Guest guest Posted February 6, 2002 Report Share Posted February 6, 2002 Dear Cynthia you <<Ahh, that makes sense. When we are focused in on the events of others we do not hear what we need to address within ourselves.>> me That is right, we as instruments are just giving what the customer, patient, etc, has to hear. Most of the time corrections to destiny are necessary and therefore we have to focus on more bad than good. Many times we deviate from our track because we think that we know better, when in reality we do not know anything. Because we are prone to make errors, that is why we need a guidance. Unfortunately there are many "Gods" out there doing perfect things and they just require a reading when it is too late. However, the wise goes for a reading to see better the road ahead. you <<I have a deepe sense that what is described as "life review" at the time of death is true. If so, then I would assume that the astrologer who predicts destruction would review the impact of that prediction upon those who took it to heart or believed that the astrologer knew just what was to happen.>> me One of my teachers told me that sometimes we are not told everything but only a part of the jigsaw. But that we could guess the results. you <<Then again, I believe that we are each responsible for our thoughts and that these predictions as they are rendered untrue, may in fact help those who suffere from such anxiety to gain perspective. >> me It is also possible. Because everything has a reason, even when an astrologer or reader is a cheater, i believe that his/her customers are also mislead for a reason. It may not be nice to hear about it but in many cases we cannot do much but wait for the ball to burst. I know the case of a natural healer. He was very good helping others but was too greedy and he used to get mad when he was not making enough (which was too much) money. He let many people down with his selfish attitude and in the end, he lost his healing powers. So, he became a "clairvoyant" charging people a lot. Real clairvoyants told me that he was not a clairvoyant at all but a cheater, some of his customers told me that they were not satisfied with his reading or attitude. He was going down with his business because karma was getting him in the end. He even tried to get me as his personal adviser to become successful but i was off the road. In the end he just burst in anger blaming everybody but himself for his failure and in the process, he let me go free, he cut himself from my karma. It is nice to see when somebody that has a karmic hold of you, cutting or ending off that karma, that karmic payment from the past. At that moment we become free from that entanglement. Sometimes the karmic entanglement is huge and sometimes it is only a question of having a drink with someone. Who knows? We have to pay sooner or later for every karmic debt. That is why remedial measures are important. i have heard that when medicine goes up, karma goes down. But sometimes by destiny, medicine arrives too late or we have to pay without it. Maharaja Pariksit was destined to die from poison. he was a great king. He was at the time the King of Hastinapura, now modern Delhi. At that time, in Vedic times some 5,000 years ago, the king of Hastinapura was by law, the Emperor of the whole earth. Somehow, Maharaja Pariksit was cursed by a Brahmin boy to die in 7 days from poison. The King was powerful enough to cancel that course but he was wise and saw it as a benediction in disguise. Emperor Pariksit immediately went to the banks of the river Ganges to ask the local yogis, riches and pious people, about what was the best thing to do for someone destined to die in 7 days time. After hearing different propositions, he was told that the best thing to do was to hear from a self-realised person about the ultimate goal in life. In that way, by Providence, Sukadeva Goswami, a self resized soul, narrated the Srimas Bhagavatam to Maharaja Pariksit, during 7 days and 7 nights, at one spot on the banks of the river Ganges. Thanks to that action, humanity can now have the benefit of the nectarine narration of the Srimad Bhagavatam. The beginning of that great literature is "Om namo bhagavate vasudevaya" which is a mantra. The second text as translated by Srila Prabhupada is "Completely rejecting all religious activities which are materially motivated, this Bhagavat Purana propounds the highest truth, which is understandable by those devotees who are pure in heart." you << Thank you we are in much agreement here. I was asked if one could prmote my little newsletter after Sept. 11th. I said no thank you. I have no doubt of the origin of the installments that month. They were no from my ego and I was depressed the whole time I wrote it. I put the planner out there for those who need insight and help getting through the days, weeks and months of life. My intent is to ease the stress not cause it. I knew immediately that publicity would bring folks who would be drawn to prediction rather than insight. I never lose sight of where the information "ultimately" comes from. It is not from my intellect or skill but from the sense of connection to the planets as I feel them and the stories of the nakshatras as they reveal themselves.>> me Those that have a material motive will always seek for profit, disregarding anything else. Eventually, karma will deal with them. you <<I suspect that the rich and subtle insight of astrology will ever be elusive to those who want it for fame. Even if fame comes, it will be short-lived as astrology is deeper and richer than the mundane world.>> me Yes, i have seen that to happen and it is still happening. you <<The astrologer Caroline CAsey called astrology a mystery school cleverly disguised as a language of human understanding....or something like that.>> me Yes indeed, we cannot limit astrology with our words, it is a divine science. you <<again, than you for the dialogue. What do you make of the nak. Mrigashira holding Rahu, Mars, Venus and the Moon while Saturn lingers in Rohini?>> In my own experience, the more planets we see together in a sign or constellation, the more complexity of forces we will see sooner or later. Mrigasira is ruled by the Mars and Mars by being in his own constellation becomes very strong. That strength is shared among the other planets that are together in there. We can see there, Venus and the Moon, therefore the strength of those 2 planets is also given to their host planet Saturn. Saturn is now in Taurus, a sign of Venus and in Rohini, a constellation of the Moon. Therefore, Saturn is having like the power of attorney to bestow his energies as he wishes. We are living in magical times, divine intervention is in full view, we only need to wait to see the designs of the Lord. Mrigasira has a deer as a symbol and Orion is connected to this constellation. I have read in some books that the 3 pyramids in Cairo represent Orion. Also, the 3 pyramids at Teotihuacan, just outside Mexico City. There are many Indian tribes in Mexico. One of them is called Mixtecos. The Mixtecos are called the Deer People. They are the only tribe in all Mexico to keep the Mexican chronology, and they are as well the keepers of the sacred mushroom. The Sacred mushroom is so sacred to them that nobody among them and below the age of 60, is allowed to ingest it. They have many shamans or brujos y brujas as well. According to the author Deva Sharma, Mrigasira has the following ideas: "To seek, look for, to search through, to strive, to attain, to request, ask, solicit, beg, beggar, to purify, adorn, to visit, frequent, pointing out the way, the leader, tracing out, to investigate, to examine. Portion of the human body-The eyes." So, in my opinion, i can answer that the planetary combination that you mention is indicating that all those ideas already quoted, will become more prominent to people. Especially to those that have a connection with those constellations or people. I have to add that Srila Prabhupada has The Moon in Mrigasira and therefore his books are very likely to become prominent and helpful to many. Best wishes Natabara Das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2002 Report Share Posted February 6, 2002 you <<again, than you for the dialogue. What do you make of the nak. Mrigashira holding Rahu, Mars, Venus and the Moon while Saturn lingers in Rohini?>> In my own experience, the more planets we see together in a sign or constellation, the more complexity of forces we will see sooner or later. Mrigasira is ruled by the Mars and Mars by being in his own constellation becomes very strong. That strength is shared among the other planets that are together in there. We can see there, Venus and the Moon, therefore the strength of those 2 planets is also given to their host planet Saturn. {cyn} Here I agree, and I do see the Nakshatras as reflecting the planet that is lord of the mansion. I happen to have Mars in Mrig. I have strange eyes, and often times my vision is a little distorted but I can "see" things that others cannot. I am not a particularly angry or venomnous person so Mars is more for cutting through the trappings. I use it with clients to help point to the knots that have to untie. For this reason, I have difficulty seeing the planets in Mrig. begin particuarly evil. I suspect that we will "see" what needs to be done and it will signal a time of rebuilding. I like Saturn as the anchor of these planets in Rohini. She likes to be liked and offers a sense of rooting or grounding to the whole stellium. If we simply look at the malefics all being involved I can see where false illusion will be shattered. That may well manifest as military action, but it may also manifst as "Truth" appearing in the nightly news. There are many Indian tribes in Mexico. One of them is called Mixtecos. The Mixtecos are called the Deer People. They are the only tribe in all Mexico to keep the Mexican chronology, and they are as well the keepers of the sacred mushroom. The Sacred mushroom is so sacred to them that nobody among them and below the age of 60, is allowed to ingest it. They have many shamans or brujos y brujas as well. {cyn} Could you speak a little more about these people? "To seek, look for, to search through, to strive, to attain, to request, ask, solicit, beg, beggar, to purify, adorn, to visit, frequent, pointing out the way, the leader, tracing out, to investigate, to examine. Portion of the human body-The eyes." So, in my opinion, i can answer that the planetary combination that you mention is indicating that all those ideas already quoted, will become more prominent to people. Especially to those that have a connection with those constellations or people. I have to add that Srila Prabhupada has The Moon in Mrigasira and therefore his books are very likely to become prominent and helpful to many. Best wishes Natabara Das Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo , send an email to: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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