Guest guest Posted August 12, 2002 Report Share Posted August 12, 2002 Many thanks for your kind words and interest. Das Gupta is one strong resource among (what I think, anyway) is a meager handful of reliable texts in English on Tantric traditions generally, and specifically on the roots of the Bengali religio-literary (if such a silly word exists; it's past this Infant Jyotishi's bedtime) universe. I have been reading chunks of it for the past several months and using it mainly as a reference when presenting informal talks at my local Buddhist group; what I must do soon is simply read it from cover to cover. I need to clarify here in case I slurred and blurred ideas earlier that this is in _no_ way a work on Tantric Jyotish. What it will do is reveal that much of what goes on in Indian ritual frameworks today has tantric antecedents and/or will take on even greater lustre and richness when viewed through a tantric lens. Ajay, I know from both the humor and the cadences of your letter that your humility is of the deep, hardy and true type that I so long to cultivate in my person and heart. It is patently _not_ affected humility, as is becoming almost de rigeur (to achieve business success -- sickening) among my countrymen, in my wonderful and pathologically dysfunctional nation. So your letter is a balm -- refreshing and healing -- and I feel the same order of warmth from -- and connection to -- you, Carol . (Regarding your son, I think of Peter O'Toole as T.E. Lawrence on the silver screen uttering what I have swiped & made my most public mantra: "Nothing is written!" This is the only way I can live. In a recent phone conversation, Das referred to those rare individuals [was it 10% or much, much smaller?] who can truly rewrite the screenplay of their lives (or for the pure theists on board, so fully cooperate with God's grace and plan that it is only God's creativity flowing through them and nothing else) AS "COSMIC HACKERS"!!* ) Ajay, your image of the diners inside and outside of the Ritz really got me. Poignant to read it, because you don't know which one I am in the Ritz or how I happened to get in. I'm that mangy dog I described in the other email. This doggala likes to imitate the tantrikas at their feast celebrations by dragging a bone around everywhere. Just now this pooch has snuck himself and the bone scandalously into the high-caste vegetarian feast held at the Ritz*. (By the way, this dog is oddly vegetarian, save the sacramental meat he consumes trying hard to emulate his true sadhaka masters and siblings. He is really trying to integrate everything. He recognizes Das' predicament as a sacred calling; as harrowing, terrifying for all involved; as apparently insoluble, as ultimately workable. POTENTIALLY workable. The game is on, and this dog wants impossibly to attain a precious human birth AND enlightenment somehow in this mutt lifetime. I like the intelligent discernment you both exhibit. If you discuss spiritual matters with others regularly, you have learned to watch out for the Mystical Fundamentalists. You know there are trustworthy practitioners about, and also MOFO*** mountebanks. The sellers of snake oil exist in all dimensions from the grossest to the most subtle; and can co-opt any and all markets and human situations. Oh, Ajay, a sexy affair is probably safer than hanging around in the smashan, but if your heart draws you toward any to the sadhanas performed in the latter, you will inevitably gain access to them. (I assume you know Svoboda's _Aghora_ series.) I am looking for ways you and/or others might get a hold of Das Gupta's book. I will try to scan a passage or two from the bk later today; & will also forward some links I've found relevant (Here's one to start, Ajay: Go to <http://www.vajranatha.com/>; click on "Excerpts from Published Works"; and go to the selection titled "Wicca, Paganism and Tantra". Off to bed now! All my best. Sincerely. Jesse PS Many thanks for putting up with this huge tsunami wave of Mithun verbiage. _______________________ * This and other signs proved to me that Das is in fact a natural tantrika -- I also say responsible heretic. (Sometimes you see the ones afffected really badly by their calling or the calling of the muse/Vision end up in epileptic seizures until they completely welcome and fully accomplish the calling. I have to emphasize that this does not make Raghu infallible or somehow beyond the need for the most basic kind gestures. His is a psychic and quite visceral vulnerability which _most_ requires such kindnesses. Those on the list who would seem to smell blood on the list surface ---- who want him to buy the General Electric (GE) brand life, GE brand scripture, GE brand exegesis and GE brand condoms [cf. Trungpa's _Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism_ if the GE metaphor is too far out: I'm talking to others; I know Carol, Das and the Mike my superb ally from the USMC will get the quip!] as if there were only one prescription for any given problem/crisis ---- show me they only smile and celebrate God from the neck or maybe the chest up; not with every cell in their body! The whole body is not linear, monolithic or capable of being fit into one spiritual scrip. The whole body can enact whole new yogas, whole new creative planetary dances and languages: for the human body experienced as a whole is the mandala of the universe in microcosm. On a global level, Das' depression-as-vocational-calling/wake-up call is not atypical. Happens all the time. In individual communities and our specific intertwined lives, however, such a descent into dark night / call to enact new planetary dances and healings IS A RARE CRISIS. May we all by the example of such a crisis yearn to see new angles and possibilities in our own and other's charts and thereby cooperate with divine creative agency!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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