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As most of you know, I am attempting to integrate medical astrology in to my

Ayurvedic practice. I have seen pretty go results with my clients but I can't

seem to put a finger on my own problem. I am good at seeing the forest through

the trees, so maybe I am just to close. There is an old saying that a physician

who has himself as a client, has a fool for a client!

It all started three years ago with extreme pain in my legs. I work at a

large health food store as a product consultant and stand on hard floors all

day, So I thought this was a reasonable side effect of my job. But six months

latter the pain got worse and then my legs went numb, which I thought was a

blessing at the time.Then a burning started from my low back and on a bad day

would run up under my crouch into my testicles down my penis, down my legs, and

eventually up my back.

Two weeks ago they did a M.R.I. and found nothing !

Yesterday morning I had a burning in my chest and then I got cold and became

light headed. My wife pick me up from work took me to the ER. They ran an EKG.

took an x-ray. took blood for glucose and carbon dioxide levels. and once

again found nothing. I have more test coming up to day and we'll see! I guess!

Anyway all I can see is Saturn retrograding in my 4th house (heart, chest)

If some of you wouldn't mind taking a look at my chart for me I would be grateful.

 

Date 12/16/1950

time 12:07:00

place Covina, CA. USA

latit 34,5,24 North

long 117,53,22 West

 

PS. I have been wearing a 117 carat citrine as a pendent since Jupiter is my weakest planet.

 

Thank You and bless all of you ..... Noel .....

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Noel -

 

I learned many things in the Marine Corps, but one thing stood out - Take Care

of Your Feet! I don't buy or wear "plastic" shoes, only cloth or leather. I wear

Dr. Scholl's pads if the shoes themselves don't have enough padding (and even

sometimes when they do. I walk barefoot in the house as often as possible. Why?

Because it promotes flexibility in the feet and stimulates various energy points in

them.

 

This brings me to the point - it sounds like you have a pinched nerve. The nerve

does not necessarily have to be "pinched" by anything "physical". This could explain

the lack of data from the x-rays, etc. You might have a blockage in one of your "ki"

paths. There are several ways to try to treat this, but without seeing exactly how

you are moving, etc. I can't give you any advice other than to try to get some good

soft shoes. And try to do some streching in the morning, but start GENTLY. This

will help get the ki moving again. But ask your doctor about it first.

 

Best Regards, Martin Michaels ----------------------- Sr. Consultant

SBC-Ameritech 317-265-1143 mm6365 (AT) sbc (DOT) com ------------------------------ Sr.

Systems Analyst Nirvana Consulting 317-902-9432 gadgetcoder

'This work we do, It's not "rocket science"... It's much, MUCH harder.'

 

Noel [sattva (AT) pacbell (DOT) net]Tuesday,

November 19, 2002 12:50 PMgjlistSubject: [GJ] A little help

please!

As most of you know, I am attempting to integrate medical astrology in to my

Ayurvedic practice. I have seen pretty go results with my clients but I can't

seem to put a finger on my own problem. I am good at seeing the forest through

the trees, so maybe I am just to close. There is an old saying that a physician

who has himself as a client, has a fool for a client!

It all started three years ago with extreme pain in my legs. I work at a

large health food store as a product consultant and stand on hard floors all

day, So I thought this was a reasonable side effect of my job. But six months

latter the pain got worse and then my legs went numb, which I thought was a

blessing at the time.Then a burning started from my low back and on a bad day

would run up under my crouch into my testicles down my penis, down my legs, and

eventually up my back.

Two weeks ago they did a M.R.I. and found nothing !

Yesterday morning I had a burning in my chest and then I got cold and became

light headed. My wife pick me up from work took me to the ER. They ran an EKG.

took an x-ray. took blood for glucose and carbon dioxide levels. and once

again found nothing. I have more test coming up to day and we'll see! I guess!

Anyway all I can see is Saturn retrograding in my 4th house (heart, chest)

If some of you wouldn't mind taking a look at my chart for me I would be grateful.

 

Date 12/16/1950

time 12:07:00

place Covina, CA. USA

latit 34,5,24 North

long 117,53,22 West

 

PS. I have been wearing a 117 carat citrine as a pendent since Jupiter is my weakest planet.

 

Thank You and bless all of you ..... Noel .....Om Namo

Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat:

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Dear Martin

Thanks for your reply. I have been wearing SAS shoes at the tune of $140.00

a shot for the past three years. I alternate back and forth with Dr. Scholl's

pads. I must admit, now that I think back, it did start with a knot in the

bottom of my left foot and my left leg is about 20% worse then my right. I

have had acupuncture, massage and you name it! I had forgotten about the knot.

but it is still there. It seemed to be irrelevant compared to everything else.

I still believe that most disease is the planets pushing us in a certain

direction to manifest our dharma & karma. Saturn is opposing my tenth house now

which is Sagittarius, legs, hips, joints So on! but this doesn't explain why it

started three years ago!

I will give that knot on my left foot some thought, I haven't been able to

rub it out???

THANKS AGAIN AND BLESS YOU .... NOEL....

-

MICHAELS, MARTIN (AIT)

'gjlist'

Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:37 AM

RE: [GJ] A little help please!

Noel -

 

I learned many things in the Marine Corps, but one thing stood out - Take Care

of Your Feet! I don't buy or wear "plastic" shoes, only cloth or leather. I wear

Dr. Scholl's pads if the shoes themselves don't have enough padding (and even

sometimes when they do. I walk barefoot in the house as often as possible. Why?

Because it promotes flexibility in the feet and stimulates various energy points in

them.

 

This brings me to the point - it sounds like you have a pinched nerve. The nerve

does not necessarily have to be "pinched" by anything "physical". This could explain

the lack of data from the x-rays, etc. You might have a blockage in one of your "ki"

paths. There are several ways to try to treat this, but without seeing exactly how

you are moving, etc. I can't give you any advice other than to try to get some good

soft shoes. And try to do some streching in the morning, but start GENTLY. This

will help get the ki moving again. But ask your doctor about it first.

 

Best Regards, Martin Michaels ----------------------- Sr. Consultant

SBC-Ameritech 317-265-1143 mm6365 (AT) sbc (DOT) com ------------------------------ Sr.

Systems Analyst Nirvana Consulting 317-902-9432 gadgetcoder

'This work we do, It's not "rocket science"... It's much, MUCH harder.'

 

Noel [sattva (AT) pacbell (DOT) net]Tuesday,

November 19, 2002 12:50 PMgjlistSubject: [GJ] A little help

please!

As most of you know, I am attempting to integrate medical astrology in to my

Ayurvedic practice. I have seen pretty go results with my clients but I can't

seem to put a finger on my own problem. I am good at seeing the forest through

the trees, so maybe I am just to close. There is an old saying that a physician

who has himself as a client, has a fool for a client!

It all started three years ago with extreme pain in my legs. I work at a

large health food store as a product consultant and stand on hard floors all

day, So I thought this was a reasonable side effect of my job. But six months

latter the pain got worse and then my legs went numb, which I thought was a

blessing at the time.Then a burning started from my low back and on a bad day

would run up under my crouch into my testicles down my penis, down my legs, and

eventually up my back.

Two weeks ago they did a M.R.I. and found nothing !

Yesterday morning I had a burning in my chest and then I got cold and became

light headed. My wife pick me up from work took me to the ER. They ran an EKG.

took an x-ray. took blood for glucose and carbon dioxide levels. and once

again found nothing. I have more test coming up to day and we'll see! I guess!

Anyway all I can see is Saturn retrograding in my 4th house (heart, chest)

If some of you wouldn't mind taking a look at my chart for me I would be grateful.

 

Date 12/16/1950

time 12:07:00

place Covina, CA. USA

latit 34,5,24 North

long 117,53,22 West

 

PS. I have been wearing a 117 carat citrine as a pendent since Jupiter is my weakest planet.

 

Thank You and bless all of you ..... Noel .....Om Namo

Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat:

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Krishna; Om Tat Sat:

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Dear Noel,

I tried to search for a planet ,for use as a stone , but could not find any. All

have some defects on health point of view.

Even the stone you are using is strengthen your Asc only through 12th. That is

it helps through medicines.

5th lord moon(negation to disease) is afflicted by nodes and Saturn.Saturn

11th(negation to loss , gain to health) lord is 7th occupant and is in the

constellation of Sun , the 6th lord.

So i could not trace any planet whose stone you can use for health purpose.

In Venus Mahadasha , Rahu Jupiter Saturn Ketu all will give you health problems

and will make you a learner in medicines.

But to keep the things under control do recite Maha Mritu Jai Mantra.From 16th

Nov 2002 you are under Venus-Sat-Sun.

Not good for health , even Saturn is in Sun constellation, your 6th house lord.

So try with Mritu Jai Mantras and regular medicines.Only this will control your health problems.

Also don't experiment with your own self, because i can see you often changing

medicines or Doctor on a little suspicion. Make your selections of Doctors or

medicines only on Tuesday or Monday or when Moon transit such constellation

which is ruled by Moon or Mars. Among them constellation of Moon and Mars in

Capricorn is best.It is your 11th house.

With best wishes.

Inder Jit Sahni

House No. 1351-HIG, Model Town, Phase-1, Bhatinda-151001

Pb.<India>hanskpvedic

-

Noel

gjlist

Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:20 PM

[GJ] A little help please!

As most of you know, I am attempting to integrate medical astrology in to my

Ayurvedic practice. I have seen pretty go results with my clients but I can't

seem to put a finger on my own problem. I am good at seeing the forest through

the trees, so maybe I am just to close. There is an old saying that a physician

who has himself as a client, has a fool for a client!

It all started three years ago with extreme pain in my legs. I work at a

large health food store as a product consultant and stand on hard floors all

day, So I thought this was a reasonable side effect of my job. But six months

latter the pain got worse and then my legs went numb, which I thought was a

blessing at the time.Then a burning started from my low back and on a bad day

would run up under my crouch into my testicles down my penis, down my legs, and

eventually up my back.

Two weeks ago they did a M.R.I. and found nothing !

Yesterday morning I had a burning in my chest and then I got cold and became

light headed. My wife pick me up from work took me to the ER. They ran an EKG.

took an x-ray. took blood for glucose and carbon dioxide levels. and once

again found nothing. I have more test coming up to day and we'll see! I guess!

Anyway all I can see is Saturn retrograding in my 4th house (heart, chest)

If some of you wouldn't mind taking a look at my chart for me I would be grateful.

 

Date 12/16/1950

time 12:07:00

place Covina, CA. USA

latit 34,5,24 North

long 117,53,22 West

 

PS. I have been wearing a 117 carat citrine as a pendent since Jupiter is my weakest planet.

 

Thank You and bless all of you ..... Noel .....Om Namo

Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat:

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Hi Noel,

I am a new member of this group.

Although you have rcvd some posts from the group concerning your

health, I think I should add some of my ideas as another viewpoint.

You didn't state whether your tob is AM or PM. I think it's 10:07 PM to

give a 4:54 Pisces asc and the Moon will be your 5th lord. Saturn will

transit your 4th house as you stated.

Narinder used 10:07AM birth time.

Inder jit used 10:07 PM but the antardasha differs from my result, using

365.25 day/year

 

In your natal chart, Jupiter is in the 12th house thus weak, as you have

stated and should be strengthened.

The 12th lord, Saturn(the dispo of Ju), thus treated as a functional

malefic, aspects the Moon from the 10th house and aspects asc close to

it's degree.

Any planet in close conj/asp to asc's degree(+/- 5) will initiate the sig. of

the houses it conj/asp+ the sig of that planet(in this case Sa), and the

house they own( malefic 12th house) when the relevant period /subp

operate and the transit combinations play the same tune.

In your case, Sa afflicts the 7th, 9th, 1st and 4th house. The 12th house

(feet/hospitalisation) is also weakened to a certain degree.

The 1/7 axis(especially the cancer/cap axis) + Sa +Su+Ra/Ku are

special combinations for the spine.(with +/- 5 orb, my observations only).

The 4th house rep. heart and lungs while the 9th rep. thighs.

The effect will be more pronounced if the lords/significators of the

corresponding houses are also weak and afflicted.

The Sun is weak in infant stage and weak dispo.

The 4th house afflicted+ weak Sun indicate weak heart and will be

initiated in the relevant sub-period + transit.

You are in Ve/sa/Ra , all functional malefics, with Sa as initiator of your

health problems. Ra is also close to asc degree in your natal chart,

aspecting the 1,3,5,7,9 and 11th house.

During Nov18-19, 2002, Sa was transiting the 4th house( very close to

asc degree )of heart, aspecting the 6th house of sickness and the 10th

house of knee and asc( you).

You should use the logic AND GATE to get the result!!

Sa also aspected the natal Sun(sig for heart) and Ra ( the mysterious

shadow).

Transiting lord of the4th house( heart), Me ( nerves) was in Scorpio,

afflicted by natal Sa from Me's sign/ house!!

Transiting Sun was also afflicted by natal Ra while the Sun himself,

being the 6th lord, also afflicted Me. and the 3rd house of movements.

>From these combinations, you can see clearly how you have

experienced the heart problem and the doctor couldn't find the cause(

because of the Sa's aspect to Ra).

On Dec 6 and Dec 16 (next month), combinations of transiting planets

may result in heart and legs pain again.

The planets that should be strengthened (during these short periods)

are the Sun (+ afflicted natal Moon for general immune) and Mercury

while Sa and Ru should be propitiated.

You should try using KAVACH. Pls contact prof V.K.Choudhry for

informations.

Another inauspicious period will be the next Feb- Mar and June.

Pls be noted that Sa is still retro and will set free your asc around June

next year but will start to afflict the natal Moon and Venus while Ketu

will aspect the asc.

Best regards,

Harit Kashemsanta.

 

 

gjlist, Noel <sattva@p...> wrote:

> As most of you know, I am attempting to integrate medical

astrology in to my Ayurvedic practice. I have seen pretty go results with

my clients but I can't seem to put a finger on my own problem. I am

good at seeing the forest through the trees, so maybe I am just to close.

There is an old saying that a physician who has himself as a client, has

a fool for a client!

> It all started three years ago with extreme pain in my legs. I work

at a large health food store as a product consultant and stand on hard

floors all day, So I thought this was a reasonable side effect of my job.

But six months latter the pain got worse and then my legs went numb,

which I thought was a blessing at the time.Then a burning started from

my low back and on a bad day would run up under my crouch into my

testicles down my penis, down my legs, and eventually up my back.

> Two weeks ago they did a M.R.I. and found nothing !

> Yesterday morning I had a burning in my chest and then I got cold

and became light headed. My wife pick me up from work took me to the

ER. They ran an EKG. took an x-ray. took blood for glucose and carbon

dioxide levels. and once again found nothing. I have more test coming

up to day and we'll see! I guess!

> Anyway all I can see is Saturn retrograding in my 4th house (heart,

chest)

> If some of you wouldn't mind taking a look at my chart for me I would

be grateful.

>

> Date 12/16/1950

> time 12:07:00

> place Covina, CA. USA

> latit 34,5,24 North

> long 117,53,22 West

>

> PS. I have been wearing a 117 carat citrine as a pendent since Jupiter

is my weakest planet.

>

> Thank You and bless all of you ..... Noel .....

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Hi Harit

Sorry for the confusion; It is 12:07 AM.

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Harit Kashemsanta <harit2000

<gjlist>

Friday, November 22, 2002 3:50 AM

[GJ] Re: A little help please!

 

 

> Hi Noel,

> I am a new member of this group.

> Although you have rcvd some posts from the group concerning your

> health, I think I should add some of my ideas as another viewpoint.

> You didn't state whether your tob is AM or PM. I think it's 10:07 PM to

> give a 4:54 Pisces asc and the Moon will be your 5th lord. Saturn will

> transit your 4th house as you stated.

> Narinder used 10:07AM birth time.

> Inder jit used 10:07 PM but the antardasha differs from my result, using

> 365.25 day/year

>

> In your natal chart, Jupiter is in the 12th house thus weak, as you have

> stated and should be strengthened.

> The 12th lord, Saturn(the dispo of Ju), thus treated as a functional

> malefic, aspects the Moon from the 10th house and aspects asc close to

> it's degree.

> Any planet in close conj/asp to asc's degree(+/- 5) will initiate the sig.

of

> the houses it conj/asp+ the sig of that planet(in this case Sa), and the

> house they own( malefic 12th house) when the relevant period /subp

> operate and the transit combinations play the same tune.

> In your case, Sa afflicts the 7th, 9th, 1st and 4th house. The 12th house

> (feet/hospitalisation) is also weakened to a certain degree.

> The 1/7 axis(especially the cancer/cap axis) + Sa +Su+Ra/Ku are

> special combinations for the spine.(with +/- 5 orb, my observations only).

> The 4th house rep. heart and lungs while the 9th rep. thighs.

> The effect will be more pronounced if the lords/significators of the

> corresponding houses are also weak and afflicted.

> The Sun is weak in infant stage and weak dispo.

> The 4th house afflicted+ weak Sun indicate weak heart and will be

> initiated in the relevant sub-period + transit.

> You are in Ve/sa/Ra , all functional malefics, with Sa as initiator of

your

> health problems. Ra is also close to asc degree in your natal chart,

> aspecting the 1,3,5,7,9 and 11th house.

> During Nov18-19, 2002, Sa was transiting the 4th house( very close to

> asc degree )of heart, aspecting the 6th house of sickness and the 10th

> house of knee and asc( you).

> You should use the logic AND GATE to get the result!!

> Sa also aspected the natal Sun(sig for heart) and Ra ( the mysterious

> shadow).

> Transiting lord of the4th house( heart), Me ( nerves) was in Scorpio,

> afflicted by natal Sa from Me's sign/ house!!

> Transiting Sun was also afflicted by natal Ra while the Sun himself,

> being the 6th lord, also afflicted Me. and the 3rd house of movements.

> From these combinations, you can see clearly how you have

> experienced the heart problem and the doctor couldn't find the cause(

> because of the Sa's aspect to Ra).

> On Dec 6 and Dec 16 (next month), combinations of transiting planets

> may result in heart and legs pain again.

> The planets that should be strengthened (during these short periods)

> are the Sun (+ afflicted natal Moon for general immune) and Mercury

> while Sa and Ru should be propitiated.

> You should try using KAVACH. Pls contact prof V.K.Choudhry for

> informations.

> Another inauspicious period will be the next Feb- Mar and June.

> Pls be noted that Sa is still retro and will set free your asc around June

> next year but will start to afflict the natal Moon and Venus while Ketu

> will aspect the asc.

> Best regards,

> Harit Kashemsanta.

>

>

> gjlist, Noel <sattva@p...> wrote:

> > As most of you know, I am attempting to integrate medical

> astrology in to my Ayurvedic practice. I have seen pretty go results with

> my clients but I can't seem to put a finger on my own problem. I am

> good at seeing the forest through the trees, so maybe I am just to close.

> There is an old saying that a physician who has himself as a client, has

> a fool for a client!

> > It all started three years ago with extreme pain in my legs. I work

> at a large health food store as a product consultant and stand on hard

> floors all day, So I thought this was a reasonable side effect of my job.

> But six months latter the pain got worse and then my legs went numb,

> which I thought was a blessing at the time.Then a burning started from

> my low back and on a bad day would run up under my crouch into my

> testicles down my penis, down my legs, and eventually up my back.

> > Two weeks ago they did a M.R.I. and found nothing !

> > Yesterday morning I had a burning in my chest and then I got cold

> and became light headed. My wife pick me up from work took me to the

> ER. They ran an EKG. took an x-ray. took blood for glucose and carbon

> dioxide levels. and once again found nothing. I have more test coming

> up to day and we'll see! I guess!

> > Anyway all I can see is Saturn retrograding in my 4th house (heart,

> chest)

> > If some of you wouldn't mind taking a look at my chart for me I would

> be grateful.

> >

> > Date 12/16/1950

> > time 12:07:00

> > place Covina, CA. USA

> > latit 34,5,24 North

> > long 117,53,22 West

> >

> > PS. I have been wearing a 117 carat citrine as a pendent since Jupiter

> is my weakest planet.

> >

> > Thank You and bless all of you ..... Noel .....

>

>

>

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> : gjlist-

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

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