Guest guest Posted October 2, 2002 Report Share Posted October 2, 2002 Dear MD, Jaya Jagannatha! >Wow!!! Things aren't what they really appear to be. Yes, you are certainly right. Unfortunately due to effect of Kali Yuga you will often see is history that righteous and honest persons for no reason were tortured and harassed by envious ones. In Kali Yuga it is enough to say that someone is bad without providing any facts or evidence and than person actually has to prove that he is not guilty, just like in my case. I guess the person should be considered innocent until proven that he is guilty but I guess in Kali Yuga things are quickly changing. Robert is definitely under a full sway of Kali Yuga and he as already broken vows given to his first Guru Srila Prabhupada. Now he is not following the vows given to Srila Prabhupada and is also charging his students for teaching Jyotish. How can you call a gentleman a person who is breaking his word and not only word but a sacred vows given to his diksa guru in front of Deities, holy fire and other Vaishnavas?. Of course if you mention this to Robert he'll become so mad and angry at you and he'll not spare any bad words to describe his feelings towards you like you can see from his previous emails about me. I just got a message from a person who wanted to become Robert's student and he says that Robert wanted to charge him for every little thing and on top of that he was demanding a respect because as he said "he is a Brahmin and was initiated by Srila Prabhupada". Not only that he doesn't follow any brahminical principles, but he is also charging students to teach them Jyotish which is exactly opposite what he claims to be ( a Vedic Brahmin). He openly admitted to his friends that he is not following vows given to Srila Prabhupada and yet he is demanding respect for that (you can also see his web site http://robertkoch.com/robert.html where he claims to be a student of Bhaktivedanta Swami (Srila Prabhupada)). >Dinanath makes some very valid points. Why let someone like laxmi >whose ex-husband was convicted for drugs and weapons charges be >associated with an organization like SJVC. It appears that Dinanath >is righteous and Robert Koch is the thug as Dinnath's e-mail appears >to be candid and a statement of fact. Why doesn't Robret defend >himself if he is righteous and Dinanath is lying? This ongoing saga has started a while back on Achyuta mailing list on which is reserved for SJVC Gurus. However in his madness Robert couldn't content himself to only Achyuta mailing list and have a normal and meaningful discussion there so he started sending indiscriminately his false accusations against me to all mailing lists connected to SJVC. Since he has done that I deserve at least to defend myself and present a facts. Those who use their common sense and intelligence and are unbiased will be able to see easily who is right and who is wrong. The facts are very simple: 1. SJVC-USA has been formed on explicit order/desire of Sanjay Rath and most of the work in registering SJVC-USA as an religious non-profit organization was done by Kusa devi. SJVC-USA is registered in state of New Jersey with the office address at: 1504 Riverton Road, Cinnaminson, N.J. 08077 2.When the organization was incorporated a web site www.sjvcusa.org has also been started meant to propagate activities of SJVC-USA registered in NJ with the office address at: 1504 Riverton Road, Cinnaminson, N.J. 08077 3. As I mentioned in my previous message recently Sanjay did request us that instead of existing trustees/directors of SJVC-USA we put Robert, Brendan and Laxmi. In my previous message you could see legal reasons why it wasn't advisable and possible to do that and Sanjay has also agreed with that and suggested to Robert, Brendan and Laxmi to start separate organization from already existing SJVC-USA which is registered in state of New Jersey with the office address at: 1504 Riverton Road, Cinnaminson, N.J. 08077 Now I don't understand why Robert wants to use SJVC-USA's web site for his own organization? He could simply pay for and start the web site of his own organization and display organizational structure of his organization or whatever he wants on the web site of his organisation. Sanjay told him to start separate organization from existing SJVC-USA so I don't know why is he picking on me and is accusing me that I hacked www.sjvcusa.org when I updated SJVC-USA's site with valid legal information of the SJVC-USA organization to which www.sjvcusa.org site belongs? I also don't understand why he insist on using name SJVC-USA when Sanjay told him to start separate organization? He can call his organization whatever he wants. Maybe the part of the problem is that his organization is not registered yet and they don't have name for it. In that case I would advise Robert to please get a name for his organization different than SJVC-USA which is already registered and than there is no problem. At the end I would beg Robert to please let us run SJVC-USA in peace without disturbances that he is making. Robert, you have got Sanjay's blessings to start your own organization so please do that. We never interfered with activities of your organization so please don't interfere with ours, simple as that. I would like to apologies to all group members because of all this, but I guess the other side of the story should also be heard, especially after all these accusations. Unfortunately none could predict that Robert will behave like this and go out of control, so I beg all of you again for forgiveness and for inconvenience caused. The matter is very simple with a simple solution. I hope that Robert will come to his senses and just live peacefully and let others also live peacefully. Hare Krishna, Dinanatha Das. P.S. Please let's continue with Jyotish discussions, pray for peace and hope that some individuals will finally understand some things in life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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