chidren (was 8th house stellium)

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Dear Cynthia and list,

 

here is the other woman's date of birth: 10th May 1958 - the rising degree

is 10 Libra.

As I mentioned, this woman has 8 (!) children and though she has no

stellium, I was impressed by the following similarities:

(let's call the chart you gave "A" and this other chart "B")

 

- the rising degree of the 2 charts are very close in Libra, so if we

consider chart A to have the rising minute in the first part of the 12th

degree, we would have both charts with a Sagittarius saptamsa lagna

- In saptamsa both charts have Jupiter (natural karaka for children and lord

of Saptamsa lagna) associated with Sun (rasi 11th lord of gains and D-7 9th

lord) in a kama house (in the 11th for B and in the 3rd for A)

- another possibly interesting point in Saptamsa is that Saturn (Rasi's 5th

lord) is posited either in Jupiter's sign (chart B) or in Jupiter's

exaltation sign (chart A)

- in the rasi chart 5th lord Saturn is either posited in the 5th (chart A)

or aspects it (chart B), which is beneficial to the 5th

(as a side note, B started having these 8 children only after 30 years old,

which could signify saturn's propensity for delays -

anyway they were born in her Jupiter and Saturn mahadasas)

- in chart B Mars (the 7th lord for husband and second lord for family) is

in the 5th, while in chart A Mars from the 11th exactly aspects Saturn in

the 5th! Husbands busy producing children :-)?

- both have Jupiter with Rahu in a Venusian sign

- both have Mercury (lording the 12th house of "bed pleasures") in extreme

infancy, though in different placements - any idea on this?

- both have Capricorn rising in Navamsha, with Saturn (the main chart's 5th

lord) debilitated in the 4th: children creating a lot of stressful hard work

in the home?

 

I may have missed other important points and I'll be glad to have your

views

 

I'm forwarding this to the other list

regards

Maddalena

 

-

"cynthianovak" <cynthianovak

<gjlist>

Thursday, February 27, 2003 3:39 PM

Re: [GJ] Re: 8th house stellium

 

 

> I think that would be fine. The context it limited. When a person has so

> many 8th house planets I know they are sensitive to discussions about them

> <grins>. I really have no contact with this women, but find the Saturn in

> the 5th with 5 children pretty remarkable. BTW, the children have at

least

> a few different fathers and at least one has significant "special needs".

> Karma worked out through children?

> c

>

> -

> "Maddalena" <mcecc88

> <gjlist>

> Thursday, February 27, 2003 5:31 AM

> Re: [GJ] Re: 8th house stellium

>

>

> > Hi Cynthia,

> >

> > thank you for the feedback.

> > I found some amazing similarities with another chart which was given as

a

> > quiz about children on another list quite recently.

> > This other woman had 8 children.

> > If you and the member on the other list both consent to my posting the

> data

> > (the date and lagna degree as you have given perhaps) across the lists,

I

> > think it might be of interest.

> > How about this?

> >

> > best

> > Maddalena

> >

> > -

> > "cynthianovak" <cynthianovak

> > <gjlist>

> > Wednesday, February 26, 2003 7:36 PM

> > Re: [GJ] Re: 8th house stellium

> >

> >

> > > Sure

> > > It was really only a little temptation so you would ask: Would you

> > believe

> > > 5!?!

> > > c

> > > -

> > > "Maddalena" <mcecc88

> > > <gjlist>

> > > Wednesday, February 26, 2003 10:28 AM

> > > Re: [GJ] Re: 8th house stellium

> > >

> > >

> > > > Dear Cynthia,

> > > >

> > > > > 29 May 1965 Lagna 12 Libra

> > > > > I know this woman is on a spiritual path.

> > > > > Anyone care to guess how many children? If it does not surprise

> > > you...as

> > > > it

> > > > > did me that she even had children my hat is off to you. This is

an

> > > > example

> > > > > of how a stellium can really surprise you.

> > > >

> > > > It would be great if you could tell us how many children she had,

if

> > this

> > > > is ok with you.

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > Maddalena

> > > >