Guest guest Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 Druid/Brahmin Basic Truths to nay ever fore get, so as to stay Say-n by the Div(ya)vine My ancestors speak to me from they e¹r graves of deva-voted passion, now two millenia retired. Although man may have many gods, the great wheel of time is one God that all bodily lives will bow to for sure always. Destiny is for sure, a God that works always, everywhere. Hear fore the Goddess of Nature is called Fortuna by Roaming mans, because they wait for her to give to them and pray for goods of this world. We all name the Goddess differently, for to our various visions she has many aspects from which our lusts pick a few. Sky Father and Earth Mother are always true, only our perception sometimes sees them and sometimes does not, causing the fluctuations in our mood. When we all ways see them, we bee come honey comb one with them all ways. If you eat honey, it gives you energy, if you keep it in a jar for a long time and then eat it, it will make you drunk and take away energy. Thus, greed is it¹s own lesson giver, for as always, the duality of all things will teach us not to lust. Destiny teaches us detachment. Detachment is sanity. Our consciousness is the symptom of the presence of our selves, which is the one but split many soul. The minds reflection of the world, or our conception of life, is driven by fate, is connected with the body, and is therefore temporary. It is only real so long as it is totally based on the truth, which for most people, it usually is definitely not. So usually the mind is our enemy, and is ³off the mark², and is wrong, and is torturing our selves¹f. Life is a prison sent hence in many ways. We are forcept¹d to stay in our abodies for a long time, and they are ass signed an ass work plan which is not please ! ing usually. When we give up seeing life as ow!urs, then time see-says to exist, and this body seems to last a very short time, because time see said to exist a long time age¹oh. Life has both good and bad auto-machine-ally. It is not caused by our toiling, which is just part of the whole pict sure. It all just isis, and we should be de-tacked. The purpose of life is the learning de-yearning that we get from it. The deyearning learning is progressive from life to life, or in other words, carries forward, like a scent attached to the soul, like a subtle dressing on the soul, it can be called the sub-con-science, or ³under-truth² or the subtle body, under aware, and it drives the external body and life onwards, towards more (hair) due lessons which are perfect for where-ever we are at-(tacked). The intellect that has found the truth, like a cat, sees that all is purr-fect all ways. The reason cat¹s eyes shine at night is because they are in liten kitten. Imperfection and trouble are symptoms of desire ("dessert attire") alone, and desire is an illusory God that will lead you ash-tray (dessert like). Your desire (dessert sire) is not God to anyone but you. It is therefore false. All have a different desire, a different God leading them through they ever mental dessert, and such Gods of matter are seen in the Sunlight of Day alone, not the night of truth, not the darkness of truth, and the Sun is a burning soul caught in illusion, so all that is derived from it¹s light is illusion. Detackment leads to power and freedom, which attracts everyone and everything. Detachment therefore brings fortune. Attachment brings poverty. Such is the nature of lusting in this world, it brings you the world not, whereas the lustless own the world completely. These truths are known by Brahmins and Druids. Those who preach lust are not Brahmins nor Druids. Lust makes you bad, because it makes you go odd, which puts a space in the good. Models, false advertisers, posers, all such persons who preach lust by their actions are neither Brahmins nor Druids and cause pain to everyone who pays attention to them. Prostitues deliver, and are honest, whereas strippers only tease, thus dis honesty. Both have no patrons when only Brahmins and Druids are present. The world of shimmer and glimmer is based on the false light of the Sun, which is actually a soul burning in repulsion for the truth of the darkness of this prison, thus, what is lit by illusion is also illusion. What lives in surrender to the truth of the darkness of this world is true alone. We are eternal, and one, though many, like a school of fish caught in flesh bodies in a dark sea lit by one who is averse to the truth of this world, and who will burn himself out therefore in time, which kills all who fight for life in this world. Time is therefore God, the wheel of time, the destiny of death for all, is God. The source of this prison is the idea of self as separate from the rest of it¹s selves. The wise do not hate nor fear death, for to fear or hate death would be the height of folly for anyone who can think at all. Just as to change and punish the bad amongst us we put them to prison, so to change and punish ourselves we have entered this huge universal prison to do penence for our stupid idea of independence. Indepence equals "in deep penence" or "deep in a penitencery". If you can believe that there is an eternal God above, how come you cannot believe that that is you, punishing yourself for having a really dumb idea, and proving to yourself that you can fight your way out of it with patience, tolerance, knowledge and so forth? The Roman road is a stone sword shoved through the heart of the land. Such disregard for nature has flowed forth from this fallen empire of the past, which is the model upon which America is based, and the pattern continues today. For Ceasar thought "I shall kill Celts", and Celts sacrificed themselves, so that they would spread amore in the future. Our Verki road round this stupid "Sees her" and now the sacrifice shall pay off. Now that "Brittany Spears" is seen by all, so the spears which killed our Briton brothers shall turn around and attack the killers of the Celtic soul, the materialists, who are enemies of the truth of the eternal soul. This is all we playing with us, testing ourselves, and we shall pass the test, for there is no "I" in bodies, neither Roman nor Celt, only a play of truths, and the good guy always wins, even the Roiming mans know it, and are made glad thereby in their heart of hearts. Those who would seek to perfect material life to their liking are illusioned, and are the enemies of the soul, and of the wise, and the hearers of the wise. The motivations of the followers of the wise are always questionable, until they themselves are wise and follow nobody in particular anymore, except their destiny and the truth which belongs to anyone who wishes to own it by not trying to destroy it. The truth is like a cat, if you take care of it and don¹t try to possess it, it will stay with you. A Brahmin or Druid is a soul part which sees truth actually, and here fore that part will leave assemblies where lies reign supreme, but they do not reject the soul parts who stay there, for they leave to take care of themselves, not to disavow unity with those who stay. In other words, cats and dogs live separately, but cats do not hate dogs, but dogs cannot understand themselves or cats. (The preference for cats is only a joke, not a truth, purr hap(en)s) As said by Sri Krishna in his Gita, so it is said by Druids of yore, that the Supreme is enternally situated in acts of sacrifice. We do not die, rather, we sacrifice, to live again, we die to live, eternally. This is the unbroken broken circle, the repeating curve, the reason for the spinning, the pi of the Greeks, the Triskal of the Gauls, and the need of the Roaming Mans, for 3 times 3 is nine, times 3 again is twenty seven, thus the unresolvable spinning truth of three is found in the cycle of the Moon, which is reflective, not generative, and is contrary to the spin of those aligned with the burning spirit, thus we Gails count days by nights, and our week is 9, and our month 27, and we always live in heaven, and have nowhere to go, thus we are not Roaming mans, casting swords of stone through the heart of the land. The lingo of the engles is fine speaking for me, for in their fineness they give finess to the angles this gails speaking. There lay nothing herein I cannot defend, neither insanity nor joke do I pretend, for if a part escapes you then you haven't the know, to understand it nor perceive it's glow. copy, right? roik mach-ai (called "leading son of the fire clann" by his father, and what need has he to reject this naming, for neither high nor low sounding naming does he hear, only toil and struggle are to be found here, and especially a seventh son, a 3 plus a 4, born of Tueton and Gail, to join their hands, a life of strife, a maker of peace, thus it is not easy, to wear that mantle) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 OK, so nobody responded to my earlier post so far. How embarrassing. OK, so I'm going to give my own explanation of what it meant, verse by verse so to speak, for the in-lightenment of all who care to understand that not a word of it was random ramblings. > > Druid/Brahmin Basic Truths to nay ever fore get, so as to stay Say-n by the > Div(ya)vine The Druids (Priests of the Ancient Celts, and Brahmins, priests to Hindus, believe very similar things. I am descended from one and initiated into the other. I know both now. I am speaking of shared wisdom here. I am saying "fore get" in order to make you think about the meaning of forgetfulness. "Say-n" is another way of writing "sane" but alludes to that if you repeat about the Divine, you stay sane. Divya means divine in Sanskrit. Vines are thread like things that some plants grow, as in grape-vines. Often topics are called threads or vines. Divine is like combining "divya" and "vine", so I'm making that clear. It's a thread of divine topics. It's a "divya vine". > > My ancestors speak to me from they e¹r graves of deva-voted passion, now two > millenia retired. My ancestors are mixed, but I'm referring to the Celtic side. I am thinking of the Celts that fought for a Europe free from Rome, at around 50 BC. "They e'r" is a way of saying "their" derived from "they ever" using e'r as in old English, as a way of alluding to that they chose to die, rather than they were killed. If the graves of "they ever" then it more personlizes it, to me at least. Deva means God in Sanskrit. "Deva-voted" is my way of saying devoted, which is to allude to the link between the Gods approval of my ancestors devotion to truth. The Celts believed in both passion and devotion. By passion I mean action, not sexuality. Two millenia retired means it happened over two thousand years ago. Again, I am thinking of Verkingetorix and his failed cause of driving Julius Caesar out of Europe, which cost the entire Celtic or Gaulish civilization it's identity. It's an ancient cultural genocide that has captivated my attention. > > > > Although man may have many gods, the great wheel of time is one God that all > bodily lives will bow to for sure always. Destiny is for sure, a God that > works always, everywhere. I think this one is clear. Destiny, fate, karma, works on everyone always everwhere. The Celts worshipped the wheel of time and karma as the Hindus do. > > Hear fore the Goddess of Nature is called Fortuna by Roaming mans, because > they wait for her to give to them and pray for goods of this world. We all > name the Goddess differently, for to our various visions she has many aspects > from which our lusts pick a few. I could have said "therefore", but Hear fore says more. It says "hear me" which is a call to attention, to take note. And fore refers to both the past or future, depending. It's rather a way of saying "look yonder" at the thing I'm referring to. The Roman Goddess "Fortuna" is "The Goddess of Fortune". Roaming Mans is my way of saying "Romans", referring to the ancient Roman Armies that conquered Europe. They "roamed" into Europe, and took it over. That was there way- conquest and rule, tax and extract. They are not liked by those who prefer to like those whom they conquered, which was everyone in Europe basically, and in many other places too. "they wait for her to give to them and pray for goods of this world" is my way of saying that they pray for materialistic gain, which is not exactly the highest possible understanding or type of devotion. It's an insult I lay at their ancient feet. "she has many aspects from which our lusts pick a few" This is to say that we all name the Gods and Goddesses after our own understandings of them. Truly, we see what we want. That is a deep statement. If we say that we do not want the dreadful aspects of the Gods, we are kidding ourselves. We actually do want them to clean up what we know to be our messes, and our subconscious minds know this, and know that it takes the Gods/Goddesses "intensely destructive" sides to accomplish this. > > Sky Father and Earth Mother are always true, only our perception sometimes > sees them and sometimes does not, causing the fluctuations in our mood. When > we all ways see them, we bee come honey comb one with them all ways. I think this is clear except perhaps: "we bee come honey comb one with them all ways" This was just fun, that's all, colorful word play, nothing more. > > If you eat honey, it gives you energy, if you keep it in a jar for a long time > and then eat it, it will make you drunk and take away energy. Thus, greed is > it¹s own lesson giver, for as always, the duality of all things will teach us > not to lust. Storing food has been referred to as one of the downfalls of being human, as animals tend to not do it. It represents the archetypical function of greed and hoarding which is so easy for all of us to fall into. The Celts drank "Honey Mead" as their wine, which is an intoxicating beverage like grape wine, but made from honey. So I'm referring to the lust for Honey Mead which was prevelant in ancient Europe before Rome brought Grape Wine into the picture. This was to show that nature is perfect. It always knows what to do. Like in the case of Honey, if you store it a certain way, it ferments and makes Mead. This then makes you tired, as does any alchohol, whereas normally honey is full of energy, not sleep. So in this way, nature always knows how to balance our actions. This is what I am saying. > > Destiny teaches us detachment. Detachment is sanity. All our actions are part of our destiny. All roads lead to Rome, and all actions lead to fulfilling our destiny. Therefore, attachment is like being prey to the follys of what is already written, whereas detachment is like being the observer that you really are. This is in Gita, and it is common sense philosophically, especially once one learns Jyotish, which proves to us that destiny and fate are very real. > > Our consciousness is the symptom of the presence of our selves, which is the > one but split many soul. The minds reflection of the world, or our conception > of life, is driven by fate, is connected with the body, and is therefore > temporary. It is only real so long as it is totally based on the truth, which > for most people, it usually is definitely not. So usually the mind is our > enemy, and is ³off the mark², and is wrong, and is torturing our selves¹f. This is all in the Gita. The last word "selves'f" is a play to show that what we often refer to as the plurality of ourselves, is really one self, in one way of viewing, as we are all so similar. Remember, you are unique, just like everybody else. > > Life is a prison sent hence in many ways. We are forcept¹d to stay in our > abodies for a long time, and they are ass signed an ass work plan which is not > please ! ing usually. When we give up seeing life as ow!urs, then time > see-says to exist, and this body seems to last a very short time, because time > see said to exist a long time age¹oh. I thought "sent hence" would be an interesting way or rewrinting "sentence". "Forcept'd" is an interesting way of saying "forced" since it alludes to an unfcomfortable birth process. "Abodies" is a way of combining "abodes" and "bodies" into one, a nice word play. "Ass signed" is a way of saying "assigned", and it adds the extra twist of likening ourselves to donkees, or asses, the archetypical "forced-work" animal, which helps to make my point. "Please ! ing" is a way of pointing out that which is "pleasing" is that which we pray for, or say "please" for. It shows the "want" in the word "pleasing". "Ow!urs" is way of showing the "ouch" in the "ours/mine" conception of life. "See says" is a replacement for ceases... but adds extra meaning, showing that is was something seen ( a past tense word ) which is now being talked about, ie, we're talking about something we saw... "See said" is a replacement for ceased, and same thing as above more or less... just there to encourage more thought. Age'oh is a replacement for ago, to emphasize the aging portion of that word. Just to encourage more thought. > > Life has both good and bad auto-machine-ally. It is not caused by our toiling, > which is just part of the whole pict sure. It all just isis, and we should be > de-tacked. "Auto-machine-ally" is a word play to see if "automatically" can be seen another way by you, or me. Can we gleen more of the word this way? "Whole pict sure" is an idulgence. The "Picts" were a people of Northern Britain. Their blood affected Scotland and Ireland much. They are responsible actually for what we often call "Celtic Knots". It's really "Pictish Knots" for the most part. Anyway, it's my way of slipping their name into this. "Pict sure" replaces the word Picture. Isis is a way of saying "is", but brings in an Egyption Goddesses name. "De-tacked" is an interesting word play to more bring out the true meaning of "detached". We all relate to "thumb tacks", and I think seeing ourselves "thumb tacked" to the wall is a good metaphor here. > > The purpose of life is the learning de-yearning that we get from it. "De yearning" means "becoming free from wanting". It's basic. A word play on giving up lusting. > > The deyearning learning is progressive from life to life, or in other words, > carries forward, like a scent attached to the soul, like a subtle dressing on > the soul, it can be called the sub-con-science, or ³under-truth² or the subtle > body, under aware, and it drives the external body and life onwards, towards > more (hair) due lessons which are perfect for where-ever we are at-(tacked). I have a feeling given what I've said previously you can sort this one out. > > The intellect that has found the truth, like a cat, sees that all is purr-fect > all ways. > > The reason cat¹s eyes shine at night is because they are in liten kitten. The above two are both stupid cat praise and make small, old, known, points and are here just for fun. "In liten" is "enlightened". Nothing here is very serious. > > Imperfection and trouble are symptoms of desire ("dessert attire") alone, and > desire is an illusory God that will lead you ash-tray (dessert like). Your > desire (dessert sire) is not God to anyone but you. It is therefore false. All > have a different desire, a different God leading them through they ever mental > dessert, and such Gods of matter are seen in the Sunlight of Day alone, not > the night of truth, not the darkness of truth, and the Sun is a burning soul > caught in illusion, so all that is derived from it¹s light is illusion. To desire means to feel "I don't have that thing" which is a type of privation. We take the dessert as a metaphor for the ultimate place of privations, so, "dessert attire" means you are "wearing desire", or you are experiencing the same thing as dessert clothing- the feeling of lack, of want. "Ash tray" replaces "astray", as Ash Trays are dry, like the dessert, so it's a metaphor that slipped in nicely. "dessert sire" means "your master in the land of privations" and thus is another metaphor for desire. The bit about the sun, day and night, is too much for me to go into right now. I'm not the first to talk of night and day in the area of enlightenment. Krishna does it, as do many before me. > > These truths are known by Brahmins and Druids. Those who preach lust are not > Brahmins nor Druids. It's a dear effort of mine, to try to bring the word Druid out and up into everyone's heads. I'm trying to resurrect more and more, as are others, not just me, that Druids existed, and had a wealth of knowledge and a high philosophy. This is being done in an effort to bring many white people into the awareness that it IS INDEED their ancestral write to be spiritual, and that it's not that they were just "barbarians". There's a "soul loss" that has happened to white people long ago, which strips them of ties to their own spirituality as a people. Hence they make really dripping emotional disciples to other nations without thought, whether it be India, Jamaica, or something else...some of us, not just me, are trying to help the movement to bring back some of our own ancient spirituality, to heal that deep wound. This will lead to a more spiritualized world, which will be healthier for everyone. > > Lust makes you bad, because it makes you go odd, which puts a space in the > good. This is just me having fun. If you split "good" in the middle, with a space, it becomes "go od", so I'm just playing around here, kindof like "Swami Beyondananda" does often... > > Models, false advertisers, posers, all such persons who preach lust by their > actions are neither Brahmins nor Druids and cause pain to everyone who pays > attention to them. I gave alot my headspace in this life paying attention to the pretty girls of TV land and I resent that. It's my own fault, but I try to slip in a negative here and there where I can against the Madonnas and Britney Spears types of this world, who make a living on preaching the very wrong message, which furthers the lust factore in mens minds greatly. > > Prostitues deliver, and are honest, whereas strippers only tease, thus dis > honesty. Both have no patrons when only Brahmins and Druids are present. The > world of shimmer and glimmer is based on the false light of the Sun, which is > actually a soul burning in repulsion for the truth of the darkness of this > prison, thus, what is lit by illusion is also illusion. What lives in > surrender to the truth of the darkness of this world is true alone. This is actually good, not stupid. It's about how what this world really is, and what it's really for, is more to be learned from monks than TV. I'm trying to say that the world of TV say, is not real, but that this life is for something quite other than accumulation of worldly posessions, and lusting after youth and beauty. Thanks to "my shadow" for contributing heavily to this article.... Das > > We are eternal, and one, though many, like a school of fish caught in flesh > bodies in a dark sea lit by one who is averse to the truth of this world, and > who will burn himself out therefore in time, which kills all who fight for > life in this world. This is to make you think about "what is the Sun after all". If the whole universe is dark without Him, then who is He? Like that. > > Time is therefore God, the wheel of time, the destiny of death for all, is > God. > > The source of this prison is the idea of self as separate from the rest of > it¹s selves. > > The wise do not hate nor fear death, for to fear or hate death would be the > height of folly for anyone who can think at all. I think I need not speak much here. > > Just as to change and punish the bad amongst us we put them to prison, so to > change and punish ourselves we have entered this huge universal prison to do > penence for our stupid idea of independence. Indepence equals "in deep > penence" or "deep in a penitencery". Word plays, which I think are clear, to aid in contemplation of the meaning of penence and independence from God. > > If you can believe that there is an eternal God above, how come you cannot > believe that that is you, punishing yourself for having a really dumb idea, > and proving to yourself that you can fight your way out of it with patience, > tolerance, knowledge and so forth? Just food for thought. A taste of Sankar from me. Yep, that's right. Weird, a first, !!!! > > The Roman road is a stone sword shoved through the heart of the land. Such > disregard for nature has flowed forth from this fallen empire of the past, > which is the model upon which America is based, and the pattern continues > today. For Ceasar thought "I shall kill Celts", and Celts sacrificed > themselves, so that they would spread amore in the future. Our Verki road > round this stupid "Sees her" and now the sacrifice shall pay off. Now that > "Brittany Spears" is seen by all, so the spears which killed our Briton > brothers shall turn around and attack the killers of the Celtic soul, the > materialists, who are enemies of the truth of the eternal soul. This is all we > playing with us, testing ourselves, and we shall pass the test, for there is > no "I" in bodies, neither Roman nor Celt, only a play of truths, and the good > guy always wins, even the Roiming mans know it, and are made glad thereby in > their heart of hearts. The first sentence I ripped off from the movie "Druids". A great movie if you're a Celt-o-fanatic like me. This is a loaded paragraph. It may help to know that Verki refers to Vercingetorix, the Celtic prince who led the last battles against Caesar, but which failed. After that, Rome ruled without much resistence at all across France, Switzerland, etc... When he surrendered, Vercingetorix that is, he rode his horse around Caesars little throne a few times, which is Celtic belief is called "binding", like tieing a rope around something... it's speculation, but we all kindof just know that he was thinking that he was somehow also winning, also binding Caesar in some way, some contract. He was giving his life, and asking something in return. It's very speculative, and "new agey" of me, but I believe, that he was basically making sure that Romes then beginning full rule over Celtic Europe would somehow either fail, or go towards actually ultimately spreading Celtic beliefs, not Roman beliefs, after all, possibly after a long time. In my own beliefs, this is happening, as the great energy of the "Barbarians" he was conquering did lead, for example, to the creation of the internet...which I'm using tonite to spread Druidic thought... This was my thought when writing the above. > > Those who would seek to perfect material life to their liking are illusioned, > and are the enemies of the soul, and of the wise, and the hearers of the wise. > > The motivations of the followers of the wise are always questionable, until > they themselves are wise and follow nobody in particular anymore, except their > destiny and the truth which belongs to anyone who wishes to own it by not > trying to destroy it. > > The truth is like a cat, if you take care of it and don¹t try to possess it, > it will stay with you. > > A Brahmin or Druid is a soul part which sees truth actually, and here fore > that part will leave assemblies where lies reign supreme, but they do not > reject the soul parts who stay there, for they leave to take care of > themselves, not to disavow unity with those who stay. In other words, cats and > dogs live separately, but cats do not hate dogs, but dogs cannot understand > themselves or cats. (The preference for cats is only a joke, not a truth, > purr hap(en)s) > > As said by Sri Krishna in his Gita, so it is said by Druids of yore, that the > Supreme is enternally situated in acts of sacrifice. > > We do not die, rather, we sacrifice, to live again, we die to live, eternally. > This is the unbroken broken circle, the repeating curve, the reason for the > spinning, the pi of the Greeks, the Triskal of the Gauls, and the need of the > Roaming Mans, for 3 times 3 is nine, times 3 again is twenty seven, thus the > unresolvable spinning truth of three is found in the cycle of the Moon, which > is reflective, not generative, and is contrary to the spin of those aligned > with the burning spirit, thus we Gails count days by nights, and our week is > 9, and our month 27, and we always live in heaven, and have nowhere to go, > thus we are not Roaming mans, casting swords of stone through the heart of the > land. This I hope is clear. It's poetry, but loaded with meaning. 3, as a number, is profound in both Hinduism, Celtism, and Astrology, or Jyotish, because it is the basis of so much of Universal Truth. I hope you see that 3 to it's own power, 3*3*3 is 27, the number of Nakshatras, and close to the Moon's monthly cycle. Otherwise, I tell something that is true- the Celts counted days starting at Sundown, hence "fortnight" refers to "fourteen nights", or half a lunar month. They had weeks of 9 days, and a 3 week month of twenty seven days, and like other cultures, refered to Months as "moons". "Before the next Moon..." etc. Seeing divinely places one in heaven now, thus one has nowhere to go, and thus needs no roads, and thus does not lay them down everywhere, which is one of the first things Rome did in Europe- one of the first thing most armies do when conquering lands. "Conquest" means "seek to add". When you "seek to add" something to your posessions, you are a "con-quest-or". This implies lust, and greed, and killing, usually. > > The lingo of the engles is fine speaking for me, for in their fineness they > give finess to the angles this gails speaking. The "Engles", as in "Anglo Saxxon", was a Germanic tribe. Their language, or "Engle-ish" took over "Engle-Land" at one point. Although they were guest-invadors, their language became prevelant. Hence, often those of Celtic derivations (those who were the people of England before the Engles, the Saxxons, the Romans, etc.,) will often make clear that "English" is not actually their language. I am saying "English works for me", and in so doing, hopefully educating or sparking interest in history in others. The Anglo Saxxons thought often that the Celts were of a lower class. So naturally the Celtic mind will fight back against this mood. Later, the Anglo Saxxons became known as the "British", when in fact the "Briton" tribes that preceded them were tribes not of Engle or Saxxon or Roman derivation, but either Celtic or indigenous. The Engles and Saxxons were therefore "Finer" than the "aborigine" Celts etc., and Britain became gradually known for it's "finery" in many ways. This trait is not Celtic. For example, in Ireland, there is more a care about what you believe than how you act, for example. So anyway, I'm saying "their finery" is "working for me". I'm just playing games with words, trying to bring to the surface that not all is one in "white people". There are different histories, with different emphasis, and understanding this will help to bring about the spiritualization of the Western world, for the materialistic treck we've been on is based upon dislike for our more eathy tribal roots, which returning to a wee bit will help us greatly, I believe. When one understands what led to modern Europe, starting say 3000 years back, of which we do have records thanks to Greek and Roman historians, then one can see alot about where we went wrong. All of this is being alluded to in my above sentence. > > There lay nothing herein I cannot defend, neither insanity nor joke do I > pretend, for if a part escapes you then you haven't the know, to understand it > nor perceive it's glow. See what I mean now? > > copy, right? This means, "do you get it". > > roik mach-ai Richard becames Roik in Scotland, just a way of saying Rick. Mackay is really pronounced "Mach-Kai", in Scotland. So going with their Gaelic pronciation for now, as there are others, I've spelled out one of names that way. I do this really to show that we have ties to these histories, and these histories actually have made us and our societies what they are today. They are not "too old" nor "meaningless". They are recent, and meaningful. > > (called "leading son of the fire clann" by his father, and what need has he to > reject this naming, for neither high nor low sounding naming does he hear, > only toil and struggle are to be found here, and especially a seventh son, a 3 > plus a 4, born of Tueton and Gail, to join their hands, a life of strife, a > maker of peace, thus it is not easy, to wear that mantle) Richard refers to royalty, so I say "leading son" and Mac Kay refers to being of the "ai" or fire clann. Again, same thing. Just showing that we have histories which are tribal, and we had priests, and believed in reincarnation, and we had a whole culture, which has been descimated (I use a Latin root word on purpose). I am the seventh child, and a son, of my parents. Seven is 3 plus 4. The Celts used 3 everywhere, for it's relationship to nature, which was their altar, and the basis of their culture and faiths. 4 is more angular and masculine, and found more in Roman ways, and the ways of the Tuetonic tribes, from which the Schwabbin, Engles, Saxxons, and other Germanic tribes flow. 3 times 4 is twelve, thus the balance of life is found in the combining of masculinity and femininity, or the God and Goddess. My mother was Irish, and my Father basically Germanic. So I'm saying I have both. I'm saying that we have to find the merging of these two to help the world, and to help ourselves. As usual, I'm using my own life as an example. I am speaking in hidden ways originally, but now I hope I'm more clear. I have a few friends who know me here in this town, and we speak of "the 3 people" and the "4 people", or the "way of 3", etc. These refer to Goddess and God, Sky Father and Earth Mother, and their children cultures. It's not about judgement or racism, but understanding and truth, knowledge, and ultimately, celebrates the diversity. I do not believe that burrying the past and it's truths will help us. I do believe knowing it all leads to personal and global understanding. Only if the truth is out, can it help us. Peace. Wow, this was alot of typing. Out, Roik > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2003 Report Share Posted July 30, 2003 Thanks Das, I enjoy your writings, always, and this one is inspiring indeed. I like history of Kelts /some say kelt some Celt- why did you chose Celts? It nice piece of history, and you presented that in a poetic form. Thanks for clarifications, I needed some before. Please keep writing, Anna - "Das Goravani" <> "Das Goravani" <>; <gjlist>; <dasgoravaniswritings> Wednesday, July 30, 2003 12:21 AM [GJ] Re: Tootin/Gails Speaking Div(ya)vines > > > > OK, so nobody responded to my earlier post so far. How embarrassing. OK, so > I'm going to give my own explanation of what it meant, verse by verse so to > speak, for the in-lightenment of all who care to understand that not a word > of it was random ramblings. > > > > > > > Druid/Brahmin Basic Truths to nay ever fore get, so as to stay Say-n by the > > Div(ya)vine > > > The Druids (Priests of the Ancient Celts, and Brahmins, priests to Hindus, > believe very similar things. I am descended from one and initiated into the > other. I know both now. I am speaking of shared wisdom here. I am saying > "fore get" in order to make you think about the meaning of forgetfulness. > "Say-n" is another way of writing "sane" but alludes to that if you repeat > about the Divine, you stay sane. Divya means divine in Sanskrit. Vines are > thread like things that some plants grow, as in grape-vines. Often topics > are called threads or vines. Divine is like combining "divya" and "vine", so > I'm making that clear. It's a thread of divine topics. It's a "divya vine". > > > > > > > My ancestors speak to me from they e¹r graves of deva-voted passion, now two > > millenia retired. > > > My ancestors are mixed, but I'm referring to the Celtic side. I am thinking > of the Celts that fought for a Europe free from Rome, at around 50 BC. > > "They e'r" is a way of saying "their" derived from "they ever" using e'r as > in old English, as a way of alluding to that they chose to die, rather than > they were killed. If the graves of "they ever" then it more personlizes it, > to me at least. > > Deva means God in Sanskrit. "Deva-voted" is my way of saying devoted, which > is to allude to the link between the Gods approval of my ancestors devotion > to truth. The Celts believed in both passion and devotion. By passion I mean > action, not sexuality. Two millenia retired means it happened over two > thousand years ago. Again, I am thinking of Verkingetorix and his failed > cause of driving Julius Caesar out of Europe, which cost the entire Celtic > or Gaulish civilization it's identity. It's an ancient cultural genocide > that has captivated my attention. > > > > > > > > > Although man may have many gods, the great wheel of time is one God that all > > bodily lives will bow to for sure always. Destiny is for sure, a God that > > works always, everywhere. > > > I think this one is clear. Destiny, fate, karma, works on everyone always > everwhere. The Celts worshipped the wheel of time and karma as the Hindus > do. > > > > > > Hear fore the Goddess of Nature is called Fortuna by Roaming mans, because > > they wait for her to give to them and pray for goods of this world. We all > > name the Goddess differently, for to our various visions she has many aspects > > from which our lusts pick a few. > > > I could have said "therefore", but Hear fore says more. It says "hear me" > which is a call to attention, to take note. And fore refers to both the past > or future, depending. It's rather a way of saying "look yonder" at the thing > I'm referring to. > > The Roman Goddess "Fortuna" is "The Goddess of Fortune". > > Roaming Mans is my way of saying "Romans", referring to the ancient Roman > Armies that conquered Europe. They "roamed" into Europe, and took it over. > That was there way- conquest and rule, tax and extract. They are not liked > by those who prefer to like those whom they conquered, which was everyone in > Europe basically, and in many other places too. > > "they wait for her to give to them and pray for goods of this world" is my > way of saying that they pray for materialistic gain, which is not exactly > the highest possible understanding or type of devotion. It's an insult I lay > at their ancient feet. > > "she has many aspects from which our lusts pick a few" > > This is to say that we all name the Gods and Goddesses after our own > understandings of them. Truly, we see what we want. That is a deep > statement. If we say that we do not want the dreadful aspects of the Gods, > we are kidding ourselves. We actually do want them to clean up what we know > to be our messes, and our subconscious minds know this, and know that it > takes the Gods/Goddesses "intensely destructive" sides to accomplish this. > > > > > > > > Sky Father and Earth Mother are always true, only our perception sometimes > > sees them and sometimes does not, causing the fluctuations in our mood. When > > we all ways see them, we bee come honey comb one with them all ways. > > > I think this is clear except perhaps: > > "we bee come honey comb one with them all ways" > > This was just fun, that's all, colorful word play, nothing more. > > > > > > If you eat honey, it gives you energy, if you keep it in a jar for a long time > > and then eat it, it will make you drunk and take away energy. Thus, greed is > > it¹s own lesson giver, for as always, the duality of all things will teach us > > not to lust. > > > Storing food has been referred to as one of the downfalls of being human, as > animals tend to not do it. It represents the archetypical function of greed > and hoarding which is so easy for all of us to fall into. > > The Celts drank "Honey Mead" as their wine, which is an intoxicating > beverage like grape wine, but made from honey. So I'm referring to the lust > for Honey Mead which was prevelant in ancient Europe before Rome brought > Grape Wine into the picture. > > This was to show that nature is perfect. It always knows what to do. Like in > the case of Honey, if you store it a certain way, it ferments and makes > Mead. This then makes you tired, as does any alchohol, whereas normally > honey is full of energy, not sleep. So in this way, nature always knows how > to balance our actions. This is what I am saying. > > > > > > > Destiny teaches us detachment. Detachment is sanity. > > All our actions are part of our destiny. All roads lead to Rome, and all > actions lead to fulfilling our destiny. Therefore, attachment is like being > prey to the follys of what is already written, whereas detachment is like > being the observer that you really are. This is in Gita, and it is common > sense philosophically, especially once one learns Jyotish, which proves to > us that destiny and fate are very real. > > > > > > > Our consciousness is the symptom of the presence of our selves, which is the > > one but split many soul. The minds reflection of the world, or our conception > > of life, is driven by fate, is connected with the body, and is therefore > > temporary. It is only real so long as it is totally based on the truth, which > > for most people, it usually is definitely not. So usually the mind is our > > enemy, and is ³off the mark², and is wrong, and is torturing our selves¹f. > > This is all in the Gita. The last word "selves'f" is a play to show that > what we often refer to as the plurality of ourselves, is really one self, in > one way of viewing, as we are all so similar. Remember, you are unique, just > like everybody else. > > > > > > > Life is a prison sent hence in many ways. We are forcept¹d to stay in our > > abodies for a long time, and they are ass signed an ass work plan which is not > > please ! ing usually. When we give up seeing life as ow!urs, then time > > see-says to exist, and this body seems to last a very short time, because time > > see said to exist a long time age¹oh. > > > I thought "sent hence" would be an interesting way or rewrinting "sentence". > > "Forcept'd" is an interesting way of saying "forced" since it alludes to an > unfcomfortable birth process. > > "Abodies" is a way of combining "abodes" and "bodies" into one, a nice word > play. > > "Ass signed" is a way of saying "assigned", and it adds the extra twist of > likening ourselves to donkees, or asses, the archetypical "forced-work" > animal, which helps to make my point. > > "Please ! ing" is a way of pointing out that which is "pleasing" is that > which we pray for, or say "please" for. It shows the "want" in the word > "pleasing". > > "Ow!urs" is way of showing the "ouch" in the "ours/mine" conception of life. > > "See says" is a replacement for ceases... but adds extra meaning, showing > that is was something seen ( a past tense word ) which is now being talked > about, ie, we're talking about something we saw... > > "See said" is a replacement for ceased, and same thing as above more or > less... just there to encourage more thought. > > Age'oh is a replacement for ago, to emphasize the aging portion of that > word. Just to encourage more thought. > > > > > > > > > > Life has both good and bad auto-machine-ally. It is not caused by our toiling, > > which is just part of the whole pict sure. It all just isis, and we should be > > de-tacked. > > > "Auto-machine-ally" is a word play to see if "automatically" can be seen > another way by you, or me. Can we gleen more of the word this way? > > "Whole pict sure" is an idulgence. The "Picts" were a people of Northern > Britain. Their blood affected Scotland and Ireland much. They are > responsible actually for what we often call "Celtic Knots". It's really > "Pictish Knots" for the most part. Anyway, it's my way of slipping their > name into this. "Pict sure" replaces the word Picture. > > Isis is a way of saying "is", but brings in an Egyption Goddesses name. > > "De-tacked" is an interesting word play to more bring out the true meaning > of "detached". We all relate to "thumb tacks", and I think seeing ourselves > "thumb tacked" to the wall is a good metaphor here. > > > > > > The purpose of life is the learning de-yearning that we get from it. > > "De yearning" means "becoming free from wanting". It's basic. A word play on > giving up lusting. > > > > > The deyearning learning is progressive from life to life, or in other words, > > carries forward, like a scent attached to the soul, like a subtle dressing on > > the soul, it can be called the sub-con-science, or ³under-truth² or the subtle > > body, under aware, and it drives the external body and life onwards, towards > > more (hair) due lessons which are perfect for where-ever we are at-(tacked). > > I have a feeling given what I've said previously you can sort this one out. > > > > > > The intellect that has found the truth, like a cat, sees that all is purr-fect > > all ways. > > > > The reason cat¹s eyes shine at night is because they are in liten kitten. > > The above two are both stupid cat praise and make small, old, known, points > and are here just for fun. > > "In liten" is "enlightened". > > Nothing here is very serious. > > > > > > > Imperfection and trouble are symptoms of desire ("dessert attire") alone, and > > desire is an illusory God that will lead you ash-tray (dessert like). Your > > desire (dessert sire) is not God to anyone but you. It is therefore false. All > > have a different desire, a different God leading them through they ever mental > > dessert, and such Gods of matter are seen in the Sunlight of Day alone, not > > the night of truth, not the darkness of truth, and the Sun is a burning soul > > caught in illusion, so all that is derived from it¹s light is illusion. > > To desire means to feel "I don't have that thing" which is a type of > privation. We take the dessert as a metaphor for the ultimate place of > privations, so, "dessert attire" means you are "wearing desire", or you are > experiencing the same thing as dessert clothing- the feeling of lack, of > want. > > "Ash tray" replaces "astray", as Ash Trays are dry, like the dessert, so > it's a metaphor that slipped in nicely. > > "dessert sire" means "your master in the land of privations" and thus is > another metaphor for desire. > > The bit about the sun, day and night, is too much for me to go into right > now. I'm not the first to talk of night and day in the area of > enlightenment. Krishna does it, as do many before me. > > > > > > > These truths are known by Brahmins and Druids. Those who preach lust are not > > Brahmins nor Druids. > > It's a dear effort of mine, to try to bring the word Druid out and up into > everyone's heads. I'm trying to resurrect more and more, as are others, not > just me, that Druids existed, and had a wealth of knowledge and a high > philosophy. This is being done in an effort to bring many white people into > the awareness that it IS INDEED their ancestral write to be spiritual, and > that it's not that they were just "barbarians". There's a "soul loss" that > has happened to white people long ago, which strips them of ties to their > own spirituality as a people. Hence they make really dripping emotional > disciples to other nations without thought, whether it be India, Jamaica, or > something else...some of us, not just me, are trying to help the movement to > bring back some of our own ancient spirituality, to heal that deep wound. > This will lead to a more spiritualized world, which will be healthier for > everyone. > > > > > Lust makes you bad, because it makes you go odd, which puts a space in the > > good. > > This is just me having fun. If you split "good" in the middle, with a space, > it becomes "go od", so I'm just playing around here, kindof like "Swami > Beyondananda" does often... > > > > > > Models, false advertisers, posers, all such persons who preach lust by their > > actions are neither Brahmins nor Druids and cause pain to everyone who pays > > attention to them. > > I gave alot my headspace in this life paying attention to the pretty girls > of TV land and I resent that. It's my own fault, but I try to slip in a > negative here and there where I can against the Madonnas and Britney Spears > types of this world, who make a living on preaching the very wrong message, > which furthers the lust factore in mens minds greatly. > > > > > > Prostitues deliver, and are honest, whereas strippers only tease, thus dis > > honesty. Both have no patrons when only Brahmins and Druids are present. The > > world of shimmer and glimmer is based on the false light of the Sun, which is > > actually a soul burning in repulsion for the truth of the darkness of this > > prison, thus, what is lit by illusion is also illusion. What lives in > > surrender to the truth of the darkness of this world is true alone. > > This is actually good, not stupid. It's about how what this world really is, > and what it's really for, is more to be learned from monks than TV. I'm > trying to say that the world of TV say, is not real, but that this life is > for something quite other than accumulation of worldly posessions, and > lusting after youth and beauty. > > Thanks to "my shadow" for contributing heavily to this article.... Das > > > > > > We are eternal, and one, though many, like a school of fish caught in flesh > > bodies in a dark sea lit by one who is averse to the truth of this world, and > > who will burn himself out therefore in time, which kills all who fight for > > life in this world. > > This is to make you think about "what is the Sun after all". If the whole > universe is dark without Him, then who is He? Like that. > > > > > > Time is therefore God, the wheel of time, the destiny of death for all, is > > God. > > > > The source of this prison is the idea of self as separate from the rest of > > it¹s selves. > > > > The wise do not hate nor fear death, for to fear or hate death would be the > > height of folly for anyone who can think at all. > > I think I need not speak much here. > > > > > Just as to change and punish the bad amongst us we put them to prison, so to > > change and punish ourselves we have entered this huge universal prison to do > > penence for our stupid idea of independence. Indepence equals "in deep > > penence" or "deep in a penitencery". > > Word plays, which I think are clear, to aid in contemplation of the meaning > of penence and independence from God. > > > > > > > If you can believe that there is an eternal God above, how come you cannot > > believe that that is you, punishing yourself for having a really dumb idea, > > and proving to yourself that you can fight your way out of it with patience, > > tolerance, knowledge and so forth? > > Just food for thought. A taste of Sankar from me. Yep, that's right. Weird, > a first, !!!! > > > > > > The Roman road is a stone sword shoved through the heart of the land. Such > > disregard for nature has flowed forth from this fallen empire of the past, > > which is the model upon which America is based, and the pattern continues > > today. For Ceasar thought "I shall kill Celts", and Celts sacrificed > > themselves, so that they would spread amore in the future. Our Verki road > > round this stupid "Sees her" and now the sacrifice shall pay off. Now that > > "Brittany Spears" is seen by all, so the spears which killed our Briton > > brothers shall turn around and attack the killers of the Celtic soul, the > > materialists, who are enemies of the truth of the eternal soul. This is all we > > playing with us, testing ourselves, and we shall pass the test, for there is > > no "I" in bodies, neither Roman nor Celt, only a play of truths, and the good > > guy always wins, even the Roiming mans know it, and are made glad thereby in > > their heart of hearts. > > The first sentence I ripped off from the movie "Druids". A great movie if > you're a Celt-o-fanatic like me. > > This is a loaded paragraph. It may help to know that Verki refers to > Vercingetorix, the Celtic prince who led the last battles against Caesar, > but which failed. After that, Rome ruled without much resistence at all > across France, Switzerland, etc... > > When he surrendered, Vercingetorix that is, he rode his horse around Caesars > little throne a few times, which is Celtic belief is called "binding", like > tieing a rope around something... it's speculation, but we all kindof just > know that he was thinking that he was somehow also winning, also binding > Caesar in some way, some contract. He was giving his life, and asking > something in return. It's very speculative, and "new agey" of me, but I > believe, that he was basically making sure that Romes then beginning full > rule over Celtic Europe would somehow either fail, or go towards actually > ultimately spreading Celtic beliefs, not Roman beliefs, after all, possibly > after a long time. In my own beliefs, this is happening, as the great energy > of the "Barbarians" he was conquering did lead, for example, to the creation > of the internet...which I'm using tonite to spread Druidic thought... > > This was my thought when writing the above. > > > > > Those who would seek to perfect material life to their liking are illusioned, > > and are the enemies of the soul, and of the wise, and the hearers of the wise. > > > > The motivations of the followers of the wise are always questionable, until > > they themselves are wise and follow nobody in particular anymore, except their > > destiny and the truth which belongs to anyone who wishes to own it by not > > trying to destroy it. > > > > The truth is like a cat, if you take care of it and don¹t try to possess it, > > it will stay with you. > > > > A Brahmin or Druid is a soul part which sees truth actually, and here fore > > that part will leave assemblies where lies reign supreme, but they do not > > reject the soul parts who stay there, for they leave to take care of > > themselves, not to disavow unity with those who stay. In other words, cats and > > dogs live separately, but cats do not hate dogs, but dogs cannot understand > > themselves or cats. (The preference for cats is only a joke, not a truth, > > purr hap(en)s) > > > > As said by Sri Krishna in his Gita, so it is said by Druids of yore, that the > > Supreme is enternally situated in acts of sacrifice. > > > > We do not die, rather, we sacrifice, to live again, we die to live, eternally. > > This is the unbroken broken circle, the repeating curve, the reason for the > > spinning, the pi of the Greeks, the Triskal of the Gauls, and the need of the > > Roaming Mans, for 3 times 3 is nine, times 3 again is twenty seven, thus the > > unresolvable spinning truth of three is found in the cycle of the Moon, which > > is reflective, not generative, and is contrary to the spin of those aligned > > with the burning spirit, thus we Gails count days by nights, and our week is > > 9, and our month 27, and we always live in heaven, and have nowhere to go, > > thus we are not Roaming mans, casting swords of stone through the heart of the > > land. > > This I hope is clear. It's poetry, but loaded with meaning. 3, as a number, > is profound in both Hinduism, Celtism, and Astrology, or Jyotish, because it > is the basis of so much of Universal Truth. I hope you see that 3 to it's > own power, 3*3*3 is 27, the number of Nakshatras, and close to the Moon's > monthly cycle. > > Otherwise, I tell something that is true- the Celts counted days starting at > Sundown, hence "fortnight" refers to "fourteen nights", or half a lunar > month. > > They had weeks of 9 days, and a 3 week month of twenty seven days, and like > other cultures, refered to Months as "moons". "Before the next Moon..." etc. > > Seeing divinely places one in heaven now, thus one has nowhere to go, and > thus needs no roads, and thus does not lay them down everywhere, which is > one of the first things Rome did in Europe- one of the first thing most > armies do when conquering lands. > > "Conquest" means "seek to add". When you "seek to add" something to your > posessions, you are a "con-quest-or". This implies lust, and greed, and > killing, usually. > > > > > > The lingo of the engles is fine speaking for me, for in their fineness they > > give finess to the angles this gails speaking. > > The "Engles", as in "Anglo Saxxon", was a Germanic tribe. Their language, or > "Engle-ish" took over "Engle-Land" at one point. Although they were > guest-invadors, their language became prevelant. Hence, often those of > Celtic derivations (those who were the people of England before the Engles, > the Saxxons, the Romans, etc.,) will often make clear that "English" is not > actually their language. > > I am saying "English works for me", and in so doing, hopefully educating or > sparking interest in history in others. > > The Anglo Saxxons thought often that the Celts were of a lower class. So > naturally the Celtic mind will fight back against this mood. Later, the > Anglo Saxxons became known as the "British", when in fact the "Briton" > tribes that preceded them were tribes not of Engle or Saxxon or Roman > derivation, but either Celtic or indigenous. > > The Engles and Saxxons were therefore "Finer" than the "aborigine" Celts > etc., and Britain became gradually known for it's "finery" in many ways. > This trait is not Celtic. For example, in Ireland, there is more a care > about what you believe than how you act, for example. > > So anyway, I'm saying "their finery" is "working for me". I'm just playing > games with words, trying to bring to the surface that not all is one in > "white people". There are different histories, with different emphasis, and > understanding this will help to bring about the spiritualization of the > Western world, for the materialistic treck we've been on is based upon > dislike for our more eathy tribal roots, which returning to a wee bit will > help us greatly, I believe. > > When one understands what led to modern Europe, starting say 3000 years > back, of which we do have records thanks to Greek and Roman historians, then > one can see alot about where we went wrong. > > All of this is being alluded to in my above sentence. > > > > > > There lay nothing herein I cannot defend, neither insanity nor joke do I > > pretend, for if a part escapes you then you haven't the know, to understand it > > nor perceive it's glow. > > See what I mean now? > > > > > > copy, right? > > This means, "do you get it". > > > > > > roik mach-ai > > Richard becames Roik in Scotland, just a way of saying Rick. Mackay is > really pronounced "Mach-Kai", in Scotland. So going with their Gaelic > pronciation for now, as there are others, I've spelled out one of names that > way. I do this really to show that we have ties to these histories, and > these histories actually have made us and our societies what they are today. > They are not "too old" nor "meaningless". They are recent, and meaningful. > > > > > > (called "leading son of the fire clann" by his father, and what need has he to > > reject this naming, for neither high nor low sounding naming does he hear, > > only toil and struggle are to be found here, and especially a seventh son, a 3 > > plus a 4, born of Tueton and Gail, to join their hands, a life of strife, a > > maker of peace, thus it is not easy, to wear that mantle) > > Richard refers to royalty, so I say "leading son" and Mac Kay refers to > being of the "ai" or fire clann. Again, same thing. Just showing that we > have histories which are tribal, and we had priests, and believed in > reincarnation, and we had a whole culture, which has been descimated (I use > a Latin root word on purpose). > > I am the seventh child, and a son, of my parents. > > Seven is 3 plus 4. > > The Celts used 3 everywhere, for it's relationship to nature, which was > their altar, and the basis of their culture and faiths. > > 4 is more angular and masculine, and found more in Roman ways, and the ways > of the Tuetonic tribes, from which the Schwabbin, Engles, Saxxons, and other > Germanic tribes flow. 3 times 4 is twelve, thus the balance of life is found > in the combining of masculinity and femininity, or the God and Goddess. > > My mother was Irish, and my Father basically Germanic. So I'm saying I have > both. > > I'm saying that we have to find the merging of these two to help the world, > and to help ourselves. > > As usual, I'm using my own life as an example. > > I am speaking in hidden ways originally, but now I hope I'm more clear. > > I have a few friends who know me here in this town, and we speak of "the 3 > people" and the "4 people", or the "way of 3", etc. These refer to Goddess > and God, Sky Father and Earth Mother, and their children cultures. It's not > about judgement or racism, but understanding and truth, knowledge, and > ultimately, celebrates the diversity. > > I do not believe that burrying the past and it's truths will help us. I do > believe knowing it all leads to personal and global understanding. Only if > the truth is out, can it help us. > > Peace. > > Wow, this was alot of typing. > > Out, > > Roik > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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