Guest guest Posted May 24, 2002 Report Share Posted May 24, 2002 Vajpayee? Let's look at his chart. it is very interesting. He has a Martian sign rising with two planets in it, and three planets in Sagittarius, a fiery sign. So he is a person who could be involved with war and with the armed forces. Currently, the major period of Jupiter is operating. Jupiter is one of the planets in the fiery sign. The sub period is also Jupiter's, until August of 2003. Jupiter is too benefic to involve him in a major war as the lord of both the major aswell as the sub period. In August of 2003, however, he enters into the sub period of Saturn. Saturn receives the aspect of Mars, who owns the house of warring and enemies, the sixth. It also owns the ascendent. So the aspect of Mars on Saturn indicates that the sub period of Saturn should involve him in warring and belicose activity. Unfortunately, Saturn sits in the house of loss. So there will be great losses if he does face war. And notice that Saturn aspects the major lord Jupiter. The sub period of Saturn, given Saturn's aspect to the lord of the major period, tells us that the worst manifestation of Saturn's loss, anguish, violence and all that will be in the sub period ofSaturn, in Jupiter- Saturn. But this is in August of 2003. This is my initial take. Any ideas? Dharma http://skywebsite.com/hollow// Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2002 Report Share Posted May 26, 2002 Hello dharma, On this list we use another ayanamsa so for this chart we come with an ascendent of 20°58 scorpio and the Moon goes to the second house because it sits now in 1°18 sagittarius. Since end of February the native is in Jupiter/Venus and from the end of October he will switch to Jupiter/Sun, so we are not exactly speaking " the same language " . I think Venus is strong for all the houses and Sun is not too bad either. I don't know if we can read the destiny of a country through the chart of an individual, even if he is prime minister. He surely reflects something of the country but I'm not familiar with mundane matters. Best regards Margarita deandddd [0108] Saturday, May 25, 2002 3:37 AM The Indian Prime Minister Vajpayee? Let's look at his chart. it is very interesting. He has a Martian sign rising with two planets in it, and three planets in Sagittarius, a fiery sign. So he is a person who could be involved with war andwith the armed forces. Currently, the major period of Jupiter is operating. Jupiter is one of the planets in the fiery sign. The sub period is also Jupiter's, until August of 2003. Jupiter is too benefic to involve him in amajor war. In August of 2003, however, he enters into the sub period of Saturn. Saturn receives the aspect of Mars, who owns the house of warring and enemies, the sixth. It also owns the ascendent. So the aspect of Mars on Saturn indicates that the sub period of Saturn should involve him in warring and belicose activity. Unfortunately, Saturn sits in the house of loss. So there will be great losses if he does face war. And notice that Saturn aspects the major lord Jupiter. The sub period of Saturn, given Saturn's aspect to the lord of the major period, tells us that the worst manifestation of Saturn's loss, anguish, violence and all that will be in the sub period ofSaturn, in Jupiter- Saturn. But this is in August of 2003. This is my initial take. Any ideas? Dharma http://skywebsite.com/hollow// Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2002 Report Share Posted May 26, 2002 Margarita, How interesting. Is your ayanamsha close to Raman's? Whose ayanamsha is it? If I knew hi, it wouldn't be hard to tell if his Moon were in Scorpio or Sagittarius, then I could test the ayanamsha. But I really know little about him. Now that I think about it, though, I think that it would be hard for him to become the prime minister without the ninth lord in the first. Just Mars as the ascendent lord in a trine is not a lot to go on. The Moon as the ninth lord with seventh lord venus forms a raj yoga, although weak of the side of Venus. IMHO Dharma/Dean , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Hello dharma, > On this list we use another ayanamsa so for this chart we > come with an ascendent of 20°58 scorpio and the Moon goes > to the second house because it sits now in 1°18 > sagittarius. Since end of February the native is in > Jupiter/Venus and from the end of October he will switch to > Jupiter/Sun, so we are not exactly speaking " the same > language " . I think Venus is strong for all the houses and > Sun is not too bad either. I don't know if we can read the > destiny of a country through the chart of an individual, > even if he is prime minister. He surely reflects something > of the country but I'm not familiar with mundane matters. > Best regards > Margarita > > > deandddd [0108@t...] > Saturday, May 25, 2002 3:37 AM > > The Indian Prime > Minister > > Vajpayee? Let's look at his chart. it is very interesting. > He has a > Martian sign rising with two planets in it, and three > planets in > Sagittarius, a fiery sign. So he is a person who could be > involved > with war andwith the armed forces. > > Currently, the major period of Jupiter is operating. > Jupiter is one > of the planets in the fiery sign. The sub period is also > Jupiter's, > until August of 2003. Jupiter is too benefic to involve him > in amajor > war. > > In August of 2003, however, he enters into the sub period > of Saturn. > Saturn receives the aspect of Mars, who owns the house of > warring and > enemies, the sixth. It also owns the ascendent. So the > aspect of Mars > on Saturn indicates that the sub period of Saturn should > involve him > in warring and belicose activity. > > Unfortunately, Saturn sits in the house of loss. So there > will be > great losses if he does face war. > > And notice that Saturn aspects the major lord Jupiter. The > sub period > of Saturn, given Saturn's aspect to the lord of the major > period, > tells us that the worst manifestation of Saturn's loss, > anguish, > violence and all that will be in the sub period ofSaturn, > in Jupiter- > Saturn. > > But this is in August of 2003. > > This is my initial take. Any ideas? > > Dharma > > http://skywebsite.com/hollow// > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2002 Report Share Posted May 26, 2002 Hello, If you are posting to this list, I suppose you are a member. You could then go to the file section and download the lessons.If you're really interested, I suggest you do that. Best regards Margarita deandddd [0108] Sunday, May 26, 2002 1:44 PM Re: The Indian Prime Minister Margarita, How interesting. Is your ayanamsha close to Raman's? Whose ayanamsha is it? If I knew hi, it wouldn't be hard to tell if his Moon were in Scorpio or Sagittarius, then I could test the ayanamsha. But I really know little about him. Now that I think about it, though, I think that it would be hard for him to become the prime minister without the ninth lord in the first. Just Mars as the ascendent lord in a trine is not a lot to go on. The Moon as the ninth lord with seventh lord venus forms a raj yoga, although weak of the side of Venus. IMHO Dharma/Dean , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Hello dharma, > On this list we use another ayanamsa so for this chart we > come with an ascendent of 20°58 scorpio and the Moon goes > to the second house because it sits now in 1°18 > sagittarius. Since end of February the native is in > Jupiter/Venus and from the end of October he will switch to > Jupiter/Sun, so we are not exactly speaking " the same > language " . I think Venus is strong for all the houses and > Sun is not too bad either. I don't know if we can read the > destiny of a country through the chart of an individual, > even if he is prime minister. He surely reflects something > of the country but I'm not familiar with mundane matters. > Best regards > Margarita > > > deandddd [0108@t...] > Saturday, May 25, 2002 3:37 AM > > The Indian Prime > Minister > > Vajpayee? Let's look at his chart. it is very interesting. > He has a > Martian sign rising with two planets in it, and three > planets in > Sagittarius, a fiery sign. So he is a person who could be > involved > with war andwith the armed forces. > > Currently, the major period of Jupiter is operating. > Jupiter is one > of the planets in the fiery sign. The sub period is also > Jupiter's, > until August of 2003. Jupiter is too benefic to involve him > in amajor > war. > > In August of 2003, however, he enters into the sub period > of Saturn. > Saturn receives the aspect of Mars, who owns the house of > warring and > enemies, the sixth. It also owns the ascendent. So the > aspect of Mars > on Saturn indicates that the sub period of Saturn should > involve him > in warring and belicose activity. > > Unfortunately, Saturn sits in the house of loss. So there > will be > great losses if he does face war. > > And notice that Saturn aspects the major lord Jupiter. The > sub period > of Saturn, given Saturn's aspect to the lord of the major > period, > tells us that the worst manifestation of Saturn's loss, > anguish, > violence and all that will be in the sub period ofSaturn, > in Jupiter- > Saturn. > > But this is in August of 2003. > > This is my initial take. Any ideas? > > Dharma > > http://skywebsite.com/hollow// > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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