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Just wishing you well during this period which has to be very significant and

can be a very positive growth time.

I'm not a very experience Vedic astrologer. My first instinct was to look at the

Mahadasha and sub-periods. But without the exact time I don't know how accurate

that would be.

When my mother died I had a uranus/moon opposition (I think) in my western

chart...I haven't looked at the Vedic one. And she did die suddenly.

MJG

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Dear All

I've been conspicuously quiet in the past two weeks because my mother is

dying. She has always been verrry Kapha and the process is amazing her care

givers because they thought she would certainly pass on Monday. I am

accepting. She has been in the deep sleep of near death for two weeks. I

hold in my heart that she is free to take her time. If you knew my mother

you would understand that she always took her time <big grins>.

 

I can see it in my natal chart. Rahu natally in my 12th now approaching

Mars lord of my 4th at 28 GE.

 

I don't see it in her chart. Please understand that she is an enigma. For

the past 10 years about this time of year she would have some traumatic

incident. She nearly died the 1st time about 10 years ago during my Sadi

Sati. Historically, she would become depressed and sort of hibernate at

this time each year and start to come out of it on her birthday March 13th.

 

At first my siblings (I am one of 5) and I thought she would rise again, but

the reality set in.

 

I guess what I am asking you much more experienced Vedic astrologers than I

is this. Is this a typical death cycle for one who is very kapha?

 

Her exact time of birth is not known. She was told it was around sundown.

I adjusted it to 6:30pm beacue this places Mars and Rahu in the 2nd and she

has had a very sharp tougue to the very end. Almost as if she didn't know

how to talk without criticism. She also felt very entitled to her anger. My

siblings and I always felt that she would have been happier had she not had

children. She said that was not true, but the lord of the 5th in the 12th

would make sense. She was also reclusive. I grew up on a small farm and

she might even be considered agoraphobic for months and eventually years.

She has been bed ridden for about 7years. It is truly amazing that her

heart and lungs keep on. She also has been at anywhere from 75- 150 pounds

overweight all of her adult life.

 

I give you this data and ask that you help me understand how you see death

of the native within the chart. If you do not feel up to going here, I

understand. As an astrologer, I have just gotten to this point of trying to

see it in her chart today.

 

Her data March 13 1920 6:30pm Bellaire OH.

 

thank you for reading all this, cynthia

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Dear Cynthia,

We all share your sorrow, but such sorrows are inevitable part of life.

So be

brave, and strong and wish her peacefull journey to God. I cannot at

the

moment, do rectification, but instead cast a Prashna.. Please note that

I do not

have much experinence in Prashna, and still learning it. However, let's

give it

a try:

I was given Dhanu Lagna, so Karyesh is 4th house Guru and is in 7th

house in

mithuna in Rx. The prashna was put in the Hora of Guru, so It would

relate to

Both Self and Mother(lagnesh and 4th lord).This is futher confiremed by

Guru

position in 4th house in Navamsa in debilitation. Chandra significatior

both for

mother and mind is placed in 6th in rashi with Shani and Rahu(severe

pains and

unconsciousness) while further Rahu and Chandra are placed in 12th

house of

Navamsa Chart. So the query again is about illness of mother which is

confirmed

by Guru position in Rahu nakshatra. 8th lord chandra is in 6th house but

in

deeptanesh with Guru karyesh, though there is no significant

relationship.

Chandra is faster graha and is moving towards karyesh guru which is Rx

and is

moving towards Chandra. The difference of Degrees is around 12, so in 12

hours/12 days the situation would get worse. You may chant Mritunjaya

Mantra to

ease the pains..

Om SHANTI

Zoran

--

Zoran Radosavljevic

Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre

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Cynthia,

 

As you well know, your mother is under the influence

of many maraka planets. In particular, the planets in

the 64th navamsa are Jupiter and Ketu. The bhukti of

these planets could be fatal.

 

Also, in the near term, the only planet in transit

that would cross your mother's 64th navamsa is the

Moon. That would happen on February 25, 2002.

 

I hope you're holding up well to the stress of this

time of your life. I've lost my parents a few years

ago too. So, I can understand the feelings you're

going through now. Take life as it comes.

 

Regards,

 

John R.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- cynthia novak <c.a.novak wrote:

> Dear All

> I've been conspicuously quiet in the past two weeks

> because my mother is

> dying. She has always been verrry Kapha and the

> process is amazing her care

> givers because they thought she would certainly pass

> on Monday. I am

> accepting. She has been in the deep sleep of near

> death for two weeks. I

> hold in my heart that she is free to take her time.

> If you knew my mother

> you would understand that she always took her time

> <big grins>.

>

> I can see it in my natal chart. Rahu natally in my

> 12th now approaching

> Mars lord of my 4th at 28 GE.

>

> I don't see it in her chart. Please understand that

> she is an enigma. For

> the past 10 years about this time of year she would

> have some traumatic

> incident. She nearly died the 1st time about 10

> years ago during my Sadi

> Sati. Historically, she would become depressed and

> sort of hibernate at

> this time each year and start to come out of it on

> her birthday March 13th.

>

> At first my siblings (I am one of 5) and I thought

> she would rise again, but

> the reality set in.

>

> I guess what I am asking you much more experienced

> Vedic astrologers than I

> is this. Is this a typical death cycle for one who

> is very kapha?

>

> Her exact time of birth is not known. She was told

> it was around sundown.

> I adjusted it to 6:30pm beacue this places Mars and

> Rahu in the 2nd and she

> has had a very sharp tougue to the very end. Almost

> as if she didn't know

> how to talk without criticism. She also felt very

> entitled to her anger. My

> siblings and I always felt that she would have been

> happier had she not had

> children. She said that was not true, but the lord

> of the 5th in the 12th

> would make sense. She was also reclusive. I grew

> up on a small farm and

> she might even be considered agoraphobic for months

> and eventually years.

> She has been bed ridden for about 7years. It is

> truly amazing that her

> heart and lungs keep on. She also has been at

> anywhere from 75- 150 pounds

> overweight all of her adult life.

>

> I give you this data and ask that you help me

> understand how you see death

> of the native within the chart. If you do not feel

> up to going here, I

> understand. As an astrologer, I have just gotten to

> this point of trying to

> see it in her chart today.

>

> Her data March 13 1920 6:30pm Bellaire OH.

>

> thank you for reading all this, cynthia

Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat

> Sat

> :

> gjlist-

>

>

>

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>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Dear John and all

 

Thank you for the kind and compassionate messages. I'm in a good place. I

have accepted that she is in the process of death I only hate that she must

be in discomfort as her body fills with fluid and toxins. She always said

that she didn't want to prolong the process so her treatment has been

limited in this last 11 days to fluids and pain medication. It is amazing

to me that the body is so strong considering the lack of physical activity

for so many years.

 

I have heard of the 64th navamsa but have never used it. I have seen the

transit of the Moon as a timing trigger. My sense is that she will pass at

any time. So the prasna of 12 hours is possible and the 25th is also a

strong possibility. Of 5 children, 2 of us are in Texas and my brother is

the child she was closest to throughout their lives. He is on his way to

Ohio where she is and my guess is that she will hold on until he arrives. I

have always been close to my older siblings and talk to them regularly.

I'll go for the funeral and support them as best as I can. My heart is at

peace as is one of my sisters who sees my mother daily. The others are in

and out of peace but this is something that we have prepared for. It makes

such a difference knowing that the end of the body is not the end of the

spirit.

 

Again, thank you all.

 

cynthia

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John Rasonabe <jr_esq

<gjlist>

Friday, February 22, 2002 7:34 PM

Re: [GJ] Death

 

 

> Cynthia,

>

> As you well know, your mother is under the influence

> of many maraka planets. In particular, the planets in

> the 64th navamsa are Jupiter and Ketu. The bhukti of

> these planets could be fatal.

>

> Also, in the near term, the only planet in transit

> that would cross your mother's 64th navamsa is the

> Moon. That would happen on February 25, 2002.

>

> I hope you're holding up well to the stress of this

> time of your life. I've lost my parents a few years

> ago too. So, I can understand the feelings you're

> going through now. Take life as it comes.

>

> Regards,

>

> John R.

>

>

--- cynthia novak <c.a.novak wrote:

> > Dear All

> > I've been conspicuously quiet in the past two weeks

> > because my mother is

> > dying. She has always been verrry Kapha and the

> > process is amazing her care

> > givers because they thought she would certainly pass

> > on Monday. I am

> > accepting. She has been in the deep sleep of near

> > death for two weeks. I

> > hold in my heart that she is free to take her time.

> > If you knew my mother

> > you would understand that she always took her time

> > <big grins>.

> >

> > I can see it in my natal chart. Rahu natally in my

> > 12th now approaching

> > Mars lord of my 4th at 28 GE.

> >

> > I don't see it in her chart. Please understand that

> > she is an enigma. For

> > the past 10 years about this time of year she would

> > have some traumatic

> > incident. She nearly died the 1st time about 10

> > years ago during my Sadi

> > Sati. Historically, she would become depressed and

> > sort of hibernate at

> > this time each year and start to come out of it on

> > her birthday March 13th.

> >

> > At first my siblings (I am one of 5) and I thought

> > she would rise again, but

> > the reality set in.

> >

> > I guess what I am asking you much more experienced

> > Vedic astrologers than I

> > is this. Is this a typical death cycle for one who

> > is very kapha?

> >

> > Her exact time of birth is not known. She was told

> > it was around sundown.

> > I adjusted it to 6:30pm beacue this places Mars and

> > Rahu in the 2nd and she

> > has had a very sharp tougue to the very end. Almost

> > as if she didn't know

> > how to talk without criticism. She also felt very

> > entitled to her anger. My

> > siblings and I always felt that she would have been

> > happier had she not had

> > children. She said that was not true, but the lord

> > of the 5th in the 12th

> > would make sense. She was also reclusive. I grew

> > up on a small farm and

> > she might even be considered agoraphobic for months

> > and eventually years.

> > She has been bed ridden for about 7years. It is

> > truly amazing that her

> > heart and lungs keep on. She also has been at

> > anywhere from 75- 150 pounds

> > overweight all of her adult life.

> >

> > I give you this data and ask that you help me

> > understand how you see death

> > of the native within the chart. If you do not feel

> > up to going here, I

> > understand. As an astrologer, I have just gotten to

> > this point of trying to

> > see it in her chart today.

> >

> > Her data March 13 1920 6:30pm Bellaire OH.

> >

> > thank you for reading all this, cynthia

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat

> > Sat

> > :

> > gjlist-

> >

> >

> >

> > Your use of is subject to

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

> Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games

> http://sports.

>

>

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> : gjlist-

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

>

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Dear All

 

My mother passed this morning about 5:30pm.

 

In many ways it is a relief to know that she is not in any pain.

 

Thank all of you for your kind words and wishes.

 

I'll be off for a few days.

 

cynthia

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Dear John

 

You were correct. Would you mind sharing a little about the 64th navamsa in

the next few days.

 

This helps me realize that the 6:30pm time was indeed accurate.

 

Thank you for taking the time and for your information

 

 

cynthia

 

 

-

John Rasonabe <jr_esq

<gjlist>

Friday, February 22, 2002 7:34 PM

Re: [GJ] Death

 

 

> Cynthia,

>

> As you well know, your mother is under the influence

> of many maraka planets. In particular, the planets in

> the 64th navamsa are Jupiter and Ketu. The bhukti of

> these planets could be fatal.

>

> Also, in the near term, the only planet in transit

> that would cross your mother's 64th navamsa is the

> Moon. That would happen on February 25, 2002.

>

> I hope you're holding up well to the stress of this

> time of your life. I've lost my parents a few years

> ago too. So, I can understand the feelings you're

> going through now. Take life as it comes.

>

> Regards,

>

> John R.

>

>

--- cynthia novak <c.a.novak wrote:

> > Dear All

> > I've been conspicuously quiet in the past two weeks

> > because my mother is

> > dying. She has always been verrry Kapha and the

> > process is amazing her care

> > givers because they thought she would certainly pass

> > on Monday. I am

> > accepting. She has been in the deep sleep of near

> > death for two weeks. I

> > hold in my heart that she is free to take her time.

> > If you knew my mother

> > you would understand that she always took her time

> > <big grins>.

> >

> > I can see it in my natal chart. Rahu natally in my

> > 12th now approaching

> > Mars lord of my 4th at 28 GE.

> >

> > I don't see it in her chart. Please understand that

> > she is an enigma. For

> > the past 10 years about this time of year she would

> > have some traumatic

> > incident. She nearly died the 1st time about 10

> > years ago during my Sadi

> > Sati. Historically, she would become depressed and

> > sort of hibernate at

> > this time each year and start to come out of it on

> > her birthday March 13th.

> >

> > At first my siblings (I am one of 5) and I thought

> > she would rise again, but

> > the reality set in.

> >

> > I guess what I am asking you much more experienced

> > Vedic astrologers than I

> > is this. Is this a typical death cycle for one who

> > is very kapha?

> >

> > Her exact time of birth is not known. She was told

> > it was around sundown.

> > I adjusted it to 6:30pm beacue this places Mars and

> > Rahu in the 2nd and she

> > has had a very sharp tougue to the very end. Almost

> > as if she didn't know

> > how to talk without criticism. She also felt very

> > entitled to her anger. My

> > siblings and I always felt that she would have been

> > happier had she not had

> > children. She said that was not true, but the lord

> > of the 5th in the 12th

> > would make sense. She was also reclusive. I grew

> > up on a small farm and

> > she might even be considered agoraphobic for months

> > and eventually years.

> > She has been bed ridden for about 7years. It is

> > truly amazing that her

> > heart and lungs keep on. She also has been at

> > anywhere from 75- 150 pounds

> > overweight all of her adult life.

> >

> > I give you this data and ask that you help me

> > understand how you see death

> > of the native within the chart. If you do not feel

> > up to going here, I

> > understand. As an astrologer, I have just gotten to

> > this point of trying to

> > see it in her chart today.

> >

> > Her data March 13 1920 6:30pm Bellaire OH.

> >

> > thank you for reading all this, cynthia

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat

> > Sat

> > :

> > gjlist-

> >

> >

> >

> > Your use of is subject to

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

> Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games

> http://sports.

>

>

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> : gjlist-

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

>

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Namaste Cynthia,

Prayers for you and your mom on your mom's passing.

May both of you be guided and blessed.

Peace and tranquility.

Om Shanti Shanti Shanti Hari Om Tat Sat

Hari Das

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"cynthia novak" <c.a.novak (AT) worldnet (DOT) att.net>

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Re: [GJ] Death

Mon, Feb 25, 2002, 10:49 AM

Dear All

 

My mother passed this morning about 5:30pm.

 

In many ways it is a relief to know that she is not in any pain.

 

Thank all of you for your kind words and wishes.

 

I'll be off for a few days.

 

cynthia

Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

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Dear Cynthia,

 

I pray the Almighty let the departed Soul be blessed and rest in peace.

 

C.S. Ravindramani

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cynthia novak

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Monday, February 25, 2002 9:19 PM

Re: [GJ] Death

Dear All

 

My mother passed this morning about 5:30pm.

 

In many ways it is a relief to know that she is not in any pain.

 

Thank all of you for your kind words and wishes.

 

I'll be off for a few days.

 

cynthiaOm Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo ,

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DEar Cynthia

 

May all the blessings and peace be with you and your family on your mother's passing.

 

dqm

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cynthia novak

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Monday, February 25, 2002 9:49 AM

Re: [GJ] Death

Dear All

 

My mother passed this morning about 5:30pm.

 

In many ways it is a relief to know that she is not in any pain.

 

Thank all of you for your kind words and wishes.

 

I'll be off for a few days.

 

cynthiaOm Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo ,

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Dear Debra and all

 

Thank you for your kind words and compassion.

 

The funeral was really sweet and my heart is light with the knowledge that she

if free from her body. She has been virtually bedridden for 6 or maybe 7

years. She would only get up with assistance to sit in a wheel chair and she

really did that very seldom in the past few years. There was a great sense of

liberation and celebration as well as the sadness for the separation.

 

cynthia

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Debra Quinn Mehren

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Friday, March 01, 2002 3:11 AM

Re: [GJ] Death

DEar Cynthia

 

May all the blessings and peace be with you and your family on your mother's passing.

 

dqm

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cynthia novak

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Monday, February 25, 2002 9:49 AM

Re: [GJ] Death

Dear All

 

My mother passed this morning about 5:30pm.

 

In many ways it is a relief to know that she is not in any pain.

 

Thank all of you for your kind words and wishes.

 

I'll be off for a few days.

 

cynthiaOm Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo ,

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