Guest guest Posted October 3, 2002 Report Share Posted October 3, 2002 As soon as I sent, I see Dinanath wrote. I read it. He is trying to hurt Sanjay. Fine. Now Sanjay, listen to this pain. You see, these "Guru" labels are used against everyone by Westerners. They HOLD YOU to the letter. They are not respectful in the Indian way. They are fanatical when it comes to these things, so it's best to avoid these labels. They will eat you and Robert and others as you go. Watch and see. Better to offer products, and let STANDARD CULTURE rule the conduct systems. Here in the West, we have OVERLY KIND and GRACIOUS standard rules of conduct. These do NOT need replacing. I hope you can hear me. And Dinanath, SMOKING is something Yogis have done FOREVER, in MANY cultures. Whatever standard of "Sattvic" you are adhering to by dint of having uptight Indian Gurus (don't worry, I know what I'm saying), then fine, but I personally want to say, Sanjay is NO LESS of a person if he smokes. These judgementalisms and fights are not helping us. These conceptions of personal purity, sattva, guru, sanctity, holiness, sampradaya, are not helping us. We want and need knowledge that works. We need only the parts that actually do something. If you want to purify the west at the root, youwill only cause wars. You must work the slow method, from the outside first, respecting the established order and ways. Here in America, anybody smokes who wants to. I do. So fucking what? Up yours buddy if you think that's bad. Just take a flying fuck at the moon and see if I care. Sanjay, don't let this shit stop you. But understand, you helped create it. So right now, step back and think, this is the big decision: Do you want to mess around with people like Robert, Dinanath, Brenden, Mark Boney, etc., forever, or are you going to do something bigger for all the suffering little people who know NOTHING of yoga, jyotish, etc. This is the kind of crap that all this so called purity creates. And you few nice pure woman out there, don't write now and say how great everything is. You are nice, pure, wonderful, however, the whole world is full of pain and suffering, and needs information to replace old paradigms. We still have puritan christianity as the only dominant baseline understanding still in the west. This needs replacing. Knowledge is key. Deepak Chopra has done ALOT to help, as has Maharishi and others. They did so by NOT bringing the old Indian ways. Prabhupada, who did, had far less impact, and his followers are still creating problems everywhere they operate. Stop judgementalism and start distributing knowledge far and wide. Let the old die, and replace it with it's new form. The world will be the winner, not the loser for it. Please Das Goravani, President 2852 Willamette St, #353 Eugene, OR, 97405, USA-America Voice: or in America fax: 541-343-0344 http://www.DancingMoonInc.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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