Guest guest Posted February 27, 2002 Report Share Posted February 27, 2002 Sunday, February 24, 2002 Re: A Cowardly Attack on My Vedic Chart All, The following is an email sent to me anonymously, and my response to same, dated Feb 9. I thought I should post these comments publicly, as it has occurred to me, that perhaps this person could have gotten my data from one of these lists, and could still be a member of one of these forums. Therefore, this is to let him/her know, that their attack/etc has failed. Astrologers, like anyone else, are commonly attacked in this manner, by known as well as hidden enemies; in any sphere of life, whenever one aspires toward a particular goal, challenges appear, usually, in the form of someone who opposes you. This has to come, it is the nature of the 6th house - or should I say, in this case, the 12th, that of hidden enemies. My repsonses are as follows… ?: Firstly your ascendant is badly afflicted by the worst aspects of Mars and Saturn. Venus is in the ascendant badly afflicted by these two malefics. Venus is the 6th lord and 6th from 6th the 11th lord so is the worst functional malefic for Sagittarius ascendant. MU: Yet you forget the fact that both the 6th and the 11th houses are upachaya houses, giving eventual success after initial setbacks. Venus being Vargottoma ensures this. Mars and Saturn's aspects also portend a difficult life early on, but gives the native the Will to achieve, and gives one the toughness to survive the rigors of hard work and competition. Venus in the Asc shows a kind man at heart, shown even more by the Libran Asc in the Navamsa. Right off the bat, you're wrong. ?: The ascendant cusp is in the the nakshatra of Poorva Ashada whose lord Venus is afflicted, so the negative side of this nakshatra will come out producing a large ego and an argumentative person who will not yield or give into others or accept others ideas. This was also shown with Hitler who had his natal Moon in this constellation. MU: Your mentioning of Hitler is proof enough of your "understanding" of Vedic Astrology, for if you wish to compare him to me, your argument falls flat on its face. First off, no self-respecting VA would ever make a conclusion about someone on the basis of one or possibly two placements alone. Secondly, in Hitler's case, he not only had very dominant Mars, but he also had the majority of his planets placed in "fierce" Naksatras (and at least four of them were in the sign of Aries). Mars was also a Maraka for him, and conjoined with Venus, the 6th lord, who was also utterly devoured by Mars in the War that occurred between them. In my case, Venus is one the most powerful planets in my chart, by its being Vargottoma and placed in the 1st house. Additionally, if you took the time to look (which I'm certain you did not) at my Naksatras, you would find that almost ALL of my planets, plus my Lagna, occupies Moksha Naksatras. My chart has infinitely more interest in helping people than Hitler's did. This remark of yours alone calls your motives into high questioning. ?: Your natal Moon representing the mind, is the 8th lord of perverted thinking and disgraceful behaviour located in the 5th house of the intellect in the sign of the head Aries. Your head is full of perverted ideas. On a deeper level the Moon is in the nakshatra of Bharani whose symbol is a Vagina so you are always thinking about sex and women as Venus is the planet of desire and your afflicted Venus shows the worst traits of Venus will come out. Vanity, narcissism, perversions, unatural desires etc. MU: The more you talk, the more you confirm how stupid you are: I have the charts of many sex offenders, and I would wager good money that if I were put them in front of your face, along with the charts of regular, ordinary people, you wouldn't be able to tell who was from who. Discussing such matters requires not only a thorough grounding of the basics and advanced Vedic Astrology, but also requires a good sense of judgement, something that you show is totally lacking in you. For the record, I have NEVER raped anyone, I'm not into pedophilia, necrophilia, etc. While its true that I have a very powerful sexual drive, I have never had to resort to doing any of the above to satiate it - I've been fortunate in the fact that I have never gone lacking for consenting sexual partners. Additionally, addressing your assinine commentary on my Moon, 5th and 8th houses - my Moon is only a day or so from Full, placed in the 5th, AND is aspected by Mars, who is the 5th lord, and in turn is placed in Mercury's exaltation sign Virgo. A first-year VA student knows, that anytime the lord of a house aspects the same, the indications for that house can be only for the better. A strong 8th lord in the 5th, along w/other indications along intellectual lines, almost always suggests a person w/the ability to get the bottom of things. The 8th house is that of Astrology - its lord being placed in the 5th, and in my case, combinated w/Mars, gives strong mathematical ability, which has greatly helped my study of VA. The Moon being placed in the 5th, especially in Aries, shows a lightening-quick mind, able to grasp concepts and the like very quickly. Bharani, the star that my Moon is in, also symbolizes people that can be jealous of the native (which could be the case here) - in any event, it also represents the deep-seated changes that occur in life, particularly those that have this Naksatra strong in their charts, as I do. I mean, this is getting to the point of being ridiculous to even respond to you… ?: The Moon is ava yogi planet or "Evil Planet" as 8th lord in the 5th house. This alone is a bad combination but Saturn and Rahu the two dark planets are in the 4th house of the mind and emotions. Both afflict the ascendant lord in the 10th house. MU: You have demonstrated again your limited, at best, understanding of Vedic Astrology - you have totally left out the fact that Saturn is a yogakaraka for me, on the basis that it is the Yogi Planet for me, is ultra-strong in the Varga Bala, forms Shasha Yoga in my Navamsa and rules the 2nd and 3rd houses in my Rasi. It is angular and associated with Rahu, who is given Raj-Yoga status by Jupiter, who is the Asc Lord. Saturn is aspected by Mars, the 5th lord also. All of these combinations make for an eventually successful person, one that has had to contend with a lot of rocky times but by dent of sheer persistence and determination, makes it to the top. The combination of Saturn and Rahu in the 4th gives the necessary toughness of Spirit to overcome the many things that befall one on the road to success. Saturn is the AMK for me, and placed in the 12th from the Moon and the 10th lord from there also, it suggests greater fame and reknown overseas than in my land of birth. You seriously need a refresher course… ?: Is your ascendant lord jupiter in the 10th house a good planet? Or is it the indication of a giant ego? Jupiter in the 10th house is badly afflicted showing the negative side of Jupiter will come out. An expansive personality with a large opinion of itself. Jupiter with Ketu is not a good combination as both have the influence of Mars and this can reveal a violent and argumentative nature. MU: Again, WRONG - first off, Mars and Jupiter are the best of friends - this is borne out by the fact that for Sag Asc, Mars is the good 5th lord. Moreover, Jupiter in association with Ketu gives profound Spiritual Awareness - since 1992, I have been exposed to things of this sort that the average person walking around would have no idea existed. Jupiter in the 10th is a good placement for anyone, but especially for those with Sag or Pisces rising - in my case, Jupiter also rules the 4th house, giving it more power. Jupiter gets strength from the Navamsa and the Varga Bala, is associated with the 5th lord Mars, and grants BOTH Rahu AND Ketu Raj-Yoga status. Jupiter, Mars and Ketu in the 10th house, in Virgo, gives one that is knowledgable about the Shastras, as well as a host of other things, and gives eventual name and fame as well. ?: The 7th lord Mercury is in the 12th house showing women will run away from you. The Sun and Mercury in Scorpio is a very harsh combination that creates a personality that can be so arrogant and willful it wears people out and drives people away from you. In the 8th house from the Moon these planets are even stronger to bring out anti-social behaviour. MU: If by the above you mean, that I don't suffer fools, you would actually be correct for the first time in your soapbox - but I don't want to give you that much credit. You have forgotten the fact that the Sun and Mercury form Dharma Karma Adhipati Yoga, as they are the rulers of the 9th and 10th houses and are conjoined in the same house. In Scorpio, they give a penetrating insight and a biting wit, one that has been known to sting lesser combatants to death. As the rapper Ludacris says, "If you can't catch the balls, you're in the wrong league…" The Sun and Mercury in the 8th from the Moon gives the strong interest in Astrology, and since I have seen the charts of many, many Astrologers with either the same or similar placements, I guess they are just as "anti-social" as me, huh? What a crock - someone ought to throw you under the jail for murmuring such gibberish. As for your dumb-ass comments about my relationship life, you again have failed to take into account my Navamsa, etc. First off, Venus is Vargottoma, so even if it is aspected by the worst malefics, it still can give eventual happiness in relationship. Second, Mercury is also Vargottoma, and in the Navamsa, is aspected by Jupiter, who, by the way, is the Darakaraka for me. In the Navamsa, Jupiter is in its own sign. Going back to the Navamsa again, Mars, the 7th lord, is placed in the 10th/Cancer, and gains Neecha Bhanga Raj-Yoga status; additionally, Jupiter aspects Mars. Your wrong-headed comments later in this email about Rahu in my Navamsa couldn't be more incorrect, as Rahu here, as in the Rasi, give rise to Raj-Yoga. Additionally, Rahu plays a huge role in my relationship life, for the better. Case in point: since the onset of my Rahu/Jup Dasa, beginning last Fall, I have never had a better time on the relationship front. In fact, I am in a wonderful relationship as I type these words, in Feb, 2K2 - last night, if you must know, we discussed the possibility of marriage. We'll be together again tonight, and have been seeing each other for some time now, at least several months. I've had to TURN DOWN proposals from at least 3 other women, because I am so into this lady. Now, does that sound like someone whom "women will runaway" from? Hmm? ?: I see you as a wolf in sheeps clothing, a man who wants to be the king of astrology but lacks the integrity required to help people unless there is something in it for himself. The navamsha with the Moon and Rahu in Libra in the ascendant shows he could be potentially very destructive with his influence on impresionable minds. Especially women!! MU: And I see you as an A-1 Coward, an individual that thinks he/she has something of substance to say, but it falls flat on its face when he/she does not have the heart/balls/hutzpah to affix their name to the diatribe that passes itself off for an email here. You probably have a strong 12th house emphasis in your chart, perhaps Mars is there, with Mercury in the 6th house - such combinations are indicative of a coward. You attempt to lecture me on integrity and so on, yet you lurk in the shadows, lobbing your petty insults laced with your feeble Vedic Astrological skills, from the relative safety behind your computer screen. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black - sheesh. You are no better than the Terrorists who plot and plan their evil in the dark of night, and then take pot-shots at unsuspecting innocents in the light of day. There is only one way to deal with the likes of you, there has always only been but one way - and I do hope that God sees fit that I should discover your identity, and meet you face-to-face. As for my personal record, unlike you, it's laid bare for all to see - my data, life details, and service record are a matter of public record. I continue to teach Astrology, for free, down at Temple University, when I could be spending my evenings making money elsewhere; I have founded an Astrological online forum, again, for free, often giving out my insights on Astrological matters, when I could be easily making money consulting for someone somewhere; and I have continually assisted women in various situations, and in many instances, it had nothing to do with Astrology, and again I might add, FOR FREE. I have never put myself up as a Saint, and sure, I've made my fair share of mistakes in life, but I'm far from the Devil you have tried to make me out to be. Again, my record is available to anyone who wants to see it - let's see if you'll put up yours… ?: I am only concerned with the potential you have for causing great damage to legitimate astrology lovers. It is hard enough to develop credibility without lunatics or ego maniacs running around trying to play God. MU: And I suppose behavior akin to that of a sniper goes a long way towards you developing your credibility as a "legitimate astrology lover", huh? I am concerned that there are far too many spineless, cowardly individuals like yourself in this world than the law allows, and if it were left up to me, you would be cleansed from the surface of the earth, much like a can of Lysol cleanses a toilet bowl of fecal scum. I have, through my study, my work, my effort, done much for the World of Astrology, and I will continue, despite your pathetic efforts to derail me. I can see why it would be so hard for you to develop credibility, if your skills are this bad - no wonder so many people think Astrology is a bunch of BS, thanks to people like you. Instead of playa-hatin' on me, you should be studying more, and keeping your mouth shut. Thanks - I think… Salaam, Mu The Undefeated PS: The coward's email address is Brudck, I think; if anyone knows this address, please tell this person to be a real man/woman, and show themselves! ===== Mu'Min M. Bey Western and Vedic Astrologer mumin_bey AOL IM Screen Name: JediMu 2Way Pager: 1-877-345-6499/8773456499; Cell phone: 267-978-2812 Join the Pan Astrological Forum, Where Freedom in Astrological Thought Lives! Just send a blank email to panastroforum- Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2002 Report Share Posted February 27, 2002 Dear Mu, Strange at least. This is actually the first time I see someone uses one's chart for such purposes.Oh.. kali Yuga.. May Lord Jagannath bring peace and harmony, Best wishes, Zoran Mu'Min Bey wrote: > Sunday, February 24, 2002 > Re: A Cowardly Attack on My Vedic Chart > > All, > The following is an email sent to me anonymously, and > my response to same, dated Feb 9. I thought I should > post these comments publicly, as it has occurred to > me, that perhaps this person could have gotten my data > from one of these lists, and could still be a member > of one of these forums. Therefore, this is to let > him/her know, that their attack/etc has failed. > > Astrologers, like anyone else, are commonly attacked > in this manner, by known as well as hidden enemies; in > any sphere of life, whenever one aspires toward a > particular goal, challenges appear, usually, in the > form of someone who opposes you. This has to come, it > is the nature of the 6th house - or should I say, in > this case, the 12th, that of hidden enemies. > > My repsonses are as follows… > > ?: Firstly your ascendant is > badly afflicted by the worst aspects of Mars and > Saturn. Venus is in the > ascendant badly afflicted by these two malefics. Venus > is the 6th lord and > 6th from 6th the 11th lord so is the worst functional > malefic for Sagittarius > ascendant. > > MU: Yet you forget the fact that both the 6th and the > 11th houses are upachaya houses, giving eventual > success after initial setbacks. Venus being Vargottoma > ensures this. Mars and Saturn's aspects also portend a > difficult life early on, but gives the native the Will > to achieve, and gives one the toughness to survive the > rigors of hard work and competition. Venus in the Asc > shows a kind man at heart, shown even more by the > Libran Asc in the Navamsa. Right off the bat, you're > wrong. > > ?: The ascendant cusp is in the the nakshatra of > Poorva Ashada whose lord Venus > is afflicted, so the negative side of this nakshatra > will come out producing > a large ego and an argumentative person who will not > yield or give into > others or accept others ideas. This was also shown > with Hitler who had his > natal Moon in this constellation. > > MU: Your mentioning of Hitler is proof enough of your > "understanding" of Vedic Astrology, for if you wish to > compare him to me, your argument falls flat on its > face. First off, no self-respecting VA would ever make > a conclusion about someone on the basis of one or > possibly two placements alone. Secondly, in Hitler's > case, he not only had very dominant Mars, but he also > had the majority of his planets placed in "fierce" > Naksatras (and at least four of them were in the sign > of Aries). Mars was also a Maraka for him, and > conjoined with Venus, the 6th lord, who was also > utterly devoured by Mars in the War that occurred > between them. In my case, Venus is one the most > powerful planets in my chart, by its being Vargottoma > and placed in the 1st house. Additionally, if you took > the time to look (which I'm certain you did not) at my > Naksatras, you would find that almost ALL of my > planets, plus my Lagna, occupies Moksha Naksatras. My > chart has infinitely more interest in helping people > than Hitler's did. This remark of yours alone calls > your motives into high questioning. > > ?: Your natal Moon representing the mind, is the 8th > lord of perverted thinking > and disgraceful behaviour located in the 5th house of > the intellect in the > sign of the head Aries. Your head is full of perverted > ideas. On a deeper > level the Moon is in the nakshatra of Bharani whose > symbol is a Vagina so you > are always thinking about sex and women as Venus is > the planet of desire and > your afflicted Venus shows the worst traits of Venus > will come out. Vanity, > narcissism, perversions, unatural desires etc. > > MU: The more you talk, the more you confirm how stupid > you are: I have the charts of many sex offenders, and > I would wager good money that if I were put them in > front of your face, along with the charts of regular, > ordinary people, you wouldn't be able to tell who was > from who. Discussing such matters requires not only a > thorough grounding of the basics and advanced Vedic > Astrology, but also requires a good sense of > judgement, something that you show is totally lacking > in you. For the record, I have NEVER raped anyone, I'm > not into pedophilia, necrophilia, etc. While its true > that I have a very powerful sexual drive, I have never > had to resort to doing any of the above to satiate it > - I've been fortunate in the fact that I have never > gone lacking for consenting sexual partners. > Additionally, addressing your assinine commentary on > my Moon, 5th and 8th houses - my Moon is only a day or > so from Full, placed in the 5th, AND is aspected by > Mars, who is the 5th lord, and in turn is placed in > Mercury's exaltation sign Virgo. A first-year VA > student knows, that anytime the lord of a house > aspects the same, the indications for that house can > be only for the better. A strong 8th lord in the 5th, > along w/other indications along intellectual lines, > almost always suggests a person w/the ability to get > the bottom of things. The 8th house is that of > Astrology - its lord being placed in the 5th, and in > my case, combinated w/Mars, gives strong mathematical > ability, which has greatly helped my study of VA. The > Moon being placed in the 5th, especially in Aries, > shows a lightening-quick mind, able to grasp concepts > and the like very quickly. Bharani, the star that my > Moon is in, also symbolizes people that can be jealous > of the native (which could be the case here) - in any > event, it also represents the deep-seated changes that > occur in life, particularly those that have this > Naksatra strong in their charts, as I do. I mean, this > is getting to the point of being ridiculous to even > respond to you… > > ?: The Moon is ava yogi planet or "Evil Planet" as 8th > lord in the 5th house. > This alone is a bad combination but Saturn and Rahu > the two dark planets are > in the 4th house of the mind and emotions. Both > afflict the ascendant lord in > the 10th house. > > MU: You have demonstrated again your limited, at best, > understanding of Vedic Astrology - you have totally > left out the fact that Saturn is a yogakaraka for me, > on the basis that it is the Yogi Planet for me, is > ultra-strong in the Varga Bala, forms Shasha Yoga in > my Navamsa and rules the 2nd and 3rd houses in my > Rasi. It is angular and associated with Rahu, who is > given Raj-Yoga status by Jupiter, who is the Asc Lord. > Saturn is aspected by Mars, the 5th lord also. All of > these combinations make for an eventually successful > person, one that has had to contend with a lot of > rocky times but by dent of sheer persistence and > determination, makes it to the top. The combination of > Saturn and Rahu in the 4th gives the necessary > toughness of Spirit to overcome the many things that > befall one on the road to success. Saturn is the AMK > for me, and placed in the 12th from the Moon and the > 10th lord from there also, it suggests greater fame > and reknown overseas than in my land of birth. You > seriously need a refresher course… > > ?: Is your ascendant lord jupiter in the 10th house a > good planet? Or is it the > indication of a giant ego? Jupiter in the 10th house > is badly afflicted > showing the negative side of Jupiter will come out. An > expansive personality > with a large opinion of itself. Jupiter with Ketu is > not a good combination > as both have the influence of Mars and this can reveal > a violent and > argumentative nature. > > MU: Again, WRONG - first off, Mars and Jupiter are the > best of friends - this is borne out by the fact that > for Sag Asc, Mars is the good 5th lord. Moreover, > Jupiter in association with Ketu gives profound > Spiritual Awareness - since 1992, I have been exposed > to things of this sort that the average person walking > around would have no idea existed. Jupiter in the > 10th is a good placement for anyone, but especially > for those with Sag or Pisces rising - in my case, > Jupiter also rules the 4th house, giving it more > power. Jupiter gets strength from the Navamsa and the > Varga Bala, is associated with the 5th lord Mars, and > grants BOTH Rahu AND Ketu Raj-Yoga status. Jupiter, > Mars and Ketu in the 10th house, in Virgo, gives one > that is knowledgable about the Shastras, as well as a > host of other things, and gives eventual name and fame > as well. > > ?: The 7th lord Mercury is in the 12th house showing > women will run away from > you. The Sun and Mercury in Scorpio is a very harsh > combination that creates > a personality that can be so arrogant and willful it > wears people out and > drives people away from you. In the 8th house from the > Moon these planets are > even stronger to bring out anti-social behaviour. > > MU: If by the above you mean, that I don't suffer > fools, you would actually be correct for the first > time in your soapbox - but I don't want to give you > that much credit. You have forgotten the fact that the > Sun and Mercury form Dharma Karma Adhipati Yoga, as > they are the rulers of the 9th and 10th houses and are > conjoined in the same house. In Scorpio, they give a > penetrating insight and a biting wit, one that has > been known to sting lesser combatants to death. As the > rapper Ludacris says, "If you can't catch the balls, > you're in the wrong league…" > > The Sun and Mercury in the 8th from the Moon gives the > strong interest in Astrology, and since I have seen > the charts of many, many Astrologers with either the > same or similar placements, I guess they are just as > "anti-social" as me, huh? What a crock - someone ought > to throw you under the jail for murmuring such > gibberish. > > As for your dumb-ass comments about my relationship > life, you again have failed to take into account my > Navamsa, etc. First off, Venus is Vargottoma, so even > if it is aspected by the worst malefics, it still can > give eventual happiness in relationship. Second, > Mercury is also Vargottoma, and in the Navamsa, is > aspected by Jupiter, who, by the way, is the > Darakaraka for me. In the Navamsa, Jupiter is in its > own sign. Going back to the Navamsa again, Mars, the > 7th lord, is placed in the 10th/Cancer, and gains > Neecha Bhanga Raj-Yoga status; additionally, Jupiter > aspects Mars. Your wrong-headed comments later in this > email about Rahu in my Navamsa couldn't be more > incorrect, as Rahu here, as in the Rasi, give rise to > Raj-Yoga. Additionally, Rahu plays a huge role in my > relationship life, for the better. Case in point: > since the onset of my Rahu/Jup Dasa, beginning last > Fall, I have never had a better time on the > relationship front. In fact, I am in a wonderful > relationship as I type these words, in Feb, 2K2 - last > night, if you must know, we discussed the possibility > of marriage. We'll be together again tonight, and have > been seeing each other for some time now, at least > several months. I've had to TURN DOWN proposals from > at least 3 other women, because I am so into this > lady. Now, does that sound like someone whom "women > will runaway" from? Hmm? > > ?: I see you as a wolf in sheeps clothing, a man who > wants to be the king of > astrology but lacks the integrity required to help > people unless there is > something in it for himself. The navamsha with the > Moon and Rahu in Libra in > the ascendant shows he could be potentially very > destructive with his > influence on impresionable minds. Especially women!! > > MU: And I see you as an A-1 Coward, an individual that > thinks he/she has something of substance to say, but > it falls flat on its face when he/she does not have > the heart/balls/hutzpah to affix their name to the > diatribe that passes itself off for an email here. You > probably have a strong 12th house emphasis in your > chart, perhaps Mars is there, with Mercury in the 6th > house - such combinations are indicative of a coward. > You attempt to lecture me on integrity and so on, yet > you lurk in the shadows, lobbing your petty insults > laced with your feeble Vedic Astrological skills, from > the relative safety behind your computer screen. Talk > about the pot calling the kettle black - sheesh. You > are no better than the Terrorists who plot and plan > their evil in the dark of night, and then take > pot-shots at unsuspecting innocents in the light of > day. There is only one way to deal with the likes of > you, there has always only been but one way - and I do > hope that God sees fit that I should discover your > identity, and meet you face-to-face. > > As for my personal record, unlike you, it's laid bare > for all to see - my data, life details, and service > record are a matter of public record. I continue to > teach Astrology, for free, down at Temple University, > when I could be spending my evenings making money > elsewhere; I have founded an Astrological online > forum, again, for free, often giving out my insights > on Astrological matters, when I could be easily making > money consulting for someone somewhere; and I have > continually assisted women in various situations, and > in many instances, it had nothing to do with > Astrology, and again I might add, FOR FREE. I have > never put myself up as a Saint, and sure, I've made my > fair share of mistakes in life, but I'm far from the > Devil you have tried to make me out to be. Again, my > record is available to anyone who wants to see it - > let's see if you'll put up yours… > > ?: I am only concerned with the potential you have for > causing great damage to > legitimate astrology lovers. It is hard enough to > develop credibility without > lunatics or ego maniacs running around trying to play > God. > > MU: And I suppose behavior akin to that of a sniper > goes a long way towards you developing your > credibility as a "legitimate astrology lover", huh? I > am concerned that there are far too many spineless, > cowardly individuals like yourself in this world than > the law allows, and if it were left up to me, you > would be cleansed from the surface of the earth, much > like a can of Lysol cleanses a toilet bowl of fecal > scum. I have, through my study, my work, my effort, > done much for the World of Astrology, and I will > continue, despite your pathetic efforts to derail me. > I can see why it would be so hard for you to develop > credibility, if your skills are this bad - no wonder > so many people think Astrology is a bunch of BS, > thanks to people like you. Instead of playa-hatin' on > me, you should be studying more, and keeping your > mouth shut. > > Thanks - I think… > > Salaam, > Mu The Undefeated > > PS: The coward's email address is Brudck, I > think; if anyone knows this address, please tell this > person to be a real man/woman, and show themselves! > > > > ===== > Mu'Min M. Bey > Western and Vedic Astrologer > mumin_bey > AOL IM Screen Name: JediMu > 2Way Pager: 1-877-345-6499/8773456499; Cell phone: 267-978-2812 > Join the Pan Astrological Forum, Where Freedom in Astrological Thought Lives! Just send a blank email to panastroforum- > > > > Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! > http://greetings. > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to -- Zoran Radosavljevic Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre mails: ahimsa ahimsa web address: http://www.sjvc.co.yu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 Dear Mu I haven't seen this Brudck on this list or any other list . This Brudck seems to favor "pure" astrology whatever that is however I have never seen any traditional astrologer delineate a chart in such a way nor any classical text that advocates this as a use of astrology .Let's hope that this is the last time we see such misuse of a sacred science that should be approached with humility and veneration and utilised to help others . Maybe this is the last roll of the dice for the Guru Candala Yoga that ends with Rahu moving into Taurus today : - ) Best of luck getting jyotish out to the masses Nicholas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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