Types of Siksha

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Pranaams Robert,

 

Though I tried to stay away from the debate, there is one point that

must be made. Here's my 2 cents.

 

> THREE KINDS OF GURUS

>

> 1. Siksha guru: It simply means a teacher - period -that's it.

No

> assumption of greatness, no power over the people, no mandate of

service -

> just a teacher. Get it? If I understand the meaning of Siksha

guru, then

> what's the problem whether someone has that after his name, or PhD,

or MA,

> or whatever.

 

Within "siksha" (general learning), there are two divisions again.

One is called Apara Vidya and it covers knowledge of material nature.

The other is called Para Vidya and covers learning of higher

subjects. One is shown by Cancer and the other by Leo (that is why D-

24 divisions in a sign start from Cn or Le!), one is ruled by Ganesha

and the other by Saraswati.

 

Jyotish has always been considered as Para Vidya. Though Jyotish

teachers are still siksha gurus and not diksha gurus as you correctly

point out, they teach para vidya and there IS sacredness associated

with para vidya. It is not the same as teaching math or physics.

 

Sanjay ji wisely said in

 

gjlist/message/13463

 

that "It seems most logical from the western viewpoint for money

for work. However, the teaching, if done in the Parampara implies a

sacred transmission of knowledge called 'Paraa Vidya' which is

different from Aparaa Vidya. The purity (Niranjana) is lost if there

is any touch of rajas or tamas in this transmission and neither can

the teacher teach properly nor is the sisya going to learn properly.

Predictions will fail, understanding will be lacking, genuineness and

compassion will be absent and the most holy relationship of Guru-

Sisya shall be lost."

 

For now, let us leave the topic of whether one can charge for

teaching Para vidya (dear Satya ji, I am not talking about readings

here. I am talking about teaching). Healthy disagreement is better

than uncomfortable agreement. So let us leave the irksome issue for

now.

 

But I hope you concur that Jyotish IS a sacred subject and teaching

it is NOT the same as siksha in other material subjects.

 

Om Shaantih Shaantih Shaantih,

Narasimha