wednesday, January 23, 2002 10:45 PM Re: [GJ] WHY I AM PUNISHED > Bimal, > > You are undergoing Sade Sati which traditionally give > difficulties for everyone. Also, your Saturn is > rather weak because of its closeness to the Sun. > > You should either ask a pandit to perform yagyas to > mitigate the effects of Saturn, or wear a blue > sapphire ring to strengthen your Saturn. > > Regards, > > John R. > > > > --- Shilpi <omship wrote: > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > I am a learner of Astrology and observing my > > horoscope for quite a long time , but unable to > > understand the games playing by the Planets. > > > > My date of birth is 13.11.1954 lat. 25N 26 and > > long 87E50 , near Malda, India. Time 2.53.12 a.m. > > > > From my young age I was interested in Astrology and > > when I first shown my horoscope to a renowned > > Astrologer of that place, he sketched a beautiful > > portrait about my life. Thereafter I have shown my > > chart to a number of Astrologers but almost all of > > their Predictions are matching with each other but > > Practically Predictions are not coming true. Then I > > thought there may be something wrong with my time of > > birth (it should not happen, because my father was a > > Doctor) then I went to many good Palmists, they also > > gave many high hopes about life like Astrologers, > > which were again proved wrong. Then I searched and > > come across few good saints who are really not > > after money and they are known for successful > > predictions, they also predicted by seeing my face > > to the Tune of Astrologers and Palmists and needless > > to say they also failed miserably. > > > > I meet all of those respected saints, astrologers > > and palmists in various cities in India and how come > > their Predictions are matching each others but not > > materializing in life ? > > > > Some of them said I would own Aero Plane, some > > said I will produce Film/ mega TV Serial, purchase > > costly bungalows and many more dreams. (I FEEL SHY > > TO WRITE THIS). > > > > However, I had no such dream in mind and always > > wanted to lead a simple and happy life. Why all > > this sadhus, astrologers and palmists showed > > dreams? Are they not guilty? > > > > My question is why Such things are happening? Is > > there any power who is obstructing and if so can > > that power over-rule the planets? > > > > > > > > Now let me brief the chart. Asc. Virgo and Asc. Lord > > associated with exalted Saturn in libra and Sun > > (Neechbhanga), Venus® in 3rd house. Rahu in 4th > > house (Neechbhanga) exalted Mars in 5th house, Moon > > in 9th house Mooltrikona, Ketu in 10th house and > > Jupiter in 11th house and again exalted. > > > > At present I am running Saturn Mahadasha with Venus > > antardasha who are 5th and 9th lord and also the > > friend of Ascendent lord. Saturn is aspecting to the > > 11th house cancer and in transit also Saturn is > > aspecting to cancer but I am financially in a deep > > crisis, as for the last 10 month I had no source of > > income and simply finishing the resources which may > > help me hardly for next 2 to 3 months. > > > > I had observed similar situation number of times in > > last 25 years. If I get some work and earn some good > > amount at a time I will not get work for a long > > time. > > > > The time span of locking lasts, according to my > > observation, FROM SIX MONTHS TO 18 MONTHS. > > > > During my locking period I have tried a number of > > time to achieve goals, but all the time lost my > > confidence and when seats back with full of > > frustration, the grace would come forward. > > > > This is the regular game someone is playing with me. > > > > If the life is full with so much of hurdles, then > > what are the influence and results of having so many > > exalted planets? I have passed full mahadasha of > > exalted Jupiter and passed many years of exalted > > Saturn (in highest digree). > > > > I am looking for your advise :- > > > > 1. How long I have to face the difficulties > > > > about money matters, because I am the only earning > > member in the family ? > > > > 2. About my spiritual development. Up to what > > extent I could achieve the spiritual goal AND WHEN? > > > > Regards- > > > > Bimal > > > > > > > > > Send FREE video emails in Mail! > http://promo./videomail/ > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2002 Report Share Posted January 24, 2002 DEAR BIMAL, You wrote, "Now let me brief the chart. Asc. Virgo and Asc. Lord associated with exalted Saturn in libra and Sun (Neechbhanga), Venus® in 3rd house. Rahu in 4th house (Neechbhanga) exalted Mars in 5th house, Moon in 9th house Mooltrikona, Ketu in 10th house and Jupiter in 11th house and again exalted. " Sun gets no neechbhangha, as Saturn which can cause this neech bhangha is combust and Mars is not in Ascendant Kendra. Rahu is no planet and need not be considered as neech or in fall though many consider him so and will agree to your understanding. But as a shadow planet ,it will give the results of those planets, 1. Planets joining him. 2.Planets aspecting to him. 3. Planets in whose constellation he is.(Constellation lordship as per Vishmotary) 4.Planets in whose sign he is. The results will be shown in decreasing order. So Rahu is aspected by combust Saturn. As such Rahu is strongest shadow of Saturn. Rahu is in the constellation of Venus. Rahu is in the sign of Jupiter. So in decreasing order of strength Rahu will give the results of Saturn.Venus and Jupiter. The matter you are discussing two things are important to you ; 1st is your 2nd house 2nd is your 10th. Mercury Saturn and Sun are occupant and this is degreevise position. Saturn is combust by Sun . It is as a portfolio has been taken over by the Prime Minister. And that prime minister represents 12th house . That is he cares about your expenses and is also a significator of ego. By KP Saturn is also your Ascendant sublord and is having a key role in your personality development as well as shaping the whole chart. Its combustion has spoil the chart. It shows a person doing all the mathematics/ planning (mercury before it) but could not apply that due to shyness or politeness given by Saturn and overpowered by Ego and daily needs (Sun). Jupiter in the constellation of Combust Saturn and aspected by Mars a malefic shows a mind full of logic but by these logic you are opposing your Jupiter say wisdom. So strength of Mars is never desirable whereas strength of Jupiter being in the Constellation of Saturn is profit of those things which are of no use. It may be money accounts with such persons which could not be realized. And someone told you about your sadesati. This sadesati was good to you till the Saturn was at 0 degree 45 minutes 28 seconds . These are degrees of your Venus in Scorpio. You are bound to get very negative results till Saturn cross your natal Ketu that is Gemini 14 degree and some minutes. Your stars speak that your Rahu Mahadasa was mixed, Jupiter the worst , Saturn mixed and Mercury will be the best Mahadasha. Now by sub periods. Rahu and Venus will be the best sub periods. But as Saturn is attacking your mind completely and Rahu is also helping this Saturn to spoil or disturb your mind you will feel its goodness only after it will pass. As you have a combination of waste representing planets and that waste is in your wealth house , dealing in old and used items or dealing in waste is the most appropriate profession for you. Saturn in the navmasha of Jupiter also confirms this. Ketu in the navmasha of Saturn also says the same. And one is punished for his misdeeds ; if you could not get an astrologer of the kind that could help you is also due to your own deeds. I think it will help you . Inder Jit Sahni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2002 Report Share Posted January 24, 2002 > > Most astrologers seem to have ignored the ucchabhanga of Jupiter in > your chart, which may not be due to any defect/ignorance on their > part. Saturn has a tendency to blind everyone. > > Ucchabhanga occurs when one exalted planet aspects another. Dear Arun Would you tell us more about this? I am one of those '55 folks with several exalted planets. I have had a well known astrologer tell me how easy my life is rather than offer any insight. It is as if many astrologers are blinded by them and cannot see deeper. I have found...felt...that exalted planets are rather passive. Waiting rather than acting and seem to need a push from the universe to get going. I would appreciate any insights you might have on this statement. BTW, I would not return those exalted planets for debilitated ones, even though I've seen debilitation get more or stronger results in the material world. I find it is much easier to be content and appreciate each day that I am blessed to make a living as an astrologer and spiritual confidant and teacher. Astrologers assume that exalted planets are about fame, I find that they are about appreciation...at least after I finished my Rahu MD <big grins>. cynthia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2002 Report Share Posted January 24, 2002 Dear Inderjit i would like to congrats you for your excilent analyis of Bimal chart. best wishes Tarun Chopra On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 Inder Jit Sahni wrote : > DEAR BIMAL, > You wrote, > "Now let me brief the chart. Asc. Virgo and Asc. Lord > associated with exalted Saturn in libra and Sun > (Neechbhanga), Venus® in 3rd house. Rahu in 4th house > (Neechbhanga) exalted Mars in 5th house, Moon in 9th > house Mooltrikona, Ketu in 10th house and Jupiter in > 11th house and again exalted. " > > Sun gets no neechbhangha, as Saturn which can cause > this neech bhangha is combust and Mars is not in > Ascendant Kendra. > > Rahu is no planet and need not be considered as neech > or in fall though many consider him so and will agree > to your understanding. But as a shadow planet ,it will > give the results of those planets, > > 1. Planets joining him. > > 2.Planets aspecting to him. > > 3. Planets in whose constellation he is.(Constellation > lordship as per Vishmotary) > > 4.Planets in whose sign he is. > > The results will be shown in decreasing order. So Rahu > is aspected by combust Saturn. As such Rahu is > strongest shadow of Saturn. > > Rahu is in the constellation of Venus. > > Rahu is in the sign of Jupiter. > > So in decreasing order of strength Rahu will give the > results of Saturn.Venus and Jupiter. > > The matter you are discussing two things are important > to you ; > > 1st is your 2nd house 2nd is your 10th. > > Mercury Saturn and Sun are occupant and this is > degreevise position. > > Saturn is combust by Sun . It is as a portfolio has > been taken over by the Prime Minister. And that prime > minister represents 12th house . That is he cares about > your expenses and is also a significator of ego. By KP > Saturn is also your Ascendant sublord and is having a > key role in your personality development as well as > shaping the whole chart. > > Its combustion has spoil the chart. > > It shows a person doing all the mathematics/ planning > (mercury before it) but could not apply that due to > shyness or politeness given by Saturn and overpowered > by Ego and daily needs (Sun). > > Jupiter in the constellation of Combust Saturn and > aspected by Mars a malefic shows a mind full of logic > but by these logic you are opposing your Jupiter say > wisdom. So strength of Mars is never desirable whereas > strength of Jupiter being in the Constellation of > Saturn is profit of those things which are of no use. > It may be money accounts with such persons which could > not be realized. > > And someone told you about your sadesati. This sadesati > was good to you till the Saturn was at 0 degree 45 > minutes 28 seconds . These are degrees of your Venus in > Scorpio. You are bound to get very negative results > till Saturn cross your natal Ketu that is Gemini 14 > degree and some minutes. > > Your stars speak that your Rahu Mahadasa was mixed, > Jupiter the worst , Saturn mixed and Mercury will be > the best Mahadasha. > > Now by sub periods. Rahu and Venus will be the best sub > periods. But as Saturn is attacking your mind > completely and Rahu is also helping this Saturn to > spoil or disturb your mind you will feel its goodness > only after it will pass. > > As you have a combination of waste representing planets > and that waste is in your wealth house , dealing in old > and used items or dealing in waste is the most > appropriate profession for you. > > Saturn in the navmasha of Jupiter also confirms this. > > Ketu in the navmasha of Saturn also says the same. > > And one is punished for his misdeeds ; if you could not > get an astrologer of the kind that could help you is > also due to your own deeds. > > I think it will help you . > > Inder Jit Sahni > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2002 Report Share Posted January 24, 2002 Cynthia, A couple of years ago, I was grappling with charts of two individuals (born in 1955), who were in dire financial straits. The charts seemed really great with both Saturn and Jupiter exalted. Troubled I started referring to all the astrological books I had and couldn't find any explanation. One day, the book "Catechism of Astrology" by B.V.Raman fell down accidentally. I had not consulted it before. I pick it up and open it and the word "Ucchabhanga" stands out from the opened pages. It is one of those "Synchronicity" situations, I guess. Raman says that people with ucchabhanga have a tendency to head towards bankruptcy, which explanation was useful to me with those charts. I don't have any other experience in using this concept. Regards, Arun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2002 Report Share Posted January 24, 2002 Hi Arun! Can you quote Dr. Raman. from his book in the form of Summary. Thanks for this is a useful information. Deepak gjlist, "Uthayan, Arun" <arun.uthayan@c...> wrote: > > Cynthia, > > A couple of years ago, I was grappling with charts of two individuals (born > in 1955), who were in dire financial straits. The charts seemed really great > with both Saturn and Jupiter exalted. Troubled I started referring to all > the astrological books I had and couldn't find any explanation. One day, the > book "Catechism of Astrology" by B.V.Raman fell down accidentally. I had not > consulted it before. I pick it up and open it and the word "Ucchabhanga" > stands out from the opened pages. It is one of those "Synchronicity" > situations, I guess. Raman says that people with ucchabhanga have a tendency > to head towards bankruptcy, which explanation was useful to me with those > charts. I don't have any other experience in using this concept. > > Regards, > Arun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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