The Art of Prediction - 1 - To Nicholas

March 11, 2003

Dear Nicholas,

Thanks for answering. You are very much right. I know

some people who work on trasit considering Sun as

base.

I know this and that is the question. Rule must be

rule. Destiny's rule can not be a matter of choice

that's what I believe.

I would like to discuss this with example. My Asc.

sign is LEO and moon sign is LIBRA. Now Saturn is

right now in Tarus. So from Asc. it is placed in 10th

and from Moon it is placed in 8th. Now what I want to

know is THERE MUST BE ONLY ONE RULE. Either it should

give result of 10th or 8th. Why such basic things can

not be concluded by experts?

I would also like to know your's prefered method.

regards,

Tushar

Nicholas <jyotish108 wrote:

> Dear Tushar

> The trouble here is that some astrologers take

> transits from Lagna whilst

> others take from Moon , some very good ones can work

> with both and even

> transits from the other planets as well .

> I think transits work most easily from the Lagna

> since that is generally

> considered most important as the foundation of the

> chart . Also lagna

> calculations tend to give more readily observable

> external characteristics .

> There are good astrologers who prefer Lagna and good

> ones who prefer Moon .

> Also we are individuals with abilities and

> limitations and one person can

> get one tool A working well while struggling with

> tool B whilst a second can

> get tool B working well whilst struggling with tool

> A

> Hope this helps

> Nicholas

>

> > Dear List members and experts,

> >

> > I'm student of Astrology. I'm trying to learn

> Vedic Astrology in

> > logical and scientific ways. From my little

> experience I have

> > realized that prediction is really an art. I have

> meet more than 50

> > astrologer at local level but frankly speaking

> nobody can convinced

> > me. Most of them are blind followers of old books.

> I do agree that

> > our ancient knowledge in this subject is

> unchallengable but certain

> > views should be changed according to respective

> time and culture. For

> > example definition of foreign country travel is

> need to be changed

> > now. Some books have given rules for how many

> wives a man will have.

> > In this age marring anoher person while first life

> partner exist is

> > illegal in most of countries. So such rules are

> also to be changed.

> > Let's take another example, in India marriage

> related problems are

> > commonly putted in front of astrologer by people

> in age group of 25

> > to 35. In this matter in India there are some

> rules regarding late

> > marriage etc. But if we look at the developed

> country like USA,

> > people can enjoy life greatly with opposite sex

> person without

> > marrying him. So I think such rules should also

> need to be redefine.

> >

> > I always get confused in such situation while

> stuying someone's

> > horoscope. But now I have a great hope from this

> group. I have such

> > kind of queries and I'm expecting right guidance

> from experts members

> > of this group.

> >

> > In this message I'm putting my first query as

> follows :

> > ----------

> > Current transit of planets should be studied from

> Rising Sign or Moon

> > Sign? And Why?

> > (i.e. For example someone has Leo as Rising Sign

> and Libra as Moon

> > Sign then Current Saturn in Tarus will work as in

> 10th place or as

> > in 8th place)

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat

> Sat

> :

> gjlist-

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

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March 12, 2003

Dear Tushar

The truth is that for the example you have given there are some

effects from being 10th from Lagna and some from being 8th from Moon .

The Lagna represents one's direction in life and the Moon one's

mental state . Now one's life could be prospering in terms of

finance , status ,position ,opportunity , wealth whilst

psychologically one could be quite depressed . If the transits are

both favourable (from Moon and Lagna ) one can predict best results ,

if one is favorable one could predict average results and if both are

unfavorable one could predict bad results .

A lot goes on in someone's life so therefore if one wants to nut out

everything he might consider everything . In practise I use transits

from Lagna with only slight consideration of Moon transits .

Hope this helps

Nicholas

gjlist, tushar trivedi <tushar_9> wrote:

> Dear Nicholas,

>

> Thanks for answering. You are very much right. I know

> some people who work on trasit considering Sun as

> base.

>

> I know this and that is the question. Rule must be

> rule. Destiny's rule can not be a matter of choice

> that's what I believe.

>

> I would like to discuss this with example. My Asc.

> sign is LEO and moon sign is LIBRA. Now Saturn is

> right now in Tarus. So from Asc. it is placed in 10th

> and from Moon it is placed in 8th. Now what I want to

> know is THERE MUST BE ONLY ONE RULE. Either it should

> give result of 10th or 8th. Why such basic things can

> not be concluded by experts?

>

> I would also like to know your's prefered method.

>

> regards,

>

> Tushar

>

> Nicholas <jyotish108@h...> wrote:

> > Dear Tushar

> > The trouble here is that some astrologers take

> > transits from Lagna whilst

> > others take from Moon , some very good ones can work

> > with both and even

> > transits from the other planets as well .

> > I think transits work most easily from the Lagna

> > since that is generally

> > considered most important as the foundation of the

> > chart . Also lagna

> > calculations tend to give more readily observable

> > external characteristics .

> > There are good astrologers who prefer Lagna and good

> > ones who prefer Moon .

> > Also we are individuals with abilities and

> > limitations and one person can

> > get one tool A working well while struggling with

> > tool B whilst a second can

> > get tool B working well whilst struggling with tool

> > A

> > Hope this helps

> > Nicholas

> >

> > > Dear List members and experts,

> > >

> > > I'm student of Astrology. I'm trying to learn

> > Vedic Astrology in

> > > logical and scientific ways. From my little

> > experience I have

> > > realized that prediction is really an art. I have

> > meet more than 50

> > > astrologer at local level but frankly speaking

> > nobody can convinced

> > > me. Most of them are blind followers of old books.

> > I do agree that

> > > our ancient knowledge in this subject is

> > unchallengable but certain

> > > views should be changed according to respective

> > time and culture. For

> > > example definition of foreign country travel is

> > need to be changed

> > > now. Some books have given rules for how many

> > wives a man will have.

> > > In this age marring anoher person while first life

> > partner exist is

> > > illegal in most of countries. So such rules are

> > also to be changed.

> > > Let's take another example, in India marriage

> > related problems are

> > > commonly putted in front of astrologer by people

> > in age group of 25

> > > to 35. In this matter in India there are some

> > rules regarding late

> > > marriage etc. But if we look at the developed

> > country like USA,

> > > people can enjoy life greatly with opposite sex

> > person without

> > > marrying him. So I think such rules should also

> > need to be redefine.

> > >

> > > I always get confused in such situation while

> > stuying someone's

> > > horoscope. But now I have a great hope from this

> > group. I have such

> > > kind of queries and I'm expecting right guidance

> > from experts members

> > > of this group.

> > >

> > > In this message I'm putting my first query as

> > follows :

> > > ----------

> > > Current transit of planets should be studied from

> > Rising Sign or Moon

> > > Sign? And Why?

> > > (i.e. For example someone has Leo as Rising Sign

> > and Libra as Moon

> > > Sign then Current Saturn in Tarus will work as in

> > 10th place or as

> > > in 8th place)

> >

> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat

> > Sat

> > :

> > gjlist-

> >

> > Your use of is subject to

> >

>

> Web Hosting - establish your business online

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March 12, 2003

Thanks again for answering my question. I can

understand your theory. So it depends on what I want

to know. Saturn is considered very good while it

transit in 11th place. So if someone has saturn in

11th from lagna and in 1st from Moon (means in same

place) then can we predict that he/she will get good

result of 11th place but will feel lots of mental

stress etc. both things can be related and can not be

related also. You mean to say like this?

regards,

Tushar

--- yadusrestha <jyotish108 wrote:

> Dear Tushar

> The truth is that for the example you have given

> there are some

> effects from being 10th from Lagna and some from

> being 8th from Moon .

> The Lagna represents one's direction in life and the

> Moon one's

> mental state . Now one's life could be prospering in

> terms of

> finance , status ,position ,opportunity , wealth

> whilst

> psychologically one could be quite depressed . If

> the transits are

> both favourable (from Moon and Lagna ) one can

> predict best results ,

> if one is favorable one could predict average

> results and if both are

> unfavorable one could predict bad results .

> A lot goes on in someone's life so therefore if one

> wants to nut out

> everything he might consider everything . In

> practise I use transits

> from Lagna with only slight consideration of Moon

> transits .

> Hope this helps

> Nicholas

>

> gjlist, tushar trivedi

> <tushar_9> wrote:

> > Dear Nicholas,

> >

> > Thanks for answering. You are very much right. I

> know

> > some people who work on trasit considering Sun as

> > base.

> >

> > I know this and that is the question. Rule must be

> > rule. Destiny's rule can not be a matter of choice

> > that's what I believe.

> >

> > I would like to discuss this with example. My Asc.

> > sign is LEO and moon sign is LIBRA. Now Saturn is

> > right now in Tarus. So from Asc. it is placed in

> 10th

> > and from Moon it is placed in 8th. Now what I want

> to

> > know is THERE MUST BE ONLY ONE RULE. Either it

> should

> > give result of 10th or 8th. Why such basic things

> can

> > not be concluded by experts?

> >

> > I would also like to know your's prefered method.

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Tushar

> >

> > Nicholas <jyotish108@h...> wrote:

> > > Dear Tushar

> > > The trouble here is that some astrologers take

> > > transits from Lagna whilst

> > > others take from Moon , some very good ones can

> work

> > > with both and even

> > > transits from the other planets as well .

> > > I think transits work most easily from the Lagna

> > > since that is generally

> > > considered most important as the foundation of

> the

> > > chart . Also lagna

> > > calculations tend to give more readily

> observable

> > > external characteristics .

> > > There are good astrologers who prefer Lagna and

> good

> > > ones who prefer Moon .

> > > Also we are individuals with abilities and

> > > limitations and one person can

> > > get one tool A working well while struggling

> with

> > > tool B whilst a second can

> > > get tool B working well whilst struggling with

> tool

> > > A

> > > Hope this helps

> > > Nicholas

> > >

> > > > Dear List members and experts,

> > > >

> > > > I'm student of Astrology. I'm trying to learn

> > > Vedic Astrology in

> > > > logical and scientific ways. From my little

> > > experience I have

> > > > realized that prediction is really an art. I

> have

> > > meet more than 50

> > > > astrologer at local level but frankly speaking

> > > nobody can convinced

> > > > me. Most of them are blind followers of old

> books.

> > > I do agree that

> > > > our ancient knowledge in this subject is

> > > unchallengable but certain

> > > > views should be changed according to

> respective

> > > time and culture. For

> > > > example definition of foreign country travel

> is

> > > need to be changed

> > > > now. Some books have given rules for how many

> > > wives a man will have.

> > > > In this age marring anoher person while first

> life

> > > partner exist is

> > > > illegal in most of countries. So such rules

> are

> > > also to be changed.

> > > > Let's take another example, in India marriage

> > > related problems are

> > > > commonly putted in front of astrologer by

> people

> > > in age group of 25

> > > > to 35. In this matter in India there are some

> > > rules regarding late

> > > > marriage etc. But if we look at the developed

> > > country like USA,

> > > > people can enjoy life greatly with opposite

> sex

> > > person without

> > > > marrying him. So I think such rules should

> also

> > > need to be redefine.

> > > >

> > > > I always get confused in such situation while

> > > stuying someone's

> > > > horoscope. But now I have a great hope from

> this

> > > group. I have such

> > > > kind of queries and I'm expecting right

> guidance

> > > from experts members

> > > > of this group.

> > > >

> > > > In this message I'm putting my first query as

> > > follows :

> > > > ----------

> > > > Current transit of planets should be studied

> from

> > > Rising Sign or Moon

> > > > Sign? And Why?

> > > > (i.e. For example someone has Leo as Rising

> Sign

> > > and Libra as Moon

> > > > Sign then Current Saturn in Tarus will work

> as in

> > > 10th place or as

> > > > in 8th place)

> > >

> > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om

> Tat

> > > Sat

> > > :

> > > gjlist-

> > >

> > > Your use of is subject to

> > >

> >

> > Web Hosting - establish your business

> online

> > http://webhosting.

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat

> Sat

> :

> gjlist-

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

Web Hosting - establish your business online

http://webhosting.

March 12, 2003

Dear Tushar

yes that is how I would understand it .

Nicholas

-

"tushar trivedi" <tushar_9

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:45 PM

Re: [GJ] The Art of Prediction - 1 - To Nicholas

> Thanks again for answering my question. I can

> understand your theory. So it depends on what I want

> to know. Saturn is considered very good while it

> transit in 11th place. So if someone has saturn in

> 11th from lagna and in 1st from Moon (means in same

> place) then can we predict that he/she will get good

> result of 11th place but will feel lots of mental

> stress etc. both things can be related and can not be

> related also. You mean to say like this?

>

> regards,

>

> Tushar

>

> --- yadusrestha <jyotish108 wrote:

> > Dear Tushar

> > The truth is that for the example you have given

> > there are some

> > effects from being 10th from Lagna and some from

> > being 8th from Moon .

> > The Lagna represents one's direction in life and the

> > Moon one's

> > mental state . Now one's life could be prospering in

> > terms of

> > finance , status ,position ,opportunity , wealth

> > whilst

> > psychologically one could be quite depressed . If

> > the transits are

> > both favourable (from Moon and Lagna ) one can

> > predict best results ,

> > if one is favorable one could predict average

> > results and if both are

> > unfavorable one could predict bad results .

> > A lot goes on in someone's life so therefore if one

> > wants to nut out

> > everything he might consider everything . In

> > practise I use transits

> > from Lagna with only slight consideration of Moon

> > transits .

> > Hope this helps

> > Nicholas

> >

> > gjlist, tushar trivedi

> > <tushar_9> wrote:

> > > Dear Nicholas,

> > >

> > > Thanks for answering. You are very much right. I

> > know

> > > some people who work on trasit considering Sun as

> > > base.

> > >

> > > I know this and that is the question. Rule must be

> > > rule. Destiny's rule can not be a matter of choice

> > > that's what I believe.

> > >

> > > I would like to discuss this with example. My Asc.

> > > sign is LEO and moon sign is LIBRA. Now Saturn is

> > > right now in Tarus. So from Asc. it is placed in

> > 10th

> > > and from Moon it is placed in 8th. Now what I want

> > to

> > > know is THERE MUST BE ONLY ONE RULE. Either it

> > should

> > > give result of 10th or 8th. Why such basic things

> > can

> > > not be concluded by experts?

> > >

> > > I would also like to know your's prefered method.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > >

> > > Tushar

> > >

> > > Nicholas <jyotish108@h...> wrote:

> > > > Dear Tushar

> > > > The trouble here is that some astrologers take

> > > > transits from Lagna whilst

> > > > others take from Moon , some very good ones can

> > work

> > > > with both and even

> > > > transits from the other planets as well .

> > > > I think transits work most easily from the Lagna

> > > > since that is generally

> > > > considered most important as the foundation of

> > the

> > > > chart . Also lagna

> > > > calculations tend to give more readily

> > observable

> > > > external characteristics .

> > > > There are good astrologers who prefer Lagna and

> > good

> > > > ones who prefer Moon .

> > > > Also we are individuals with abilities and

> > > > limitations and one person can

> > > > get one tool A working well while struggling

> > with

> > > > tool B whilst a second can

> > > > get tool B working well whilst struggling with

> > tool

> > > > A

> > > > Hope this helps

> > > > Nicholas

> > > >

> > > > > Dear List members and experts,

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm student of Astrology. I'm trying to learn

> > > > Vedic Astrology in

> > > > > logical and scientific ways. From my little

> > > > experience I have

> > > > > realized that prediction is really an art. I

> > have

> > > > meet more than 50

> > > > > astrologer at local level but frankly speaking

> > > > nobody can convinced

> > > > > me. Most of them are blind followers of old

> > books.

> > > > I do agree that

> > > > > our ancient knowledge in this subject is

> > > > unchallengable but certain

> > > > > views should be changed according to

> > respective

> > > > time and culture. For

> > > > > example definition of foreign country travel

> > is

> > > > need to be changed

> > > > > now. Some books have given rules for how many

> > > > wives a man will have.

> > > > > In this age marring anoher person while first

> > life

> > > > partner exist is

> > > > > illegal in most of countries. So such rules

> > are

> > > > also to be changed.

> > > > > Let's take another example, in India marriage

> > > > related problems are

> > > > > commonly putted in front of astrologer by

> > people

> > > > in age group of 25

> > > > > to 35. In this matter in India there are some

> > > > rules regarding late

> > > > > marriage etc. But if we look at the developed

> > > > country like USA,

> > > > > people can enjoy life greatly with opposite

> > sex

> > > > person without

> > > > > marrying him. So I think such rules should

> > also

> > > > need to be redefine.

> > > > >

> > > > > I always get confused in such situation while

> > > > stuying someone's

> > > > > horoscope. But now I have a great hope from

> > this

> > > > group. I have such

> > > > > kind of queries and I'm expecting right

> > guidance

> > > > from experts members

> > > > > of this group.

> > > > >

> > > > > In this message I'm putting my first query as

> > > > follows :

> > > > > ----------

> > > > > Current transit of planets should be studied

> > from

> > > > Rising Sign or Moon

> > > > > Sign? And Why?

> > > > > (i.e. For example someone has Leo as Rising

> > Sign

> > > > and Libra as Moon

> > > > > Sign then Current Saturn in Tarus will work

> > as in

> > > > 10th place or as

> > > > > in 8th place)

> > > >

> > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om

> > Tat

> > > > Sat

> > > > :

> > > > gjlist-

> > > >

> > > > Your use of is subject to

> > > >

> > >

> > > Web Hosting - establish your business

> > online

> > > http://webhosting.

> >

> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat

> > Sat

> > :

> > gjlist-

> >

> > Your use of is subject to

> >

>

> Web Hosting - establish your business online

> http://webhosting.

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> : gjlist-

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

March 12, 2003

Tusha said:

Thanks again for answering my question. I can

understand your theory. So it depends on what I want

to know. Saturn is considered very good while it

transit in 11th place. So if someone has saturn in

11th from lagna and in 1st from Moon (means in same

place) then can we predict that he/she will get good

result of 11th place but will feel lots of mental

stress etc. both things can be related and can not be

related also. You mean to say like this?

***********

Since that is my placement, I am interested in this.

Thanks,

chrys333

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