Guest guest Posted March 30, 2002 Report Share Posted March 30, 2002 a friend of mine visited me with her son, who has a speech defect.hesitation in speech and distinct stammer.i looked into the 2nd house and found saturn and merc in virgo.do you think that is the main cause or is it something else? his DOB is 25th august 1982 6:32am bombay india lagna is leo and moon is in libra!!! waiting for your input thanks rhoda Greetings - send greetings for Easter, Passover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2002 Report Share Posted March 31, 2002 Dear Rhoda, give me some time and I will also look at it. Best, Ilona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2002 Report Share Posted April 1, 2002 Dear Rhoda, Thanks for this chart. I must say that I'm a beginner as you can see here, but have given a look at this chart as I'm quite interested in health and what charts show in the physical body as well as other indicators. So I have taken this more as chart for study rather than that I am experienced enough to help you. Still though thought I'd share this with you, but please don't take any of this too strongly from this beginner. So for this chart looking for stammer, we would naturally give emphasis to the 2H as house of speech. Also Mercury as natural ruler of 2H and speech. And we might want to check Saturn as well as Saturn rules nerves and it's thought that nerves may be a contributing factor to stammer in some individuals. An interesting thing about this chart is Mercury is exalted, which would lead one to think no problem with speech, and quite the contrary. Further considerations to Mercury though is he is also the lord of 2nd house, and Mercury is with Saturn conjoined. Saturn ruler of 6th (and 7th). For Leo Lagna, Saturn is most inauspicious. So right away we do start seeing some problems with Mercury as you pointed out. And since we know stammering is the problem, this makes it much easier. I would think we would also want to check the condition of Sun being that the Sun is a natural karaka for body and also the Ascendent lord, again indicating physical body. And we would also check the Ascendant itself. And any benefics or malefics aspecting these points mentioned above. In his rasi chart, Mercury is also lord of 11H Gemini, with Rahu there. And Mercury/Saturn conjunction is 12H from Moon. In this chart Sun is also in the 1H. Since Sun is karaka for the body, it is harmful to have this Sun in the 1H. Ascendant is in Nakshatra Magha, lorded by Ketu and sub lord Saturn and sub - sub lord Saturn. Sun is also in Magha with Ketu lord, this time Jupiter sub lord, and again Saturn sub - sub lord. For Nakshatra Magha - physiology and diseases: nose, lips and chin. According to Krishnamurti, the strongest influence on any planet are the planets located in the nakshatras belonging to the said planet. Looking at the condition of this Sun: Mercury is the only planet in Nakshatra ruled by Sun. We have already looked at the influences on Mercury in the Rasi. For Mercury here, there are no planets in the Nakshatras ruled by Mercury. 2H cusp is Virgo lorded by Mercury with Nakshatra lord Sun (Venus as sub and sub - sub lord). In Cuspal chart itself Saturn in 2H (with Pluto), and now Mercury on Ascendant and Sun in 12H conjoined Venus in Cancer ruled by Moon. Rahu still in 11H ruled by Mercury. Aspects in rasi by Rasi dristi: both Ketu and Rahu have Rasi dristi on 2H, and therefore Mercury and Saturn. Rasi chart: No benefics in kendras. In Navamsa Ascendent is Gemini, Mercury ruled, with again Sun in Ascendant which again as karaka for body is harmful for physical health. Navamsa Lagnesh Mercury is in the 8H with Jupiter in Capricorn, lorded by Saturn. And Saturn in 3H in Leo ruled by Sun. So there seems to be a lot going on with this chart bringing together a harmed Sun, for physical significators, and indicators to Mercury and Saturn. On top of that Ketu is also strongly present in this at the subtler level of Nakshatra lord and sub lord along with Saturn's influence there again. And influence from Rahu. In Navamsa, lord of 2H is Moon in 11H Aries lorded by Mars. Mars is in 10H conjoined Rahu. In Shashthamsa chart of health troubles, Mercury is in 6H (disease), 2H has Jupiter, ruler of the 8H, and Saturn is in 11H in Jupiter lorded sign Pisces. Sun again in Lagna! What's interesting here in this varga chart of health troubles, his 3H has debilitated Mars in Cancer with Ketu and Rahu! With that and the loaded 3H in Rasi and Cuspal chart, and Saturn in 3H Navamsa in sign of Leo connecting so much with Sun, I'm wondering if this man hears correctly or has any problem with hearing that may also possibly be affecting his speech? In Rasi chart 8th lord Jupiter in 3H is in Swati Nakshatra, Rahu lord, Saturn sub lord. Mars also in 3H, also in Swati with Rahu lord, Mars sub lord! (Moon who is 12H lord is there as well in 3H but in Vashakha.) 3H cusp in Swati as well with Rahu lord and sub lord, Mars sub - sub lord. Swati's deity is Vayu and Ayurvedically-speaking is Vata. Enough ;-) I have read somewhere that Ketu can also give stammer problems when in 2H, so perhaps here too with his influence... and what of Rahu's contacts with this? - (I don't know if it too gives stammer when in 2H.) There are also things going on in this chart with Yogas but I'm still not studied in them yet... Kindest regards, Patrice Rhoda wrote: a friend of mine visited me with her son, who has a speech defect.hesitation in speech and distinct stammer.i looked into the 2nd house and found saturn and merc in virgo.do you think that is the main cause or is it something else? his DOB is 25th august 1982 6:32am bombay india Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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