Guest guest Posted June 27, 2003 Report Share Posted June 27, 2003 Dear Andrew I would most appreciate your insights. I guess I have a lot to learn It looks like problems with perceptions (Moon) and 5th issues. How do you see the Malevaya? Thank you c Andrew Lynn gjlist Friday, June 27, 2003 11:21 AM Re: [GJ] To Be or not To Be > To the GJ list members: > I have recently joined this mailing list and I would like to correspond with> someone who can help me understand my vedic chart and the chart for my> husband. You must be careful about asking a large group of people for advice as you may end up with 100 different theories and become more confused than ever. I looked at your chart and see it as being no different from any other chart in that it has both strengths and weaknesses. I can see in five minutes what your trouble is and I could explain it in a few sentences without you parting with any money. I have consulted a well known jyothishi about my chart, however I was told my> chart was very difficult to interpret Why would that be so? It is a horoscope like any other and to say it is very difficult to interpret shows me you have consulted the wrong astrologer. Do not assume that somebody who has a "name" or charges a high price actually knows how to interpret a chart. The astrology world is full of bullshit artists. the consultation did not answer any> of the questions I had -but for some reason it helped me interpret my> husband's chart better. My husband and I only became aware that we have a> common karmic problem about 8 years ago. I would like to know what this "karmic" problem is. It is very easy for the astrologer to throw everything he doesn't understand into the karma basket. You say you both have a common karmic problem and I would ask. How do you know this? Who told you this? Why do you think it is karma? Karma essentially means "actions" like cause and effect actions. I would like to know who you consulted and who told you to part with a large sum of money to pay for yagyas etc. I have had many a person come to me after being told such nonsense about their charts and the need to perform expensive remedial measures etc. You need to tell us what you were told in regards to why you needed these remedial measures. I could tell you in a few sentences why you have suffered under Jupiter and Saturn periods. It is no mystery and any honest astrologer would tell you in five minutes. I also don't think any remedial measure can change your chart. Visit my site at www.members.optushome.com.au/skinbags/ where you can read some articles on karma etc..... AndrewOm Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo , send an email to: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2003 Report Share Posted June 27, 2003 Namaste Listmembers, Dear Lydia, I have not looked at Sten's chart (no ink, no paper, groan!), but I did look at your rasi and navamsa. I am replying to what I perceived as your greatest concern...leaving Sten to battle on without you. It is an unpleasant worry, but legitimate. Sten will predecease you. Hopefully you will find solace within the blessing of his peace. You are in safe hands with Andrew, he is knowledgeable and insightful. As subtle as a brick but will always be upfront with you!. I feel confident he can help you through this. Om Shanti, Love, Ann. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2003 Report Share Posted June 28, 2003 Dear Cynthia Most of my limited speaking on astrology is said on my own group which is a private group and hopefully a bullshit free zone where people can discuss astrology free from any agendas. I looked at both charts and would have charged maybe $200-250 to go deeply into both and look into the relationship compatibility, potential etc as well. I can call the US or Canada very cheaply so can offer a reading of two to 3 hours for $100 as I only like a bit of pocket money for my time as I make my living elsewhere. I don't know if I could help her with every problem but I could at least interpret the chart as I can see the afflictions. With chronic problems in the physical world the only real remedy is to move into identifying with your spirit as then you are incapable of being hurt. We all must wither and die physically but some of us are dealt very hard cards and no amount of soothsaying can alleviate the suffering. These two charts need a lot of time to go into explaining the energetics which are very complex. The charts seem to have very good compatibility in one way but very hard aspects in another which is usually the case in many relationships with certain energies in the start and later on others coming in as the relationship goes through its evolution. Two things we should not do, is underestimate the misery afflictions can bring, we also should have compassion for her and try to help her understand as best we can the nature of her energies so she can best utilize her strengths and minimize her weaknesses. To me the real power of astrology is in its use for self-understanding and awareness. After all problems really only repeat themsleves and become chronic when you are unaware of why you repeat them. By becoming self-aware you can recognize patterns and why you behave and create karma (actions). You cannot undo the past, but you can undo the way you react to it. That way the cycle of cause and effect can be defeated. Can someone confirm my data. I have Lydia's lagna at 4.56 Aquarius and Stens at 11.00 Leo. Solar Fire gives Lydia's at 5.01 Judging on what she has said I believe the sub lord of the lagna cusp is Sun because Sun is totally eclipsed by Ketu in the 3rd house of the nervous system and 3rd lord Mars is in exchange with Mercury who is retrograde. A powerful Saturn is in the nakshatra of 8th lord Mercury so chronic issues of the nervous system may be shown. The lagna lord Saturn is in the nakshatra of 8th lord Mercury. Saturn and Mercury are in very bad aspect to each other almost exactly 6/8. Saturn is in the 3rd house from Moon and Mercury in the 8th from Moon. Mercury is afflicted very badly by the worst aspect of Saturn in Navamsha. When Mercury is afflicted like this by Saturn it can reveal nerve weakness, lameness, chronic issues of the skin and mental worries like depression etc. >From the Moon 3rd lord Mars is in the 8th house from the 3rd and Saturn is also in the 8th house from the 3rd from lagna. Saturn will often damage the house it is located 8 houses from. (especially in transit). There is so much to see here but look at where Saturn has transited in the last few years starting from Aries, Shit, in the 8th house from Moon over Sun, Ketu, Mercury, Venus and now heading for natal Mars next month. Look at the whole chart and a clear pattern is shown. I am waiting for somebody to see a blindingly obvious thing that reveals why she has had such a difficult time, especially from Jupiter mahadasha onwards........ Andrew - cynthianovak gjlist Saturday, June 28, 2003 6:53 AM Re: [GJ] To Be or not To Be Dear Andrew I would most appreciate your insights. I guess I have a lot to learn It looks like problems with perceptions (Moon) and 5th issues. How do you see the Malevaya? Thank you c Andrew Lynn gjlist Friday, June 27, 2003 11:21 AM Re: [GJ] To Be or not To Be > To the GJ list members: > I have recently joined this mailing list and I would like to correspond with> someone who can help me understand my vedic chart and the chart for my> husband. You must be careful about asking a large group of people for advice as you may end up with 100 different theories and become more confused than ever. I looked at your chart and see it as being no different from any other chart in that it has both strengths and weaknesses. I can see in five minutes what your trouble is and I could explain it in a few sentences without you parting with any money. I have consulted a well known jyothishi about my chart, however I was told my> chart was very difficult to interpret Why would that be so? It is a horoscope like any other and to say it is very difficult to interpret shows me you have consulted the wrong astrologer. Do not assume that somebody who has a "name" or charges a high price actually knows how to interpret a chart. The astrology world is full of bullshit artists. the consultation did not answer any> of the questions I had -but for some reason it helped me interpret my> husband's chart better. My husband and I only became aware that we have a> common karmic problem about 8 years ago. I would like to know what this "karmic" problem is. It is very easy for the astrologer to throw everything he doesn't understand into the karma basket. You say you both have a common karmic problem and I would ask. How do you know this? Who told you this? Why do you think it is karma? Karma essentially means "actions" like cause and effect actions. I would like to know who you consulted and who told you to part with a large sum of money to pay for yagyas etc. I have had many a person come to me after being told such nonsense about their charts and the need to perform expensive remedial measures etc. You need to tell us what you were told in regards to why you needed these remedial measures. I could tell you in a few sentences why you have suffered under Jupiter and Saturn periods. It is no mystery and any honest astrologer would tell you in five minutes. I also don't think any remedial measure can change your chart. Visit my site at www.members.optushome.com.au/skinbags/ where you can read some articles on karma etc..... AndrewOm Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo , send an email to: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2003 Report Share Posted June 28, 2003 Dear Andrew and Lydia I came up with 12 degress Capricorn allowing for one hour of daylight saving . Could Lydia please confirm whether or not daylight savings is applicable Nicholas - Andrew Lynn gjlist Saturday, June 28, 2003 4:36 PM Re: [GJ] To Be or not To Be Dear Cynthia Most of my limited speaking on astrology is said on my own group which is a private group and hopefully a bullshit free zone where people can discuss astrology free from any agendas. I looked at both charts and would have charged maybe $200-250 to go deeply into both and look into the relationship compatibility, potential etc as well. I can call the US or Canada very cheaply so can offer a reading of two to 3 hours for $100 as I only like a bit of pocket money for my time as I make my living elsewhere. I don't know if I could help her with every problem but I could at least interpret the chart as I can see the afflictions. With chronic problems in the physical world the only real remedy is to move into identifying with your spirit as then you are incapable of being hurt. We all must wither and die physically but some of us are dealt very hard cards and no amount of soothsaying can alleviate the suffering. These two charts need a lot of time to go into explaining the energetics which are very complex. The charts seem to have very good compatibility in one way but very hard aspects in another which is usually the case in many relationships with certain energies in the start and later on others coming in as the relationship goes through its evolution. Two things we should not do, is underestimate the misery afflictions can bring, we also should have compassion for her and try to help her understand as best we can the nature of her energies so she can best utilize her strengths and minimize her weaknesses. To me the real power of astrology is in its use for self-understanding and awareness. After all problems really only repeat themsleves and become chronic when you are unaware of why you repeat them. By becoming self-aware you can recognize patterns and why you behave and create karma (actions). You cannot undo the past, but you can undo the way you react to it. That way the cycle of cause and effect can be defeated. Can someone confirm my data. I have Lydia's lagna at 4.56 Aquarius and Stens at 11.00 Leo. Solar Fire gives Lydia's at 5.01 Judging on what she has said I believe the sub lord of the lagna cusp is Sun because Sun is totally eclipsed by Ketu in the 3rd house of the nervous system and 3rd lord Mars is in exchange with Mercury who is retrograde. A powerful Saturn is in the nakshatra of 8th lord Mercury so chronic issues of the nervous system may be shown. The lagna lord Saturn is in the nakshatra of 8th lord Mercury. Saturn and Mercury are in very bad aspect to each other almost exactly 6/8. Saturn is in the 3rd house from Moon and Mercury in the 8th from Moon. Mercury is afflicted very badly by the worst aspect of Saturn in Navamsha. When Mercury is afflicted like this by Saturn it can reveal nerve weakness, lameness, chronic issues of the skin and mental worries like depression etc. >From the Moon 3rd lord Mars is in the 8th house from the 3rd and Saturn is also in the 8th house from the 3rd from lagna. Saturn will often damage the house it is located 8 houses from. (especially in transit). There is so much to see here but look at where Saturn has transited in the last few years starting from Aries, Shit, in the 8th house from Moon over Sun, Ketu, Mercury, Venus and now heading for natal Mars next month. Look at the whole chart and a clear pattern is shown. I am waiting for somebody to see a blindingly obvious thing that reveals why she has had such a difficult time, especially from Jupiter mahadasha onwards........ Andrew - cynthianovak gjlist Saturday, June 28, 2003 6:53 AM Re: [GJ] To Be or not To Be Dear Andrew I would most appreciate your insights. I guess I have a lot to learn It looks like problems with perceptions (Moon) and 5th issues. How do you see the Malevaya? Thank you c Andrew Lynn gjlist Friday, June 27, 2003 11:21 AM Re: [GJ] To Be or not To Be > To the GJ list members: > I have recently joined this mailing list and I would like to correspond with> someone who can help me understand my vedic chart and the chart for my> husband. You must be careful about asking a large group of people for advice as you may end up with 100 different theories and become more confused than ever. I looked at your chart and see it as being no different from any other chart in that it has both strengths and weaknesses. I can see in five minutes what your trouble is and I could explain it in a few sentences without you parting with any money. I have consulted a well known jyothishi about my chart, however I was told my> chart was very difficult to interpret Why would that be so? It is a horoscope like any other and to say it is very difficult to interpret shows me you have consulted the wrong astrologer. Do not assume that somebody who has a "name" or charges a high price actually knows how to interpret a chart. The astrology world is full of bullshit artists. the consultation did not answer any> of the questions I had -but for some reason it helped me interpret my> husband's chart better. My husband and I only became aware that we have a> common karmic problem about 8 years ago. I would like to know what this "karmic" problem is. It is very easy for the astrologer to throw everything he doesn't understand into the karma basket. You say you both have a common karmic problem and I would ask. How do you know this? Who told you this? Why do you think it is karma? Karma essentially means "actions" like cause and effect actions. I would like to know who you consulted and who told you to part with a large sum of money to pay for yagyas etc. I have had many a person come to me after being told such nonsense about their charts and the need to perform expensive remedial measures etc. You need to tell us what you were told in regards to why you needed these remedial measures. I could tell you in a few sentences why you have suffered under Jupiter and Saturn periods. It is no mystery and any honest astrologer would tell you in five minutes. I also don't think any remedial measure can change your chart. Visit my site at www.members.optushome.com.au/skinbags/ where you can read some articles on karma etc..... AndrewOm Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo , send an email to: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2003 Report Share Posted June 28, 2003 Dear Georgette I have May 11 1957 1.48 AM 45n31 122 w 59 DST ? Nicholas - Georgette Young Liebhaber gjlist Saturday, June 28, 2003 12:48 PM Re: [GJ] To Be or not To Be What's Lydia's birth information again?? Somehow, I missed the beginning threads of this conversation.GeorgetteAt 01:21 AM 6/28/2003 +1000, you wrote: > To the GJ list members:> I have recently joined this mailing list and I would like to correspond with> someone who can help me understand my vedic chart and the chart for my> husband. You must be careful about asking a large group of people for advice as you may end up with 100 different theories and become more confused than ever. I looked at your chart and see it as being no different from any other chart in that it has both strengths and weaknesses. I can see in five minutes what your trouble is and I could explain it in a few sentences without you parting with any money. I have consulted a well known jyothishi about my chart, however I was told my> chart was very difficult to interpret Why would that be so? It is a horoscope like any other and to say it is very difficult to interpret shows me you have consulted the wrong astrologer. Do not assume that somebody who has a "name" or charges a high price actually knows how to interpret a chart. The astrology world is full of bullshit artists. the consultation did not answer any> of the questions I had -but for some reason it helped me interpret my> husband's chart better. My husband and I only became aware that we have a> common karmic problem about 8 years ago. I would like to know what this "karmic" problem is. It is very easy for the astrologer to throw everything he doesn't understand into the karma basket. You say you both have a common karmic problem and I would ask. How do you know this? Who told you this? Why do you think it is karma? Karma essentially means "actions" like cause and effect actions. I would like to know who you consulted and who told you to part with a large sum of money to pay for yagyas etc. I have had many a person come to me after being told such nonsense about their charts and the need to perform expensive remedial measures etc. You need to tell us what you were told in regards to why you needed these remedial measures. I could tell you in a few sentences why you have suffered under Jupiter and Saturn periods. It is no mystery and any honest astrologer would tell you in five minutes. I also don't think any remedial measure can change your chart. Visit my site at www.members.optushome.com.au/skinbags/ where you can read some articles on karma etc..... AndrewOm Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo , send an email to: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Georgette Young Liebhaber, L.Ac., Q.M.E. Tel: 760-633-0009 Fax: 760-633-3009 www.Energetic-Medicine Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2003 Report Share Posted June 28, 2003 Dear Andrew Look at the whole chart and a clear pattern is shown. I am waiting for somebody to see a blindingly obvious thing that reveals why she has had such a difficult time, especially from Jupiter mahadasha onwards........ the obvious affliction in the chart is the Sun being so close to Ketu or the nodal axis which will give mysterious bodily afflictions . If Sun is 8th Lord it would also give mysterious life threatening circumstances . Now is the reasoning you are looking for the timing ( Jupiter MD) here is that Jupiter is in Sun nakshatra or in Sun's rasi ? Nicholas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2003 Report Share Posted June 28, 2003 Dear Lydia, If I might interject. I would like to comment briefly on the reason for your dissatisfaction with the yagyas you paid so much for. It's unfortunate that the pundit who recommended these yagyas hadn't read your chart more thoroughly. What many pundits don't tell you is that not everyone benefits from yagyas. As I'm sure you know, 9th house governs such things as yagyas, natural remedies, medicines etc.. It stands to reason that any affliction to 9th house will limit the benefit you can receive from these things. It will also limit your ability to receive a satisfactory reading...perhaps this is what prompted the pundit to say your chart was difficult to interpret. Doubtlessly Rahu in 9th (in Jupiter's nakshatra) will draw you to the affairs of this house but, considering the condition of Rahu's dispositor Venus and star lord Jupiter, it's not difficult to see the obstruction...both 9th lord Venus and Jupiter (karaka for 9th) are in nakshatra of Sun who, although exalted, is eclipsed by Ketu. This Sun also disposits Rx Jupiter and combusts 9th lord Venus. Ketu restricts in rather unusual or unexpected ways. He governs ghosts, spirits, astral forces, fears, theft, murder, isolation, witchcraft, magic and so forth. This is just a look at the reason you've not been able to benefit as you'd hoped from expensive yagyas. It's a shame that this has been your experience but it would be a greater shame to conclude that yagyas don't work...for many they do. PS: To the best of my understanding Multiple Sclerosis is a disease that affects the central nervous system. For you Rx 8th lord Mercury (ME governs nerve centres specifically) is conjunct Ketu who specifically governs the nervous system. Ascendant lord Saturn (in Rx motion) is in the constellation of this Mercury who also happens to be "dispositor of ascendant lord's dispositor". Not to mention the exchange between 8th lord Mercury and lagnesh Sani's dispositor Mars. No doubt the greatest cause of your suffering is Ketu this extremely complicated conjunction in your 3rd house... As Saturn is your Ascendant lord, with lagna his moolatrikona sign, I don't believe his aspect would be unfavourable (normally) but his own condition is not good and therefore his aspect cannot be terribly beneficial either. You are currently running the dasa of Saturn and I would advise you to wear blue sapphire and try to make it a daily habit to chant mahamrtyunjaya mantra daily. But, simply because your chart is so complicated, it's difficulty to suggest remedies with any great confidence...certainly you can't go wrong with mrtyunjaya. It might be good to wait and see what other learned members have to say :-) Best Wishes, Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ----------------------------- > gjlist, "Boone" <olboone@m...> wrote: > Dear Cynthia: > I am not a petty person. I am writing about a real serious situation > and I > did give it quite a bit of thought. I believe I have quite a bit of > protection, I've seen it in action, I might be complaining that is > certainly > likely. My husband is very fatigued about all he has responsibility > for and > I notice it is getting to the point I need to understand what to do. > I am > physically disabled, I have nearly been murdered on a number of > occasions > and we have been on the run avoiding many types of problems. We > don't live > in a house, my husband no longer works at his career, we have dealt > with > thieves, bad officials, corrupt employers, underworld types, weapons, > conniving people of all sorts, heavy financial losses, complicated > health > problems, spiritual matters beyond the knowledge we have in this > life, the > total and complete loss of everything most people would consider > essential. > I agree we have great looking charts as far as some of the readings > but we > are not benefiting from many of the good planetary placements, (as > much as > it initially looks like we could). That is what I meant when I > indicated I > was looking for a break, especially for my husband. We have spent > more than > $11,000. on yagyas and remedial measures in a short time and what I > mean is > when will there be some hope that it will get better? > I am not going through some planetary PMS. I think it is silly to > even > mention "fears" in terms of mental activity to me. My chart is too > difficult > to read accurately, I now have a second opinion to reinforce that. > The first > time I hired my chart read the astrologer got very confused, I got a > reading > somewhere between a really good person and potentially Hitler's > bride. My > husband's life is a break even event, he knows more about deception, > treachery, and nerve wracking danger than a good person should have > to. I > realize that works for something unseen, I'm complaining AND I want > to know > when could I say "It really looks better here, now, this time, > probably". I > would like to discuss what to look for in the way of transits and > dasha/bhukti periods that we can gain a foothold back into the world > we are > tied to by our responsibilities such as bill paying, reducing heavy > labor, > and dealing with life threatening health problems. Many of those > problems > can be seen from my chart especially. > For instance both my husband and I have the moon placed in the > eighth house. > In my case that is the lord of the sixth in the eighth. This is one > reason I > have had multiple sclerosis for over 25 years. Putting one foot in > front of > the other as you have suggested isn't always that easy. If I were > indulging > in self pity I wouldn't have any trouble passing on. Maybe I could > pass the > responsibility of licking this matter to my very disheartened > husband. You > can't imagine the fear of leaving him here to deal with this on his > own! I > am making a joke, To BE or not To BE, but really this is very > serious. I do > understand some of the source of the problems but I don't understand > what we > should be looking for. I did mention what the source of the problem > is and I > think someone out there may catch my drift. > One problem I have is my environment presents a lot of challenges- > physical, > mental, emotional and spiritual. This isolation is a real problem, > not on > the level of a simple mental delusion. The events described > occurred, and > not once but many variations with a lot of peculiar similarities. > You are > correct about obtaining benefit from Jupiter, my husband is the > person who > has to take a lot of responsibility in dealing in the world for me, > it is a > tremendous burden for him. > Thank you for taking the time to read my letter. My chart is very > difficult > to understand, possibly you have more information now to confirm > that for > yourself. > Lydia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2003 Report Share Posted June 28, 2003 Dear Nicholas: I don't think daylight savings time applies, I have Aquarius Ascendant, at 4 degrees and 50 minutes. - Nicholas gjlist Saturday, June 28, 2003 3:34 AM Re: [GJ] To Be or not To Be Dear Andrew and Lydia I came up with 12 degress Capricorn allowing for one hour of daylight saving . Could Lydia please confirm whether or not daylight savings is applicable Nicholas - Andrew Lynn gjlist Saturday, June 28, 2003 4:36 PM Re: [GJ] To Be or not To Be Dear Cynthia Most of my limited speaking on astrology is said on my own group which is a private group and hopefully a bullshit free zone where people can discuss astrology free from any agendas. I looked at both charts and would have charged maybe $200-250 to go deeply into both and look into the relationship compatibility, potential etc as well. I can call the US or Canada very cheaply so can offer a reading of two to 3 hours for $100 as I only like a bit of pocket money for my time as I make my living elsewhere. I don't know if I could help her with every problem but I could at least interpret the chart as I can see the afflictions. With chronic problems in the physical world the only real remedy is to move into identifying with your spirit as then you are incapable of being hurt. We all must wither and die physically but some of us are dealt very hard cards and no amount of soothsaying can alleviate the suffering. These two charts need a lot of time to go into explaining the energetics which are very complex. The charts seem to have very good compatibility in one way but very hard aspects in another which is usually the case in many relationships with certain energies in the start and later on others coming in as the relationship goes through its evolution. Two things we should not do, is underestimate the misery afflictions can bring, we also should have compassion for her and try to help her understand as best we can the nature of her energies so she can best utilize her strengths and minimize her weaknesses. To me the real power of astrology is in its use for self-understanding and awareness. After all problems really only repeat themsleves and become chronic when you are unaware of why you repeat them. By becoming self-aware you can recognize patterns and why you behave and create karma (actions). You cannot undo the past, but you can undo the way you react to it. That way the cycle of cause and effect can be defeated. Can someone confirm my data. I have Lydia's lagna at 4.56 Aquarius and Stens at 11.00 Leo. Solar Fire gives Lydia's at 5.01 Judging on what she has said I believe the sub lord of the lagna cusp is Sun because Sun is totally eclipsed by Ketu in the 3rd house of the nervous system and 3rd lord Mars is in exchange with Mercury who is retrograde. A powerful Saturn is in the nakshatra of 8th lord Mercury so chronic issues of the nervous system may be shown. The lagna lord Saturn is in the nakshatra of 8th lord Mercury. Saturn and Mercury are in very bad aspect to each other almost exactly 6/8. Saturn is in the 3rd house from Moon and Mercury in the 8th from Moon. Mercury is afflicted very badly by the worst aspect of Saturn in Navamsha. When Mercury is afflicted like this by Saturn it can reveal nerve weakness, lameness, chronic issues of the skin and mental worries like depression etc. >From the Moon 3rd lord Mars is in the 8th house from the 3rd and Saturn is also in the 8th house from the 3rd from lagna. Saturn will often damage the house it is located 8 houses from. (especially in transit). There is so much to see here but look at where Saturn has transited in the last few years starting from Aries, Shit, in the 8th house from Moon over Sun, Ketu, Mercury, Venus and now heading for natal Mars next month. Look at the whole chart and a clear pattern is shown. I am waiting for somebody to see a blindingly obvious thing that reveals why she has had such a difficult time, especially from Jupiter mahadasha onwards........ Andrew - cynthianovak gjlist Saturday, June 28, 2003 6:53 AM Re: [GJ] To Be or not To Be Dear Andrew I would most appreciate your insights. I guess I have a lot to learn It looks like problems with perceptions (Moon) and 5th issues. How do you see the Malevaya? Thank you c Andrew Lynn gjlist Friday, June 27, 2003 11:21 AM Re: [GJ] To Be or not To Be > To the GJ list members: > I have recently joined this mailing list and I would like to correspond with> someone who can help me understand my vedic chart and the chart for my> husband. You must be careful about asking a large group of people for advice as you may end up with 100 different theories and become more confused than ever. I looked at your chart and see it as being no different from any other chart in that it has both strengths and weaknesses. I can see in five minutes what your trouble is and I could explain it in a few sentences without you parting with any money. I have consulted a well known jyothishi about my chart, however I was told my> chart was very difficult to interpret Why would that be so? It is a horoscope like any other and to say it is very difficult to interpret shows me you have consulted the wrong astrologer. Do not assume that somebody who has a "name" or charges a high price actually knows how to interpret a chart. The astrology world is full of bullshit artists. the consultation did not answer any> of the questions I had -but for some reason it helped me interpret my> husband's chart better. My husband and I only became aware that we have a> common karmic problem about 8 years ago. I would like to know what this "karmic" problem is. It is very easy for the astrologer to throw everything he doesn't understand into the karma basket. You say you both have a common karmic problem and I would ask. How do you know this? Who told you this? Why do you think it is karma? Karma essentially means "actions" like cause and effect actions. I would like to know who you consulted and who told you to part with a large sum of money to pay for yagyas etc. I have had many a person come to me after being told such nonsense about their charts and the need to perform expensive remedial measures etc. You need to tell us what you were told in regards to why you needed these remedial measures. I could tell you in a few sentences why you have suffered under Jupiter and Saturn periods. It is no mystery and any honest astrologer would tell you in five minutes. I also don't think any remedial measure can change your chart. Visit my site at www.members.optushome.com.au/skinbags/ where you can read some articles on karma etc..... AndrewOm Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo , send an email to: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2003 Report Share Posted June 28, 2003 Thank you Wendy, Yes I found the Mahamrityunajaya Mantra in my astrology course material and I have a tape to hear the pronounciation. I do chant this mantra but not regularly. You are correct this helps. The mantra for the Sri Yantra helps especially for herbs. I was not able to wear the blue sapphire I purchased possibly because of wrong timing or it was irradiated. I love looking at it, to me the color is beautiful. I do wear a large white sapphire and I notice when I'm not wearing it. I'm keeping a file of these chart readings when I'm at the computer I'll go over them to understand better the interpretations you have provided. What is the color for the yantra of Shiva the Rudra and the mahamrityunjaya mantra? I really appreciate the time you have taken to write about this. Lydia - "Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas <gjlist> Saturday, June 28, 2003 7:56 AM Re: [GJ] To Be or not To Be > Dear Lydia, > > If I might interject. I would like to comment briefly on the reason for your > dissatisfaction with the yagyas you paid so much for. It's unfortunate that > the pundit who recommended these yagyas hadn't read your chart more > thoroughly. What many pundits don't tell you is that not everyone benefits > from yagyas. As I'm sure you know, 9th house governs such things as yagyas, > natural remedies, medicines etc.. It stands to reason that any affliction to > 9th house will limit the benefit you can receive from these things. It will > also limit your ability to receive a satisfactory reading...perhaps this is > what prompted the pundit to say your chart was difficult to interpret. > > Doubtlessly Rahu in 9th (in Jupiter's nakshatra) will draw you to the > affairs of this house but, considering the condition of Rahu's dispositor > Venus and star lord Jupiter, it's not difficult to see the > obstruction...both 9th lord Venus and Jupiter (karaka for 9th) are in > nakshatra of Sun who, although exalted, is eclipsed by Ketu. This Sun also > disposits Rx Jupiter and combusts 9th lord Venus. > > Ketu restricts in rather unusual or unexpected ways. He governs ghosts, > spirits, astral forces, fears, theft, murder, isolation, witchcraft, magic > and so forth. > > This is just a look at the reason you've not been able to benefit as you'd > hoped from expensive yagyas. It's a shame that this has been your experience > but it would be a greater shame to conclude that yagyas don't work...for > many they do. > > PS: To the best of my understanding Multiple Sclerosis is a disease that > affects the central nervous system. For you Rx 8th lord Mercury (ME governs > nerve centres specifically) is conjunct Ketu who specifically governs the > nervous system. Ascendant lord Saturn (in Rx motion) is in the constellation > of this Mercury who also happens to be "dispositor of ascendant lord's > dispositor". Not to mention the exchange between 8th lord Mercury and > lagnesh Sani's dispositor Mars. > > No doubt the greatest cause of your suffering is Ketu this extremely > complicated conjunction in your 3rd house... As Saturn is your Ascendant > lord, with lagna his moolatrikona sign, I don't believe his aspect would be > unfavourable (normally) but his own condition is not good and therefore his > aspect cannot be terribly beneficial either. You are currently running the > dasa of Saturn and I would advise you to wear blue sapphire and try to make > it a daily habit to chant mahamrtyunjaya mantra daily. But, simply because > your chart is so complicated, it's difficulty to suggest remedies with any > great confidence...certainly you can't go wrong with mrtyunjaya. > > It might be good to wait and see what other learned members have to say :-) > > Best Wishes, > Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ----------------------------- > > > gjlist, "Boone" <olboone@m...> wrote: > > Dear Cynthia: > > I am not a petty person. I am writing about a real serious situation > > and I > > did give it quite a bit of thought. I believe I have quite a bit of > > protection, I've seen it in action, I might be complaining that is > > certainly > > likely. My husband is very fatigued about all he has responsibility > > for and > > I notice it is getting to the point I need to understand what to do. > > I am > > physically disabled, I have nearly been murdered on a number of > > occasions > > and we have been on the run avoiding many types of problems. We > > don't live > > in a house, my husband no longer works at his career, we have dealt > > with > > thieves, bad officials, corrupt employers, underworld types, weapons, > > conniving people of all sorts, heavy financial losses, complicated > > health > > problems, spiritual matters beyond the knowledge we have in this > > life, the > > total and complete loss of everything most people would consider > > essential. > > I agree we have great looking charts as far as some of the readings > > but we > > are not benefiting from many of the good planetary placements, (as > > much as > > it initially looks like we could). That is what I meant when I > > indicated I > > was looking for a break, especially for my husband. We have spent > > more than > > $11,000. on yagyas and remedial measures in a short time and what I > > mean is > > when will there be some hope that it will get better? > > I am not going through some planetary PMS. I think it is silly to > > even > > mention "fears" in terms of mental activity to me. My chart is too > > difficult > > to read accurately, I now have a second opinion to reinforce that. > > The first > > time I hired my chart read the astrologer got very confused, I got a > > reading > > somewhere between a really good person and potentially Hitler's > > bride. My > > husband's life is a break even event, he knows more about deception, > > treachery, and nerve wracking danger than a good person should have > > to. I > > realize that works for something unseen, I'm complaining AND I want > > to know > > when could I say "It really looks better here, now, this time, > > probably". I > > would like to discuss what to look for in the way of transits and > > dasha/bhukti periods that we can gain a foothold back into the world > > we are > > tied to by our responsibilities such as bill paying, reducing heavy > > labor, > > and dealing with life threatening health problems. Many of those > > problems > > can be seen from my chart especially. > > For instance both my husband and I have the moon placed in the > > eighth house. > > In my case that is the lord of the sixth in the eighth. This is one > > reason I > > have had multiple sclerosis for over 25 years. Putting one foot in > > front of > > the other as you have suggested isn't always that easy. If I were > > indulging > > in self pity I wouldn't have any trouble passing on. Maybe I could > > pass the > > responsibility of licking this matter to my very disheartened > > husband. You > > can't imagine the fear of leaving him here to deal with this on his > > own! I > > am making a joke, To BE or not To BE, but really this is very > > serious. I do > > understand some of the source of the problems but I don't understand > > what we > > should be looking for. I did mention what the source of the problem > > is and I > > think someone out there may catch my drift. > > One problem I have is my environment presents a lot of challenges- > > physical, > > mental, emotional and spiritual. This isolation is a real problem, > > not on > > the level of a simple mental delusion. The events described > > occurred, and > > not once but many variations with a lot of peculiar similarities. > > You are > > correct about obtaining benefit from Jupiter, my husband is the > > person who > > has to take a lot of responsibility in dealing in the world for me, > > it is a > > tremendous burden for him. > > Thank you for taking the time to read my letter. My chart is very > > difficult > > to understand, possibly you have more information now to confirm > > that for > > yourself. > > Lydia > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2003 Report Share Posted June 28, 2003 Dear Lydia, Yes indeed the Blue Sapphire (due to aspect on Venus and 7th house) is something you should be cautious about. If your stone is not authentic "jyotish quality" it can do more harm than good, so please do be careful in this regard. You're absolutely correct about the white sapphire...it's good for Venus and (if the quality's good) can be of great benefit, as can diamond too of course as YogaKaraka Venus suffers from being combust eclipsed Sun. An option also that may bring some relief for you is to give (in charity) the things related to Ketu. This doesn't have to be any big outlay...small things that you probably already have. Certain daily rituals are also helpful in alleviating Ketu affliction. You mentioned (I think) something about the difficulties you faced with the medical profession's inability to diagnose you properly in early stages before the full onset of your disease. You might like to consider the significance of 6th lord Moon in 8th house. 6th we know signifies the medical profession and 8th, of course, shows chronic illness. I think MS, as with many other illnesses, responds better if diagnosed properly in the early stages...just something to think about perhaps. PS: I had a quick look at your husband's chart and wonder if it's at all possible his lagna might be Virgo? (time to put this computer to bed, way past bedtime) Best Wishes, Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com Please send queries to list - not to me personally. ----------------------------- - "Boone" <olboone <gjlist> Sunday, June 29, 2003 1:12 AM Re: [GJ] To Be or not To Be > Thank you Wendy, > Yes I found the Mahamrityunajaya Mantra in my astrology course material and > I have a tape to hear the pronounciation. I do chant this mantra but not > regularly. You are correct this helps. The mantra for the Sri Yantra helps > especially for herbs. I was not able to wear the blue sapphire I purchased > possibly because of wrong timing or it was irradiated. I love looking at it, > to me the color is beautiful. I do wear a large white sapphire and I notice > when I'm not wearing it. I'm keeping a file of these chart readings when I'm > at the computer I'll go over them to understand better the interpretations > you have provided. What is the color for the yantra of Shiva the Rudra and > the mahamrityunjaya mantra? I really appreciate the time you have taken to > write about this. > Lydia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2003 Report Share Posted June 28, 2003 Dear Lydia, >>>What is the color for the yantra of Shiva the Rudra and the mahamrityunjaya mantra?<<< I'm not too sure off-hand I'm afraid. I'd have to look it up. I can have a look tomorrow. In the meantime some other member might be able to help with this. Best Wishes, Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com Please send queries to list - not to me personally. ----------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2003 Report Share Posted June 28, 2003 Dear Wendy: I do believe Sten's asc. is Leo. He is surrounded by references to kings, his adopted parents kept his Swedish middle name Hokan as he was named after the king. He has a lion like expression and glows radiantly at times. Not a lot of self confidence though, doesn't do well when not appreciated. Pitta/Vata type with a lot of heat coming off of him. He appears to look red sometimes. His career is in construction and he was always in charge in some way. I usually have a subordinate roll in the relationship. He has genetic defects in his appearance I attributed that to Ketu in the first house. I thought Saturn in the second house was causing him to have to work hard for money. So some of the indications of why I think so. He was adopted by American parents, his Swedish parents could not keep him, and he was raised in a compound in Saudi Arabia before his American parents retired to the west coast in the States. RE: M.S. I am done with the early stages but I have had results stopping inflammation. Inability to have had it diagnosed probably changed the course of my life. I know about Ayurveda, Vedic Astrology and Vedic Science directly from trying to deal with recurrent health problems. I might not have been looking. Thank you again. Lydia - "Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas <gjlist> Saturday, June 28, 2003 1:50 PM Re: [GJ] To Be or not To Be > Dear Lydia, > > Yes indeed the Blue Sapphire (due to aspect on Venus and 7th house) is > something you should be cautious about. If your stone is not authentic > "jyotish quality" it can do more harm than good, so please do be careful in > this regard. You're absolutely correct about the white sapphire...it's good > for Venus and (if the quality's good) can be of great benefit, as can > diamond too of course as YogaKaraka Venus suffers from being combust > eclipsed Sun. An option also that may bring some relief for you is to give > (in charity) the things related to Ketu. This doesn't have to be any big > outlay...small things that you probably already have. Certain daily rituals > are also helpful in alleviating Ketu affliction. > > You mentioned (I think) something about the difficulties you faced with the > medical profession's inability to diagnose you properly in early stages > before the full onset of your disease. You might like to consider the > significance of 6th lord Moon in 8th house. 6th we know signifies the > medical profession and 8th, of course, shows chronic illness. I think MS, as > with many other illnesses, responds better if diagnosed properly in the > early stages...just something to think about perhaps. > > PS: I had a quick look at your husband's chart and wonder if it's at all > possible his lagna might be Virgo? > > (time to put this computer to bed, way past bedtime) > > Best Wishes, > Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > > Please send queries to list - > not to me personally. > ----------------------------- > > - > "Boone" <olboone > <gjlist> > Sunday, June 29, 2003 1:12 AM > Re: [GJ] To Be or not To Be > > > > Thank you Wendy, > > Yes I found the Mahamrityunajaya Mantra in my astrology course material > and > > I have a tape to hear the pronounciation. I do chant this mantra but not > > regularly. You are correct this helps. The mantra for the Sri Yantra helps > > especially for herbs. I was not able to wear the blue sapphire I purchased > > possibly because of wrong timing or it was irradiated. I love looking at > it, > > to me the color is beautiful. I do wear a large white sapphire and I > notice > > when I'm not wearing it. I'm keeping a file of these chart readings when > I'm > > at the computer I'll go over them to understand better the interpretations > > you have provided. What is the color for the yantra of Shiva the Rudra and > > the mahamrityunjaya mantra? I really appreciate the time you have taken to > > write about this. > > Lydia > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2003 Report Share Posted June 29, 2003 Dear Lydia, >>>>I do believe Sten's asc. is Leo. He is surrounded by references to kings,his adopted parents kept his Swedish middle name Hokan as he was named afterthe king. He has a lion like expression and glows radiantly at times. Not alot of self confidence though, doesn't do well when not appreciated.Pitta/Vata type with a lot of heat coming off of him. He appears to look redsometimes.<<<< All this could be attributed to Ascendant lord combust Sun. Virgo, a Vata sign, is occupied by Vata Saturn. Lagnesh Mercury and Sun are in Gemini who manifests all three humours so no great influence by sign placement. This leaves the dominant influence (on lagnesh) of Pitta Sun. Waning Moon aspecting lagna from Pisces indicates some kapha dominance in the physiology also but this is greatly watered down by the fact that Moon is waning and by the (mutual) aspect of Saturn. The kapha tendency would obviously manifest more on an emotional level. Kapha Moon aspecting lagna and afflicted by Saturn can indicate one who, under adverse circumstances, could become withdrawn with feelings of hopelessness and melancholy. Moon aspecting lagna gives fluctuations in disposition. >>>>His career is in construction and he was always in charge in someway. I usually have a subordinate roll in the relationship. He has geneticdefects in his appearance I attributed that to Ketu in the first house. Ithought Saturn in the second house was causing him to have to work hard formoney. So some of the indications of why I think so.<<<< Having positions of authority (in charge in some way) could be seen with lagnesh conjunct Sun in 10th...Sun being the planet of authority. Having a career in which you have people working under you (subordinates) could well be seen with 10th lord Mercury in nakshatra of Rahu (who sits in 6th house of subordinates). I'm not trying to change your mind Lydia, just offering another perspective :-) In regards to genetic defect in appearance, Just Ketu in lagna does not necessarily indicate this. I have Ketu in lagna and so too does my ex-husband. Neither of us have any genetic defect in appearance. For Sten, with Leo lagna, Ketu is akin to YogaKaraka Mars. With Virgo rising Ketu is akin to 3rd/8th lord Mars. For Leo, Ketu occupies lagna and for Virgo, lagnesh Mercury is combust Ketu's dispositor whilst malefic Saturn occupies 1st (general appearance) and malefic Mars occupies 2nd (face). >>>>He was adopted byAmerican parents, his Swedish parents could not keep him, and he was raisedin a compound in Saudi Arabia before his American parents retired to thewest coast in the States.<<<< Saturn is the planet of adoption; 6th indicates step-mother (or adopting mother) and 12th indicates step-father. Sten has 6th lord Saturn in lagna aspecting both Moon (mother) and 12th lord Sun (father). I don't know at what age he was adopted but he was born in Mercury mahadasa which ran until he was 10 yrs old. Lagnesh Mercury conjunct 12th lord Sun in 10th indicates "living abroad". I think Moon in 7th in constellation of Mercury (his Ascendant lord) indicates a somewhat subordinate role for spouse, what do you think? I also see 7th lord Jupiter in 8th aspected by 8th lord Mars indicating a spouse with chronic or long-term health problems. Significator of spouse (Venus) in 9th indicates a spouse drawn to Vedic sciences i.e., yagyas, remedies, jyotish, ayurveda etc..for whatever reason. However, the aspect of Mars (to his dispositor Venus in 9th) suggests to me that the interest in Vedic knowledge may have been spurred on by the need to find answers for the chronic health problems you suffer. These are just my ideas. You can mull them over if you like, or toss them out...after all you know your husband's life intimately and are better able to confirm the major events in his life :-) >>>>RE: M.S. I am done with the early stages but I have had results stoppinginflammation. Inability to have had it diagnosed probably changed the courseof my life. I know about Ayurveda, Vedic Astrology and Vedic Sciencedirectly from trying to deal with recurrent health problems. I might nothave been looking.<<<< Yes! had you had a proper diagnosis in the early stages the outcome might have been different. But that wasn't your destiny with 6th lord's dispositor conjunct Ketu who signifies difficult to diagnose health problems; difficult to diagnose problems of any sort for that matter...in 4th house can indicate difficult to diagnose problems with vehicles etc.. So, it was to be that you had difficulties with diagnosis. PS: As I don't normally participate on this list I invite you to respond on JyotishVidya if you so wish :-) Best Wishes,Wendyhttp://JyotishVidya.com Please send queries to list -not to me personally.----------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2003 Report Share Posted June 29, 2003 Om Namo Narayanaya, Dear Lydia, I've seen your chart. Though, I always doubt navamsa accuracy, I can realy on standard techniques to at least somehow, try to help you understand these problems. You were born under the kumba lagna with Shani in 10th house in Vrischika (Insect Sign) which is bad since Shani is in great enemy sign and Vakra.(retrograde). It has tremondous strength to manifest all his significations which are mostly bad. Shani is near Mritybhaga degree, it is in Papa Kartary yoga of Rahu, and in such cases when Lagnesh is in insect sign (scorpio) and retrograde, health problems are sure, long and painful. The strength given by retrogression has only given you indurance. This retrograde Shani makes himself the most improtant graha in the chart, leading your destiny. The rule is: RETROGRADE grahas have tremendous Chesta Bala (see Parashara calculations) are act like Independent SUNS, so tend to express the most important areas in your life. Atmakarak Guru is further retrograde, which means that Spirituality both in you and your husband (guru is in 7th) will be leading force in your life. Unfortunately, Budha is subhapati, or chandra dispositor making the 8th house highly important in your life(Budha retrograde). You have two marana karaka sthans, such as Chandra in 8th, ruining 6th house of health, and rahu in 9th ruining fortune. Whenever chandra or lagna lord goes into 8th house poverty will be experienced, and this combination is termed as Dur Yoga. Further Mars and Rahu in trines is another combination for poverty, and only Shani can stop it. Apart from chanting Mritunyaja Mantra, You have to do it 8000 times, which means 2 times daily starting from Saturday (day of your Lagna Lord), for 40 days will bring health releif (see Prashna Marga), I would recommend you to listen or chant if there is possibility Shri Rudra, to ehnance the power of saturn to ruin the combination of Mars in 5th and Rahu in 9th. These two grahas are sadharmi or share the destiny with Lagna, so it is not nice to have your destiny shared with mars and Rahu. These are the causes of your experiences. Your husband is very spiritual person due to Guru in 7th house as atmakarak, and Surya exalted with Ketu and Budh. However, Ketu Surya is terrible eclipse combination making your husband life difficult and painful. If you have any questions, related to this be free to ask, and we may continue, where I will explain why this shani dasha is not good for you.. Best wishes and take care Zoran Boone wrote: Dear Wendy:I do believe Sten's asc. is Leo. He is surrounded by references to kings,his adopted parents kept his Swedish middle name Hokan as he was named afterthe king. He has a lion like expression and glows radiantly at times. Not alot of self confidence though, doesn't do well when not appreciated.Pitta/Vata type with a lot of heat coming off of him. He appears to look redsometimes. His career is in construction and he was always in charge in someway. I usually have a subordinate roll in the relationship. He has geneticdefects in his appearance I attributed that to Ketu in the first house. Ithought Saturn in the second house was causing him to have to work hard formoney. So some of the indications of why I think so. He was adopted byAmerican parents, his Swedish parents could not keep him, and he was raisedin a compound in Saudi Arabia before his American parents retired to thewest coast in the States.RE: M.S. I am done with the early stages but I have had results stoppinginflammation. Inability to have had it diagnosed probably changed the courseof my life. I know about Ayurveda, Vedic Astrology and Vedic Sciencedirectly from trying to deal with recurrent health problems. I might nothave been looking.Thank you again.Lydia-"Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas (AT) jyotishvidya (DOT) com><gjlist>Saturday, June 28, 2003 1:50 PMRe: [GJ] To Be or not To Be Dear Lydia,Yes indeed the Blue Sapphire (due to aspect on Venus and 7th house) issomething you should be cautious about. If your stone is not authentic"jyotish quality" it can do more harm than good, so please do be careful in this regard. You're absolutely correct about the white sapphire...it's good for Venus and (if the quality's good) can be of great benefit, as candiamond too of course as YogaKaraka Venus suffers from being combusteclipsed Sun. An option also that may bring some relief for you is to give(in charity) the things related to Ketu. This doesn't have to be any bigoutlay...small things that you probably already have. Certain daily rituals are also helpful in alleviating Ketu affliction.You mentioned (I think) something about the difficulties you faced with the medical profession's inability to diagnose you properly in early stagesbefore the full onset of your disease. You might like to consider thesignificance of 6th lord Moon in 8th house. 6th we know signifies themedical profession and 8th, of course, shows chronic illness. I think MS, as with many other illnesses, responds better if diagnosed properly in theearly stages...just something to think about perhaps.PS: I had a quick look at your husband's chart and wonder if it's at allpossible his lagna might be Virgo?(time to put this computer to bed, way past bedtime)Best Wishes,Wendyhttp://JyotishVidya.comPlease send queries to list -not to me personally.------------------------------ "Boone" <olboone (AT) megalink (DOT) net><gjlist>Sunday, June 29, 2003 1:12 AMRe: [GJ] To Be or not To Be Thank you Wendy,Yes I found the Mahamrityunajaya Mantra in my astrology course material and I have a tape to hear the pronounciation. I do chant this mantra but notregularly. You are correct this helps. The mantra for the Sri Yantra helps especially for herbs. I was not able to wear the blue sapphire I purchased possibly because of wrong timing or it was irradiated. I love looking at it, to me the color is beautiful. I do wear a large white sapphire and I notice when I'm not wearing it. I'm keeping a file of these chart readings when I'm at the computer I'll go over them to understand better the interpretations you have provided. What is the color for the yantra of Shiva the Rudra and the mahamrityunjaya mantra? I really appreciate the time you have taken to write about this.Lydia Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo , send an email to: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comY'>http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo , send an email to: gjlist-http://www.goravani.com Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2003 Report Share Posted June 30, 2003 Dear Zoran, You've provided quite a bit of information, thank you for taking the time in doing so. Quite a bit of very good information has been provided to me by the list members, both in discussion and to me directly and I am grateful. Thank you, Lydia - Zoran Radosavljevic gjlist Sunday, June 29, 2003 8:43 PM Re: [GJ] To Be or not To Be Om Namo Narayanaya,Dear Lydia,I've seen your chart. Though, I always doubt navamsa accuracy, I can realy on standard techniques to at leastsomehow, try to help you understand these problems.You were born under the kumba lagna with Shani in 10th house in Vrischika (Insect Sign) which is badsince Shani is in great enemy sign and Vakra.(retrograde). It has tremondous strength to manifest all hissignifications which are mostly bad. Shani is near Mritybhaga degree, it is in Papa Kartary yoga of Rahu,and in such cases when Lagnesh is in insect sign (scorpio) and retrograde, health problems are sure, longand painful. The strength given by retrogression has only given you indurance. This retrograde Shani makeshimself the most improtant graha in the chart, leading your destiny. The rule is: RETROGRADE grahas havetremendous Chesta Bala (see Parashara calculations) are act like Independent SUNS, so tend to expressthe most important areas in your life. Atmakarak Guru is further retrograde, which means that Spirituality both in you and your husband (guru is in 7th) will be leading force in your life. Unfortunately, Budha is subhapati,or chandra dispositor making the 8th house highly important in your life(Budha retrograde). You have two marana karaka sthans,such as Chandra in 8th, ruining 6th house of health, and rahu in 9th ruining fortune. Whenever chandra or lagna lordgoes into 8th house poverty will be experienced, and this combination is termed as Dur Yoga. Further Mars andRahu in trines is another combination for poverty, and only Shani can stop it. Apart from chanting Mritunyaja Mantra,You have to do it 8000 times, which means 2 times daily starting from Saturday (day of your Lagna Lord), for 40 dayswill bring health releif (see Prashna Marga), I would recommend you to listen or chant if there is possibility Shri Rudra,to ehnance the power of saturn to ruin the combination of Mars in 5th and Rahu in 9th. These two grahas are sadharmior share the destiny with Lagna, so it is not nice to have your destiny shared with mars and Rahu. These are the causesof your experiences. Your husband is very spiritual person due to Guru in 7th house as atmakarak, and Surya exalted with Ketuand Budh. However, Ketu Surya is terrible eclipse combination making your husband life difficult and painful.If you have any questions, related to this be free to ask, and we may continue, where I will explain why this shani dasha is notgood for you..Best wishes and take careZoranBoone wrote: Dear Wendy:I do believe Sten's asc. is Leo. He is surrounded by references to kings,his adopted parents kept his Swedish middle name Hokan as he was named afterthe king. He has a lion like expression and glows radiantly at times. Not alot of self confidence though, doesn't do well when not appreciated.Pitta/Vata type with a lot of heat coming off of him. He appears to look redsometimes. His career is in construction and he was always in charge in someway. I usually have a subordinate roll in the relationship. He has geneticdefects in his appearance I attributed that to Ketu in the first house. Ithought Saturn in the second house was causing him to have to work hard formoney. So some of the indications of why I think so. He was adopted byAmerican parents, his Swedish parents could not keep him, and he was raisedin a compound in Saudi Arabia before his American parents retired to thewest coast in the States.RE: M.S. I am done with the early stages but I have had results stoppinginflammation. Inability to have had it diagnosed probably changed the courseof my life. I know about Ayurveda, Vedic Astrology and Vedic Sciencedirectly from trying to deal with recurrent health problems. I might nothave been looking.Thank you again.Lydia-"Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas (AT) jyotishvidya (DOT) com><gjlist>Saturday, June 28, 2003 1:50 PMRe: [GJ] To Be or not To Be Dear Lydia,Yes indeed the Blue Sapphire (due to aspect on Venus and 7th house) issomething you should be cautious about. If your stone is not authentic"jyotish quality" it can do more harm than good, so please do be carefulin this regard. You're absolutely correct about the white sapphire...it'sgood for Venus and (if the quality's good) can be of great benefit, as candiamond too of course as YogaKaraka Venus suffers from being combusteclipsed Sun. An option also that may bring some relief for you is to give(in charity) the things related to Ketu. This doesn't have to be any bigoutlay...small things that you probably already have. Certain dailyrituals are also helpful in alleviating Ketu affliction.You mentioned (I think) something about the difficulties you faced withthe medical profession's inability to diagnose you properly in early stagesbefore the full onset of your disease. You might like to consider thesignificance of 6th lord Moon in 8th house. 6th we know signifies themedical profession and 8th, of course, shows chronic illness. I think MS,as with many other illnesses, responds better if diagnosed properly in theearly stages...just something to think about perhaps.PS: I had a quick look at your husband's chart and wonder if it's at allpossible his lagna might be Virgo?(time to put this computer to bed, way past bedtime)Best Wishes,Wendyhttp://JyotishVidya.comPlease send queries to list -not to me personally.------------------------------ "Boone" <olboone (AT) megalink (DOT) net><gjlist>Sunday, June 29, 2003 1:12 AMRe: [GJ] To Be or not To Be Thank you Wendy,Yes I found the Mahamrityunajaya Mantra in my astrology course materialand I have a tape to hear the pronounciation. I do chant this mantra but notregularly. You are correct this helps. The mantra for the Sri Yantrahelps especially for herbs. I was not able to wear the blue sapphire Ipurchased possibly because of wrong timing or it was irradiated. I love looking atit, to me the color is beautiful. I do wear a large white sapphire and Inotice when I'm not wearing it. I'm keeping a file of these chart readings whenI'm at the computer I'll go over them to understand better theinterpretations you have provided. What is the color for the yantra of Shiva the Rudraand the mahamrityunjaya mantra? I really appreciate the time you have takento write about this.LydiaOm Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo , send an email to: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comY'>http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.com Your use of is subject to Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comY'>http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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