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Dear Cynthia

 

> I am always struggling as an astrology to make sense of what is not so

> obvious.

 

There are generalised rules available in many texts which work to a certain

extent . However understanding the conditions under which exceptions arise

is extremely subtle and I believe take years and years of experience .When

do benfics in the 6th indicate a great worker rather than an argumentative

or sickly person .When do benefics in the 12th represent success in foreign

lands rather than a waste of positive energies .When does an activated 8th

house

indicate deep spiritual transformation

as distinct from irreligion .

 

In general it was considered

that one had to reach 60 years before he/she could be accepted as a master

of a Vedic discipline . The ability to blend the dashas with the transits on

top of the natal chart also takes enormous practise .Plus considerable

material knowledge may be required to answer certain questions .For example

a pretty sound and thourough medical knowledge I believe is necessary before

you can start attempting medical astrology .The same I believe to be true if

one is going to predict stock markets or weather .

 

Faced with all this many take shelter of a deity and allow the inspiration

to come from within .

 

Kind regards

Nicholas

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Dear Nicholas

 

Are you suggesting that simply because the astrologer does not "know all"

from the chart that he should not practice jyotish? I will agree that it

takes years of experience, and even though I have over 20 years practice

with planetary transits and know a great deal about the outer-planet

transits I know less about dashas and bhuktis then I did last month let

alone last year. If I were to wait until age 60 to share what I know I

would never know as much as I could come to know by age 60 <catch 22>

 

I do "take shelter in a deity" and ask for inspiration because I know the

limits of being human. I am not so egotistic to assume that I can know it

all or know what is best for another. I do seem to have the ability to help

clients with insights and really help them to untie their knots. Should I

abstain from this because of my age? This work is so big that I spent 17

years studying and applying on a part-time basis before going full time.

Many chided me for waiting so long, and now it seems that you are chiding me

for not waiting long enough <grins>

 

What I really hoped to do was to inspire discussion about those cases that

do not seem to fit the obvious so that we might learn from them. There is

something inherently off track to me when astrologers assume that the person

is always where they were when they were born. That takes away the

potential for evolution of consciousness and choice. That may be a radical

idea, but it strikes me that we are faced with choices again and again.

SOme learn when they are 20, other s 30 and others at 90. Some may not

learn in this lifetime at all. The transits and dashas offer insight into

the potential for learning and windows for that timing.

 

I love to see when a person goes through an apparently difficult cycle in

great rhythm with the universe. I ask questions and learn so that I might

use the tools they used to help others. If I waited until I personally

discovered all of these tools I might be waiting for lifetimes <grins>

 

cynthia

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Nicholas <jyotish108

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Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:50 PM

[GJ] Struggling with the not so obvious

 

 

> Dear Cynthia

>

> > I am always struggling as an astrology to make sense of what is not so

> > obvious.

>

> There are generalised rules available in many texts which work to a

certain

> extent . However understanding the conditions under which exceptions arise

> is extremely subtle and I believe take years and years of experience

..When

> do benfics in the 6th indicate a great worker rather than an argumentative

> or sickly person .When do benefics in the 12th represent success in

foreign

> lands rather than a waste of positive energies .When does an activated 8th

> house

> indicate deep spiritual transformation

> as distinct from irreligion .

>

> In general it was considered

> that one had to reach 60 years before he/she could be accepted as a master

> of a Vedic discipline . The ability to blend the dashas with the transits

on

> top of the natal chart also takes enormous practise .Plus considerable

> material knowledge may be required to answer certain questions .For

example

> a pretty sound and thourough medical knowledge I believe is necessary

before

> you can start attempting medical astrology .The same I believe to be true

if

> one is going to predict stock markets or weather .

>

> Faced with all this many take shelter of a deity and allow the inspiration

> to come from within .

>

> Kind regards

> Nicholas

>

>

>

>

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> : gjlist-

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

>

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Dear Cynthia

Agreed .Now what conditions to the not so obvious significations arise as

distinct from the more common significations .

N

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"cynthia novak" <c.a.novak

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Saturday, April 06, 2002 8:53 AM

Re: [GJ] Struggling with the not so obvious

 

 

> Dear Nicholas

>

> Are you suggesting that simply because the astrologer does not "know all"

> from the chart that he should not practice jyotish? I will agree that it

> takes years of experience, and even though I have over 20 years practice

> with planetary transits and know a great deal about the outer-planet

> transits I know less about dashas and bhuktis then I did last month let

> alone last year. If I were to wait until age 60 to share what I know I

> would never know as much as I could come to know by age 60 <catch 22>

>

> I do "take shelter in a deity" and ask for inspiration because I know the

> limits of being human. I am not so egotistic to assume that I can know it

> all or know what is best for another. I do seem to have the ability to

help

> clients with insights and really help them to untie their knots. Should I

> abstain from this because of my age? This work is so big that I spent 17

> years studying and applying on a part-time basis before going full time.

> Many chided me for waiting so long, and now it seems that you are chiding

me

> for not waiting long enough <grins>

>

> What I really hoped to do was to inspire discussion about those cases that

> do not seem to fit the obvious so that we might learn from them. There is

> something inherently off track to me when astrologers assume that the

person

> is always where they were when they were born. That takes away the

> potential for evolution of consciousness and choice. That may be a

radical

> idea, but it strikes me that we are faced with choices again and again.

> SOme learn when they are 20, other s 30 and others at 90. Some may not

> learn in this lifetime at all. The transits and dashas offer insight into

> the potential for learning and windows for that timing.

>

> I love to see when a person goes through an apparently difficult cycle in

> great rhythm with the universe. I ask questions and learn so that I might

> use the tools they used to help others. If I waited until I personally

> discovered all of these tools I might be waiting for lifetimes <grins>

>

> cynthia

> -

> Nicholas <jyotish108

> <gjlist>

> Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:50 PM

> [GJ] Struggling with the not so obvious

>

>

> > Dear Cynthia

> >

> > > I am always struggling as an astrology to make sense of what is not so

> > > obvious.

> >

> > There are generalised rules available in many texts which work to a

> certain

> > extent . However understanding the conditions under which exceptions

arise

> > is extremely subtle and I believe take years and years of experience

> .When

> > do benfics in the 6th indicate a great worker rather than an

argumentative

> > or sickly person .When do benefics in the 12th represent success in

> foreign

> > lands rather than a waste of positive energies .When does an activated

8th

> > house

> > indicate deep spiritual transformation

> > as distinct from irreligion .

> >

> > In general it was considered

> > that one had to reach 60 years before he/she could be accepted as a

master

> > of a Vedic discipline . The ability to blend the dashas with the

transits

> on

> > top of the natal chart also takes enormous practise .Plus considerable

> > material knowledge may be required to answer certain questions .For

> example

> > a pretty sound and thourough medical knowledge I believe is necessary

> before

> > you can start attempting medical astrology .The same I believe to be

true

> if

> > one is going to predict stock markets or weather .

> >

> > Faced with all this many take shelter of a deity and allow the

inspiration

> > to come from within .

> >

> > Kind regards

> > Nicholas

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> > : gjlist-

> >

> >

> >

> > Your use of is subject to

 

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> : gjlist-

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

>

>

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Dear Cynthia

 

> I am always struggling as an astrology to make sense of what is not so

> obvious.

 

There are generalised rules available in many texts which work to a certain

extent . However understanding the conditions under which exceptions arise

is extremely subtle and I believe take years and years of experience .When

do benfics in the 6th indicate a great worker rather than an argumentative

or sickly person .When do benefics in the 12th represent success in foreign

lands rather than a waste of positive energies .When does an activated 8th

house

indicate deep spiritual transformation

as distinct from irreligion .

 

In general it was considered

that one had to reach 60 years before he/she could be accepted as a master

of a Vedic discipline . The ability to blend the dashas with the transits on

top of the natal chart also takes enormous practise .Plus considerable

material knowledge may be required to answer certain questions .For example

a pretty sound and thourough medical knowledge I believe is necessary before

you can start attempting medical astrology .The same I believe to be true if

one is going to predict stock markets or weather .

 

Faced with all this many take shelter of a deity and allow the inspiration

to come from within .

 

Kind regards

Nicholas

 

 

 

 

 

Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

: gjlist-

 

 

 

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