Guest guest Posted August 2, 2002 Report Share Posted August 2, 2002 hi everyone, I have attached the horoscope of swami Vivekananda. Let's discuss it. yours, vivek. ______________________ Want to sell your car? advertise on Autos Classifieds. It's Free!! visit http://in.autos. Attachment: (application/msword) Swami Vivekananda.doc [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2002 Report Share Posted August 3, 2002 Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya Dear Vivek, Thats a different chart you use. Dr Raman & I use Dhanus Lagna, Vrischika Navamsa lagana. The difference is I use Lahiri to get Sun as AK in lagna & he used Raman ayanamsa to get Sun as Darakaraka in 2nd. With best wishes Sanjay Rath http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> vivek [keviv90] Saturday, August 03, 2002 10:22 AM gjlist [GJ] Swami Vivekananda's horoscope hi everyone, I have attached the horoscope of swami Vivekananda. Let's discuss it. yours, vivek. ______________________ Want to sell your car? advertise on Autos Classifieds. It's Free!! visit http://in.autos. Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat : gjlist- Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2002 Report Share Posted August 3, 2002 Vyam VedaVyasaaya Namah Dear Robyn, The dasamsa shows our occupation. A saintly person does saintly work. Their degree of spirituality, is seen from the Vimsamsa. Best wishes, Visti. - "Robyn" <resimpson (AT) worldonline (DOT) co.za> <gjlist> Saturday, August 03, 2002 10:18 PM Re: [GJ] Swami Vivekananda's horoscope > Hi Vivek,> > I am all for some interesting discussion on Jyotish. Where should we start> on this chart? I need to get back into my studies after all this website> work. Sanjay Rath has an excellent article on the necessity of analysing the> Dasamsa chart to discover the sainthood of the person. I think I am going to> start with the Dasamsa, do you agree?> > Yours> Robyn> > > Ramesvari Devi> www.jyotishdiscovery.com> > -> "vivek" <keviv90 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> <gjlist>> Saturday, August 03, 2002 3:52 AM> [GJ] Swami Vivekananda's horoscope> > > > hi everyone,> > I have attached the horoscope of swami Vivekananda.> > Let's discuss it.> > yours,> > vivek.> >> > ______________________> > Want to sell your car? advertise on Autos Classifieds. It's Free!!> > visit http://in.autos.> >> >> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat> > : gjlist-> > http://www.goravani.com> >> >> > Your use of is subject to > >> >> > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat> To , send an email to: gjlist-> http://www.goravani.com> > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2002 Report Share Posted August 3, 2002 Hi Vivek, I am all for some interesting discussion on Jyotish. Where should we start on this chart? I need to get back into my studies after all this website work. Sanjay Rath has an excellent article on the necessity of analysing the Dasamsa chart to discover the sainthood of the person. I think I am going to start with the Dasamsa, do you agree? Yours Robyn Ramesvari Devi www.jyotishdiscovery.com - "vivek" <keviv90 <gjlist> Saturday, August 03, 2002 3:52 AM [GJ] Swami Vivekananda's horoscope > hi everyone, > I have attached the horoscope of swami Vivekananda. > Let's discuss it. > yours, > vivek. > > ______________________ > Want to sell your car? advertise on Autos Classifieds. It's Free!! > visit http://in.autos. > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2002 Report Share Posted August 3, 2002 Dear Visti, Thanks for that elucidation. However, I would like to quote from Pundit Rath's introduction to his article on the JD website on which I based my reasoning for the dasamsa. "DASAMSA OF THE BLESSED BIRTHSEVERY SAINT HAD A PAST AND EVERY SINNER A FUTURE' INTRODUCTIONSelf-realisation and the search for the Ultimate Truth are described as Adhyatma Yoga. Karma Yogi’s always strive for perfection in whatever they do and it is this perfection which is a manifestation of Divinity for the Lord is perfect. Maharishi Parasara advises the use of the Vimsamsa (D – 20 chart) for examining Upasana (worship). However, we are not attempting to examine individual spiritual development, but instead, are trying to identify the karma (action or deeds) through which this will manifest. The Dasamsa (one-tenth division) which delves into the karma of the horoscope, is an important tool to examine the extent and direction of the Adhyatma Yoga (action for spiritual attainments). The proverb " Every Saint has a past and every sinner a future " aptly describes the scope to include every individual horoscope. However, such a vast scope would make the study cumbersome and in order to make the study more meaningful it is necessary to restrict the scope to those horoscopes where religiosity is the predominant feature. The Arthatrikona and the 4th & 7th houses determine profession. Aspects on the tenth, and the Mokshtrikona (4th, 8th & 12th) should also be considered. Ketu, being the natural Mokshkarak is the Karyesha. Ketu influenced by Saturn produces a Tapasvi or one who will strive for spiritual attainments. This could be by conjunction / aspect or by the placement of Ketu in Capricorn Dasamsa which is ruled by Saturn and is also the natural karma house. The sun indicates temples, institution and produces leadership qualities while Jupiter the divine Teacher and rules Dhi (intelligence). The readers may like to have a copy of Dr. BV Raman’s " Notable Horoscope " in hand for ready reference. The charts used in this article are corrected to Chitrapaksh Ayanamsa." This is why I suggested the dasamsa and not the vimsamsa in this case because in my books, Swami Vivekananda truly carried the Santana Dharma throughout the world on his dharmic mission. Best wishes Ramesvari Deviwww.jyotishdiscovery.com - Visti Larsen gjlist Saturday, August 03, 2002 4:47 PM Re: [GJ] Swami Vivekananda's horoscope Vyam VedaVyasaaya Namah Dear Robyn, The dasamsa shows our occupation. A saintly person does saintly work. Their degree of spirituality, is seen from the Vimsamsa. Best wishes, Visti. - "Robyn" <resimpson (AT) worldonline (DOT) co.za> <gjlist> Saturday, August 03, 2002 10:18 PM Re: [GJ] Swami Vivekananda's horoscope > Hi Vivek,> > I am all for some interesting discussion on Jyotish. Where should we start> on this chart? I need to get back into my studies after all this website> work. Sanjay Rath has an excellent article on the necessity of analysing the> Dasamsa chart to discover the sainthood of the person. I think I am going to> start with the Dasamsa, do you agree?> > Yours> Robyn> > > Ramesvari Devi> www.jyotishdiscovery.com> > -> "vivek" <keviv90 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> <gjlist>> Saturday, August 03, 2002 3:52 AM> [GJ] Swami Vivekananda's horoscope> > > > hi everyone,> > I have attached the horoscope of swami Vivekananda.> > Let's discuss it.> > yours,> > vivek.> >> > ______________________> > Want to sell your car? advertise on Autos Classifieds. It's Free!!> > visit http://in.autos.> >> >> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat> > : gjlist-> > http://www.goravani.com> >> >> > Your use of is subject to > >> >> > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat> To , send an email to: gjlist-> http://www.goravani.com> > > Your use of is subject to > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo , send an email to: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2002 Report Share Posted August 4, 2002 Dear Visti & Robyn, I believe it is the natal chart that dominates.Divisional charts only assist in reading traits of a particular house.For example,for occupation--you should read tenth house in natal chart along with Dasamsa chart.For spirituality,the ninth house in natal chart is the main factor.Swami Vivekananda's chart is not strong on spirituality. yours truly, vivek. --- Visti Larsen <vishnu wrote: > Vyam VedaVyasaaya Namah > > -- > > Dear Robyn, > The dasamsa shows our occupation. A saintly person > does saintly work. > Their degree of spirituality, is seen from the > Vimsamsa. > Best wishes, Visti. > > - > "Robyn" <resimpson > <gjlist> > Saturday, August 03, 2002 10:18 PM > Re: [GJ] Swami Vivekananda's horoscope > > > > Hi Vivek, > > > > I am all for some interesting discussion on > Jyotish. Where should we start > > on this chart? I need to get back into my studies > after all this website > > work. Sanjay Rath has an excellent article on the > necessity of analysing the > > Dasamsa chart to discover the sainthood of the > person. I think I am going to > > start with the Dasamsa, do you agree? > > > > Yours > > Robyn > > > > > > Ramesvari Devi > > www.jyotishdiscovery.com > > > > - > > "vivek" <keviv90 > > <gjlist> > > Saturday, August 03, 2002 3:52 AM > > [GJ] Swami Vivekananda's horoscope > > > > > > > hi everyone, > > > I have attached the horoscope of swami > Vivekananda. > > > Let's discuss it. > > > yours, > > > vivek. > > > > > > > ______________________ > > > Want to sell your car? advertise on Autos > Classifieds. It's Free!! > > > visit http://in.autos. > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om > Tat Sat > > > : > gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > Sat > > : > gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > ______________________ Want to sell your car? advertise on Autos Classifieds. It's Free!! visit http://in.autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2002 Report Share Posted August 5, 2002 dear vivek it seems that you have not done any medation and read any of his books and not understand the great swami,it is really bad on you to say that.you should judge people whaen you have walked in their path for certain period of time.it has been a really sad part on your side to say such big things for siuch a great man and it seems really big stupidity on your part to say that only 9 th house is important there aare nmany other factors to be looked into accound deepak singh On Mon, 05 Aug 2002 vivek wrote : >Dear Visti & Robyn, >I believe it is the natal chart that >dominates.Divisional charts only assist in reading >traits of a particular house.For example,for >occupation--you should read tenth house in natal chart >along with Dasamsa chart.For spirituality,the ninth >house in natal chart is the main factor.Swami >Vivekananda's chart is not strong on spirituality. > >yours truly, >vivek. --- Visti Larsen ><vishnu wrote: > Vyam VedaVyasaaya Namah > > > > >-\ - > > > > Dear Robyn, > > The dasamsa shows our occupation. A saintly person > > does saintly work. > > Their degree of spirituality, is seen from the > > Vimsamsa. > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > - > > "Robyn" <resimpson > > <gjlist> > > Saturday, August 03, 2002 10:18 PM > > Re: [GJ] Swami Vivekananda's horoscope > > > > > > > Hi Vivek, > > > > > > I am all for some interesting discussion on > > Jyotish. Where should we start > > > on this chart? I need to get back into my studies > > after all this website > > > work. Sanjay Rath has an excellent article on the > > necessity of analysing the > > > Dasamsa chart to discover the sainthood of the > > person. I think I am going to > > > start with the Dasamsa, do you agree? > > > > > > Yours > > > Robyn > > > > > > > > > Ramesvari Devi > > > www.jyotishdiscovery.com > > > > > > - > > > "vivek" <keviv90 > > > <gjlist> > > > Saturday, August 03, 2002 3:52 AM > > > [GJ] Swami Vivekananda's horoscope > > > > > > > > > > hi everyone, > > > > I have attached the horoscope of swami > > Vivekananda. > > > > Let's discuss it. > > > > yours, > > > > vivek. > > > > > > > > > > >______________________ > > > > Want to sell your car? advertise on Autos > > Classifieds. It's Free!! > > > > visit http://in.autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om > > Tat Sat > > > > : > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > > Sat > > > : > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >______________________ >Want to sell your car? advertise on Autos Classifieds. It's >Free!! > visit http://in.autos. > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >: >gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > ________ Give your Company an email address like ravi @ ravi-exports.com. Sign up for Rediffmail Pro today! Know more. http://www.rediffmailpro.com/signup/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2002 Report Share Posted August 5, 2002 Dear Vivek, Well, at least this is starting a Jyotish discussion but could we get back to the charts and in particular, Visti, the correction of birth time as pointed out by Sanjay Rath. Vivek, I would like to refer you to an article I posted recently on divisional charts by one of senior gurus, Robert Koch, on the JD website on the importance of the divisional charts. For myself, I found this highly illuminating regarding the importance of the divisional charts particuarly in relation to a person such as Swami Vivekananda. I am really keen to hear your interpretation of what makes you think he does not have indications in his chart of high spirituality. Could you substantiate that claim please using solid Jyotish? Best wishes Ramesvari Devi www.jyotishdiscovery.com - "vivek" <keviv90 <gjlist> Monday, August 05, 2002 4:15 AM Re: [GJ] Swami Vivekananda's horoscope > Dear Visti & Robyn, > I believe it is the natal chart that > dominates.Divisional charts only assist in reading > traits of a particular house.For example,for > occupation--you should read tenth house in natal chart > along with Dasamsa chart.For spirituality,the ninth > house in natal chart is the main factor.Swami > Vivekananda's chart is not strong on spirituality. > > yours truly, > vivek. --- Visti Larsen > <vishnu wrote: > Vyam VedaVyasaaya Namah > > > > > -------- ------ > > > > Dear Robyn, > > The dasamsa shows our occupation. A saintly person > > does saintly work. > > Their degree of spirituality, is seen from the > > Vimsamsa. > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > - > > "Robyn" <resimpson > > <gjlist> > > Saturday, August 03, 2002 10:18 PM > > Re: [GJ] Swami Vivekananda's horoscope > > > > > > > Hi Vivek, > > > > > > I am all for some interesting discussion on > > Jyotish. Where should we start > > > on this chart? I need to get back into my studies > > after all this website > > > work. Sanjay Rath has an excellent article on the > > necessity of analysing the > > > Dasamsa chart to discover the sainthood of the > > person. I think I am going to > > > start with the Dasamsa, do you agree? > > > > > > Yours > > > Robyn > > > > > > > > > Ramesvari Devi > > > www.jyotishdiscovery.com > > > > > > - > > > "vivek" <keviv90 > > > <gjlist> > > > Saturday, August 03, 2002 3:52 AM > > > [GJ] Swami Vivekananda's horoscope > > > > > > > > > > hi everyone, > > > > I have attached the horoscope of swami > > Vivekananda. > > > > Let's discuss it. > > > > yours, > > > > vivek. > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > > > > Want to sell your car? advertise on Autos > > Classifieds. It's Free!! > > > > visit http://in.autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om > > Tat Sat > > > > : > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > > Sat > > > : > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > Want to sell your car? advertise on Autos Classifieds. It's Free!! > visit http://in.autos. > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2002 Report Share Posted August 5, 2002 Dear Robyn, I read thro the article on divisional charts. I am unable to understand the piece regarding progressions using navamsa lagna for timing. Do you think, you or Robert koch can illustrate with an example. I would appreciae that very much. AM gjlist, "Robyn" <resimpson@w...> wrote: > Dear Vivek, > > Well, at least this is starting a Jyotish discussion but could we get back > to the charts and in particular, Visti, the correction of birth time as > pointed out by Sanjay Rath. Vivek, I would like to refer you to an article I > posted recently on divisional charts by one of senior gurus, Robert Koch, on > the JD website on the importance of the divisional charts. For myself, I > found this highly illuminating regarding the importance of the divisional > charts particuarly in relation to a person such as Swami Vivekananda. I am > really keen to hear your interpretation of what makes you think he does not > have indications in his chart of high spirituality. Could you substantiate > that claim please using solid Jyotish? > > Best wishes > Ramesvari Devi > www.jyotishdiscovery.com > > - > "vivek" <keviv90> > <gjlist> > Monday, August 05, 2002 4:15 AM > Re: [GJ] Swami Vivekananda's horoscope > > > > Dear Visti & Robyn, > > I believe it is the natal chart that > > dominates.Divisional charts only assist in reading > > traits of a particular house.For example,for > > occupation--you should read tenth house in natal chart > > along with Dasamsa chart.For spirituality,the ninth > > house in natal chart is the main factor.Swami > > Vivekananda's chart is not strong on spirituality. > > > > yours truly, > > vivek. --- Visti Larsen > > <vishnu@l...> wrote: > Vyam VedaVyasaaya Namah > > > > > > > > -------- > ------ > > > > > > Dear Robyn, > > > The dasamsa shows our occupation. A saintly person > > > does saintly work. > > > Their degree of spirituality, is seen from the > > > Vimsamsa. > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > > > - > > > "Robyn" <resimpson@w...> > > > <gjlist> > > > Saturday, August 03, 2002 10:18 PM > > > Re: [GJ] Swami Vivekananda's horoscope > > > > > > > > > > Hi Vivek, > > > > > > > > I am all for some interesting discussion on > > > Jyotish. Where should we start > > > > on this chart? I need to get back into my studies > > > after all this website > > > > work. Sanjay Rath has an excellent article on the > > > necessity of analysing the > > > > Dasamsa chart to discover the sainthood of the > > > person. I think I am going to > > > > start with the Dasamsa, do you agree? > > > > > > > > Yours > > > > Robyn > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesvari Devi > > > > www.jyotishdiscovery.com > > > > > > > > - > > > > "vivek" <keviv90> > > > > <gjlist> > > > > Saturday, August 03, 2002 3:52 AM > > > > [GJ] Swami Vivekananda's horoscope > > > > > > > > > > > > > hi everyone, > > > > > I have attached the horoscope of swami > > > Vivekananda. > > > > > Let's discuss it. > > > > > yours, > > > > > vivek. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ __ > > > > > Want to sell your car? advertise on Autos > > > Classifieds. It's Free!! > > > > > visit http://in.autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om > > > Tat Sat > > > > > : > > > gjlist-@e... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > > > Sat > > > > : > > > gjlist-@e... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ __ > > Want to sell your car? advertise on Autos Classifieds. It's Free!! > > visit http://in.autos. > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist-@e... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2002 Report Share Posted August 5, 2002 Dear sanjay,you are right.The chart I had sent was wrong.I found this horoscope while searching on the net and sent it without verifying it. Now I have verified myself.The lagna is DEG 29-23-28 saggitarius and the sun is at DEG 29-25-57 saggitarius. This changes the whole picture.Sun as 9th lord and AK is in lagna(in both natal chart and navamsa) With best wishes, vivek. --- Sanjay Rath <srath wrote: > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya > Dear Vivek, > Thats a different chart you use. Dr Raman & I use > Dhanus Lagna, Vrischika > Navamsa lagana. The difference is I use Lahiri to > get Sun as AK in lagna & > he used Raman ayanamsa to get Sun as Darakaraka in > 2nd. > With best wishes > Sanjay Rath > http://sanjayrath.tripod.com > <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> > > > > vivek [keviv90] > Saturday, August 03, 2002 10:22 AM > gjlist > [GJ] Swami Vivekananda's horoscope > > > hi everyone, > I have attached the horoscope of swami Vivekananda. > Let's discuss it. > yours, > vivek. > > ______________________ > Want to sell your car? advertise on Autos > Classifieds. It's Free!! > visit http://in.autos. > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > Sat > : > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > Sat > : > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > ______________________ Want to sell your car? advertise on Autos Classifieds. It's Free!! visit http://in.autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2002 Report Share Posted August 6, 2002 Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya Dear Vivek You still don't have the right chart. The Lagna should be in Scorpio Navamsa, else he would be born in a Royal family. With best wishes Sanjay Rath http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> vivek [keviv90] Tuesday, August 06, 2002 9:28 AM gjlist RE: [GJ] Swami Vivekananda's horoscope Dear sanjay,you are right.The chart I had sent was wrong.I found this horoscope while searching on the net and sent it without verifying it. Now I have verified myself.The lagna is DEG 29-23-28 saggitarius and the sun is at DEG 29-25-57 saggitarius. This changes the whole picture.Sun as 9th lord and AK is in lagna(in both natal chart and navamsa) With best wishes, vivek. --- Sanjay Rath <srath wrote: > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya > Dear Vivek, > Thats a different chart you use. Dr Raman & I use > Dhanus Lagna, Vrischika > Navamsa lagana. The difference is I use Lahiri to > get Sun as AK in lagna & > he used Raman ayanamsa to get Sun as Darakaraka in > 2nd. > With best wishes > Sanjay Rath > http://sanjayrath.tripod.com > <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> > > > > vivek [keviv90] > Saturday, August 03, 2002 10:22 AM > gjlist > [GJ] Swami Vivekananda's horoscope > > > hi everyone, > I have attached the horoscope of swami Vivekananda. > Let's discuss it. > yours, > vivek. > > ______________________ > Want to sell your car? advertise on Autos > Classifieds. It's Free!! > visit http://in.autos. > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > Sat > : > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > Sat > : > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > ______________________ Want to sell your car? advertise on Autos Classifieds. It's Free!! visit http://in.autos. Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat : gjlist- Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2002 Report Share Posted August 6, 2002 Dear AM, That is certainly a question that Robert Koch must answer. I would appreciate it if you could post this on the new onsite Jyotish Discovery forum. That is precisely the type of question that I would like up there regarding articles pertaining to the site. Just go to www.jyotishdiscovery.com and post the question on the Forum. I am sure Robert would like to answer it provided he has the time. The USA conferences are just about on us now and everybody is very busy. Best wishes Ramesvari Devi www.jyotishdiscovery.com - "astromedico" <astromedico <gjlist> Tuesday, August 06, 2002 1:32 AM [GJ] Re: Swami Vivekananda's horoscope > Dear Robyn, > I read thro the article on divisional charts. I am unable to > understand the piece regarding progressions using navamsa lagna for > timing. > > Do you think, you or Robert koch can illustrate with an example. I > would appreciae that very much. > > AM > > gjlist, "Robyn" <resimpson@w...> wrote: > > Dear Vivek, > > > > Well, at least this is starting a Jyotish discussion but could we > get back > > to the charts and in particular, Visti, the correction of birth > time as > > pointed out by Sanjay Rath. Vivek, I would like to refer you to an > article I > > posted recently on divisional charts by one of senior gurus, Robert > Koch, on > > the JD website on the importance of the divisional charts. For > myself, I > > found this highly illuminating regarding the importance of the > divisional > > charts particuarly in relation to a person such as Swami > Vivekananda. I am > > really keen to hear your interpretation of what makes you think he > does not > > have indications in his chart of high spirituality. Could you > substantiate > > that claim please using solid Jyotish? > > > > Best wishes > > Ramesvari Devi > > www.jyotishdiscovery.com > > > > - > > "vivek" <keviv90> > > <gjlist> > > Monday, August 05, 2002 4:15 AM > > Re: [GJ] Swami Vivekananda's horoscope > > > > > > > Dear Visti & Robyn, > > > I believe it is the natal chart that > > > dominates.Divisional charts only assist in reading > > > traits of a particular house.For example,for > > > occupation--you should read tenth house in natal chart > > > along with Dasamsa chart.For spirituality,the ninth > > > house in natal chart is the main factor.Swami > > > Vivekananda's chart is not strong on spirituality. > > > > > > yours truly, > > > vivek. --- Visti Larsen > > > <vishnu@l...> wrote: > Vyam VedaVyasaaya Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > -------- > > ------ > > > > > > > > Dear Robyn, > > > > The dasamsa shows our occupation. A saintly person > > > > does saintly work. > > > > Their degree of spirituality, is seen from the > > > > Vimsamsa. > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > > > > > - > > > > "Robyn" <resimpson@w...> > > > > <gjlist> > > > > Saturday, August 03, 2002 10:18 PM > > > > Re: [GJ] Swami Vivekananda's horoscope > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Vivek, > > > > > > > > > > I am all for some interesting discussion on > > > > Jyotish. Where should we start > > > > > on this chart? I need to get back into my studies > > > > after all this website > > > > > work. Sanjay Rath has an excellent article on the > > > > necessity of analysing the > > > > > Dasamsa chart to discover the sainthood of the > > > > person. I think I am going to > > > > > start with the Dasamsa, do you agree? > > > > > > > > > > Yours > > > > > Robyn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesvari Devi > > > > > www.jyotishdiscovery.com > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > "vivek" <keviv90> > > > > > <gjlist> > > > > > Saturday, August 03, 2002 3:52 AM > > > > > [GJ] Swami Vivekananda's horoscope > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hi everyone, > > > > > > I have attached the horoscope of swami > > > > Vivekananda. > > > > > > Let's discuss it. > > > > > > yours, > > > > > > vivek. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ > __ > > > > > > Want to sell your car? advertise on Autos > > > > Classifieds. It's Free!! > > > > > > visit http://in.autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om > > > > Tat Sat > > > > > > : > > > > gjlist-@e... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > > > > Sat > > > > > : > > > > gjlist-@e... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ > __ > > > Want to sell your car? advertise on Autos Classifieds. It's > Free!! > > > visit http://in.autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > > : gjlist-@e... > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2002 Report Share Posted August 6, 2002 Dear AM, At 02:32 AM 8/6/02 +0000, you wrote: >Dear Robyn, >I read thro the article on divisional charts. I am unable to >understand the piece regarding progressions using navamsa lagna for >timing. > >Do you think, you or Robert koch can illustrate with an example. I >would appreciae that very much. > >AM Please post your question as above to the Jyotishdiscovery.com forum, and I will answer you there. Best wishes, Robert PS Could someone please post the correct birth data for Swami Vivekananda? Thank you.......RK ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer Faculty Member, SJVC and ACVA visit <http://www.robertkoch.com> and, http://www.jyotishdiscovery.com or Ph: 541.318.0248 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2002 Report Share Posted August 7, 2002 Dear Sanjay, I used the same time as given in the wrong horoscope.That is 6-45 AM. Maybe the actual time is a little earlier? yours, vivek. gjlist, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@s...> wrote: > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya > Dear Vivek > You still don't have the right chart. The Lagna should be in Scorpio > Navamsa, else he would be born in a Royal family. > With best wishes > Sanjay Rath > http://sanjayrath.tripod.com <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> > > > > vivek [keviv90] > Tuesday, August 06, 2002 9:28 AM > gjlist > RE: [GJ] Swami Vivekananda's horoscope > > > Dear sanjay,you are right.The chart I had sent was > wrong.I found this horoscope while searching on the > net and sent it without verifying it. > Now I have verified myself.The lagna is DEG 29-23-28 > saggitarius and the sun is at DEG 29-25-57 > saggitarius. > This changes the whole picture.Sun as 9th lord and AK > is in lagna(in both natal chart and navamsa) > With best wishes, > vivek. > --- Sanjay Rath <srath@s...> wrote: > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya > > Dear Vivek, > > Thats a different chart you use. Dr Raman & I use > > Dhanus Lagna, Vrischika > > Navamsa lagana. The difference is I use Lahiri to > > get Sun as AK in lagna & > > he used Raman ayanamsa to get Sun as Darakaraka in > > 2nd. > > With best wishes > > Sanjay Rath > > http://sanjayrath.tripod.com > > <http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> > > > > > > > > vivek [keviv90] > > Saturday, August 03, 2002 10:22 AM > > gjlist > > [GJ] Swami Vivekananda's horoscope > > > > > > hi everyone, > > I have attached the horoscope of swami Vivekananda. > > Let's discuss it. > > yours, > > vivek. > > > > > ____________________ __ > > Want to sell your car? advertise on Autos > > Classifieds. It's Free!! > > visit http://in.autos. > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > > Sat > > : > > gjlist-@e... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > > Sat > > : > > gjlist-@e... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > ____________________ __ > Want to sell your car? advertise on Autos Classifieds. It's Free!! > visit http://in.autos. > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist-@e... > > > > Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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