Guest guest Posted May 10, 2003 Report Share Posted May 10, 2003 || Om Gurave Namah :: Om Namo Naaraayanaaya || Namaste Sarajit & list, In the chart under discussion, the fifth lord is moon, the natural karaka of 4th hose and the 'mana', which again supports the dictum about affliction of 4th house. I paste below another chart - suicide by hanging (Birth: Oct 27, 1958, 11.30pm, Delhi; Death: Dec 21, 1997, Hyderabad at abt dawn) Both, the 4th house and Moon, in fact all the benefics, are under PKY Regards & best wishes, Shailesh +--------------+|Ke HL |Mo GL |MaR Md | || | |Gk | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| | |As || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Rasi |-----------|| | | || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| |Sa |Su Me |Ra || | |Ju Ve | || | |AL | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ - Sarajit Poddar gjlist Thursday, May 08, 2003 7:18 PM [GJ] Suicide Case Jaya JagannathDear Rachel, +--------------+|As Me |Su Mo |Ke |Ma Sa || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Ju Ve | | ||HL | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Rasi |-----------||AL | | || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||GL |Ra |Md Gk | || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ Suicide tendencies are seen when the fourth house is under affiction. 4th is the sukha-sthana and affliction to that house cause depression which might culminate in suicide. In the horoscope, we find that the 4th house is under heavy affliction because of Saturn-Mars fight and the lord of 4th has gone to debility. The 5th house shows inner harmony and such thing like suicide can occur if there is strong internal unrest and turmoil. We see that the 5th lord is placed in Amavasya yoga and aspect by Rahu (the dire enemy of the Karaka Jupiter) from the 9th house. More to this the Karaka for inner harmony Jupiter is placed in the Rahu's house and in the 8th from the Sign, sufficiently weak to protect its significance. This is most likely a suice case. Best Wishes Sarajit - Nicholas gjlist Wednesday, May 07, 2003 4:49 PM Re: [GJ] Information required Dear Rachel Interesting question . For suicide the 1st Lord is usually connected with the 8th and there is usually involvement of the 3rd Lord .The connection of the 3rd house is because death comes by one's own hand . In this case using the Pisces lagna the 1st Lord is in the 12th house , the loss of self house , with the 3rd and 8th Lord . This is a clear indicator of death by one's own hand but whether it is deliberate or accidental it is difficult to judge . Nicholas - Rachel Cleary gjlist Wednesday, May 07, 2003 6:04 PM Re: [GJ] Information required Thanks Nicholas, At the time of death, it was suggested that it could have been a suicide. Since then, it has been accepted that it was an 'accidental' overdose. Is there indication of suicide in the chart? Regards Rachel. >"Nicholas" >gjlist > >Re: [GJ] Information required >Wed, 7 May 2003 16:51:33 +1000 > >Dear Rachel and Tarun > >I think the time of birth should be put back a few minutes to give a Pisces Lagna. > >For an Aries ascendent there is a RajaYoga in the 1st house whereas for Pisces the 1st Lord goes to the 12th with the 8th indicating short longevity . >1st Lord in 12th or 8th can indicate self destructive tendencies . >For Pisces Moon Mahadsaha takes on maraka qualities because of it's placement in the 2nd . This is aggravated by it's combustion from the Sun . >An afflicted 2nd house can cause one to consume bad foods . >The 4th house contains two natural malefics which is likely to give an unhappy mind that might resort to drugs . >The mental characteristics are further weakened because neither Moon or Mercury is strong . >The death degree for Saturn in Gemini is 7 degrees whilst Saturn is at 6 degrees 51 minutes in the natal chart . >Saturn had reached 5 degrees Gemini on the day of death . >A debilitated planet in the Lagna can also give lack of direction in life .Rahu is also casting an exact aspect on the debilitated Mercury . > >Hope this helps >Nicholas > - > Rachel Cleary > To: gjlist > Wednesday, May 07, 2003 9:17 AM > Re: [GJ] Information required > > > Dear Tarun, > > Here are the details of a young man who passed away fairly recently. > > Birthday: 23/4/74 Toowoomba Australia 151e57, 27s33 - @ 5.45 am > > Died: 16/10/02 @ 6.00pm Also Toowoomba Australia ( died of a drug overdose; alcohol and drug combination). > > Sorry I can not be more precise with the times- I hope this helps; I would be interested in any findings/comments. > > Regards, > > Rachel Cleary. > > > > >"Tarun Chopra" > >gjlist > >gjlist > >Subject: [GJ] Information required > >Sun, 04 May 2003 16:08:52 -0000 > > > >Hello Members, > > > >I am trying to find how a person dies for example a person dies with > >long illness or he dies walking like sudden death. If possible do > >send me the birth details of persons who have passed away and do > >mention how did they died if possible give their passing dates also. > > > >Regards > > > >Tarun Chopra > >naastrology/ Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo , send an email to: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.474 / Virus Database: 272 - Release Date: 4/18/2003 ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.478 / Virus Database: 275 - Release Date: 5/6/2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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