Guest guest Posted April 17, 2002 Report Share Posted April 17, 2002 I have heard of this many times. for this remedy is a pooja called as "narayan nagbali" and which is performed only in nashik ( in india in maharashtra). but i don't know where do you stay. so i am unable to determine if that is suitable for you or not. i don't have details of the pooja but if you want to i can check and find details and inform you. Bandu "Ajay P. Nagrecha" <eyelite (AT) blr (DOT) vsnl.net.in> wrote: Dear Listers,I have recently encountered two instances where a native was supposedly afflicted with the curse of a snake ( the practitioner who said this explained that killing a snake results in such a curse). What the practitioner failed to explain was whether the summation of a curse was deduced by the Kundali or by clairvoyance. The native remarks the closest he came was witnessing a snake killed in his compound by two of his employees.While I have heard about curses, is there any aspect of astrology that covers such curses, and prescribes remedial measures? In the cas of a native as above who has no incidence instances where an act can be corroborated, is it possible that it is an earlier birth leftover? How do we determine that and what do we do?I would greatly appreciate your inputs as this is a subject of misery for the anative in question who is being asked to perform Poojas of an expensive nature at a time when he can ill afford it.AjayOm Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted April 18, 2002 Report Share Posted April 18, 2002 Dear Ajay, You may read Pt. Sanjay Rath's book : "Vedic Remedies in Astrology" There, you will find all about it. Best wishes Zoran -- Zoran Radosavljevic Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre mails: ahimsa ahimsa web address: http://www.sjvc.co.yu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2002 Report Share Posted April 18, 2002 Ok I'll first say that I'm not familiar with this curse BUT this sounds a whole lot like a scam played by some "readers" here in the US. First the person comes for some advice. The "reader" looks deeply and quickly sees that the person is under a curse. The reader will lift the curse of bad relationships and other woes for a stout fee. The reader offers to do some ritual but the big emphasis is that this is a life-or-death matter and that big money needs to be spent very soon or it cannot be lifted. The person is told that he cannot lift the curse himself... $$$ One of the worst I heard was a woman who was told that her sister's baby would be born deformed if sister did not come up with $$$ to have the curse lifted. I'm sorry to hear that this is international. Here in TX I've heard of it coming from some eastern European and some Mexicanpractitioners. Note I am not lumping all together, just some. My response is that God or the Gods do not listen selectively and if the person does indeed feel cursed, that doing ritual with a loving heart and generous spirit that feels appropriate. I'm always immediately suspicious when $$$ and divine intervention are used in the same sentence. cynthia - Ajay P. Nagrecha <eyelite <gjlist> Wednesday, April 17, 2002 10:46 PM [GJ] Snake Curse > Dear Listers, > > I have recently encountered two instances where a native was supposedly > afflicted with the curse of a snake ( the practitioner who said this > explained that killing a snake results in such a curse). What the > practitioner failed to explain was whether the summation of a curse was > deduced by the Kundali or by clairvoyance. The native remarks the closest > he came was witnessing a snake killed in his compound by two of his employees. > > While I have heard about curses, is there any aspect of astrology that > covers such curses, and prescribes remedial measures? In the cas of a > native as above who has no incidence instances where an act can be > corroborated, is it possible that it is an earlier birth leftover? How do > we determine that and what do we do? > > I would greatly appreciate your inputs as this is a subject of misery for > the anative in question who is being asked to perform Poojas of an > expensive nature at a time when he can ill afford it. > > Ajay > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2002 Report Share Posted April 18, 2002 DearAll I realized after my last post that I should also share with you that I do believe in the power of Pujas and Yagyas. I do understand the validity of ritual. I am very suspicious when a person is told he has a curse for something that he did not do and that the only way out of it is big money. I hope I did not offend anyone, it was not my intention to slander these practices in any way. cynthia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2002 Report Share Posted April 18, 2002 I have to agree with Cynthia. One does not need money for God's Blessings they are not for sale dispite the efforts of scam artists to exploit people and market something they can't give. I am not suggesting genuine saints, and Siddhas are not of great benefit, but God lives in your heart and nothing is hidden from God, and if you approach the Divine with love and sincerity, your response will be equal to your ability to receive. All the great beings tell us to go within, and the reason is to communicate with the Divine within, which is your very Self. May we all be Blessed! Don - "cynthia novak" <c.a.novak <gjlist> Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:44 AM Re: [GJ] Snake Curse > > Ok I'll first say that I'm not familiar with this curse BUT this sounds a > whole lot like a scam played by some "readers" here in the US. First the > person comes for some advice. The "reader" looks deeply and quickly sees > that the person is under a curse. The reader will lift the curse of bad > relationships and other woes for a stout fee. The reader offers to do some > ritual but the big emphasis is that this is a life-or-death matter and that > big money needs to be spent very soon or it cannot be lifted. The person is > told that he cannot lift the curse himself... $$$ > > One of the worst I heard was a woman who was told that her sister's baby > would be born deformed if sister did not come up with $$$ to have the curse > lifted. > > I'm sorry to hear that this is international. Here in TX I've heard of it > coming from some eastern European and some Mexicanpractitioners. Note I am > not lumping all together, just some. My response is that God or the Gods do > not listen selectively and if the person does indeed feel cursed, that doing > ritual with a loving heart and generous spirit that feels appropriate. I'm > always immediately suspicious when $$$ and divine intervention are used in > the same sentence. > > cynthia > - > Ajay P. Nagrecha <eyelite > <gjlist> > Wednesday, April 17, 2002 10:46 PM > [GJ] Snake Curse > > > > Dear Listers, > > > > I have recently encountered two instances where a native was supposedly > > afflicted with the curse of a snake ( the practitioner who said this > > explained that killing a snake results in such a curse). What the > > practitioner failed to explain was whether the summation of a curse was > > deduced by the Kundali or by clairvoyance. The native remarks the closest > > he came was witnessing a snake killed in his compound by two of his > employees. > > > > While I have heard about curses, is there any aspect of astrology that > > covers such curses, and prescribes remedial measures? In the cas of a > > native as above who has no incidence instances where an act can be > > corroborated, is it possible that it is an earlier birth leftover? How do > > we determine that and what do we do? > > > > I would greatly appreciate your inputs as this is a subject of misery for > > the anative in question who is being asked to perform Poojas of an > > expensive nature at a time when he can ill afford it. > > > > Ajay > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2002 Report Share Posted April 18, 2002 Dear List Well said . N - "cynthia novak" <c.a.novak <gjlist> Friday, April 19, 2002 2:44 AM Re: [GJ] Snake Curse > > Ok I'll first say that I'm not familiar with this curse BUT this sounds a > whole lot like a scam played by some "readers" here in the US. First the > person comes for some advice. The "reader" looks deeply and quickly sees > that the person is under a curse. The reader will lift the curse of bad > relationships and other woes for a stout fee. The reader offers to do some > ritual but the big emphasis is that this is a life-or-death matter and that > big money needs to be spent very soon or it cannot be lifted. The person is > told that he cannot lift the curse himself... $$$ > > One of the worst I heard was a woman who was told that her sister's baby > would be born deformed if sister did not come up with $$$ to have the curse > lifted. > > I'm sorry to hear that this is international. Here in TX I've heard of it > coming from some eastern European and some Mexicanpractitioners. Note I am > not lumping all together, just some. My response is that God or the Gods do > not listen selectively and if the person does indeed feel cursed, that doing > ritual with a loving heart and generous spirit that feels appropriate. I'm > always immediately suspicious when $$$ and divine intervention are used in > the same sentence. > > cynthia > - > Ajay P. Nagrecha <eyelite > <gjlist> > Wednesday, April 17, 2002 10:46 PM > [GJ] Snake Curse > > > > Dear Listers, > > > > I have recently encountered two instances where a native was supposedly > > afflicted with the curse of a snake ( the practitioner who said this > > explained that killing a snake results in such a curse). What the > > practitioner failed to explain was whether the summation of a curse was > > deduced by the Kundali or by clairvoyance. The native remarks the closest > > he came was witnessing a snake killed in his compound by two of his > employees. > > > > While I have heard about curses, is there any aspect of astrology that > > covers such curses, and prescribes remedial measures? In the cas of a > > native as above who has no incidence instances where an act can be > > corroborated, is it possible that it is an earlier birth leftover? How do > > we determine that and what do we do? > > > > I would greatly appreciate your inputs as this is a subject of misery for > > the anative in question who is being asked to perform Poojas of an > > expensive nature at a time when he can ill afford it. > > > > Ajay > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2002 Report Share Posted April 22, 2002 dear freind I do believe in the power pooja and jaap . it has its own effect. Ya this pooja u cannot do on ur own u gotta get it done from some pujari who usually does this pooja pls note that i have done this pooja for myself thru a pujari in trimbakeshwar (nasik) this was told to me by my astrologer . first i would suggest that u ocnsult a proper astrologer and find out if actually there is any sarp dosh and u can consult from him regarding where it should be done also i would say that some people have commented on the list that u can be fooled for this , it could be possible also some people have said that the charges are exorbidontly high , well for me it was around Rs.5000/- this also was told by my astrolger that the amount would be in the range of 7000/-- to 8000/- but this pujari was the one from who we conduct our rudri pooja at trimbak every year , i would suggest you that u consult ur astrologer for the time for pooja to be done find a good pujari thru some reference who is based in trimbak (they r specialists there ) avoid being there during sravan month and check out there will be khumbh mela in some time (probably 2003) find a time when it would be peaceful there avoid weekends so that u can avoid rush and pujari can concentrate on ur puja. Raja. JaiShriKrishna The journey of Thousand miles begins with a single step. http://www.MintMail.com/?m=649703 Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2002 Report Share Posted April 24, 2002 Dear Natabara, you wrote: <<On page 394 we read “If Jupiter lord of the house of badha is located in 6th, 8th, or 12th house and in Kendra to Rahu (1st, 4th, 7th or 10th from Rahu), the badha (trouble) should be deemed to arise due to wrath of serpents of a high class. If such a Jupiter is in Kendra (corner) from Gulik it is caused by serpents of inferior types. Rahu located in the house of badha also indicates trouble from serpents. The serpents class being high or low depends on the influence by association or aspect of Sun & Moon (they make them high, otherwise it means a low class).”>> What kind of spirits would these serpents of a higher class be? I have a personal interest, as it seems I qualify for the curse having Gemini lagna, Jupiter (badhakesh) in 8th in kendra to Rahu (which is in the 2nd). Thanks Best regards Maddalena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2002 Report Share Posted May 2, 2002 Dear Natabara, thank you for your futher explanation, it's really appreciated. You wrote: <<However i have to clarify that you have written "incarnations". In the way that i understand, incarnation means God incarnating, or a great liberated soul incarnating, but for us conditioned souls, i think that we should use the word reincarnation.>> Yes, absolutely. In Italian I would have written "reincarnazioni", I don't know why I thought of "incarnations" as the right word in English, it must have been my haste Thanks again Kind regards Maddalena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2002 Report Share Posted May 10, 2002 Dear Maddalena After some holidays..........just kidding, cause i did do not have any holidays. I simple had a break in posting to this list, because of some other commitments like preparing my web page, which is taking shape nicely and hopefully will be ready to be displayed soon although under construction. I was going to post this as SNAKE COURSE, and thinking back it is like that, crocked as the snake course. you <<thank you for your further explanation, it's really appreciated.>> me Many thanks for your appreciation. you <<You wrote: "However i have to clarify that you have written "incarnations". In the way that i understand, incarnation means God incarnating, or a great liberated soul incarnating, but for us conditioned souls, i think that we should use the word reincarnation." <<Yes, absolutely. In Italian I would have written "reincarnazioni", I don't know why I thought of "incarnations" as the right word in English, it must have been my haste >> me Thank you for your explanation, i do read and understand Italian well, because Italian is very similar to Spanish, which is my mother tongue. In fact we have a name for a person as Encarnación, although no much in use in our days, we still hear them. Best wishes Natabara Das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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