Guest guest Posted February 4, 2002 Report Share Posted February 4, 2002 Dear NAtabara I knew you would dialogue with me on this <grins> <<I would also like to begin a discussion on the Karma of predicting mass destruction or chaos.>> me It is my preference not to be the predictor of bad news. When that comes i do give the news in riddles. Most people are not prepared to confront their destiny and we should avoid causing worries, because by doing so, we get part of the karma. [c] Ahh, that makes sense. When we are focused in on the events of others we do not hear what we need to address within ourselves. I have a deepe sense that what is described as "life review" at the time of death is true. If so, then I would assume that the astrologer who predicts destruction would review the impact of that prediction upon those who took it to heart or believed that the astrologer knew just what was to happen. Then again, I believe that we are each responsible for our thoughts and that these predictions as they are rendered untrue, may in fact help those who suffere from such anxiety to gain perspective. you <<What is the responsibility of the astrologer for his or her words?>> me A great responsibility indeed. That is why we should cultivate a pure life within and without. We should avoid unethical practices. For the untrained eye any astrologer may look the same but for those in the know, they know better. The external dress should not be the landmark to judge but the activities. you <<What does it say about astrologers when as a whole most appear to be seeking the next big calamity rather than the next great opportunity?>> me It can be the search for fame and glory. Vedic astrology by being a divine science can give in good time the right information to the right astrologer. I know of astrologers that dont look for personal gain but to help in the natural developing of karma. We are here to help others and not to cause anxieties. [c] Thank you we are in much agreement here. I was asked if one could prmote my little newsletter after Sept. 11th. I said no thank you. I have no doubt of the origin of the installments that month. They were no from my ego and I was depressed the whole time I wrote it. I put the planner out there for those who need insight and help getting through the days, weeks and months of life. My intent is to ease the stress not cause it. I knew immediately that publicity would bring folks who would be drawn to prediction rather than insight. I never lose sight of where the information "ultimately" comes from. It is not from my intellect or skill but from the sense of connection to the planets as I feel them and the stories of the nakshatras as they reveal themselves. I suspect that the rich and subtle insight of astrology will ever be elusive to those who want it for fame. Even if fame comes, it will be short-lived as astrology is deeper and richer than the mundane world. The astrologer Caroline CAsey called astrology a mystery school cleverly disguised as a language of human understanding....or something like that. again, than you for the dialogue. What do you make of the nak. Mrigashira holding Rahu, Mars, Venus and the Moon while Saturn lingers in Rohini? cynthiaOm Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo , send an email to: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2002 Report Share Posted February 6, 2002 you <<again, than you for the dialogue. What do you make of the nak. Mrigashira holding Rahu, Mars, Venus and the Moon while Saturn lingers in Rohini?>> In my own experience, the more planets we see together in a sign or constellation, the more complexity of forces we will see sooner or later. Mrigasira is ruled by the Mars and Mars by being in his own constellation becomes very strong. That strength is shared among the other planets that are together in there. We can see there, Venus and the Moon, therefore the strength of those 2 planets is also given to their host planet Saturn. {cyn} Here I agree, and I do see the Nakshatras as reflecting the planet that is lord of the mansion. I happen to have Mars in Mrig. I have strange eyes, and often times my vision is a little distorted but I can "see" things that others cannot. I am not a particularly angry or venomnous person so Mars is more for cutting through the trappings. I use it with clients to help point to the knots that have to untie. For this reason, I have difficulty seeing the planets in Mrig. begin particuarly evil. I suspect that we will "see" what needs to be done and it will signal a time of rebuilding. I like Saturn as the anchor of these planets in Rohini. She likes to be liked and offers a sense of rooting or grounding to the whole stellium. If we simply look at the malefics all being involved I can see where false illusion will be shattered. That may well manifest as military action, but it may also manifst as "Truth" appearing in the nightly news. There are many Indian tribes in Mexico. One of them is called Mixtecos. The Mixtecos are called the Deer People. They are the only tribe in all Mexico to keep the Mexican chronology, and they are as well the keepers of the sacred mushroom. The Sacred mushroom is so sacred to them that nobody among them and below the age of 60, is allowed to ingest it. They have many shamans or brujos y brujas as well. {cyn} Could you speak a little more about these people? "To seek, look for, to search through, to strive, to attain, to request, ask, solicit, beg, beggar, to purify, adorn, to visit, frequent, pointing out the way, the leader, tracing out, to investigate, to examine. Portion of the human body-The eyes." So, in my opinion, i can answer that the planetary combination that you mention is indicating that all those ideas already quoted, will become more prominent to people. Especially to those that have a connection with those constellations or people. I have to add that Srila Prabhupada has The Moon in Mrigasira and therefore his books are very likely to become prominent and helpful to many. Best wishes Natabara Das Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo , send an email to: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2003 Report Share Posted February 21, 2003 Carol, Much thanks. Do the nodes count as a planet? My assumption is luminaries are the Sun/Moon? As usual, your explanations are clear to even a novice. Much thanks, chrys333 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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