Another mail I got

[Guest guest]

hello

 

I post this to show that I do get these...

 

It's just interesting. And those who dislike me can take heart that I do get

this kind of lip. I want you to feel peace also.

 

Also, lastly, he implies I want followers. Actually, although I've had many

people offer to "be my disciple", I have never done any accepting of that

sort of thing, knowing that I was in crisis all the while. I knew I had

abilities and talents, but I never felt able to lead anyone.

 

The below is an example of what used to hurt me, what made me feel so alone

and ill.

 

This doesn't hurt me now.

 

Peace, Das Goravani

 

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I wrote to him:

>

>So who are you?

 

 

Someone who doesn't want to be your follower. "And the smaller animals

glorify the bigger animals. The blind leading the blind." Crows like the

garbage while the swams avoid them.

 

My perception tells me that you are one very confused guy. You are so much

in need of being in the spot light and having your false ego massaged that

you would do anything for attention and you do. Some people also love and

watch WWW as in wrestling or all those low class talk shows like Geraldo but

that doesn't say much for them. So because you have a lot of similarly wierd

people luvving you make a complete moronic idiot of yourself well what can I

say. You are so deprived of love and attention that you do whatever it takes

to get it even pull down your emotional pants in public.

 

Anyway, when I was a kid I could not watch the parts in a TV program where I

knew the person was going to make an a$$ of themselves so I would turn off

the TV. I have done the same with you. I don't need to watch your

masochistic behaviour.

 

And since I don't want to be your follower or have anything to do with you

anymore I am blocking your email address.

 

NS

 

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more comments from Das:

 

The reference to crows and swans is a Hindu one. Crows (bad), Swans (Good).

Swans (Hamsas) are good because they are seen as being able to differentiate

between good and bad. They are said to be able to "find the gold in the

garbage". This quality is called Hamsa like, or in Jyotish, is found in

Hamsa Yoga. I think my Jupiter gives me this to some degree actually.

Vedicly speaking, I have a good Jupiter. I should be what he is saying I'm

not, if we use astrology.

 

Since in life, human judgement can be so relative, we use astrology for

clarity. We can use astrology to know who is who in actuality. Those who

have Jupiter in the 9th, in Mridu, owning 7 vargas, are to be considered to

be fairly Jupiterian. This devotee should learn more and understand these

things.

 

I am frank about my views. I have "insulted" even Srila Prabhupada,

something nobody would do, no normal Hare Krishna devotee anyway. But I had

my reasons, and they stand still to this day. I also glorified him

profusely, and have served his mission alot. I still do. I still love him,

and some devotees cannot grasp the complexity of the situation as it stands

for me.

 

It is not Prabhupada actually who I attack, even when I say his name. It is

the thing he is seen as. The mirage Prabhupada, who supposedly taught

hatred. It's not really the real man. It's the man icon, the icon who says

"Mayavadis are bad, Maharishi is bogus". In person, the two would probably

love each other, but apart, well, Prabhupada said bad things, but then so

did Sri Caitanya...

 

In this age, we have to heal and work together. We are no longer "apart",

including due to the internet. So, we have to throw out this Vaisnava verse

Mayavadi thing, that our movement mainly promoted. It's attributed to

Prabhupada alot, because it's in his writings. I still here old sick Hare

Krishna dudes telling me how "bogus mayavadis are". It's still going on.

Many of you are "Mayavadis". I can no longer consider you and your Gurus

"bogus". I cannot. I have to speak out against this old paradigm, but in so

doing, the real man Prabhupada, the soul, I don't think he's hurt. I think

he understands me, inasmuch as I think Bhaktivinode understood his own son

Bhaktisidhanta, when the later said "My father was ruled by woman".

 

I hope the more learned understand me. I put myself on the line big time to

bring out these painful issues for the hopes of healing. I am, mainly, after

all, as he points out, as I admit, a person who just wants to be loved, and

I just want to make stuff and be appreciated. I used to be frantic, now I am

not. I am at peace with life, and myself, and my life. I am fearful that

these things come to me. I am fearful because devotees have killed other

devotees over things like this. But I try not to be.

 

I wish everyone peace

 

 

Das Goravani, President

 

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Eugene, OR, 97405, USA-America

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