Guest guest Posted August 22, 2002 Report Share Posted August 22, 2002 And I'm sorry about my outburst! The way your message was phrased, it seemed like something of an attack, but it seems that wasn't your intent. Thanks for your kind note. Sincerely, Jesse In a message dated 8/22/2002 11:38:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk writes: Dear Jesse, Sorry about that, just reading up from the various indications of nakshetras. The reason is that Yama overlords the nakshetra of Bharani, and with it brings much of these things. In a subtle effect this could indicate a person who doesn't hesitate with killing insects and has no problems with killing other animals. In a groser effect the person might kill other co-beings. Hope this helps. Best wishes, Visti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2002 Report Share Posted August 22, 2002 Om Namo Bhagavaate Vasudevaaya Dear Curtis, Bharani is lorded by the god Yama, the king of death. Do you identify your attitude as destructive, and often inclined towards killing? Ever worked in a butchers shop? Asvini is lorded by the Asvini Kumaras(4 infant sages), and are very spiritual. Our way of thinking, is seen from the lagna, whilst our attitude towards life is seen from Moon. Tat Twamasi. Best wishes, Visti. - Curtis Burns gjlist Thursday, August 22, 2002 5:13 PM [GJ] Ayanamsha, Gurus, Systems Carol's point brings up something interesting. Let me say first however, that I am well aware of the tendency to project one's own conviction upon something like an ayanamsa and it having somekind of phenomenological effect on things. I think however that a discerning "scientist" through a methodical process can separate the fact from the fiction. I compare Houck, Lahiri, Raman, and others on a regular basis; for predictive purposes I find best results with Raman. In Lahiri my moon falls in Ashvini, but Bharani in Raman. I think I tend towards Bharani. To reiterate, I think a diligent astrology can come to a close approximation of "reality" as far as ayanamshas go. So far I think Raman got it right. Let me tell you friends something that can be quite agonizing: NO SYSTEM HAS EVER BEEN PERFECT ANYWHERE EVER. Under analysis everything seems to breakdown, which I suppose is a variation on the Heisenberg Uncertainty principle. People fail, gurus fail, ayanamsas fail, astrology fails (which we are all painfully aware of). Political system fail; so it really comes down to the individual having "faith" in the illusion of the system, and moving on. Analysis kills. God, however, does not fail; that must be the One Constant. Don't become attached to people, place, things, systems, OR ayanamshas; THEY fail you, but God don't. Be in God, you become the master of all. Curtishttp://www.starworldnews.com PS. I still think Raman is right ;)At 10:03 PM 8/21/02 -0400, you wrote: Could this include expectations based upon firm belief in a certain ayanamsha? "Balderdash!", says the majority...but what about Curtis, what about Rick, what about Tarun? Different ayanamshas that they use could be considered analogous to the glasses that a person wears who has not got 20-20 vision without specially corrected lenses, who sees what everyone else sees, but through a glass brightly!Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo , send an email to: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2002 Report Share Posted August 22, 2002 Carol's point brings up something interesting. Let me say first however, that I am well aware of the tendency to project one's own conviction upon something like an ayanamsa and it having somekind of phenomenological effect on things. I think however that a discerning "scientist" through a methodical process can separate the fact from the fiction. I compare Houck, Lahiri, Raman, and others on a regular basis; for predictive purposes I find best results with Raman. In Lahiri my moon falls in Ashvini, but Bharani in Raman. I think I tend towards Bharani. To reiterate, I think a diligent astrology can come to a close approximation of "reality" as far as ayanamshas go. So far I think Raman got it right. Let me tell you friends something that can be quite agonizing: NO SYSTEM HAS EVER BEEN PERFECT ANYWHERE EVER. Under analysis everything seems to breakdown, which I suppose is a variation on the Heisenberg Uncertainty principle. People fail, gurus fail, ayanamsas fail, astrology fails (which we are all painfully aware of). Political system fail; so it really comes down to the individual having "faith" in the illusion of the system, and moving on. Analysis kills. God, however, does not fail; that must be the One Constant. Don't become attached to people, place, things, systems, OR ayanamshas; THEY fail you, but God don't. Be in God, you become the master of all. Curtis http://www.starworldnews.com PS. I still think Raman is right At 10:03 PM 8/21/02 -0400, you wrote: Could this include expectations based upon firm belief in a certain ayanamsha? "Balderdash!", says the majority...but what about Curtis, what about Rick, what about Tarun? Different ayanamshas that they use could be considered analogous to the glasses that a person wears who has not got 20-20 vision without specially corrected lenses, who sees what everyone else sees, but through a glass brightly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2002 Report Share Posted August 22, 2002 >Bharani is lorded by the god Yama, the king of death. Do you identify your attitude as destructive, and often inclined towards killing? Ever worked in a butchers shop? Do you find people with this star often do work with flesh? Or something else sparked the question? And Bharan, means necessities, and it's an Artha star, who's symbol is the woman's cauldron of life, so there is more to a Nakshatra than the fear people might have of it's ruler. Yama is a cool guy too, very wise and soft spoken, personified in Yudhistir, and this deity is also called "Dharma-Raja", and Yudhistir was thus known for that too. Necessity stands in opposition to non-necessity. When Darmaraj Yudhistir the Pandava Yuvaraj gambled and even lost his wife in this, he lost all for all the Pandavas. Gambling is not for true warriors, nor is it truly dharmic. This his mistake led to the battle of Kurukshetra- and so we are taught to understand these matters thus via the Hindu way. This relates Bharan to necessaties, artha, same thing, and the start of life, the body being the chief necessity. Bharani is the star that stands for Celtic knot, the knot of life and death, rebirth, reality, that which is feared, but to go round and round you have to die to live. roik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2002 Report Share Posted August 22, 2002 Yama was also the first man and so the first to face death. For his courage he was made a god. I find folks that are interested in birth have this placement prominent in varying ways. I have no clients that are butchers, I do have a ob gyn whose Moon is in Bharani. All the midwifes I've seen (several) have it prominent. c - "Das Goravani" <> <gjlist> Thursday, August 22, 2002 5:23 PM Re: [GJ] Ayanamsha, Gurus, Systems > > > >Bharani is lorded by the god Yama, the king of death. Do > you identify your attitude as destructive, and often > inclined towards killing? Ever worked in a butchers shop? > > Do you find people with this star often do work with flesh? > Or something else sparked the question? > > And Bharan, means necessities, and it's an Artha star, who's > symbol is the woman's cauldron of life, so there is more to > a Nakshatra than the fear people might have of it's ruler. > Yama is a cool guy too, very wise and soft spoken, > personified in Yudhistir, and this deity is also called > "Dharma-Raja", and Yudhistir was thus known for that too. > Necessity stands in opposition to non-necessity. When > Darmaraj Yudhistir the Pandava Yuvaraj gambled and even lost > his wife in this, he lost all for all the Pandavas. Gambling > is not for true warriors, nor is it truly dharmic. This his > mistake led to the battle of Kurukshetra- and so we are > taught to understand these matters thus via the Hindu way. > > This relates Bharan to necessaties, artha, same thing, and > the start of life, the body being the chief necessity. > Bharani is the star that stands for Celtic knot, the knot of > life and death, rebirth, reality, that which is feared, but > to go round and round you have to die to live. > > roik > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2002 Report Share Posted August 23, 2002 Just to butt in. The Raman's Ayanamsha was rejected by the Calender Reforms Committee of Government of India twice and Raman was also a signatory to the statement that Lahiri's ayanamsha is the correct one. Manoj PS : His ayanamsha fails on his own chart. Examine his chart with Lahiri and Raman ayanamsha both, and work up Saptamsha and see what works best. Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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