DIVINE BIRTH

June 29, 2002

Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

-----

Dear Krsna,

Yes we are telepathic indeed, i have been thinking about the 60 diff years,

for the last few days, and am sure theres a way of deriving the actual year

using this understanding. Vaishak Month is said to be Vishnu's favorite..

not that all his avataras incarnated on that month thou.

More later, I wanto study the Chakras. Do you think he was born in a Kali

Chakra? He was born to pull the demons away from the sacrifices of animals,

and such..

Next question is whether to accept the Chakras as linear. If so, then Kali

Yuga could not have ended on 3102 BC.. Likely we just count the Jup-Sat

junctions in Aries.

Best wishes, Visti.

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"Dhira Krsna BCS" <Dhira.Krsna.BCS

Friday, June 28, 2002 7:20 PM

[GJ] DIVINE BIRTH

> Dear Visti,

>

> Thanks for your enlightening answer.

>

> >5) He had 1 child.

>

> He was married at the age of 16.

>

> >6) He was protected from the world, and all suffering was removed from

> >his eyes, hence very strong Subhakartari Yogas would be present.

> >

> >7) His Birthday is celebrated on Vaishak Poornima, and his birth was said

> >to be in the Lumbini(Rummindei) area. now part of Nepal. Can you find the

> >longitude and lattitude? i am unsuccesful at present.

>

> I have a book of Bhaktivinode Thakur, "Krsna Samhita" where he states the

> village of Kapilavastu as the birthplace of Gautama Buddha. It is in that

> area, I suppose, certainly it is part of Nepal now, and belonged to Gaya

> province before, hence the statement of Bhagavatam that He would be born

> in Gaya. The coordinates are 83E37, 26N43.

>

> According to another book, his year of birth is 563 BC or others say 623

> BC, note the difference of 60 years which is the Hindu cycle of naming the

> years. So I guess that should be known also. Have a try. I'll have a look

> also, but am in a hurry now, and I have no time anymore today. I'll see

> tomorrow.

>

> Yours,

> Dhira Krsna dasa

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> : gjlist-

>

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June 30, 2002

DEAR DHIRA KRSNA DASA,

Thanks for the information.What about the positions of rahu and

ketu? I wonder if anyone has software for making horoscopes for

BC? It would be good to see the exact horoscope.

REGARDS,

vivek.

On Sat, 29 Jun 2002 Dhira Krsna BCS wrote :

>Dear Vivek,

>

>Namaste.

>

> >If you have the chart of jesus,I would like to see it.

>

>This chart I have was given to me by a psychic. I only adjusted

>the date

>to match with the gregorian calendar, which was not in use at

>that time.

>The psychic told me 21st of March, yet that would correspond to

>April 6th,

>to match the julian calendar at that time. The year is certainly

>confirmed

>in the "Second Book of Acts" written by the apostle Luke, who

>also wrote a

>very historically accurate Gospel.

>

>So here is the chart: April 6th, -2 (3 BC) at 5:37 am (just

>before dawn),

>LMT 2:21, 35E13, 31N43.

>

>Ascendant should be Aries, with Mars, Venus, Jupiter and Sun

>exalted. Moon

>hemmed in by malefics in Capricorn gives death by hanging, and

>Jupiter

>exalted in Arudha lagna in Cancer made him a teacher of the

>masses. Note

>that Mars is in Devalokamsa, making him a powerful personality.

>

>Please let me know what are your observations.

>

>Yours,

>Dhira Krsna dasa

>

>Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

>:

>gjlist-

>

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July 1, 2002

Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

Dear Krsna,

Comments bellow.

> Yes, regarding the telepathy I checked your chart and saw that our Suns,>

Moons and Saturns are opposite, Rahu-Ketu and Mercury in trines, your> lagna is

my AL and there are some similar things in Navamsa as well, e.g.> Moon in the

same sign in Aquarius. You have Jupiter and Mercury in 12th> house, I also have

Mercury in 12th house, so that makes us quite> communicative.

Your summary of our abilities(navamsa), general activities(rasi) and compatibility, looks good.

> I do not think that he was born in a Kali Chakra, rather judging from the>

process of salvation He gave, namely meditation on the void, or nirvana, I>

would accept it was a Satya Chakra. Or at least it must have been a>

Treta-chakra, since the process for worship in the Treta-yuga is> sacrifices.

Good points. I cannot agree on Krta Chakra thou, but Treta Chakra is a good

contender. Krishna was born in dwapara Chakra and died in Kali chakra, after

which the Kali Yuga started.. so maybe Buddha was born before the Yuga he was

to influence.

> However, I do think that this must have been a greater cycle> of Treta. Here

is how I understand the Chakras: we know one year of the> demigods is 360 of

our human years. Thus I have a doubt on the existence> of the smallest chakra

as being 120 years.

I must admit, that sometimes i find you bringing some very mind-boggling ideas.

Vishnu Purana gives the exact messure of time, in which the various yugas are

given the following human years alloted:

Kritayuga measures 1728000 years

Tretayuga spans 1296000 years

Dwaaparayuga is of 824000 years

Kaliyuga would be for 432000 years

I don't question Parasara, hence i accept the calculations derived therefrom.

I believe Manu states that; 1 Kali Yuga is equal to; 1200 years.. of the gods.

This was accepted by Sri Yukteswar, and everyone else, except Yukteswar

considered these as years of us humans and not that of the gods.

Either way they agree that; 120+240+360+480=1200 years. This doesn't coincide

with the messurement of 360 years, so its clearly not indicated by the

shastras.

So the Aaroha and Avaroha cycles of Jupiter and Saturn form 1 Kali Chakra of 120 years.

> The Chakras must be linear, and indeed, the Kali-Yuga cannot have started> in

3102 BC. The cycle of 60 years, counted as years of 360 days, coincides> more

or less with 59 solar years. However, the years are named after the> solar

years, and note that there are 2 subha-krit years in this cycle.> Why? In order

to match up with the solar cycle of 60 years. Note also that> 60 cycles of these

60 years, or 3600 solar years is equal to 10 chakras of> 360 years, or a full

cycle of krta-treta-dvapara-kali chakras. Therefore I> accept the Hebrew

calendar as accurate. FYI, the Hebrew calendar has been> accepted long ago

according to the calendar in use in India at that time> and is also based on

the Moon along with solar calculations. And it has> never been changed.

I have no idea about the hebrew calendar, but nor do i see any reason to adopt

it, with the clear shastric indices given before.

Question was rather, whether to count Jup-Sat cojunctions, or to merely count

linear. Jup and Sat were said to be conjunct at 0 degrees of aries at the

begining of Kali Yuga, which was accepted as 3102 BC.

> As for the Jup-Sat conjunctions, there are 3 such conjunctions happening>

during the 60 year cycle, and note they are happening each time somewhat> in

trines to the previous one. In that way, 3 of these conjunctions form> the

cycle of 60 years, and 6 of them form an aroha-avaroha cycle, now> again 6 of

the 60 years cycles form an aroha-avaroha chakra of 360 years,> and 120 years

is only one of the trines, just like the zodiac is divided> into 3 parts of

120°.> > What do you think?

I accept what Manu and Parasara have taught, being that they are the exact source of this knowledge.

Achyuta Dasa relied on the exact same knowledge. I have attached an article by

Sanjay Rath on the same, wherein the exact prediction by Achyuta Dasa was

given.

So if you agree, we're back to the first question; Which Chakra was Buddha born,

and which Samvatsara?

Best wishes, Visti.

> Yours,> Dhira Krsna dasa> > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om

Tat Sat> : gjlist->

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[vedic astrology] BRAHMA VIDYA

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BRAHMA VIDYA

BY SANJAY RATH

CHAKRA

The basic quantum of time is 120 years which is the Param Ayus of the

Human birth (Parasara gives the exact figure of 120 Years & 5 days,

but we stick to the round figure of 120 years for the preliminary

understanding).

As explained earlier, this is also two cycles (Aaroha or increasing

and Avaroha or decreasing quality of time) of Jupiter & Saturn of 60

years each.

This is also a Kali (literally ONE) Chakra. Dwapara( Literally TWO)

Chakra is 240 Years, Treta(literally THREE) Chakra is 360 Years and

Kreta(literally FOUR) Chakra is 480 Years.

MAHACHAKRA

By adding all these four Chakra, we get a Maha Chakra of 1200 Years.

(120+240+360+480=1200). Thus, Kali (ONE) Maha Chakra is 1200 Years,

Dwapara (TWO) MahaChakra is 2400 years, Treta (THREE) Mahachakra is

3600 years and Kreta (FOUR) Mahachakra is 4800 years.

DAIVACHAKRA

By adding all these four Mahachakra, we get a Daivachakra of 12000

Years. (1200+2400+3600+4800=12000). As the name implies, the Daiva

indicates the luminous ones (Sun & Moon) and we again come to the

Ahoratra (Hora) concept where we have one Aaroha (increasing) cycle

and one Avaroha (decreasing) cycle of 12000 years each to give the

period of 24,000 years.

YUGA

Thereafter, 18 Ahoratra of the Daivachakra or 36 Daivachakra form a

Yuga of 4,32,000 Years. This number is based on the Drekkana Division

ruled by the Maharishi's (3x12=36). Thus, Kali (ONE) Yuga is 4,32,000

Years, Dwapara (TWO) Yuga is 8,64,000 years, Treta (THREE) Yuga is

12,96,000 years and Kreta (FOUR) Yuga is 17,28,000 years.

PADA

Trini-pada-vichakrame Vinur-Gopa-adabhyo (.) Atho Dharmani dharayan

(.) Rig Veda

The spiritual meaning (Veda) of this Gayatri from the Rig Veda can be

studied from the works of Sri Dayananda Saraswati & Aurobindo. I can

only attempt one lower level (Vedanga) Jyotish interpretation where "

The Bha-Chakra or Zodiac is divided into three parts called the Nabhi

(occuring in the Sandhi (junction) between the Water and Fire signs).

These are the Vishnu-Nabhi and Brahma (Gopa) Nabhi at the two levels

of Daivachakra and Chakra respectively. It is on the basis of this

inviolable principle that Dharma is established."

On the basis of this we can define two Pada. First, on the basis of

the Vishnu Nabhi, is the Daiva-Pada where three Daivachakra are

included to give 36,000 Years. Since at this level, Vishnu is one of

the 12 Aditya's (Sun's or Diva or Daiva), the 12 Aditya's give 12

Daiva-Pada's of 36,000 years each which is equal to one yuga (36,000

x 12 = 4,32,000 years). Second, on the

basis of the Brahma Nabhi, is the Chakra-Pada where three Chakra's of

120 years each are included to form a Daiva-Varsha or the popularly

known "Year of the Gods" of 360 years. Thus, Kali (ONE) Yuga is 1200

Daiva-Varsha, Dwapara (TWO) Yuga is 2400 Daiva-Varsha, Treta (THREE)

Yuga is 3600 Daiva-Varsha and Kreta (FOUR) Yuga is 4800 Daiva-Varsha .

[From here we use Daiva-Varsha or "Year of the Gods" each equalling

360 earth years as the standard quantum of time].

MAHAYUGA

By adding all these four Yuga, we get a Maha Yuga of 12000 Daiva-

Varsha or 4,320,000 Earth years. (1200+2400+3600+4800=12000).

KALPA

One thousand Mahayuga are equal to one Kalpa. Thus, the Kalpa is the

basic Vedic Cosmic cycle equal to 12,000,000 Daiva Varsha or

4,320,000,000 Earth years. This is also called the "Day of Brahma".

The "Night of Brahma" is of equal length to the "Day of Brahma".

Thus, the Ahoratra (Day & Night) of

Brahma is 24 Million Daiva-Varsha or 8,640 Million earth Years. The

Year of Brahma is 360 such days & nights thereby equal to 8640

Million Daiva-Varsha or 3,110,400 Million Earth years (or say 3.11

Trillion Earth Years).

The Life of Brahma is said to be 100 such years of Brahma and is

8,64,000 Million Daiva Varsha or 311,040,000 Million Earth years (or

say 311 Trillion Earth years). Thereafter Nirvikalpa Pralaya

(complete dissolution of all worlds) occurs followed by the creation

of another Brahma from the Navel of Narayana.

MANVANTARA

Material creation is the natural activity of Brahma during the Diva-

kalpa (Day of Brahma)and material dissolution called Naimittika

Pralaya (whereby the entire Universe is withdrawn into Him where it

exists as a potentiality) followed by sleep is the activity in Ratri-

kalpa (Night of Brahma).

Brahma creates these material worlds due to yoga (union) with all

the "Rasa's".

[The spiritual concept (Veda) of all the Rasa's is "Sa-Rasa-Wati" or

the Divine Mother "Saraswati" whereas the Jyotish concept (Vedanga)

is of the seven Rasa's (of the Saptamsa or D-7 Chart) repeating in

two cycles of odd and even signs thereby causing fourteen yoga's of

Brahma and Saraswati.

These seven Rasa's come from the seven planets from Sun to Saturn

having physical bodies and Rahu & Ketu are excluded as they do not

have any material body].

Thus, each Manvantara, which is the Yoga of Brahma with one of the

Rasa's, is for one-fourteenth the period of the Kalpa which is

approximately 71 Mahayuga's. The period of a Manvantara equal to

852,000 Daiva-Varsha (i.e 71x12000= 852,000) or 306,720,000 Earth

years. Fourteen such Manvantara give the total period of 119,288,000

Daiva Varsha (i.e. 14x 852,000= 119,228,000)or 4,294,080,000 Earth

years whereas that of the Kalpa is 12,000,000 Daiva Varsha or

4,320,000,000 Earth years. This leaves a gap of 72,000 Daiva-varsha

between the 14 Manvantara. There are twelve gaps or period of

dissolution of the ANIMATE WORLD (the INANIMATE WORLD continues to

exist as Brahma is awake) between these fourteen Manvantara with each

gap equal to

6000 Diva-varsha. Manu is the progenitor of the human race and a Manu

appears at the begining of each Manvantara. We are presently, in the

seventh Manvantara of the Kalpa started by Manu Vaivasvata. Thus, he

is our penultimate forefather as far as this material existence is

concerned.

DOOMSDAY OR GOLDEN AGE FROM 2000 AD

There is no doom. Sri Achyutu Dasa the direct disciple of Sri Sri

ChaitanyaMahaprabhu has stated in a stanza about India that "FROM

13OO AD TO 2000 AD INDIA SHALL SUFFER DASATWA OR BONDAGE. TOWARDS THE

END, THIS WILL BEGIN TO BREAK AND FROM 2000 AD SATYA SANATANA WILL BE

ESTABLISHED." Thus, when we are going to see a very glorious phase

beginning 2000 AD, I cannot agree with those predictions about Doom.

Later Sri Achyuta adds that this will be done by the strength or

people of Baladeva (Sri Balaram, the elder brother of Bhagawan). Now,

we can only speculate here.

EPILOGUE

There seems to be some confusion about understanding of the Yuga

cycles. This is so because of the lack of appreciation of

the "Sankalpha" done at the begining of the prayers. The day of

Brahma is called "Kalpha" from which the word "Sankalpha" is derived.

Kalpha also means Lagna. Hence Brahma controls longevity. In the day

there is "Leela" and in the Night, the universe is withdrawn and

exists as a potentiality. This Kalpha is about 4320 Million years and

360 such Brahma days make a Brahma Year. Now, Brahma's life is for

100 such years (followed by a dissolution called Prakrittika

Mahapralaya) and it is believed that Brahma is in His 51st Year.

The Kalpha is divided into 14 Manvantaras of which we are in the 7th

called Manu Vaivasvata. Each Manvantara is for 306,720,000 years with

gaps between the manvantara's in any Kalpha. Each Manvantara is

further subdivided into 71 Mahayuga (approx.) as 1000 Mahayuga make

one Kalpha. Each Mahayuga is further divided into four Yuga's called

Krta (Four), Treta (Three), Dvapara (Two) and Kali (One) of lengths

4800, 3600, 2400 and 1200 "YEARS OF THE GODS". Here the years of the

Gods refers to the Sun as Deva is derived from Diva (Light) and the

Sun is also called Divakara. THIS IS WHERE THE ERROR CREEPS IN I.E.

THE INTERPRETATION OF THE TERM "YEAR OF THE GODS". WHILE THIS IS

GENERALLY ACCEPTED AS THE MOTION OF THE SUN IN ONE DAY, SOME HAVE

EQUATED THIS TO ONE YEAR OF HUMAN LIFE. Thus, they misrepresent the

periods as 4800, 3600, 2400 and 1200 human years instead.

The Manu Smriti has stated that "A DAY OF THE GODS IS EQUAL TO A YEAR

IN HUMAN LIFE" . This is also the reason why I have been requesting

the Software programmers to calculate the dasa-antar and other

smaller periods correctly on the basis of the Actual solar transit of

360 Degrees with fluctuations in one year instead of interpolating on

the figure of 365.25 days as a lot of approximation creeps in.

Another blunder is to equate the year of the Gods blindly to 360

human years on the approximate basis of 1 Degree transit of the Sun

per day when we know this to be 365.25 solar days This is how another

doubt of 360 days instead of 365.25 days per year has crept in.

START OF KALI

The dating of the Kali yuga is the vexed question. Tradition accepts

this as 3102 BC, whereas others relying on the other factors give 900

BC or 600 BCetc. How do we resolve this?

MY VIEWS/ WISDOM OF SRI ACHYUTA DASA

Not going into other considerations, the 60 Year cycle of Jupiter and

Saturn is considered very significant. The Yuga of Kali of 1200 Years

of the Gods can be sub-divided into four sub-periods of 480, 360, 240

and 120 years of the Gods. WE can again divide this into sub-sub-

periods...and so on. Now, Two such cycles of Jupiter-Saturn

conjunction in Aries maybe called a "Chakra" with the first cycle

called as Avaroha and the second as Aaroha. Thus the smallest measure

of quality of time or "Chakra" is 120 solar years.

These Chakras can again be grouped as Kreta (Four Chakra), Treta

(three Chakra), Dvapara (Two Chakra) and Kali (one Chakra) having

periods of 480,360, 240 and 120 solar years each and the MahaChakra

will be for 1200 solar years. According to Sri Achyuta Dasa,

the "Dasatwa (Bondage) of India ends in 2000 AD" showing that the

Kali Chakra of 120 years that started in 1880 AD is to end in 2000

AD when Jupiter & Saturn are to conjoin in Aries again. Thus, this

MahaChakra must have started 1200 years back in 800 AD.

Further, the KretaChakra should have been from 800 AD to 1280 AD and

during this period the best temples were built and the finest

literature produced. This was the golden age of India. After this,

TretaChakra was from 1280 to 1640 AD during which we find that Satwa

declines and strife increases. The Dasatva (Bondage) of India begins

as invaders came to rule and Muslim dynasty's are set up in India.

DvaparaChakra was from 1640 to 1880 when the British directly ruled

India under the Crown. With the advent of KaliChakra (1880 to 2000

AD), the fight for freedom begins in the form of revival of religion

etc. Strife is at its highest and has gone to the villages as well.

The main theme in India, the most spiritual Land, is still peace or a

peaceful approach to freedom in the Aaroha (Increasing) portion of 60

years (1880 to 1940 AD) whereas in the Avaroha portion 1940 to 2000

AD even Mahatma Gandhi takes a war-like posture in the Quit India

resolution of 1942.

The KaliChakra (1880 to 2000 AD) has seen the development of the most

powerful weapons for mass destruction as well as their use. Next

year, the entire cycle changes and another MahaChakra of 1200 Years

begins with a KretaChakra (2000 to 2480 AD) and once again, the

temples will be built, literature will flourish and a lot of good

will happen on this planet. Sri Achyuta Dasa, the pride of the

Tradition of Orissa and the Direct Disciple of Sri Chaitanya

Mahaprabhu has left such brilliant Gems in Oriya Prose and I hope to

translate them properly for the benefit of all jyotish.

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July 3, 2002

Dear Visti

Just some clarifications.

you

<<Good points. I cannot agree on Krta Chakra thou, but Treta Chakra is a good

contender. Krishna was born in dwapara Chakra and died in Kali chakra, after

which the Kali Yuga started.. so maybe Buddha was born before the Yuga he was

to influence>>

me

Krishna was born (appeared) and died (dissapeared) in Dwapara Yuga. Kali Yuga

could not start until Krishna left this planet. Maybe or perhaps are

especulative toughts which can be corrected with Vedic information. The Vedic

tradition says that Bhudha appeared in Kali yuga.

you

<<

I don't question Parasara, hence i accept the calculations derived therefrom.

I believe Manu states that; 1 Kali Yuga is equal to; 1200 years.. of the gods.

This was accepted by Sri Yukteswar, and everyone else, except Yukteswar

considered these as years of us humans and not that of the gods.>>

me

Very good point Visti. In fact although i do agree with Sri Yukteswar's

spiritual pursuit, i do not agree with his calculations of Vedic ages.

Dhira Krishna prabhu you have said

<< The Chakras must be linear, and indeed, the Kali-Yuga cannot have started in

3102 BC>>

Please read some of Cremo's articles in which he explains how and why the Yugas

are cyclic and not linear like you think.

And in regard to the beginning of Kali Yuga, it is a matter that have been

already analized by competent Vedic astronomers-astrologers, based on the

teachings of past masters as Visti has said

Visti said

<<I accept what Manu and Parasara have taught, being that they are the exact

source of this knowledge.

Achyuta Dasa relied on the exact same knowledge. I have attached an article by

Sanjay Rath on the same, wherein the exact prediction by Achyuta Dasa was

given.>>

Srila Prabhupada has elaborated in the purport of his Bhagavad Gita As It Is, Chapter 4, text 1

"At the present moment we have just passed through five thousand years of the

Kali-yuga, which lasts 432,000 years. Before this there was Dvapara-yuga

(800,000 years), and before that there was Treta-yuga (1,200,000 years). Thus,

some 2,005,000 years ago, Manu spoke the Bhagavad-gita to his disciple and son

Maharaja Iksvaku, the king of this planet earth. The age of the current Manu is

calculated to last some 305,300,000 years, of which 120,400,000 have passed."

The life of a Manu is beyond our human understanding, and here we are told that

the present Manu appeared some 120 million years ago. Therefore, Manu's

teachings are very important to us.

And by the way, the alternative news claim that some Russians have found some

stones where a 3 dimensional map of the earth has been printed on it, and the

age of those stones has been calculated to be some 120 million years old, that

means that whoever did those maps had a fresh knowledge given by Manu.

Parasara is one of the 18 fathers of Vedic astrology and he compiled some of the

knowledge imparted by Manu.

Achyuta Dasa is a direct disciple of Lord Chaitanya in the 16 century, and he

started a branch of Vedic astrology, following the oral and writing lessons of

previous great masters like Parasara and Manu. And Sanjay Rath is a direct

disciple of the Vedic astrology school initiated by Achyuta Dasa.

Best wishes

Natabara Das

..

July 3, 2002

Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

-------------------------

Dear Natabara,

One correction.

The Word "Chakra" refers to 2x 60 year cycles, namely 120 years.

There are many Chakras, Maha Chakra, Daiva Chakras and etc, in 1 Yuga.

Krta/Satya Chakra; 480

Treta Chakra; 360

Dwapara Chakra; 240

Kali Chakra; 120

Best wishes, Visti.

-

natabara

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Wednesday, July 03, 2002 9:34 AM

Re: [GJ] DIVINE BIRTH

Dear Visti

Just some clarifications.

you

<<Good points. I cannot agree on Krta Chakra thou, but Treta Chakra is a good

contender. Krishna was born in dwapara Chakra and died in Kali chakra, after

which the Kali Yuga started.. so maybe Buddha was born before the Yuga he was

to influence>>

me

Krishna was born (appeared) and died (dissapeared) in Dwapara Yuga. Kali Yuga

could not start until Krishna left this planet. Maybe or perhaps are

especulative toughts which can be corrected with Vedic information. The Vedic

tradition says that Bhudha appeared in Kali yuga.

you

<< I don't question Parasara, hence i accept the calculations derived therefrom.