WHY I AM PUNISHED

[Guest guest]

Dear Arild,

As par Hindu predictive astrology the 5th aspect (here Jupiter)

covers 8 degree both side from the orb of real contact, In this case it is not

even 6 degree, as far as aspect to Venus is concern. According to the above,

all aspects are impersonal and the aspects are counted from sign to sign. You

believe it or not as per Vedic system Jupiter has Tripada Drishti or Sextile

Aspect to the ascendent .

Regards

Bimal-------------

Dear Bimal,I'm not saying this approach is the holy grail, but why not consider

it.I personally find it very accurate, compared to the confusion often found

intraditional Jyotish. If you want more info about SA, let me know.Using

System's Approach, you are correct in Jupiter's aspect to Venus by way of a

wide association, but it is right outside the 5 degree orb of realcontact. So

Jupiter's help is minimum, compared to the more serious infancy weaknessin

Venus. The dispositor of Venus, Mars, is well placed and exalted though, but

the3rd is not Mars's Moolatrikona sign, which helps to some extent only,

probably bringing youjob opportunities, but fails to give stability, due to the

weakness of the 2nd lord.In this system, Jupiter aspects the 5th, 7th and 9th

house from his placement,so there is no beneficial aspect to the Lagna,

sorry.Fortunately, the Lagna lord is not seriously afflicted/combust by the

12lord of losses (Sun) andSaturn, the 6th lord of enemies/sickness, as they are

outside the 5 degreeorb of close conjunctionnatally. But again, Mercury is

weakened a bit, due to the weakness of thedispositor, Venus.Take care of your

health, under transit afflictions by Sun, Mars, butespecially by Saturn, the

6th lord,in Sun, Mars and Saturn Bhukti periods respectively.I don't mean to

sound negative, but this is my opinion on your chart,concerning these

matters.Mars Bhukti periods could turn out to be positive for 8th house

matters,like easy gainsand maritial tie, given his strength.The SATVA

Groups forum contain more info about SA, propounded byProfessor V.K.

Choudhry.Best Regards,ArildP.S. I'm a fellow Virgo

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr. John,

Thanks for your valuable suggestion. However, this is my 2nd round of Sade

Sati and I understand that 2nd round is not harmful, rather 1st and 3rd

round gives bad result. In the house, where Moon is exalted , Sade Sati

does not produce evil effect. Apart from that, saturn is it's highest

exalted point and sun in libra is caused Neech bhanga yoga. Which suppose to

cancel the evil effect. In Navamsha, Jupiter and Saturn aspecting each other

and Saturn is in 11 th House, where he produces Excellent result.

Last several years I performed many poojas and yagyas and therefore my

question still remains : WHY I AM PUNISHED ?

 

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John Rasonabe <jr_esq

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Wednesday, January 23, 2002 10:45 PM

Re: [GJ] WHY I AM PUNISHED

 

 

> Bimal,

>

> You are undergoing Sade Sati which traditionally give

> difficulties for everyone. Also, your Saturn is

> rather weak because of its closeness to the Sun.

>

> You should either ask a pandit to perform yagyas to

> mitigate the effects of Saturn, or wear a blue

> sapphire ring to strengthen your Saturn.

>

> Regards,

>

> John R.

[Guest guest]

Dear Bimal,

It seems to me that no answer is ever going to truly satisfy you. Many jyotisha

have given straightforward answers as to why your dasas have not been fruitful.

 

In your reply to Deepak you said:

>>You said Jupiter was negative and Inder Jit also said the same whereas I hada

miraculous experience as soon as Jupiter Mahadasha started.<<

 

Yet in an earlier post you'd said:

>>Moreover it is not the matter of a particuler Dasha andBhukti when I am

suffering, I am concerned about my last 25 years happening.You will appreciate

that I passed many Dashas / Bhuktis but how and why allthe Dashas / Bhuktis

gives me the similar results, that is obstructions inevery steps in my life.<<

 

An unfruitful dasa brings discontent and leads the native to ask such questions

as "Why I am Punished".

Looking at the dasa periods one-by-one, starting with Rahu, it's not difficult

to see the obstructions you've faced. First Rahu in 4th is aspected by Saturn,

a dire malefic in your chart as the 6th is his strongest (moolatrikona) house.

To look at this dasa in straightforward (logical) terms we can say that 4th

house is afflicted by both Rahu and Saturn. The 4th shows our living place

(home, home-comforts, contentment etc). I think all astrologers will agree that

Rahu in 4th brings changes in relation to our home-life. The aspect of Saturn is

significant as 6th lord brings obstacles...obstacles to your home-contentment

and stability! Saturn is an Airy sign...air moves, travels around...hard to

contain air in one space. Combine that with the effect of Rahu in 4th and...

 

This is exactly in accord with what you said to Turan:

>>You said I had a positive time during Rahu Dasha and Inder Jit said thatRahu

Mahadasa was mixed. My feeling Rahu mahadasha was not at all good,because I

left home at the age of 16 years (being the only son of my fatherand without

any dispute with family) and roamed one place to another untilJupiter Mahadasha

starts.<<

 

Naturally the dasa of divine planet Jupiter turned your attention towards the

divine...what else would one predict with Jupiter's dispositor Moon exalted in

the 9th whilst (Moon's) star lord is exalted in 5th house of spiritual

practices, mantras etc.

This relationship between Moon and Mars is strengthened by the exchange of their star lords.

However the fruition of exalted 4th lord Jupiter in 11th house of gains is

thwarted by the aspect of dire functional/natural malefics Mars and Saturn who

are also exalted.

 

We can search the classics for slokas to cancel this or cancel that till the

cows come home, but the basic afflictions of the horoscope will not

change...the last 25 yrs of your life (in your own words) is proof of that.

 

I said in an earlier post that lagnesh Mercury was severely afflicted in 2nd

house. Mercury is the planet of logic, reasoning etc., I repeat what I said at

the beginning of this mail

"No answer is ever going to truly satisfy you"

Afflicted Mercury will keep looking for answers even after they've been given.

As well as being lord of your ascendant Mercury is the owner and karaka for

10th house...the affliction from Saturn and Sun will bring setbacks, losses,

blocks, disappointments and hard times in relation to your occupation, career

and living standards.

 

Best Wishes,Wendy

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Wendy Vasicek: Vedic

Astrologerhttp://www.members.tripod.com/ganesh_astro/JyotishVidyawenvas (AT) dingoblue (DOT) net.au~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Shilpi

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Cc: cupofmagic

Friday, January 25, 2002 1:48 PM

Re: [GJ] Re: WHY I AM PUNISHED

Dear Sir, I have received your un-named mail and your valuable

commentsare appreciating.You have correctly written that ''God takes care of

you even in the worstsituation; he gives min wealth to survive.'' Until now

this has happened anumber of times in my life, which I had already expressed in

my first mail.When Saturn being 6th Lord will cause debt, hopefully he will rise

theresult of 5th Bhava too. Isn't it?I will do Surya Namaskar as recommended by

you.Jataka Chandrika is correct. When Saturn and Venus both are equally

powerfulit cause disaster in the person and to his family.According to my

calculation Venus is having Sad Bala of 122% and Saturn 140%and in vimshopak

Venus 54% and Saturn 83%,so both are not equally powerful.Thanks God. So during

Saturn / Venus Bhukti whatshould I expect? Moreover it is not the matter of a

particuler Dasha andBhukti when I am suffering, I am concerned about my last 25

years happening.You will appreciate that I passed many Dashas / Bhuktis but how

and why allthe Dashas / Bhuktis gives me the similar results, that is

obstructions inevery steps in my life.What will happen to my Spiritual Gain?I

am still searching for a true reply.WHY I AM PUNISHED?Thanks &

Regards,Bimal.-cupofmagic

<cupofmagic ><gjlist>Thursday, January 24,

2002 12:29 AM[GJ] Re: WHY I AM PUNISHED> Dear Bimal!> This is a

slightly complex horoscope.> The Planetary positions are>

-> Planet Long Nakshatra Pad>

-> Sun 206.74 Visakha (Jup) 3> Merc

187.78 Svati (Rah) 1> Venu®210.64 Visakha (Jup) 4> Mars 291.73

Sravana (Mon) 4> Jupt 96.67 Pushya (Sat) 2> Satn 199.81 Svati

(Rah) 4> Moon 59.04 Mrigasiras(Mar) 2> Rahu 254.79 Purvasada (Ven) 1>

Ketu 74.79 Ardra (Rah) 3> ->> Before

we say anything lets analyse a bit.>> Moon in Taurus at 29D 2M in its

Moolatrikona place and is weak.> (Note: From 3D-30D of Taurus, moon is in

Moolatrikona and not in> Exaltation).>> Jupiter is 6D, just passed its deepest

exaltation.> Saturn is 19D, moving towards deepest exaltation.> Sun is 26D,

moving away from deepest debilitation.> Mars is 21D, moving towards deepest

exaltion.>> Looking at the Shadbala's:> Sun- 111%> Moon- 89.2%> Mars- 119.1%>

Merc- 105.0%> Jup- 124.7%> Venus- 136.7%> Saturn- 138.5%>> As seen from above

Venus and Saturn are very strong planets,> followed by Jupiter, Mars, Sun, Merc

and Moon.> The Points to note is Lagna Lord Merc. is weak.> It is assoc. with

5th and 6th Lord Saturn and 12th lord Sun.>> Now Look at the Shadbala of the

houses:> 1-8.71> 2-9> 3-7.33> 4-8.95> 5-9.14> 6-8.09> 7-9.78> 8-7.32> 9-8.64>

10-8.14> 11-5.47> 12-6.04>> If we look at the Dasa pattern of Bimal, his life

started with the> Dasa of Mars (His Moon is in Mrigasira Nakshatra).> The

second dasa was of Rahu, followed by Jupiter and now it is of> Saturn.> Now

these dasa's are long. Like Rahu is of 18 years, Jupiter of 16> years and

Saturn now which is of 19 years.>>> Coming to Bimal's Question:>> How long I

have to face the difficulties about money matters, because> I am the only

earning member in the family ?>> Well, If you look at ur second house, it has

some major afflications.> Saturn thou exalted also rules the 6th house, which

is a house of> Debt. Still it is in conjunction with Merc (even thou it is not

that> close). So benefic qualities are there because of the comb. of> 10th,LL

Merc with Saturn.>> Now what spoils it is Sun who is in Neecha and also the

12th lord.> Since Sun is moving away from Debilitation, from Saturn its

somewhat> medium in Strength(Also getting a NeechaBhanga with Saturn).But as>

Sun gets strength it is depleting the wealth(signified by 2nd house).> The good

thing is Venus is in the 3rd house which somehows just let> the things pass

getting help from jupiter. So God takes care of you> even in the worst

situation (he gives min. wealth to survive).>> But this Dasa won't be good in

terms of finance and family matters.> he is running Saturn-Venus.> This dasa

needs a lot of home work to be done before coming to> conclusion.> Since Saturn

and Venus are both most powerful planets in the> horoscope. And both are

afflicted in similiar ways Like> Saturn/Sun/Merc in the house of Venus And 12th

from Venus.> Acc. to Jataka Chandrika, shloka 40, If both the Saturn and Venus

are> strong the native will have worst results in life. Its like the> reversal

of Fortune. Even thou they may promise the best in the> native's life.> Also,

Saturn and Sun have a 2-12 relationship.> Apart from that Bimal is running

under Sade-Sati.>> Look at the 11th house of gains, even thou Jupiter is there

it> doesn't help in the house where it is posited. It improves the houses> it

aspects and its not good in the 11th house.Also, in Shadbala your> 11th is weak

even thou u get more points in AstakaVarga.It doesn't> help for Jupiter is

exalted in the 11th aspected by 8th Lord Mars and> 6th lord Saturn.>> Also,

Saturn-Sun is coming down the line.> I would advice you to do Surya Namaskar.

Dont wear a Sapphire ever.> But in Saturn's dasa you can give black coloured

stuff in charity to> poor like Black Urd daal, Mustard oil, etc.> Jupiter

moving into 11th house from Lagna after July should give> some relief.>>> I

shall answer more later after getting the views of others.>>>>>> Om Namo

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