Re the Sade Sati discussion

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My experiences with Saturns Lunar Transit, and life in general when malefics

strike, on myself and many hundreds of others, is that it is no light

matter, similar to G. Kumar's posture. I think that what he says is from the

side of real experience.

 

Not the others are wrong. It's just different degrees of CURRENT

appreciation of how suffering feels.

 

I know that when I'm just a wee bit UP, I get real optimistic about telling

people how to handle suffering. When I'm back down, I agree that it's to be

feared. My posture changes greatly. My more sincere prayers resume. As Queen

Kunti says in Mahabharat or Bhagavatam, when we are down, that is when we

pray best.

 

I am suffering always for years, I get very few up times. I know many others

who are as well. Not just Sade Sati, but also the dashas of Saturn, and the

nodes, and other heavy transits combined with the malefic dashas. Many

people are suffering in many ways, and some, quite a few, are suffering

mental internal anquish nearly constantly, for years in a row without break.

 

This is very serious, extremely serious. Suicide, overeating, drugs, not

working, getting on various government and family assistance financial

reliefs, are all commonplace escape routes for these people, commonplace

shelters from the storm of pain.

 

To keep spirit alive and well in the suffering is hard work. I know, because

I try for myself and others in my town. It's so hard. We go on supporting

each other, sharing gifts, visiting each other, and it seemingly never ends.

It is punishment. It is pain. It is real. We really are suffering. It's very

real. All our training and effort has a hard time keeping our heads above

depression. We try everything.

 

In the end, we find the best thing that works the most, is prayer,

meditation, japa, and also, prayer, meditation, and japa, and usually or

sometimes, prayer, meditation, and japa, and last resort is prayer,

meditation, and japa. Everything else is weaker for solving depression, and

we try it all.

 

"Spirit, you made me, I am in you, I am one with you, and you are in me, and

I in you, I accept you, I am not afraid, I am one with spirit, so I am not

afraid, I will take steps, and go on, in spirit, anticipating little things

only, watching just right before me only, expecting nothing special, in

spirit, one step at a time, one with spirit, unafraid"

 

Repeat repeat repeat.

 

Today I counsel a man at a clinic who will die of AIDS anyday. Reality

check.

 

"Spirit, I have many gifts of thee, and I appreciate them, not taking them

for granted, spirit, help me to be simple and in love with just breathing,

thankful for just consciousness, spirit, help me to be simple, free from big

thoughts, free from want, you Spirit, are my father, mother, guide and

shelter, why should I think or want, move me in spirit, allow spirit to flow

through me, I have no choice, let me have no objection, spirit, fill me,

spirit, fill me, i am one with you, fill me so that I have no room for fear,

desire, hope, spirit, fill me, make me your channel"

 

We are all victims of spirits decisions. Astrology is the guide to spirits

plan. It is scary. There is no way to glossy it up. Usually, there is hard

times coming at some point, usually more than half the time, for most. Only

some are spared for some time from pain. Mostly people know pain. We are

being forced to the above prayers. Some have not the need, but they are more

rare. The young are optimistic though not satisfied. This optimism blinds

them to their own pains. Later, I see, as we get past 40, the reality

awakening is heavy, and all around.

 

The most free from pain are those who have no more hope of anything but pain

anymore at all. Those who know that they are ugly, dieing, unwanted, poor,

and who know that it will never end until death, they are the most spiritual

when they are of that mindset, the most free from all thoughts outside of

God. It's simply true. It's hope that keeps us bound to pain. I read the

writings of those in prison for political reasons, religious reasons. They

write like this about life prison mates, about those who will never see

freedom, will never have sex, will never have anything. Some of them pray

more sincerely than anyone else. This I understand. Hope, also Baba Ram Das

speaks about it's "againstness" towards spirit.

 

If anyone blasts me for being heavy and dark, I feel, they are very

fortunate, and I really am happy for them! I WISH I could share the view.

 

However, it won't change what I deal with every day, in myself, and many

around me physically, and on the phone, and on the web, and in the papers,

and what I see. Life is very hard. Spirit, prayer, God consciousness,

mediation, is the only answer for many, who's life and optimism do not have

the chance of Hollywood style satisfactions anymore.

 

But when I pray very sincerely, I DO get a break, and I DO see the light,

the birds, the clean air, the leaves falling, happy feelings come in me, and

I am happy, glad to be alive, glad to be of service, glad to live another

day, but I must stay there, stay praying, for very quickly comes back the

pain, when I see a woman, and think "why am I alone", or a few other key

thoughts and points in life, so prayer is the vitamins of my restless soul

and mind.

 

"Spirit, guide me, spirit, fill me, there is nothing but you, God, who

creates and provides for all, takes everything away from all, and in whom

all exist always. May I clearly think of you, spirit, god, truth, constancy

of your reality, and thus not suffer mental anxiety over the vanquishing of

the known to be fleating temporary manifestation, by you, in your whim"

 

The quotes are my own prayers, not quoted from somewhere. It's just the

ramblings of my ever prayerful head, my only solace.

 

I share this not to get attention, for nothing tangible to end my pain has

ever come of such writings, and I am clear on this, after trying for years.

I share this to share with those in pain, who are reading, I know, for they

tell me so regularly, with thanks. I share for them. This is for those who

need encouragement, as I do, without the lies that our pain isn't real, for

we know it is real, though we are trying to rise above it, which is also a

real possibility, but hard.

 

As for just getting out and getting over it, yeah, I agree, but then why are

so many of us always here? It's hard. That's all. It's hard. That's what

the hard parts of the chart are about- especially Saturn- blockages. Healing

is removing them. Let there be healers everwhere. As Mast Chun Yi Linn of

QiKong says, "A healer in every family, a world without pain".

 

Yes!

 

 

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