Guest guest Posted July 17, 2002 Report Share Posted July 17, 2002 Coincidence- incidents that happen at the same time and have something in common... This is fodder in the eyes of astrologers and "mystics" Actually, astrologers and mystics should simply be called "normal" and everyone else "stupid". So.... Yes, there will be constant reminders of and rememberance of, past and present genocides because that is the nature of the dance now, as it was when the planets were here 59 years ago as many jews were daily slaughtered in Europe. The slaughter of the Indians more or less took place alot during the previous period in the late 1800's. The trail of tears took place during the previous one, roughly 60 years earlier. 1820's 1880's 1940's 2000's This is fodder for the 59 yr Saturn/Jupiter cycle written about by me and many others for years. Count the sixty (59) yr cycles, and pivot off the memorable 1940's as your axiz and watch the genocides stack up. Right now it's happening. Do you know where? Does anyone, till it's too late? For example: Common knowledge is "woman get raped". Fact in America: More men are raped in prison by far. What's the "fu..ing" difference? More is more. Getting but. fu..ed by large agressive men in a bodily hole against one's will. Right now I'm listening to an album circulated amongst the IRA This particular song is singing about leave, and don't come back, don't even look back The martial sounds and such, I love it You see, Venusian lust and greed lead us to abuse others. Abuse is not forgotten. Vengence is as ugly as the original motive. And so we go on. Only in final not caring, does a fine dance begin. Respect of space is important. Respect of race and culture is important. There is plenty of land, and the mountains and rivers divide. This is Gods way. Every great real spiritualist teaches this. Until then, we remain in this fixed dance, and right now, it's killing time, and memory of killing time. This is not a coincidence, it's the automated dance of ignorance screaming the same things at us over and over and over. Now the song says: immortal and divine, do you love your mother like I love mine? it's a celtic thing....about earth The only out, be yourself, for God. To thine own self be true, and to God, be always a servant, do both, fully, and be free. There are no countries where there is no greed, for only greed and the fear it causes create borders, walls, locks and weapons. It's caring, or Rahu. Instead, take Ketu, the non-caring. The real celt is automatically an essential muslim, christian, jew, budhist, person, (Amer.Ind.), and hindu, and likewise essentially always each to all others. A soul is a soul, a body a body, something shared, something unique, so it is always, acintya bedabed, one for all, and all for one, and one for one, it is soul for soul, and the truth is the guide to excellence, so let the discussion of truth, not sentiment, be our food. So I speak as a Celt, follower of Druidic knowledge, which is identical to Brahminical, just a difference essence. We are, as say the Vedas, the people of Saturn. White, lanky, gaunt looking, simplistic in some ways, hard as nails in others. We know it's planned, but like Arjuna was taught, only in actually willing and trying to fulfill one's dharma can a person engage that restless mind in God's service, in a natural way that will last. They the Brahmins call this karma yoga. Others call it other things. It is the living breath of the upward path. We always believed in reincarnation, sacrifice, charity, penence, and valour. We were utterly spiritualistic in our lives. Then Rome conquered, then Christianity came, with Latin, writing, history, and they wiped out our faith, our religion, our priests, everything. In following what they brought, we have created much harm. It is better we return to our roots, which were spiritual, and leave this materialistic path. One person, Saul, and his guilt, and his invention, is not enough to undo our ways. So go back. They were better. Our Christian experiment is over, and it failed. God is both God, and the forces of nature. Saul's letter to the Galatian's shows him respecting only one, the father. So now we must add back the mother. No more Syamsundar, we need Radha with Krishna. Interestingly, the Hare Krishna's, or Gaudiya Vaisnava's, worship Sri Caitanya, who they say is an incarnation of both Radha and Krishna, both, not one or the other. It is similar to Celi and Ceridwen, whom we have always thought of as a couple, both God and Goddess, working together, and never one without the other, and their way, their place, it is divine, and wonderful, and only through choosing spiritual valorous ways of honor, dignity, truth, sacrifice, etc., do we Celts believe we can go there, and so spoke the Latin Monks, whom we welcomed and taught many things to, and so spoke the Brahmins, whom we've met, and so told us of them our Greek brothers too, but only the Romans and Saul, they did, unknowingly without guilt, much harm to us. So speaks one from the clan of Kay, from the far North of Scotland, or the far West of Ireland; remembering our plant, the arrow reed stalk, known as Ngetal in Gaulic, our language, which produces what we and the hindus called as "Danu", or arrow; remembering our quote- "With a strong hand"; Remembering everything true and real, and the essence of all, which is that we are flanked tween Mars and Venus, and must often choose. Raising a strong hand, I proclaim, that this is what I say. -- Das Goravani , President 2852 Willamette St, #353 Eugene, Oregon, 97405 USA Voice: or <> Home of "Goravani Jyotish" Vedic Astrology Software , and more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2002 Report Share Posted July 18, 2002 At 11:52 AM 7/17/02 -0800, you wrote: >Coincidence- incidents that happen at the same time and have something >in common... > > > >This is fodder in the eyes of astrologers and "mystics" > > > >Actually, astrologers and mystics should simply be called "normal" and >everyone else "stupid". > > > >So.... > > > >Yes, there will be constant reminders of and rememberance of, past and >present genocides because that is the nature of the dance now, as it was >when the planets were here 59 years ago as many jews were daily >slaughtered in Europe. > > >The slaughter of the Indians more or less took place alot during the >previous period in the late 1800's. The trail of tears took place >during the previous one, roughly 60 years earlier. > >1820's >1880's >1940's >2000's > >This is fodder for the 59 yr Saturn/Jupiter cycle written about by me >and many others for years. > >Count the sixty (59) yr cycles, and pivot off the memorable 1940's as >your axiz and watch the genocides stack up. > >Right now it's happening. Do you know where? Does anyone, till it's too >late? > >For example: Common knowledge is "woman get raped". Fact in America: >More men are raped in prison by far. What's the "fu..ing" difference? >More is more. Getting but. fu..ed by large agressive men in a bodily >hole against one's will. > >Right now I'm listening to an album circulated amongst the IRA > >This particular song is singing about > > > >leave, and don't come back, don't even look back > > > >The martial sounds and such, I love it > > >You see, Venusian lust and greed lead us to abuse others. Abuse is not >forgotten. Vengence is as ugly as the original motive. And so we go on. >Only in final not caring, does a fine dance begin. Respect of space is >important. Respect of race and culture is important. There is plenty of >land, and the mountains and rivers divide. This is Gods way. > >Every great real spiritualist teaches this. > >Until then, we remain in this fixed dance, and right now, it's killing >time, and memory of killing time. This is not a coincidence, it's the >automated dance of ignorance screaming the same things at us over and >over and over. > > > >Now the song says: > > > >immortal and divine, >do you love your mother >like I love mine? > > > >it's a celtic thing....about earth > > > > >The only out, be yourself, for God. To thine own self be true, and to >God, be always a servant, do both, fully, and be free. There are no >countries where there is no greed, for only greed and the fear it causes >create borders, walls, locks and weapons. It's caring, or Rahu. Instead, >take Ketu, the non-caring. > > >The real celt is automatically an essential muslim, christian, jew, >budhist, person, (Amer.Ind.), and hindu, and likewise essentially always >each to all others. A soul is a soul, a body a body, something shared, >something unique, so it is always, acintya bedabed, one for all, and all >for one, and one for one, it is soul for soul, and the truth is the >guide to excellence, so let the discussion of truth, not sentiment, be >our food. > > >So I speak as a Celt, follower of Druidic knowledge, which is identical >to Brahminical, just a difference essence. We are, as say the Vedas, the >people of Saturn. White, lanky, gaunt looking, simplistic in some ways, >hard as nails in others. We know it's planned, but like Arjuna was >taught, only in actually willing and trying to fulfill one's dharma can >a person engage that restless mind in God's service, in a natural way >that will last. They the Brahmins call this karma yoga. Others call it >other things. It is the living breath of the upward path. > > >We always believed in reincarnation, sacrifice, charity, penence, and >valour. We were utterly spiritualistic in our lives. Then Rome >conquered, then Christianity came, with Latin, writing, history, and >they wiped out our faith, our religion, our priests, everything. > >In following what they brought, we have created much harm. It is better >we return to our roots, which were spiritual, and leave this >materialistic path. One person, Saul, and his guilt, and his invention, >is not enough to undo our ways. So go back. They were better. Our >Christian experiment is over, and it failed. > >God is both God, and the forces of nature. Saul's letter to the >Galatian's shows him respecting only one, the father. So now we must add >back the mother. No more Syamsundar, we need Radha with Krishna. > >Interestingly, the Hare Krishna's, or Gaudiya Vaisnava's, worship Sri >Caitanya, who they say is an incarnation of both Radha and Krishna, >both, not one or the other. > >It is similar to Celi and Ceridwen, whom we have always thought of as a >couple, both God and Goddess, working together, and never one without >the other, and their way, their place, it is divine, and wonderful, and >only through choosing spiritual valorous ways of honor, dignity, truth, >sacrifice, etc., do we Celts believe we can go there, and so spoke the >Latin Monks, whom we welcomed and taught many things to, and so spoke >the Brahmins, whom we've met, and so told us of them our Greek brothers >too, but only the Romans and Saul, they did, unknowingly without guilt, >much harm to us. > > >So speaks one from the clan of Kay, from the far North of Scotland, or >the far West of Ireland; remembering our plant, the arrow reed stalk, >known as Ngetal in Gaulic, our language, which produces what we and the >hindus called as "Danu", or arrow; remembering our quote- "With a strong >hand"; Remembering everything true and real, and the essence of all, >which is that we are flanked tween Mars and Venus, and must often >choose. Raising a strong hand, I proclaim, that this is what I say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >Das Goravani , President > >2852 Willamette St, #353 >Eugene, Oregon, 97405 >USA > >Voice: > >or > > <> > > >Home of "Goravani Jyotish" > >Vedic Astrology Software , and more... > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >: gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to ===================================== Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer Faculty Member, SJVC and ACVA visit <http://www.robertkoch.com> and, http://www.jyotishdiscovery.com or Ph: 541.318.0248 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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