SJVC and misinformation campaigns

[Guest guest]

Om Vishnave Namah

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

Dear Raghu das and other Jyotishi friends,

 

At 08:14 AM 9/30/02 -0700, you wrote:

 

>Hello

>

>Was that letter I just got REALLY from Sanjay, as it seemed, or his main man

>or something?

 

>Didn't we just read about RK being an important Guru for SJVC?

 

>Is this a fake letter, intended to be discrediting misinformation?

 

>What's up?

 

>I imagine I'm not the only one wondering.

 

Let me fill you in on a what has been happening. A very disturbed and

delusional soul - who formerly had an administrative position within SJVC -

has embarked on an incredulous and destructive path of trying to sabotage

the brilliant Jyotish movement of Sri Sanjay Rath, know as SJVC (Sri

Jagannath Vedic Center).

 

Here is some brief history: Dinanatha das (so he is named), was the first

secretary of SJVC appointed by Sanjay Rath to start incorporation

legalities in the USA, and did so within the state of New Jersey with the

help of HK devotees Kusa devi and her husband, Sruta Kirti das. After the

mission grew, with the addition of my esteemed colleagues and friends

Brendan Feeley, Laksmi Kary, Sat Siri Khalsa, Narasimha Rao, and then

myself, a board of administrators had been formed to conduct the curriculum

and administrative affairs of SJVC USA in a more organized way. So Sanjay

appointed me as "SJVC guru" of North and South America (a title which I am

humbled to assume, as I feel everyone is my guru and my purpose is to serve

all of you), which basically means spiritual advisor and ultimate authority

on curriculum and internal affairs of the mission; Brendan was appointed

President, and Laksmi, secretary and signing officer. We three, on the

request of Sanjay Rath, thus assumed the duties of core administrators for

the mission.

 

In a short amount of time, Dinanatha evidnetly became discouraged that his

position had been diminished, and started to speak to Brendan and Laksmi in

such vile and reprehensible terms, that I could not repeat them in a public

forum. Sanjay Rath and myself tried to encourage him to work

cooperatively, and try to practice his sadhana such that he could purify

his heart of malice, and diffuse his unreasonable anger, but he did

not. After repeated efforts to correct this young man failed, it was up to

me, in consultation with Sanjay Rath, to exercise the very unhappy and

painful duty of expelling him from SJVC entirely. Under normal

circumstances, a gentleman would step down, apologize, and go his separate

way. Instead, this fueled his anger to catastrophic proportions, and now

he has chosen - in every way possible - to hi-jack and sabotage the good

name of SJVC, and publicly defile and disgrace those who had been

hand-picked by Sanjay to head this mission in the US. Needless to say,

this has caused considerable confusion and bewilderment in the minds of

many, especially my students who trust me to bring them my knowledge of

Jyotish, and especially a consciousness and way of being that is consistent

with the true tenets of Vedic scripture and culture. It is indeed a very

unhappy event when someone chooses to embark on a path which is not only

destructive to many, but unfortunately more karmically damaging to him than

anyone else.

 

Maybe Sri Krsna and all the great teachers and gurus before us, will

forgive this young man for wreaking havoc in a very highly esteemed

environment of Jyotishis and Jyotish students. In the meantime, if an

elephant enters into a garden, and destroys all the flowers there, we can

only wait until he leaves, and then plant again.

 

With love, and deep respect to all,

Robert

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer

Faculty Member, SJVC and ACVA

visit <http://www.robertkoch.com> and,

http://www.jyotishdiscovery.com or

Ph: 541.318.0248

[Guest guest]

Dear List,

Robert's email sounds fair to me, it is gentle and concise, and I applaud

him in writing to us.

Any time someone writes email purporting to be Sanjay and is not Sanjay,

that person is committing fraud. Robert is well advised to inform Das that

the email supposedly from Sanjay was false.

The particulars of the matter are by now, less important to me than the

fact now known, that someone apparently committed a crime of

self-misrepresentation in order to harm another person. Compounding the

fraud is the malevolent idea attempting to follow through. I have been

wrestling with a similar situation (someone misrepresenting self to the

detriment of others) in my own life, and I wish to have the calm manner

Robert has!

Robert is to be commended for his kind response. And his many fine

contributions to Jyotish!

Best to all,

Carol

[Guest guest]

Hare Rama Krishna

Dear Robert,

If you feel that this problem is worth the public eye, then please realise that

some people on Goravani list know what Dinanathas claims are, and realise that

you aren't revealing the whole truth about this, in your mails.

 

The pivot of the problem, as agreed by Sanjay, Narasimha, Dinanatha and me as

well, and probably others, is due to some personal decissions that you have

made with regards to sjvc-policy.. Lets not say more.

 

The difference between us and Dinanatha, is in the mannor through which we tried

to solve the problem.

 

So in good spirit, please don't comment any further on this matter to any other

lists outside the sjvc-administration. Dinanatha has been silenced because of

his way of handling this issue, which was/is completely irresponsible.. not due

to the issue at hand.

 

Mum's the word, i leave it to our Gurudeva.

Best wishesVisti---Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgITRANS Font:

http://www.aczone.com/itrans/

 

 

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"Robert A. Koch" <rk (AT) robertkoch (DOT) com>

<gjlist>

Monday, September 30, 2002 9:23 PM

Re: [GJ] SJVC and misinformation campaigns

> Om Vishnave Namah> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> > Dear Raghu das and other Jyotishi

friends,> > At 08:14 AM 9/30/02 -0700, you wrote:> > >Hello> >> >Was that

letter I just got REALLY from Sanjay, as it seemed, or his main man> >or

something?> > >Didn't we just read about RK being an important Guru for SJVC?>

> >Is this a fake letter, intended to be discrediting misinformation?> >

>What's up?> > >I imagine I'm not the only one wondering.> > Let me fill you

in on a what has been happening. A very disturbed and > delusional soul - who

formerly had an administrative position within SJVC - > has embarked on an

incredulous and destructive path of trying to sabotage > the brilliant Jyotish

movement of Sri Sanjay Rath, know as SJVC (Sri > Jagannath Vedic Center).> >

Here is some brief history: Dinanatha das (so he is named), was the first >

secretary of SJVC appointed by Sanjay Rath to start incorporation > legalities

in the USA, and did so within the state of New Jersey with the > help of HK

devotees Kusa devi and her husband, Sruta Kirti das. After the > mission grew,

with the addition of my esteemed colleagues and friends > Brendan Feeley, Laksmi

Kary, Sat Siri Khalsa, Narasimha Rao, and then > myself, a board of

administrators had been formed to conduct the curriculum > and administrative

affairs of SJVC USA in a more organized way. So Sanjay > appointed me as "SJVC

guru" of North and South America (a title which I am > humbled to assume, as I

feel everyone is my guru and my purpose is to serve > all of you), which

basically means spiritual advisor and ultimate authority > on curriculum and

internal affairs of the mission; Brendan was appointed > President, and Laksmi,

secretary and signing officer. We three, on the > request of Sanjay Rath, thus

assumed the duties of core administrators for > the mission.> > In a short

amount of time, Dinanatha evidnetly became discouraged that his > position had

been diminished, and started to speak to Brendan and Laksmi in > such vile and

reprehensible terms, that I could not repeat them in a public > forum. Sanjay

Rath and myself tried to encourage him to work > cooperatively, and try to

practice his sadhana such that he could purify > his heart of malice, and

diffuse his unreasonable anger, but he did > not. After repeated efforts to

correct this young man failed, it was up to > me, in consultation with Sanjay

Rath, to exercise the very unhappy and > painful duty of expelling him from

SJVC entirely. Under normal > circumstances, a gentleman would step down,

apologize, and go his separate > way. Instead, this fueled his anger to

catastrophic proportions, and now > he has chosen - in every way possible - to

hi-jack and sabotage the good > name of SJVC, and publicly defile and disgrace

those who had been > hand-picked by Sanjay to head this mission in the US.

Needless to say, > this has caused considerable confusion and bewilderment in

the minds of > many, especially my students who trust me to bring them my

knowledge of > Jyotish, and especially a consciousness and way of being that is

consistent > with the true tenets of Vedic scripture and culture. It is indeed

a very > unhappy event when someone chooses to embark on a path which is not

only > destructive to many, but unfortunately more karmically damaging to him

than > anyone else.> > Maybe Sri Krsna and all the great teachers and gurus

before us, will > forgive this young man for wreaking havoc in a very highly

esteemed > environment of Jyotishis and Jyotish students. In the meantime, if

an > elephant enters into a garden, and destroys all the flowers there, we can

> only wait until he leaves, and then plant again.> > With love, and deep

respect to all,> Robert> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> Robert A. Koch,

Vedic Astrologer> Faculty Member, SJVC and ACVA> visit

<http://www.robertkoch.com> and,> http://www.jyotishdiscovery.com or> Ph:

541.318.0248> > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat>

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