Guest guest Posted July 25, 2002 Report Share Posted July 25, 2002 Cynthia, The man who was born in Oklahoma, OK had a yoga for insanity. Also, the Sun in the 1st house with Saturn and Mars combust made the yoga hard to bear. Thus, he committed suicide. I'm still trying to decipher the chart of the guy from Dallas, TX. Regards, John R. --- cynthia novak <c.a.novak wrote: > Sure, I also have the data for an ayurvedic > physician who took his life too. > As I recall, his transits were more obvious, but his > dear friend told me he > also struggled to stay here and that suicide was a > long-time seduction for > him. > > > Subject #1 Man 2-13 1951 7:56pm Dallas TX (I > believed he died in > November 7 years ago, but it might have been 8) > > > Subject #2 Man 1-22-1932 7:15am Oklahoma City > OK If memory serves me > he died in the spring 1999 > > Subject #3 woman 2-23-1965 9:25am Fort Belvoir > (MD?) EST She is still > living and in a nice relationship, she told me that > she had first wanted to > take her life when she was 13. She has a lot of > serious health problems with > muscles and connective tissue. I believe her > relationship really helped > keep her here. > > c > - > "John Rasonabe" <jr_esq > <gjlist> > Tuesday, July 23, 2002 11:32 AM > Re: [GJ] the act of dying.. > > > > Cynthia, > > > > Can you post the guy's birth details? We're > wondering > > if Saturn or Rahu contributed to his death. > > > > Regards, > > > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > --- cynthia novak <c.a.novak > wrote: > > > Dear All > > > This is not meant to upset anyone or to propose > a > > > belief system. That > > > caveat said I would like to share an experience > > > because it was far more than > > > a dream. > > > > > > Some years ago I had a client who committed > suicide. > > > I had referred him to > > > a therapist to whom he had been going regularly. > > > Then, shortly before the > > > act, I saw him at a public event. I was doing > > > little sessions and he came > > > for one. I tried to reassure him, but time was > > > short and well, I frankly > > > was frustrated with him he had so much in so > many > > > areas, why could he not > > > see it! > > > > > > Several weeks later I heard he had killed > himself. > > > I heard not details but > > > I went into a dark state wondering why I had > been so > > > frustrated. Why had I > > > not made certain he was seeing a shrink. Why > did I > > > not know the signs of > > > his break down. > > > > > > I struggled with this for at least 10 days. One > > > morning I was in the > > > in-between-state. The "dream" had him walk into > a > > > room where I stood. He > > > took me by the hand and we sat together on a > settee. > > > He was holding a > > > revolver and he had a gunshot wound on the side > of > > > his head. He showed me > > > where to place it on the side of my head and I > > > pulled the trigger. Soon I > > > felt the greatest sense of ecstasy that great > sex > > > can only mimic. I felt > > > all of my energy spilling out into a great > stream > > > and then sea of life. It > > > was fantastic! > > > > > > He sat there smiling and said "so you can know." > I > > > looked around and saw > > > many other with similar wounds and realized that > > > there is a group who come > > > into this life with this as the end. It isn't > that > > > they have so little, it > > > is that they know where they are going and can > only > > > linger with us so long. > > > > > > I have no desire nor do I feel seduced to end my > > > life so spare the lectures > > > on karma, I'm simply sharing the experience that > I > > > was given so you can know > > > too. > > > > > > Oh, a couple of years later a bumped into > another > > > astrologer who told the > > > story of a male client who came in and whose > signs > > > she read clearly. She > > > called and made him an apt. with a psychiatrist. > He > > > went, was evaluated and > > > agreed to go in for residential treatment. He > took > > > his dog to the vet to be > > > boarded then went home and took his life. It was > the > > > same man. > > > > > > cynthia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om > Tat > > > Sat > > > : > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Health - Feel better, live better > > http://health. > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > Sat > > : > gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > Sat > : > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Health - Feel better, live better http://health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2002 Report Share Posted July 25, 2002 Dear John and Cynthia John maybe you could state the yoga for insanity in the chart of the man from Oklahoma . > > I'm still trying to decipher the chart of the guy from > Dallas, TX. > > Ketu closely afflicts the ascendent .He has Mars Rahu Venus Jupiter closely conjunct in the 7th .With 1st in the 7th I suspect he tried to find himself in relationships but they ended up being very bad and unsatisfying for him ..Mars Rahu is a combination for violence after frustration . Hope this helps Nicholas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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