Guest guest Posted October 4, 2002 Report Share Posted October 4, 2002 Hello everyone, Reading Sanjays reply to Shiva, I am a bit surprised. Sanjays tone seems to me to be rather forceful. Shiva was respectful to Sanjay in his various posts yesterday, defending Sanjay, explaining things so nicely. His only comment in negative tone was one many of us agreed with, that it's not a good idea to talk about other peoples charts in a negative way, (curses are negative), on a list, especially when those kind of unfriendly dealings were going on. Dr SP Choudhary, Myself, and Shiva, all asked for this same restraint, all of us are professionals, intelligent, and friendly in wordings. Today Sanjay comes back with strong tones, feigned questions, obviously showing strong bravado, defending his position, which puts him by his own hand above Shiva, myself, and the Doctor, who spoke with age and eloquence, many could see. I personally very much appreciated every word of Shivas posts, and told him so privately twice. Perhaps I don't understand Indian ways. I am not Indian. I did however see that the Dr. explained that such things are not particularly Indian. For myself, I have before, and now again, defended Sanjay, cleared the way for him to speak openly on this list, to find the next day, that he is coming on very strongly. This happened before. I remember pain. I recognize his immense training in these fields, but I wonder if he could not perhaps excercise more restraint and kindness, especially towards those who show him kindness, such as Shiva and myself. Not only was that letter to Shiva quite strong, but I asked that DND's chart be NOT further discussed on this list. Please do NOT mention it anymore. I respect DND enough as a human to ask that. I ask that. Please stop. No need to write to tell me the mails crossed. I know that. I want to alert Sanjay and others that I am a bit taken aback by the fact that after a day of such dealings, when inner reflection is in order for all of us, that he is able to return so fast with so much bravado for his positions, which obviously many are having at least a wee bit of a hard time with. Sanjay, you have some power here by birth and training. Some here are your "disciples", but there are many on this list who do not like you at all, and they let me know such. Please, as an authority, show restraint and magnanimity, please. Be "above" that which you do not like. Show mercy and kindness. Do not ask feigned questions. Do not sound forceful or defensive. It does not support the position you have assumed. You should be graceful and peaceful. Isn't it so? I do know how peace is created and achieved, and it's not by the way you spoke to Shiv. I defended you and protected you openly, so now I do this part openly as well. This could have been avoided. I now wonder if you know how dealings are conducted, in MOST of the world, not just "the West". My honesty is universal. If I need to show step by step how rude your letter was Sanjay, I will. This list, is "open". It is not a private list for one individual or organization. It is open to the world. That means, on this list, you are just another person. I have written extensively about your speciality, to help you, but that doesn't mean you now dominate this list. There are many people here who already do not like you. You would do well for the sake of the list and your own career to act humbly, as we all should. I was really trying to get back to work. I am very sensitve, very easily upset. The list achieved a peace, and Sanjay and MD have today broken that, bringing up both sides of the old debate. It was clear to many, and Sanjay, it was cleared for you to be you. I felt this anyway. Now you are ruining that, and my day. I am again now getting yesterdays anxiety going. Can you not stop with this, and just either give openly, or be quiet? Does it have to be that you are boss, on top, challenging everybody, and putting down somebody's chart? Also, you imply seeking power is wrong, that is questionable. You imply many things. I sincerely ask you to go look in the mirror. You have now ruined my day to some degree, which hurts my mission, at a time in my career when I badly need to focus. I need yesterday to end. PLEASE ! Das Goravani, President 2852 Willamette St, #353 Eugene, OR, 97405, USA-America Voice: or in America fax: 541-343-0344 http://www.DancingMoonInc.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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