Guest guest Posted March 2, 2003 Report Share Posted March 2, 2003 If you equally devided population on earth according to moon sign, then at least 400000000 people will face the sadasati at same time. Do you think everyone will get same effect? It depends on so many other factor aslo like position of moon and saturn in chart etc. I have seen people enjoying golden time of life in sadasati. Tushar --- sonia tanganchi <dhanus10 wrote: > > Dear Experts on the list > As we are on the subject of Sade Sati, I was > wondering if anyone has tested the results of Panoti > Yoga? > > James Braha wrote that Sade Sati is not ALWAYS a > grief-producing period. as generally thought. He > said that one shud look into a technique called > Panoti Yoga which will reveal whether each > particular Sade Sati period will be good, bad or > terrible. > > Quoting from his book : > > “U have to determine the Moon’s sign placement (in > the heavens) during the exact moment when Saturn > begins to transit the house preceding the natal > Moon, the house of the natal Moon and the house > following the natal Moon. In other words, each > two-and-a-half-year period within the > seven-and-a-half Sade Sati will have its own > positive or negative effects by virtue of Panoti > Yoga”. > > And the rule is “When the Moon in the sky at the > moment of Saturn’s current ingress into each of the > three Sade Sati sign occupies : > > 1) the 1st, 6th or 11th sign/house from the > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of > gold and the results are bad. > > 2) The 2nd, 5th or 9th sign/house from the > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of > silver and the results are good. > > 3) the 3rd,, 7th or 10th sign/house from the > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of > silver and the results are good. > > 4) The 4th, 8th or 12th sign/house from the > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of > iron and the results are terrible” > > I have not tried out the method myself yet as it is > a rather tedious process without the computer > program to calculate the ingress (Some excuse ! > )))) ). BTW, does anyone know of any free software > that does it ? > > Sonia, > > the novice > Mu'Min Bey <mumin_bey wrote:All, > > I just remembered - GWB has his Moon in Virgo; this > means that he will be double-whammied by Sade Sati; > as > soon as it finishes with his ASc, it will then start > with his Moon. I think he has just started Saturn > Dasa, again, I have to check but he is in the > general > Dasa period. The Moon plays an ultra important role > as > it is the ruler of the Asc itself. Wow. > > We'll see. > > Salaam, > Mu > --- Mu'Min Bey wrote: > > Rob, Nick, Cynthia, All, > > > > Good discussion on GWB. Here are my thoughts. > > > > As many of you know, I do not use the Dasas as > many > > often do; I use Asc position over the Moon's ain > all > > cases. Accoding to that, as well as the Sade Sati > > transit in progress, GWB has to watch his back. I > > don't have the chart in front of me right now, but > I > > think he's running Saturn Dasa, which is not good > > for > > him. Have to check but if memory serves, that is > the > > case. > > > > Bush's chart shwos his two sides, as well as his > > theft > > of the 2000 elections. The KSY that everyone > > mentions > > is the linchpin in the entire chart, as is the > > prescence of SAturn in the Asc, ruling the 8tth > > house > > of intrigues and scandals. Of course, the 8th also > > represents assassinations, and we know that there > > has > > already been attempts on his life, going back to > Sep > > 11. > > > > Saf-de Sati transits are almost always profound > > times > > of loss in one's life. Often times, it can > represent > > the loss of a praent, and it is certainly possible > > that GWB could lose his own father or mother under > > it. > > It is also possible that he could lose his own > life, > > and even if it isn't literally, politically. It is > > extremely difficult to mount anything successful > > under > > a Sade Sati transit, and he has this in progress > > over > > his Asc; at the time of Sep 11, it hadn't started, > > but > > has since. As GWB's chart represents the USA as a > > whole, we can see the profound economic losses > > everyone here is undergoing at this time, and it > is > > not likely to get much better. Note the transit of > > Jupiter going thru Bush';s ASc, it barely > registers > > a > > blip on the radar screen. SS says it all. > > > > Your serve... > > > > Salaam, > > Mu > > > > > > > > ===== > > Mu'Min M. Bey > > Western and Vedic Astrologer > > Priority Email: jedimu11 > > AOL IM Screen Name: JediMu > > 267-467-5158 > > Join the Pan Astrological Forum, Where Freedom in > > Astrological Thought Lives! 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Guest guest Posted March 3, 2003 Report Share Posted March 3, 2003 Dear Mr Tushar, You are thinking in right direction. According to my experience Sade Satti has no practical relevance. With best Wishes. Narinder Juneja. www.MyWebAstrologer.com K-3/22, Basement, DLF phase-2, Gurgaon-122002, Haryana. INDIA Ph.91-124-2564567, 5014567, mobile-091-9810058186 - "tushar trivedi" <tushar_9 <gjlist> Monday, March 03, 2003 11:12 AM Re: [GJ] Sade Sati & Panoti Yoga (To Sonia) > If you equally devided population on earth according > to moon sign, then at least 400000000 people will face > the sadasati at same time. Do you think everyone will > get same effect? > > It depends on so many other factor aslo like position > of moon and saturn in chart etc. > > I have seen people enjoying golden time of life in > sadasati. > > Tushar > > > --- sonia tanganchi <dhanus10 wrote: > > > > Dear Experts on the list > > As we are on the subject of Sade Sati, I was > > wondering if anyone has tested the results of Panoti > > Yoga? > > > > James Braha wrote that Sade Sati is not ALWAYS a > > grief-producing period. as generally thought. He > > said that one shud look into a technique called > > Panoti Yoga which will reveal whether each > > particular Sade Sati period will be good, bad or > > terrible. > > > > Quoting from his book : > > > > "U have to determine the Moon's sign placement (in > > the heavens) during the exact moment when Saturn > > begins to transit the house preceding the natal > > Moon, the house of the natal Moon and the house > > following the natal Moon. In other words, each > > two-and-a-half-year period within the > > seven-and-a-half Sade Sati will have its own > > positive or negative effects by virtue of Panoti > > Yoga". > > > > And the rule is "When the Moon in the sky at the > > moment of Saturn's current ingress into each of the > > three Sade Sati sign occupies : > > > > 1) the 1st, 6th or 11th sign/house from the > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of > > gold and the results are bad. > > > > 2) The 2nd, 5th or 9th sign/house from the > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of > > silver and the results are good. > > > > 3) the 3rd,, 7th or 10th sign/house from the > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of > > silver and the results are good. > > > > 4) The 4th, 8th or 12th sign/house from the > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of > > iron and the results are terrible" > > > > I have not tried out the method myself yet as it is > > a rather tedious process without the computer > > program to calculate the ingress (Some excuse ! > > )))) ). BTW, does anyone know of any free software > > that does it ? > > > > Sonia, > > > > the novice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mu'Min Bey <mumin_bey wrote:All, > > > > I just remembered - GWB has his Moon in Virgo; this > > means that he will be double-whammied by Sade Sati; > > as > > soon as it finishes with his ASc, it will then start > > with his Moon. I think he has just started Saturn > > Dasa, again, I have to check but he is in the > > general > > Dasa period. The Moon plays an ultra important role > > as > > it is the ruler of the Asc itself. Wow. > > > > We'll see. > > > > Salaam, > > Mu > > --- Mu'Min Bey wrote: > > > Rob, Nick, Cynthia, All, > > > > > > Good discussion on GWB. Here are my thoughts. > > > > > > As many of you know, I do not use the Dasas as > > many > > > often do; I use Asc position over the Moon's ain > > all > > > cases. Accoding to that, as well as the Sade Sati > > > transit in progress, GWB has to watch his back. I > > > don't have the chart in front of me right now, but > > I > > > think he's running Saturn Dasa, which is not good > > > for > > > him. Have to check but if memory serves, that is > > the > > > case. > > > > > > Bush's chart shwos his two sides, as well as his > > > theft > > > of the 2000 elections. The KSY that everyone > > > mentions > > > is the linchpin in the entire chart, as is the > > > prescence of SAturn in the Asc, ruling the 8tth > > > house > > > of intrigues and scandals. Of course, the 8th also > > > represents assassinations, and we know that there > > > has > > > already been attempts on his life, going back to > > Sep > > > 11. > > > > > > Saf-de Sati transits are almost always profound > > > times > > > of loss in one's life. Often times, it can > > represent > > > the loss of a praent, and it is certainly possible > > > that GWB could lose his own father or mother under > > > it. > > > It is also possible that he could lose his own > > life, > > > and even if it isn't literally, politically. It is > > > extremely difficult to mount anything successful > > > under > > > a Sade Sati transit, and he has this in progress > > > over > > > his Asc; at the time of Sep 11, it hadn't started, > > > but > > > has since. As GWB's chart represents the USA as a > > > whole, we can see the profound economic losses > > > everyone here is undergoing at this time, and it > > is > > > not likely to get much better. Note the transit of > > > Jupiter going thru Bush';s ASc, it barely > > registers > > > a > > > blip on the radar screen. SS says it all. > > > > > > Your serve... > > > > > > Salaam, > > > Mu > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > Mu'Min M. 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Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 Dear Narinder, I don't agree that sade-sati has no practical relavance.There are a lot of troubles during this 3 house transit. In any case,saturn has a special relation with the position of the natal moon.Saturn connecting that point in transit leads to adverse situations -- especially within a degree or two -- whichever the aspect direct or 3,7,10. vivek. On Mon, 03 Mar 2003 Narinder Juneja wrote : > >Dear Mr Tushar, > >You are thinking in right direction. According to my experience >Sade Satti >has no practical relevance. > >With best Wishes. > >Narinder Juneja. >www.MyWebAstrologer.com >K-3/22, Basement, DLF phase-2, >Gurgaon-122002, Haryana. >INDIA >Ph.91-124-2564567, 5014567, >mobile-091-9810058186 >- > "tushar trivedi" <tushar_9 ><gjlist> >Monday, March 03, 2003 11:12 AM >Re: [GJ] Sade Sati & Panoti Yoga (To Sonia) > > > > If you equally devided population on earth according > > to moon sign, then at least 400000000 people will face > > the sadasati at same time. Do you think everyone will > > get same effect? > > > > It depends on so many other factor aslo like position > > of moon and saturn in chart etc. > > > > I have seen people enjoying golden time of life in > > sadasati. > > > > Tushar > > > > > > --- sonia tanganchi <dhanus10 wrote: > > > > > > Dear Experts on the list > > > As we are on the subject of Sade Sati, I was > > > wondering if anyone has tested the results of Panoti > > > Yoga? > > > > > > James Braha wrote that Sade Sati is not ALWAYS a > > > grief-producing period. as generally thought. He > > > said that one shud look into a technique called > > > Panoti Yoga which will reveal whether each > > > particular Sade Sati period will be good, bad or > > > terrible. > > > > > > Quoting from his book : > > > > > > "U have to determine the Moon's sign placement (in > > > the heavens) during the exact moment when Saturn > > > begins to transit the house preceding the natal > > > Moon, the house of the natal Moon and the house > > > following the natal Moon. In other words, each > > > two-and-a-half-year period within the > > > seven-and-a-half Sade Sati will have its own > > > positive or negative effects by virtue of Panoti > > > Yoga". > > > > > > And the rule is "When the Moon in the sky at the > > > moment of Saturn's current ingress into each of the > > > three Sade Sati sign occupies : > > > > > > 1) the 1st, 6th or 11th sign/house from the > > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of > > > gold and the results are bad. > > > > > > 2) The 2nd, 5th or 9th sign/house from the > > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of > > > silver and the results are good. > > > > > > 3) the 3rd,, 7th or 10th sign/house from the > > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of > > > silver and the results are good. > > > > > > 4) The 4th, 8th or 12th sign/house from the > > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of > > > iron and the results are terrible" > > > > > > I have not tried out the method myself yet as it is > > > a rather tedious process without the computer > > > program to calculate the ingress (Some excuse ! > > > )))) ). BTW, does anyone know of any free software > > > that does it ? > > > > > > Sonia, > > > > > > the novice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mu'Min Bey <mumin_bey wrote:All, > > > > > > I just remembered - GWB has his Moon in Virgo; this > > > means that he will be double-whammied by Sade Sati; > > > as > > > soon as it finishes with his ASc, it will then start > > > with his Moon. I think he has just started Saturn > > > Dasa, again, I have to check but he is in the > > > general > > > Dasa period. The Moon plays an ultra important role > > > as > > > it is the ruler of the Asc itself. Wow. > > > > > > We'll see. > > > > > > Salaam, > > > Mu > > > --- Mu'Min Bey wrote: > > > > Rob, Nick, Cynthia, All, > > > > > > > > Good discussion on GWB. Here are my thoughts. > > > > > > > > As many of you know, I do not use the Dasas as > > > many > > > > often do; I use Asc position over the Moon's ain > > > all > > > > cases. Accoding to that, as well as the Sade Sati > > > > transit in progress, GWB has to watch his back. I > > > > don't have the chart in front of me right now, but > > > I > > > > think he's running Saturn Dasa, which is not good > > > > for > > > > him. Have to check but if memory serves, that is > > > the > > > > case. > > > > > > > > Bush's chart shwos his two sides, as well as his > > > > theft > > > > of the 2000 elections. The KSY that everyone > > > > mentions > > > > is the linchpin in the entire chart, as is the > > > > prescence of SAturn in the Asc, ruling the 8tth > > > > house > > > > of intrigues and scandals. Of course, the 8th also > > > > represents assassinations, and we know that there > > > > has > > > > already been attempts on his life, going back to > > > Sep > > > > 11. > > > > > > > > Saf-de Sati transits are almost always profound > > > > times > > > > of loss in one's life. Often times, it can > > > represent > > > > the loss of a praent, and it is certainly possible > > > > that GWB could lose his own father or mother under > > > > it. > > > > It is also possible that he could lose his own > > > life, > > > > and even if it isn't literally, politically. It is > > > > extremely difficult to mount anything successful > > > > under > > > > a Sade Sati transit, and he has this in progress > > > > over > > > > his Asc; at the time of Sep 11, it hadn't started, > > > > but > > > > has since. As GWB's chart represents the USA as a > > > > whole, we can see the profound economic losses > > > > everyone here is undergoing at this time, and it > > > is > > > > not likely to get much better. Note the transit of > > > > Jupiter going thru Bush';s ASc, it barely > > > registers > > > > a > > > > blip on the radar screen. SS says it all. > > > > > > > > Your serve... > > > > > > > > Salaam, > > > > Mu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > Mu'Min M. 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Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 Dear Mr. Vivek, This is my view after going thru 50000 charts, however if you keep yourself busy with this divine science of astrology you will know the facts later on with experience. With best Wishes. Narinder Juneja. www.MyWebAstrologer.com K-3/22, Basement, DLF phase-2, Gurgaon-122002, Haryana. INDIA Ph.91-124-2564567, 5014567, mobile-091-9810058186 - "Vivek " <keviv90 <gjlist> Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:05 PM Re: Re: [GJ] Sade Sati & Panoti Yoga (To Sonia) > Dear Narinder, > I don't agree that sade-sati has no practical relavance.There are > a lot of troubles during this 3 house transit. > In any case,saturn has a special relation with the position of the > natal moon.Saturn connecting that point in transit leads to > adverse situations -- especially within a degree or two -- > whichever the aspect > direct or 3,7,10. > vivek. > > On Mon, 03 Mar 2003 Narinder Juneja wrote : > > > >Dear Mr Tushar, > > > >You are thinking in right direction. According to my experience > >Sade Satti > >has no practical relevance. > > > >With best Wishes. > > > >Narinder Juneja. > >www.MyWebAstrologer.com > >K-3/22, Basement, DLF phase-2, > >Gurgaon-122002, Haryana. > >INDIA > >Ph.91-124-2564567, 5014567, > >mobile-091-9810058186 > >- > > "tushar trivedi" <tushar_9 > ><gjlist> > >Monday, March 03, 2003 11:12 AM > >Re: [GJ] Sade Sati & Panoti Yoga (To Sonia) > > > > > > > If you equally devided population on earth according > > > to moon sign, then at least 400000000 people will face > > > the sadasati at same time. Do you think everyone will > > > get same effect? > > > > > > It depends on so many other factor aslo like position > > > of moon and saturn in chart etc. > > > > > > I have seen people enjoying golden time of life in > > > sadasati. > > > > > > Tushar > > > > > > > > > --- sonia tanganchi <dhanus10 wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Experts on the list > > > > As we are on the subject of Sade Sati, I was > > > > wondering if anyone has tested the results of Panoti > > > > Yoga? > > > > > > > > James Braha wrote that Sade Sati is not ALWAYS a > > > > grief-producing period. as generally thought. He > > > > said that one shud look into a technique called > > > > Panoti Yoga which will reveal whether each > > > > particular Sade Sati period will be good, bad or > > > > terrible. > > > > > > > > Quoting from his book : > > > > > > > > "U have to determine the Moon's sign placement (in > > > > the heavens) during the exact moment when Saturn > > > > begins to transit the house preceding the natal > > > > Moon, the house of the natal Moon and the house > > > > following the natal Moon. In other words, each > > > > two-and-a-half-year period within the > > > > seven-and-a-half Sade Sati will have its own > > > > positive or negative effects by virtue of Panoti > > > > Yoga". > > > > > > > > And the rule is "When the Moon in the sky at the > > > > moment of Saturn's current ingress into each of the > > > > three Sade Sati sign occupies : > > > > > > > > 1) the 1st, 6th or 11th sign/house from the > > > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of > > > > gold and the results are bad. > > > > > > > > 2) The 2nd, 5th or 9th sign/house from the > > > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of > > > > silver and the results are good. > > > > > > > > 3) the 3rd,, 7th or 10th sign/house from the > > > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of > > > > silver and the results are good. > > > > > > > > 4) The 4th, 8th or 12th sign/house from the > > > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of > > > > iron and the results are terrible" > > > > > > > > I have not tried out the method myself yet as it is > > > > a rather tedious process without the computer > > > > program to calculate the ingress (Some excuse ! > > > > )))) ). BTW, does anyone know of any free software > > > > that does it ? > > > > > > > > Sonia, > > > > > > > > the novice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mu'Min Bey <mumin_bey wrote:All, > > > > > > > > I just remembered - GWB has his Moon in Virgo; this > > > > means that he will be double-whammied by Sade Sati; > > > > as > > > > soon as it finishes with his ASc, it will then start > > > > with his Moon. I think he has just started Saturn > > > > Dasa, again, I have to check but he is in the > > > > general > > > > Dasa period. The Moon plays an ultra important role > > > > as > > > > it is the ruler of the Asc itself. Wow. > > > > > > > > We'll see. > > > > > > > > Salaam, > > > > Mu > > > > --- Mu'Min Bey wrote: > > > > > Rob, Nick, Cynthia, All, > > > > > > > > > > Good discussion on GWB. Here are my thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > As many of you know, I do not use the Dasas as > > > > many > > > > > often do; I use Asc position over the Moon's ain > > > > all > > > > > cases. Accoding to that, as well as the Sade Sati > > > > > transit in progress, GWB has to watch his back. I > > > > > don't have the chart in front of me right now, but > > > > I > > > > > think he's running Saturn Dasa, which is not good > > > > > for > > > > > him. Have to check but if memory serves, that is > > > > the > > > > > case. > > > > > > > > > > Bush's chart shwos his two sides, as well as his > > > > > theft > > > > > of the 2000 elections. The KSY that everyone > > > > > mentions > > > > > is the linchpin in the entire chart, as is the > > > > > prescence of SAturn in the Asc, ruling the 8tth > > > > > house > > > > > of intrigues and scandals. Of course, the 8th also > > > > > represents assassinations, and we know that there > > > > > has > > > > > already been attempts on his life, going back to > > > > Sep > > > > > 11. > > > > > > > > > > Saf-de Sati transits are almost always profound > > > > > times > > > > > of loss in one's life. Often times, it can > > > > represent > > > > > the loss of a praent, and it is certainly possible > > > > > that GWB could lose his own father or mother under > > > > > it. > > > > > It is also possible that he could lose his own > > > > life, > > > > > and even if it isn't literally, politically. It is > > > > > extremely difficult to mount anything successful > > > > > under > > > > > a Sade Sati transit, and he has this in progress > > > > > over > > > > > his Asc; at the time of Sep 11, it hadn't started, > > > > > but > > > > > has since. As GWB's chart represents the USA as a > > > > > whole, we can see the profound economic losses > > > > > everyone here is undergoing at this time, and it > > > > is > > > > > not likely to get much better. Note the transit of > > > > > Jupiter going thru Bush';s ASc, it barely > > > > registers > > > > > a > > > > > blip on the radar screen. SS says it all. > > > > > > > > > > Your serve... > > > > > > > > > > Salaam, > > > > > Mu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > > Mu'Min M. Bey > > > > > Western and Vedic Astrologer > > > > > Priority Email: jedimu11 > > > > > AOL IM Screen Name: JediMu > > > > > 267-467-5158 > > > > > Join the Pan Astrological Forum, Where Freedom in > > > > > Astrological Thought Lives! 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Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 My Sade Sati made me work hard initially, then gave me lots of goodies and overall it was a happy period. I am currently going in to the Kantaka Saturn period.. I would think Sade Sati's bad effects get reduced if you are in a foreign country. Can anyone tell me if Kantaka Shani is better or worse than sade sati? Thanks! Prakash Narinder Juneja <njuneja_hry (AT) touchtelindia (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Mr. Vivek,This is my view after going thru 50000 charts, however if you keep yourselfbusy with this divine science of astrology you will know the facts later onwith experience.With best Wishes.Narinder Juneja.www.MyWebAstrologer.comK-3/22, Basement, DLF phase-2,Gurgaon-122002, Haryana.INDIAPh.91-124-2564567, 5014567,mobile-091-9810058186----- Original Message -----"Vivek " Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:05 PMSubject: Re: Re: [GJ] Sade Sati & Panoti Yoga (To Sonia)> Dear Narinder,> I don't agree that sade-sati has no practical relavance.There are> a lot of troubles during this 3 house transit.> In any case,saturn has a special relation with the position of the> natal moon.Saturn connecting that point in transit leads to> adverse situations -- especially within a degree or two --> whichever the aspect> direct or 3,7,10.> vivek.>> On Mon, 03 Mar 2003 Narinder Juneja wrote :> >> >Dear Mr Tushar,> >> >You are thinking in right direction. According to my experience> >Sade Satti> >has no practical relevance.> >> >With best Wishes.> >> >Narinder Juneja.> >www.MyWebAstrologer.com> >K-3/22, Basement, DLF phase-2,> >Gurgaon-122002, Haryana.> >INDIA> >Ph.91-124-2564567, 5014567,> >mobile-091-9810058186> >-> > "tushar trivedi" > >> >Monday, March 03, 2003 11:12 AM> >Re: [GJ] Sade Sati & Panoti Yoga (To Sonia)> >> >> > > If you equally devided population on earth according> > > to moon sign, then at least 400000000 people will face> > > the sadasati at same time. Do you think everyone will> > > get same effect?> > >> > > It depends on so many other factor aslo like position> > > of moon and saturn in chart etc.> > >> > > I have seen people enjoying golden time of life in> > > sadasati.> > >> > > Tushar> > >> > >> > > --- sonia tanganchi wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Experts on the list> > > > As we are on the subject of Sade Sati, I was> > > > wondering if anyone has tested the results of Panoti> > > > Yoga?> > > >> > > > James Braha wrote that Sade Sati is not ALWAYS a> > > > grief-producing period. as generally thought. He> > > > said that one shud look into a technique called> > > > Panoti Yoga which will reveal whether each> > > > particular Sade Sati period will be good, bad or> > > > terrible.> > > >> > > > Quoting from his book :> > > >> > > > "U have to determine the Moon's sign placement (in> > > > the heavens) during the exact moment when Saturn> > > > begins to transit the house preceding the natal> > > > Moon, the house of the natal Moon and the house> > > > following the natal Moon. In other words, each> > > > two-and-a-half-year period within the> > > > seven-and-a-half Sade Sati will have its own> > > > positive or negative effects by virtue of Panoti> > > > Yoga".> > > >> > > > And the rule is "When the Moon in the sky at the> > > > moment of Saturn's current ingress into each of the> > > > three Sade Sati sign occupies :> > > >> > > > 1) the 1st, 6th or 11th sign/house from the> > > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of> > > > gold and the results are bad.> > > >> > > > 2) The 2nd, 5th or 9th sign/house from the> > > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of> > > > silver and the results are good.> > > >> > > > 3) the 3rd,, 7th or 10th sign/house from the> > > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of> > > > silver and the results are good.> > > >> > > > 4) The 4th, 8th or 12th sign/house from the> > > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of> > > > iron and the results are terrible"> > > >> > > > I have not tried out the method myself yet as it is> > > > a rather tedious process without the computer> > > > program to calculate the ingress (Some excuse !> > > > )))) ). BTW, does anyone know of any free software> > > > that does it ?> > > >> > > > Sonia,> > > >> > > > the novice> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Mu'Min Bey wrote:All,> > > >> > > > I just remembered - GWB has his Moon in Virgo; this> > > > means that he will be double-whammied by Sade Sati;> > > > as> > > > soon as it finishes with his ASc, it will then start> > > > with his Moon. I think he has just started Saturn> > > > Dasa, again, I have to check but he is in the> > > > general> > > > Dasa period. The Moon plays an ultra important role> > > > as> > > > it is the ruler of the Asc itself. Wow.> > > >> > > > We'll see.> > > >> > > > Salaam,> > > > Mu> > > > --- Mu'Min Bey wrote:> > > > > Rob, Nick, Cynthia, All,> > > > >> > > > > Good discussion on GWB. Here are my thoughts.> > > > >> > > > > As many of you know, I do not use the Dasas as> > > > many> > > > > often do; I use Asc position over the Moon's ain> > > > all> > > > > cases. Accoding to that, as well as the Sade Sati> > > > > transit in progress, GWB has to watch his back. I> > > > > don't have the chart in front of me right now, but> > > > I> > > > > think he's running Saturn Dasa, which is not good> > > > > for> > > > > him. Have to check but if memory serves, that is> > > > the> > > > > case.> > > > >> > > > > Bush's chart shwos his two sides, as well as his> > > > > theft> > > > > of the 2000 elections. The KSY that everyone> > > > > mentions> > > > > is the linchpin in the entire chart, as is the> > > > > prescence of SAturn in the Asc, ruling the 8tth> > > > > house> > > > > of intrigues and scandals. Of course, the 8th also> > > > > represents assassinations, and we know that there> > > > > has> > > > > already been attempts on his life, going back to> > > > Sep> > > > > 11.> > > > >> > > > > Saf-de Sati transits are almost always profound> > > > > times> > > > > of loss in one's life. Often times, it can> > > > represent> > > > > the loss of a praent, and it is certainly possible> > > > > that GWB could lose his own father or mother under> > > > > it.> > > > > It is also possible that he could lose his own> > > > life,> > > > > and even if it isn't literally, politically. It is> > > > > extremely difficult to mount anything successful> > > > > under> > > > > a Sade Sati transit, and he has this in progress> > > > > over> > > > > his Asc; at the time of Sep 11, it hadn't started,> > > > > but> > > > > has since. As GWB's chart represents the USA as a> > > > > whole, we can see the profound economic losses> > > > > everyone here is undergoing at this time, and it> > > > is> > > > > not likely to get much better. Note the transit of> > > > > Jupiter going thru Bush';s ASc, it barely> > > > registers> > > > > a> > > > > blip on the radar screen. SS says it all.> > > > >> > > > > Your serve...> > > > >> > > > > Salaam,> > > > > Mu> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > =====> > > > > Mu'Min M. Bey> > > > > Western and Vedic Astrologer> > > > > Priority Email: jedimu11 > > > > > AOL IM Screen Name: JediMu> > > > > 267-467-5158> > > > > Join the Pan Astrological Forum, Where Freedom in> > > > > Astrological Thought Lives! Just send a blank> > > > email> > > > > to panastroforum- (AT) topica (DOT) com> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more> > > > > http://taxes./> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat> > > > > Sat> > > > > To , send an email to:> > > > > gjlist-> > > > > http://www.goravani.com> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Your use of is subject to> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > =====> > > > Mu'Min M. 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Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 I am just a novice BUT I have in my small collection of horoscopes for learning, 3 charts which natives are currently running Sade Sati. One experienced a double whammy of horrors (and she has an exalted Moon) whilst the other two are doing fine so far. I am just trying to find out what are the factors to determine the outcome. Regards Sonia Narinder Juneja <njuneja_hry (AT) touchtelindia (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Mr. Vivek,This is my view after going thru 50000 charts, however if you keep yourselfbusy with this divine science of astrology you will know the facts later onwith experience.With best Wishes.Narinder Juneja.www.MyWebAstrologer.comK-3/22, Basement, DLF phase-2,Gurgaon-122002, Haryana.INDIAPh.91-124-2564567, 5014567,mobile-091-9810058186----- Original Message -----"Vivek " Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:05 PMSubject: Re: Re: [GJ] Sade Sati & Panoti Yoga (To Sonia)> Dear Narinder,> I don't agree that sade-sati has no practical relavance.There are> a lot of troubles during this 3 house transit.> In any case,saturn has a special relation with the position of the> natal moon.Saturn connecting that point in transit leads to> adverse situations -- especially within a degree or two --> whichever the aspect> direct or 3,7,10.> vivek.>> On Mon, 03 Mar 2003 Narinder Juneja wrote :> >> >Dear Mr Tushar,> >> >You are thinking in right direction. According to my experience> >Sade Satti> >has no practical relevance.> >> >With best Wishes.> >> >Narinder Juneja.> >www.MyWebAstrologer.com> >K-3/22, Basement, DLF phase-2,> >Gurgaon-122002, Haryana.> >INDIA> >Ph.91-124-2564567, 5014567,> >mobile-091-9810058186> >-> > "tushar trivedi" > >> >Monday, March 03, 2003 11:12 AM> >Re: [GJ] Sade Sati & Panoti Yoga (To Sonia)> >> >> > > If you equally devided population on earth according> > > to moon sign, then at least 400000000 people will face> > > the sadasati at same time. Do you think everyone will> > > get same effect?> > >> > > It depends on so many other factor aslo like position> > > of moon and saturn in chart etc.> > >> > > I have seen people enjoying golden time of life in> > > sadasati.> > >> > > Tushar> > >> > >> > > --- sonia tanganchi wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Experts on the list> > > > As we are on the subject of Sade Sati, I was> > > > wondering if anyone has tested the results of Panoti> > > > Yoga?> > > >> > > > James Braha wrote that Sade Sati is not ALWAYS a> > > > grief-producing period. as generally thought. He> > > > said that one shud look into a technique called> > > > Panoti Yoga which will reveal whether each> > > > particular Sade Sati period will be good, bad or> > > > terrible.> > > >> > > > Quoting from his book :> > > >> > > > "U have to determine the Moon's sign placement (in> > > > the heavens) during the exact moment when Saturn> > > > begins to transit the house preceding the natal> > > > Moon, the house of the natal Moon and the house> > > > following the natal Moon. In other words, each> > > > two-and-a-half-year period within the> > > > seven-and-a-half Sade Sati will have its own> > > > positive or negative effects by virtue of Panoti> > > > Yoga".> > > >> > > > And the rule is "When the Moon in the sky at the> > > > moment of Saturn's current ingress into each of the> > > > three Sade Sati sign occupies :> > > >> > > > 1) the 1st, 6th or 11th sign/house from the> > > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of> > > > gold and the results are bad.> > > >> > > > 2) The 2nd, 5th or 9th sign/house from the> > > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of> > > > silver and the results are good.> > > >> > > > 3) the 3rd,, 7th or 10th sign/house from the> > > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of> > > > silver and the results are good.> > > >> > > > 4) The 4th, 8th or 12th sign/house from the> > > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of> > > > iron and the results are terrible"> > > >> > > > I have not tried out the method myself yet as it is> > > > a rather tedious process without the computer> > > > program to calculate the ingress (Some excuse !> > > > )))) ). BTW, does anyone know of any free software> > > > that does it ?> > > >> > > > Sonia,> > > >> > > > the novice> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Mu'Min Bey wrote:All,> > > >> > > > I just remembered - GWB has his Moon in Virgo; this> > > > means that he will be double-whammied by Sade Sati;> > > > as> > > > soon as it finishes with his ASc, it will then start> > > > with his Moon. I think he has just started Saturn> > > > Dasa, again, I have to check but he is in the> > > > general> > > > Dasa period. The Moon plays an ultra important role> > > > as> > > > it is the ruler of the Asc itself. Wow.> > > >> > > > We'll see.> > > >> > > > Salaam,> > > > Mu> > > > --- Mu'Min Bey wrote:> > > > > Rob, Nick, Cynthia, All,> > > > >> > > > > Good discussion on GWB. Here are my thoughts.> > > > >> > > > > As many of you know, I do not use the Dasas as> > > > many> > > > > often do; I use Asc position over the Moon's ain> > > > all> > > > > cases. Accoding to that, as well as the Sade Sati> > > > > transit in progress, GWB has to watch his back. I> > > > > don't have the chart in front of me right now, but> > > > I> > > > > think he's running Saturn Dasa, which is not good> > > > > for> > > > > him. Have to check but if memory serves, that is> > > > the> > > > > case.> > > > >> > > > > Bush's chart shwos his two sides, as well as his> > > > > theft> > > > > of the 2000 elections. The KSY that everyone> > > > > mentions> > > > > is the linchpin in the entire chart, as is the> > > > > prescence of SAturn in the Asc, ruling the 8tth> > > > > house> > > > > of intrigues and scandals. Of course, the 8th also> > > > > represents assassinations, and we know that there> > > > > has> > > > > already been attempts on his life, going back to> > > > Sep> > > > > 11.> > > > >> > > > > Saf-de Sati transits are almost always profound> > > > > times> > > > > of loss in one's life. Often times, it can> > > > represent> > > > > the loss of a praent, and it is certainly possible> > > > > that GWB could lose his own father or mother under> > > > > it.> > > > > It is also possible that he could lose his own> > > > life,> > > > > and even if it isn't literally, politically. It is> > > > > extremely difficult to mount anything successful> > > > > under> > > > > a Sade Sati transit, and he has this in progress> > > > > over> > > > > his Asc; at the time of Sep 11, it hadn't started,> > > > > but> > > > > has since. As GWB's chart represents the USA as a> > > > > whole, we can see the profound economic losses> > > > > everyone here is undergoing at this time, and it> > > > is> > > > > not likely to get much better. Note the transit of> > > > > Jupiter going thru Bush';s ASc, it barely> > > > registers> > > > > a> > > > > blip on the radar screen. SS says it all.> > > > >> > > > > Your serve...> > > > >> > > > > Salaam,> > > > > Mu> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > =====> > > > > Mu'Min M. Bey> > > > > Western and Vedic Astrologer> > > > > Priority Email: jedimu11 > > > > > AOL IM Screen Name: JediMu> > > > > 267-467-5158> > > > > Join the Pan Astrological Forum, Where Freedom in> > > > > Astrological Thought Lives! Just send a blank> > > > email> > > > > to panastroforum- (AT) topica (DOT) com> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more> > > > > http://taxes./> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat> > > > > Sat> > > > > To , send an email to:> > > > > gjlist-> > > > > http://www.goravani.com> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Your use of is subject to> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > =====> > > > Mu'Min M. 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Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 Dear Narinder, Perhaps you are right.I was speaking from my own experience.sade-sati was a bad period for me. I think you will agree on one point though--- whenever saturn comes to the position of natal moon or aspects it,it leads to problems for a certain period of time-- say within a degree on either side of the natal moon's position. best regards, vivek. On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 Narinder Juneja wrote : > >Dear Mr. Vivek, > >This is my view after going thru 50000 charts, however if you >keep yourself >busy with this divine science of astrology you will know the >facts later on >with experience. > >With best Wishes. > >Narinder Juneja. >www.MyWebAstrologer.com >K-3/22, Basement, DLF phase-2, >Gurgaon-122002, Haryana. >INDIA >Ph.91-124-2564567, 5014567, >mobile-091-9810058186 >- > "Vivek " <keviv90 ><gjlist> >Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:05 PM >Re: Re: [GJ] Sade Sati & Panoti Yoga (To Sonia) > > > > Dear Narinder, > > I don't agree that sade-sati has no practical relavance.There >are > > a lot of troubles during this 3 house transit. > > In any case,saturn has a special relation with the position of >the > > natal moon.Saturn connecting that point in transit leads to > > adverse situations -- especially within a degree or two -- > > whichever the aspect > > direct or 3,7,10. > > vivek. > > > > On Mon, 03 Mar 2003 Narinder Juneja wrote : > > > > > >Dear Mr Tushar, > > > > > >You are thinking in right direction. According to my >experience > > >Sade Satti > > >has no practical relevance. > > > > > >With best Wishes. > > > > > >Narinder Juneja. > > >www.MyWebAstrologer.com > > >K-3/22, Basement, DLF phase-2, > > >Gurgaon-122002, Haryana. > > >INDIA > > >Ph.91-124-2564567, 5014567, > > >mobile-091-9810058186 > > >- > > > "tushar trivedi" <tushar_9 > > ><gjlist> > > >Monday, March 03, 2003 11:12 AM > > >Re: [GJ] Sade Sati & Panoti Yoga (To Sonia) > > > > > > > > > > If you equally devided population on earth according > > > > to moon sign, then at least 400000000 people will face > > > > the sadasati at same time. Do you think everyone will > > > > get same effect? > > > > > > > > It depends on so many other factor aslo like position > > > > of moon and saturn in chart etc. > > > > > > > > I have seen people enjoying golden time of life in > > > > sadasati. > > > > > > > > Tushar > > > > > > > > > > > > --- sonia tanganchi <dhanus10 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Experts on the list > > > > > As we are on the subject of Sade Sati, I was > > > > > wondering if anyone has tested the results of Panoti > > > > > Yoga? > > > > > > > > > > James Braha wrote that Sade Sati is not ALWAYS a > > > > > grief-producing period. as generally thought. He > > > > > said that one shud look into a technique called > > > > > Panoti Yoga which will reveal whether each > > > > > particular Sade Sati period will be good, bad or > > > > > terrible. > > > > > > > > > > Quoting from his book : > > > > > > > > > > "U have to determine the Moon's sign placement (in > > > > > the heavens) during the exact moment when Saturn > > > > > begins to transit the house preceding the natal > > > > > Moon, the house of the natal Moon and the house > > > > > following the natal Moon. In other words, each > > > > > two-and-a-half-year period within the > > > > > seven-and-a-half Sade Sati will have its own > > > > > positive or negative effects by virtue of Panoti > > > > > Yoga". > > > > > > > > > > And the rule is "When the Moon in the sky at the > > > > > moment of Saturn's current ingress into each of the > > > > > three Sade Sati sign occupies : > > > > > > > > > > 1) the 1st, 6th or 11th sign/house from the > > > > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of > > > > > gold and the results are bad. > > > > > > > > > > 2) The 2nd, 5th or 9th sign/house from the > > > > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of > > > > > silver and the results are good. > > > > > > > > > > 3) the 3rd,, 7th or 10th sign/house from the > > > > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of > > > > > silver and the results are good. > > > > > > > > > > 4) The 4th, 8th or 12th sign/house from the > > > > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of > > > > > iron and the results are terrible" > > > > > > > > > > I have not tried out the method myself yet as it is > > > > > a rather tedious process without the computer > > > > > program to calculate the ingress (Some excuse ! > > > > > )))) ). BTW, does anyone know of any free software > > > > > that does it ? > > > > > > > > > > Sonia, > > > > > > > > > > the novice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mu'Min Bey <mumin_bey wrote:All, > > > > > > > > > > I just remembered - GWB has his Moon in Virgo; this > > > > > means that he will be double-whammied by Sade Sati; > > > > > as > > > > > soon as it finishes with his ASc, it will then start > > > > > with his Moon. I think he has just started Saturn > > > > > Dasa, again, I have to check but he is in the > > > > > general > > > > > Dasa period. The Moon plays an ultra important role > > > > > as > > > > > it is the ruler of the Asc itself. Wow. > > > > > > > > > > We'll see. > > > > > > > > > > Salaam, > > > > > Mu > > > > > --- Mu'Min Bey wrote: > > > > > > Rob, Nick, Cynthia, All, > > > > > > > > > > > > Good discussion on GWB. Here are my thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > > > As many of you know, I do not use the Dasas as > > > > > many > > > > > > often do; I use Asc position over the Moon's ain > > > > > all > > > > > > cases. Accoding to that, as well as the Sade Sati > > > > > > transit in progress, GWB has to watch his back. I > > > > > > don't have the chart in front of me right now, but > > > > > I > > > > > > think he's running Saturn Dasa, which is not good > > > > > > for > > > > > > him. Have to check but if memory serves, that is > > > > > the > > > > > > case. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush's chart shwos his two sides, as well as his > > > > > > theft > > > > > > of the 2000 elections. The KSY that everyone > > > > > > mentions > > > > > > is the linchpin in the entire chart, as is the > > > > > > prescence of SAturn in the Asc, ruling the 8tth > > > > > > house > > > > > > of intrigues and scandals. Of course, the 8th also > > > > > > represents assassinations, and we know that there > > > > > > has > > > > > > already been attempts on his life, going back to > > > > > Sep > > > > > > 11. > > > > > > > > > > > > Saf-de Sati transits are almost always profound > > > > > > times > > > > > > of loss in one's life. Often times, it can > > > > > represent > > > > > > the loss of a praent, and it is certainly possible > > > > > > that GWB could lose his own father or mother under > > > > > > it. > > > > > > It is also possible that he could lose his own > > > > > life, > > > > > > and even if it isn't literally, politically. It is > > > > > > extremely difficult to mount anything successful > > > > > > under > > > > > > a Sade Sati transit, and he has this in progress > > > > > > over > > > > > > his Asc; at the time of Sep 11, it hadn't started, > > > > > > but > > > > > > has since. As GWB's chart represents the USA as a > > > > > > whole, we can see the profound economic losses > > > > > > everyone here is undergoing at this time, and it > > > > > is > > > > > > not likely to get much better. Note the transit of > > > > > > Jupiter going thru Bush';s ASc, it barely > > > > > registers > > > > > > a > > > > > > blip on the radar screen. SS says it all. > > > > > > > > > > > > Your serve... > > > > > > > > > > > > Salaam, > > > > > > Mu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > > > Mu'Min M. Bey > > > > > > Western and Vedic Astrologer > > > > > > Priority Email: jedimu11 > > > > > > AOL IM Screen Name: JediMu > > > > > > 267-467-5158 > > > > > > Join the Pan Astrological Forum, Where Freedom in > > > > > > Astrological Thought Lives! 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Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Dear Mr. Vivek, If any results are changed which were worse before, that are due to some another reason or transit influence and any change of place cannot replace the impact of planets. With best Wishes. Narinder Juneja.www.MyWebAstrologer.comK-3/22, Basement, DLF phase-2,Gurgaon-122002, Haryana.INDIAPh.91-124-2564567, 5014567, mobile-091-9810058186 - Prakash Narayanan gjlist Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:22 PM Re: Re: [GJ] Sade Sati & Panoti Yoga (To Sonia) Dear Mr.Vivek, Mr.Narinder, My Sade Sati made me work hard initially, then gave me lots of goodies and overall it was a happy period. I am currently going in to the Kantaka Saturn period.. I would think Sade Sati's bad effects get reduced if you are in a foreign country. Can anyone tell me if Kantaka Shani is better or worse than sade sati? Thanks! Prakash Narinder Juneja <njuneja_hry (AT) touchtelindia (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Mr. Vivek,This is my view after going thru 50000 charts, however if you keep yourselfbusy with this divine science of astrology you will know the facts later onwith experience.With best Wishes.Narinder Juneja.www.MyWebAstrologer.comK-3/22, Basement, DLF phase-2,Gurgaon-122002, Haryana.INDIAPh.91-124-2564567, 5014567,mobile-091-9810058186-"Vivek " To: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:05 PMRe: Re: [GJ] Sade Sati & Panoti Yoga (To Sonia)> Dear Narinder,> I don't agree that sade-sati has no practical relavance.There are> a lot of troubles during this 3 house transit.> In any case,saturn has a special relation with the position of the> natal moon.Saturn connecting that point in transit leads to> adverse situations -- especially within a degree or two --> whichever the aspect> direct or 3,7,10.> vivek.>> On Mon, 03 Mar 2003 Narinder Juneja wrote :> >> >Dear Mr Tushar,> >> >You are thinking in right direction. According to my experience> >Sade Satti> >has no practical relevance.> >> >With best Wishes.> >> >Narinder Juneja.> >www.MyWebAstrologer.com> >K-3/22, Basement, DLF phase-2,> >Gurgaon-122002, Haryana.> >INDIA> >Ph.91-124-2564567, 5014567,> >mobile-091-9810058186> >----- Original Message -----> > "tushar trivedi" > >> >Monday, March 03, 2003 11:12 AM> >Re: [GJ] Sade Sati & Panoti Yoga (To Sonia)> >> >> > > If you equally devided population on earth according> > > to moon sign, then at least 400000000 people will face> > > the sadasati at same time. Do you think everyone will> > > get same effect?> > >> > > It depends on so many other factor aslo like position> > > of moon and saturn in chart etc.> > >> > > I have seen people enjoying golden time of life in> > > sadasati.> > >> > > Tushar> > >> > >> > > --- sonia tanganchi wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Experts on the list> > > > As we are on the subject of Sade Sati, I was> > > > wondering if anyone has tested the results of Panoti> > > > Yoga?> > > >> > > > James Braha wrote that Sade Sati is not ALWAYS a> > > > grief-producing period. as generally thought. He> > > > said that one shud look into a technique called> > > > Panoti Yoga which will reveal whether each> > > > particular Sade Sati period will be good, bad or> > > > terrible.> > > >> > > > Quoting from his book :> > > >> > > > "U have to determine the Moon's sign placement (in> > > > the heavens) during the exact moment when Saturn> > > > begins to transit the house preceding the natal> > > > Moon, the house of the natal Moon and the house> > > > following the natal Moon. In other words, each> > > > two-and-a-half-year period within the> > > > seven-and-a-half Sade Sati will have its own> > > > positive or negative effects by virtue of Panoti> > > > Yoga".> > > >> > > > And the rule is "When the Moon in the sky at the> > > > moment of Saturn's current ingress into each of the> > > > three Sade Sati sign occupies :> > > >> > > > 1) the 1st, 6th or 11th sign/house from the> > > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of> > > > gold and the results are bad.> > > >> > > > 2) The 2nd, 5th or 9th sign/house from the> > > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of> > > > silver and the results are good.> > > >> > > > 3) the 3rd,, 7th or 10th sign/house from the> > > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of> > > > silver and the results are good.> > > >> > > > 4) The 4th, 8th or 12th sign/house from the> > > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of> > > > iron and the results are terrible"> > > >> > > > I have not tried out the method myself yet as it is> > > > a rather tedious process without the computer> > > > program to calculate the ingress (Some excuse !> > > > )))) ). BTW, does anyone know of any free software> > > > that does it ?> > > >> > > > Sonia,> > > >> > > > the novice> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Mu'Min Bey wrote:All,> > > >> > > > I just remembered - GWB has his Moon in Virgo; this> > > > means that he will be double-whammied by Sade Sati;> > > > as> > > > soon as it finishes with his ASc, it will then start> > > > with his Moon. I think he has just started Saturn> > > > Dasa, again, I have to check but he is in the> > > > general> > > > Dasa period. The Moon plays an ultra important role> > > > as> > > > it is the ruler of the Asc itself. Wow.> > > >> > > > We'll see.> > > >> > > > Salaam,> > > > Mu> > > > --- Mu'Min Bey wrote:> > > > > Rob, Nick, Cynthia, All,> > > > >> > > > > Good discussion on GWB. Here are my thoughts.> > > > >> > > > > As many of you know, I do not use the Dasas as> > > > many> > > > > often do; I use Asc position over the Moon's ain> > > > all> > > > > cases. Accoding to that, as well as the Sade Sati> > > > > transit in progress, GWB has to watch his back. I> > > > > don't have the chart in front of me right now, but> > > > I> > > > > think he's running Saturn Dasa, which is not good> > > > > for> > > > > him. Have to check but if memory serves, that is> > > > the> > > > > case.> > > > >> > > > > Bush's chart shwos his two sides, as well as his> > > > > theft> > > > > of the 2000 elections. The KSY that everyone> > > > > mentions> > > > > is the linchpin in the entire chart, as is the> > > > > prescence of SAturn in the Asc, ruling the 8tth> > > > > house> > > > > of intrigues and scandals. Of course, the 8th also> > > > > represents assassinations, and we know that there> > > > > has> > > > > already been attempts on his life, going back to> > > > Sep> > > > > 11.> > > > >> > > > > Saf-de Sati transits are almost always profound> > > > > times> > > > > of loss in one's life. Often times, it can> > > > represent> > > > > the loss of a praent, and it is certainly possible> > > > > that GWB could lose his own father or mother under> > > > > it.> > > > > It is also possible that he could lose his own> > > > life,> > > > > and even if it isn't literally, politically. It is> > > > > extremely difficult to mount anything successful> > > > > under> > > > > a Sade Sati transit, and he has this in progress> > > > > over> > > > > his Asc; at the time of Sep 11, it hadn't started,> > > > > but> > > > > has since. As GWB's chart represents the USA as a> > > > > whole, we can see the profound economic losses> > > > > everyone here is undergoing at this time, and it> > > > is> > > > > not likely to get much better. Note the transit of> > > > > Jupiter going thru Bush';s ASc, it barely> > > > registers> > > > > a> > > > > blip on the radar screen. SS says it all.> > > > >> > > > > Your serve...> > > > >> > > > > Salaam,> > > > > Mu> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > =====> > > > > Mu'Min M. Bey> > > > > Western and Vedic Astrologer> > > > > Priority Email: jedimu11 > > > > > AOL IM Screen Name: JediMu> > > > > 267-467-5158> > > > > Join the Pan Astrological Forum, Where Freedom in> > > > > Astrological Thought Lives! Just send a blank> > > > email> > > > > to panastroforum- (AT) topica (DOT) com> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more> > > > > http://taxes./> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat> > > > > Sat> > > > > To , send an email to:> > > > > gjlist-> > > > > http://www.goravani.com> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Your use of is subject to> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > =====> > > > Mu'Min M. 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Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Dear Ms. Sonia, The fact is, there is no relevance of sade satti, if someone has problem they tend to blame the cause to that unknowing the facts. If some one knows the functional nature of planets and carefully watch their strength , placement, affliction & transit influence, they can find out the exact reasons behind it. With best Wishes. Narinder Juneja.www.MyWebAstrologer.comK-3/22, Basement, DLF phase-2,Gurgaon-122002, Haryana.INDIAPh.91-124-2564567, 5014567, mobile-091-9810058186 - sonia tanganchi gjlist Wednesday, March 05, 2003 7:59 AM Re: Re: [GJ] Sade Sati & Panoti Yoga (To Sonia) Dear Narinder I am just a novice BUT I have in my small collection of horoscopes for learning, 3 charts which natives are currently running Sade Sati. One experienced a double whammy of horrors (and she has an exalted Moon) whilst the other two are doing fine so far. I am just trying to find out what are the factors to determine the outcome. Regards Sonia Narinder Juneja <njuneja_hry (AT) touchtelindia (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Mr. Vivek,This is my view after going thru 50000 charts, however if you keep yourselfbusy with this divine science of astrology you will know the facts later onwith experience.With best Wishes.Narinder Juneja.www.MyWebAstrologer.comK-3/22, Basement, DLF phase-2,Gurgaon-122002, Haryana.INDIAPh.91-124-2564567, 5014567,mobile-091-9810058186-"Vivek " To: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:05 PMRe: Re: [GJ] Sade Sati & Panoti Yoga (To Sonia)> Dear Narinder,> I don't agree that sade-sati has no practical relavance.There are> a lot of troubles during this 3 house transit.> In any case,saturn has a special relation with the position of the> natal moon.Saturn connecting that point in transit leads to> adverse situations -- especially within a degree or two --> whichever the aspect> direct or 3,7,10.> vivek.>> On Mon, 03 Mar 2003 Narinder Juneja wrote :> >> >Dear Mr Tushar,> >> >You are thinking in right direction. According to my experience> >Sade Satti> >has no practical relevance.> >> >With best Wishes.> >> >Narinder Juneja.> >www.MyWebAstrologer.com> >K-3/22, Basement, DLF phase-2,> >Gurgaon-122002, Haryana.> >INDIA> >Ph.91-124-2564567, 5014567,> >mobile-091-9810058186> >----- Original Message -----> > "tushar trivedi" > >> >Monday, March 03, 2003 11:12 AM> >Re: [GJ] Sade Sati & Panoti Yoga (To Sonia)> >> >> > > If you equally devided population on earth according> > > to moon sign, then at least 400000000 people will face> > > the sadasati at same time. Do you think everyone will> > > get same effect?> > >> > > It depends on so many other factor aslo like position> > > of moon and saturn in chart etc.> > >> > > I have seen people enjoying golden time of life in> > > sadasati.> > >> > > Tushar> > >> > >> > > --- sonia tanganchi wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Experts on the list> > > > As we are on the subject of Sade Sati, I was> > > > wondering if anyone has tested the results of Panoti> > > > Yoga?> > > >> > > > James Braha wrote that Sade Sati is not ALWAYS a> > > > grief-producing period. as generally thought. He> > > > said that one shud look into a technique called> > > > Panoti Yoga which will reveal whether each> > > > particular Sade Sati period will be good, bad or> > > > terrible.> > > >> > > > Quoting from his book :> > > >> > > > "U have to determine the Moon's sign placement (in> > > > the heavens) during the exact moment when Saturn> > > > begins to transit the house preceding the natal> > > > Moon, the house of the natal Moon and the house> > > > following the natal Moon. In other words, each> > > > two-and-a-half-year period within the> > > > seven-and-a-half Sade Sati will have its own> > > > positive or negative effects by virtue of Panoti> > > > Yoga".> > > >> > > > And the rule is "When the Moon in the sky at the> > > > moment of Saturn's current ingress into each of the> > > > three Sade Sati sign occupies :> > > >> > > > 1) the 1st, 6th or 11th sign/house from the> > > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of> > > > gold and the results are bad.> > > >> > > > 2) The 2nd, 5th or 9th sign/house from the> > > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of> > > > silver and the results are good.> > > >> > > > 3) the 3rd,, 7th or 10th sign/house from the> > > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of> > > > silver and the results are good.> > > >> > > > 4) The 4th, 8th or 12th sign/house from the> > > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of> > > > iron and the results are terrible"> > > >> > > > I have not tried out the method myself yet as it is> > > > a rather tedious process without the computer> > > > program to calculate the ingress (Some excuse !> > > > )))) ). BTW, does anyone know of any free software> > > > that does it ?> > > >> > > > Sonia,> > > >> > > > the novice> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Mu'Min Bey wrote:All,> > > >> > > > I just remembered - GWB has his Moon in Virgo; this> > > > means that he will be double-whammied by Sade Sati;> > > > as> > > > soon as it finishes with his ASc, it will then start> > > > with his Moon. I think he has just started Saturn> > > > Dasa, again, I have to check but he is in the> > > > general> > > > Dasa period. The Moon plays an ultra important role> > > > as> > > > it is the ruler of the Asc itself. Wow.> > > >> > > > We'll see.> > > >> > > > Salaam,> > > > Mu> > > > --- Mu'Min Bey wrote:> > > > > Rob, Nick, Cynthia, All,> > > > >> > > > > Good discussion on GWB. Here are my thoughts.> > > > >> > > > > As many of you know, I do not use the Dasas as> > > > many> > > > > often do; I use Asc position over the Moon's ain> > > > all> > > > > cases. Accoding to that, as well as the Sade Sati> > > > > transit in progress, GWB has to watch his back. I> > > > > don't have the chart in front of me right now, but> > > > I> > > > > think he's running Saturn Dasa, which is not good> > > > > for> > > > > him. Have to check but if memory serves, that is> > > > the> > > > > case.> > > > >> > > > > Bush's chart shwos his two sides, as well as his> > > > > theft> > > > > of the 2000 elections. The KSY that everyone> > > > > mentions> > > > > is the linchpin in the entire chart, as is the> > > > > prescence of SAturn in the Asc, ruling the 8tth> > > > > house> > > > > of intrigues and scandals. Of course, the 8th also> > > > > represents assassinations, and we know that there> > > > > has> > > > > already been attempts on his life, going back to> > > > Sep> > > > > 11.> > > > >> > > > > Saf-de Sati transits are almost always profound> > > > > times> > > > > of loss in one's life. Often times, it can> > > > represent> > > > > the loss of a praent, and it is certainly possible> > > > > that GWB could lose his own father or mother under> > > > > it.> > > > > It is also possible that he could lose his own> > > > life,> > > > > and even if it isn't literally, politically. It is> > > > > extremely difficult to mount anything successful> > > > > under> > > > > a Sade Sati transit, and he has this in progress> > > > > over> > > > > his Asc; at the time of Sep 11, it hadn't started,> > > > > but> > > > > has since. As GWB's chart represents the USA as a> > > > > whole, we can see the profound economic losses> > > > > everyone here is undergoing at this time, and it> > > > is> > > > > not likely to get much better. Note the transit of> > > > > Jupiter going thru Bush';s ASc, it barely> > > > registers> > > > > a> > > > > blip on the radar screen. 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Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Dear Mr. Vivek, In this case one of the planets must be functional malefic for causing concern & sufferings thru natal & transit influence. With best Wishes. Narinder Juneja. www.MyWebAstrologer.com K-3/22, Basement, DLF phase-2, Gurgaon-122002, Haryana. INDIA Ph.91-124-2564567, 5014567, mobile-091-9810058186 - "Vivek " <keviv90 <gjlist> Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:45 AM Re: Re: Re: [GJ] Sade Sati & Panoti Yoga (To Sonia) > Dear Narinder, > Perhaps you are right.I was speaking from my own > experience.sade-sati was a bad period for me. > I think you will agree on one point though--- whenever saturn > comes to the position of natal moon or aspects it,it leads to > problems for a certain period of time-- say within a degree on > either side of the natal moon's position. > best regards, > vivek. > > On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 Narinder Juneja wrote : > > > >Dear Mr. Vivek, > > > >This is my view after going thru 50000 charts, however if you > >keep yourself > >busy with this divine science of astrology you will know the > >facts later on > >with experience. > > > >With best Wishes. > > > >Narinder Juneja. > >www.MyWebAstrologer.com > >K-3/22, Basement, DLF phase-2, > >Gurgaon-122002, Haryana. > >INDIA > >Ph.91-124-2564567, 5014567, > >mobile-091-9810058186 > >- > > "Vivek " <keviv90 > ><gjlist> > >Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:05 PM > >Re: Re: [GJ] Sade Sati & Panoti Yoga (To Sonia) > > > > > > > Dear Narinder, > > > I don't agree that sade-sati has no practical relavance.There > >are > > > a lot of troubles during this 3 house transit. > > > In any case,saturn has a special relation with the position of > >the > > > natal moon.Saturn connecting that point in transit leads to > > > adverse situations -- especially within a degree or two -- > > > whichever the aspect > > > direct or 3,7,10. > > > vivek. > > > > > > On Mon, 03 Mar 2003 Narinder Juneja wrote : > > > > > > > >Dear Mr Tushar, > > > > > > > >You are thinking in right direction. According to my > >experience > > > >Sade Satti > > > >has no practical relevance. > > > > > > > >With best Wishes. > > > > > > > >Narinder Juneja. > > > >www.MyWebAstrologer.com > > > >K-3/22, Basement, DLF phase-2, > > > >Gurgaon-122002, Haryana. > > > >INDIA > > > >Ph.91-124-2564567, 5014567, > > > >mobile-091-9810058186 > > > >- > > > > "tushar trivedi" <tushar_9 > > > ><gjlist> > > > >Monday, March 03, 2003 11:12 AM > > > >Re: [GJ] Sade Sati & Panoti Yoga (To Sonia) > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you equally devided population on earth according > > > > > to moon sign, then at least 400000000 people will face > > > > > the sadasati at same time. Do you think everyone will > > > > > get same effect? > > > > > > > > > > It depends on so many other factor aslo like position > > > > > of moon and saturn in chart etc. > > > > > > > > > > I have seen people enjoying golden time of life in > > > > > sadasati. > > > > > > > > > > Tushar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- sonia tanganchi <dhanus10 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Experts on the list > > > > > > As we are on the subject of Sade Sati, I was > > > > > > wondering if anyone has tested the results of Panoti > > > > > > Yoga? > > > > > > > > > > > > James Braha wrote that Sade Sati is not ALWAYS a > > > > > > grief-producing period. as generally thought. He > > > > > > said that one shud look into a technique called > > > > > > Panoti Yoga which will reveal whether each > > > > > > particular Sade Sati period will be good, bad or > > > > > > terrible. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quoting from his book : > > > > > > > > > > > > "U have to determine the Moon's sign placement (in > > > > > > the heavens) during the exact moment when Saturn > > > > > > begins to transit the house preceding the natal > > > > > > Moon, the house of the natal Moon and the house > > > > > > following the natal Moon. In other words, each > > > > > > two-and-a-half-year period within the > > > > > > seven-and-a-half Sade Sati will have its own > > > > > > positive or negative effects by virtue of Panoti > > > > > > Yoga". > > > > > > > > > > > > And the rule is "When the Moon in the sky at the > > > > > > moment of Saturn's current ingress into each of the > > > > > > three Sade Sati sign occupies : > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) the 1st, 6th or 11th sign/house from the > > > > > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of > > > > > > gold and the results are bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) The 2nd, 5th or 9th sign/house from the > > > > > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of > > > > > > silver and the results are good. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) the 3rd,, 7th or 10th sign/house from the > > > > > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of > > > > > > silver and the results are good. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) The 4th, 8th or 12th sign/house from the > > > > > > natal Moon, then Panoti Yoga occurs on the basis of > > > > > > iron and the results are terrible" > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not tried out the method myself yet as it is > > > > > > a rather tedious process without the computer > > > > > > program to calculate the ingress (Some excuse ! > > > > > > )))) ). BTW, does anyone know of any free software > > > > > > that does it ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Sonia, > > > > > > > > > > > > the novice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mu'Min Bey <mumin_bey wrote:All, > > > > > > > > > > > > I just remembered - GWB has his Moon in Virgo; this > > > > > > means that he will be double-whammied by Sade Sati; > > > > > > as > > > > > > soon as it finishes with his ASc, it will then start > > > > > > with his Moon. I think he has just started Saturn > > > > > > Dasa, again, I have to check but he is in the > > > > > > general > > > > > > Dasa period. The Moon plays an ultra important role > > > > > > as > > > > > > it is the ruler of the Asc itself. Wow. > > > > > > > > > > > > We'll see. > > > > > > > > > > > > Salaam, > > > > > > Mu > > > > > > --- Mu'Min Bey wrote: > > > > > > > Rob, Nick, Cynthia, All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good discussion on GWB. Here are my thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As many of you know, I do not use the Dasas as > > > > > > many > > > > > > > often do; I use Asc position over the Moon's ain > > > > > > all > > > > > > > cases. Accoding to that, as well as the Sade Sati > > > > > > > transit in progress, GWB has to watch his back. I > > > > > > > don't have the chart in front of me right now, but > > > > > > I > > > > > > > think he's running Saturn Dasa, which is not good > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > him. Have to check but if memory serves, that is > > > > > > the > > > > > > > case. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush's chart shwos his two sides, as well as his > > > > > > > theft > > > > > > > of the 2000 elections. The KSY that everyone > > > > > > > mentions > > > > > > > is the linchpin in the entire chart, as is the > > > > > > > prescence of SAturn in the Asc, ruling the 8tth > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > of intrigues and scandals. Of course, the 8th also > > > > > > > represents assassinations, and we know that there > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > already been attempts on his life, going back to > > > > > > Sep > > > > > > > 11. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saf-de Sati transits are almost always profound > > > > > > > times > > > > > > > of loss in one's life. Often times, it can > > > > > > represent > > > > > > > the loss of a praent, and it is certainly possible > > > > > > > that GWB could lose his own father or mother under > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > It is also possible that he could lose his own > > > > > > life, > > > > > > > and even if it isn't literally, politically. It is > > > > > > > extremely difficult to mount anything successful > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > a Sade Sati transit, and he has this in progress > > > > > > > over > > > > > > > his Asc; at the time of Sep 11, it hadn't started, > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > has since. As GWB's chart represents the USA as a > > > > > > > whole, we can see the profound economic losses > > > > > > > everyone here is undergoing at this time, and it > > > > > > is > > > > > > > not likely to get much better. Note the transit of > > > > > > > Jupiter going thru Bush';s ASc, it barely > > > > > > registers > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > blip on the radar screen. SS says it all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your serve... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Salaam, > > > > > > > Mu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > > > > Mu'Min M. Bey > > > > > > > Western and Vedic Astrologer > > > > > > > Priority Email: jedimu11 > > > > > > > AOL IM Screen Name: JediMu > > > > > > > 267-467-5158 > > > > > > > Join the Pan Astrological Forum, Where Freedom in > > > > > > > Astrological Thought Lives! 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