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Druid/Brahmin Basic Truths to nay ever fore get, so as to stay Say-n by the

Div(ya)vine

 

My ancestors speak to me from they e¹r graves of deva-voted passion, now two

millenia retired.

 

 

 

Although man may have many gods, the great wheel of time is one God that all

bodily lives will bow to for sure always. Destiny is for sure, a God that

works always, everywhere.

 

Hear fore the Goddess of Nature is called Fortuna by Roaming mans, because

they wait for her to give to them and pray for goods of this world. We all

name the Goddess differently, for to our various visions she has many

aspects from which our lusts pick a few.

 

Sky Father and Earth Mother are always true, only our perception sometimes

sees them and sometimes does not, causing the fluctuations in our mood. When

we all ways see them, we bee come honey comb one with them all ways.

 

If you eat honey, it gives you energy, if you keep it in a jar for a long

time and then eat it, it will make you drunk and take away energy. Thus,

greed is it¹s own lesson giver, for as always, the duality of all things

will teach us not to lust.

 

Destiny teaches us detachment. Detachment is sanity.

 

Our consciousness is the symptom of the presence of our selves, which is the

one but split many soul. The minds reflection of the world, or our

conception of life, is driven by fate, is connected with the body, and is

therefore temporary. It is only real so long as it is totally based on the

truth, which for most people, it usually is definitely not. So usually the

mind is our enemy, and is ³off the mark², and is wrong, and is torturing our

selves¹f.

 

Life is a prison sent hence in many ways. We are forcept¹d to stay in our

abodies for a long time, and they are ass signed an ass work plan which is

not please ! ing usually. When we give up seeing life as ow!urs, then time

see-says to exist, and this body seems to last a very short time, because

time see said to exist a long time age¹oh.

 

Life has both good and bad auto-machine-ally. It is not caused by our

toiling, which is just part of the whole pict sure. It all just isis, and we

should be de-tacked.

 

The purpose of life is the learning de-yearning that we get from it.

 

The deyearning learning is progressive from life to life, or in other words,

carries forward, like a scent attached to the soul, like a subtle dressing

on the soul, it can be called the sub-con-science, or ³under-truth² or the

subtle body, under aware, and it drives the external body and life onwards,

towards more (hair) due lessons which are perfect for where-ever we are

at-(tacked).

 

The intellect that has found the truth, like a cat, sees that all is

purr-fect all ways.

 

The reason cat¹s eyes shine at night is because they are in liten kitten.

 

Imperfection and trouble are symptoms of desire ("dessert attire") alone,

and desire is an illusory God that will lead you ash-tray (dessert like).

Your desire (dessert sire) is not God to anyone but you. It is therefore

false. All have a different desire, a different God leading them through

they ever mental dessert, and such Gods of matter are seen in the Sunlight

of Day alone, not the night of truth, not the darkness of truth, and the Sun

is a burning soul caught in illusion, so all that is derived from it¹s light

is illusion.

 

Detackment leads to power and freedom, which attracts everyone and

everything. Detachment therefore brings fortune. Attachment brings poverty.

Such is the nature of lusting in this world, it brings you the world not,

whereas the lustless own the world completely.

 

These truths are known by Brahmins and Druids. Those who preach lust are not

Brahmins nor Druids.

 

Lust makes you bad, because it makes you go odd, which puts a space in the

good.

 

Models, false advertisers, posers, all such persons who preach lust by their

actions are neither Brahmins nor Druids and cause pain to everyone who pays

attention to them.

 

Prostitues deliver, and are honest, whereas strippers only tease, thus dis

honesty. Both have no patrons when only Brahmins and Druids are present. The

world of shimmer and glimmer is based on the false light of the Sun, which

is actually a soul burning in repulsion for the truth of the darkness of

this prison, thus, what is lit by illusion is also illusion. What lives in

surrender to the truth of the darkness of this world is true alone.

 

We are eternal, and one, though many, like a school of fish caught in flesh

bodies in a dark sea lit by one who is averse to the truth of this world,

and who will burn himself out therefore in time, which kills all who fight

for life in this world.

 

Time is therefore God, the wheel of time, the destiny of death for all, is

God.

 

The source of this prison is the idea of self as separate from the rest of

it¹s selves.

 

The wise do not hate nor fear death, for to fear or hate death would be the

height of folly for anyone who can think at all.

 

Just as to change and punish the bad amongst us we put them to prison, so to

change and punish ourselves we have entered this huge universal prison to do

penence for our stupid idea of independence. Indepence equals "in deep

penence" or "deep in a penitencery".

 

If you can believe that there is an eternal God above, how come you cannot

believe that that is you, punishing yourself for having a really dumb idea,

and proving to yourself that you can fight your way out of it with patience,

tolerance, knowledge and so forth?

 

The Roman road is a stone sword shoved through the heart of the land. Such

disregard for nature has flowed forth from this fallen empire of the past,

which is the model upon which America is based, and the pattern continues

today. For Ceasar thought "I shall kill Celts", and Celts sacrificed

themselves, so that they would spread amore in the future. Our Verki road

round this stupid "Sees her" and now the sacrifice shall pay off. Now that

"Brittany Spears" is seen by all, so the spears which killed our Briton

brothers shall turn around and attack the killers of the Celtic soul, the

materialists, who are enemies of the truth of the eternal soul. This is all

we playing with us, testing ourselves, and we shall pass the test, for there

is no "I" in bodies, neither Roman nor Celt, only a play of truths, and the

good guy always wins, even the Roiming mans know it, and are made glad

thereby in their heart of hearts.

 

Those who would seek to perfect material life to their liking are

illusioned, and are the enemies of the soul, and of the wise, and the

hearers of the wise.

 

The motivations of the followers of the wise are always questionable, until

they themselves are wise and follow nobody in particular anymore, except

their destiny and the truth which belongs to anyone who wishes to own it by

not trying to destroy it.

 

The truth is like a cat, if you take care of it and don¹t try to possess it,

it will stay with you.

 

A Brahmin or Druid is a soul part which sees truth actually, and here fore

that part will leave assemblies where lies reign supreme, but they do not

reject the soul parts who stay there, for they leave to take care of

themselves, not to disavow unity with those who stay. In other words, cats

and dogs live separately, but cats do not hate dogs, but dogs cannot

understand themselves or cats. (The preference for cats is only a joke, not

a truth, purr hap(en)s)

 

As said by Sri Krishna in his Gita, so it is said by Druids of yore, that

the Supreme is enternally situated in acts of sacrifice.

 

We do not die, rather, we sacrifice, to live again, we die to live,

eternally. This is the unbroken broken circle, the repeating curve, the

reason for the spinning, the pi of the Greeks, the Triskal of the Gauls, and

the need of the Roaming Mans, for 3 times 3 is nine, times 3 again is twenty

seven, thus the unresolvable spinning truth of three is found in the cycle

of the Moon, which is reflective, not generative, and is contrary to the

spin of those aligned with the burning spirit, thus we Gails count days by

nights, and our week is 9, and our month 27, and we always live in heaven,

and have nowhere to go, thus we are not Roaming mans, casting swords of

stone through the heart of the land.

 

The lingo of the engles is fine speaking for me, for in their fineness they

give finess to the angles this gails speaking.

 

There lay nothing herein I cannot defend, neither insanity nor joke do I

pretend, for if a part escapes you then you haven't the know, to understand

it nor perceive it's glow.

 

copy, right?

 

roik mach-ai

 

(called "leading son of the fire clann" by his father, and what need has he

to reject this naming, for neither high nor low sounding naming does he

hear, only toil and struggle are to be found here, and especially a seventh

son, a 3 plus a 4, born of Tueton and Gail, to join their hands, a life of

strife, a maker of peace, thus it is not easy, to wear that mantle)

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OK, so nobody responded to my earlier post so far. How embarrassing. OK, so

I'm going to give my own explanation of what it meant, verse by verse so to

speak, for the in-lightenment of all who care to understand that not a word

of it was random ramblings.

 

 

 

>

> Druid/Brahmin Basic Truths to nay ever fore get, so as to stay Say-n by the

> Div(ya)vine

 

 

The Druids (Priests of the Ancient Celts, and Brahmins, priests to Hindus,

believe very similar things. I am descended from one and initiated into the

other. I know both now. I am speaking of shared wisdom here. I am saying

"fore get" in order to make you think about the meaning of forgetfulness.

"Say-n" is another way of writing "sane" but alludes to that if you repeat

about the Divine, you stay sane. Divya means divine in Sanskrit. Vines are

thread like things that some plants grow, as in grape-vines. Often topics

are called threads or vines. Divine is like combining "divya" and "vine", so

I'm making that clear. It's a thread of divine topics. It's a "divya vine".

 

 

 

>

> My ancestors speak to me from they e¹r graves of deva-voted passion, now two

> millenia retired.

 

 

My ancestors are mixed, but I'm referring to the Celtic side. I am thinking

of the Celts that fought for a Europe free from Rome, at around 50 BC.

 

"They e'r" is a way of saying "their" derived from "they ever" using e'r as

in old English, as a way of alluding to that they chose to die, rather than

they were killed. If the graves of "they ever" then it more personlizes it,

to me at least.

 

Deva means God in Sanskrit. "Deva-voted" is my way of saying devoted, which

is to allude to the link between the Gods approval of my ancestors devotion

to truth. The Celts believed in both passion and devotion. By passion I mean

action, not sexuality. Two millenia retired means it happened over two

thousand years ago. Again, I am thinking of Verkingetorix and his failed

cause of driving Julius Caesar out of Europe, which cost the entire Celtic

or Gaulish civilization it's identity. It's an ancient cultural genocide

that has captivated my attention.

 

>

>

>

> Although man may have many gods, the great wheel of time is one God that all

> bodily lives will bow to for sure always. Destiny is for sure, a God that

> works always, everywhere.

 

 

I think this one is clear. Destiny, fate, karma, works on everyone always

everwhere. The Celts worshipped the wheel of time and karma as the Hindus

do.

 

 

>

> Hear fore the Goddess of Nature is called Fortuna by Roaming mans, because

> they wait for her to give to them and pray for goods of this world. We all

> name the Goddess differently, for to our various visions she has many aspects

> from which our lusts pick a few.

 

 

I could have said "therefore", but Hear fore says more. It says "hear me"

which is a call to attention, to take note. And fore refers to both the past

or future, depending. It's rather a way of saying "look yonder" at the thing

I'm referring to.

 

The Roman Goddess "Fortuna" is "The Goddess of Fortune".

 

Roaming Mans is my way of saying "Romans", referring to the ancient Roman

Armies that conquered Europe. They "roamed" into Europe, and took it over.

That was there way- conquest and rule, tax and extract. They are not liked

by those who prefer to like those whom they conquered, which was everyone in

Europe basically, and in many other places too.

 

"they wait for her to give to them and pray for goods of this world" is my

way of saying that they pray for materialistic gain, which is not exactly

the highest possible understanding or type of devotion. It's an insult I lay

at their ancient feet.

 

"she has many aspects from which our lusts pick a few"

 

This is to say that we all name the Gods and Goddesses after our own

understandings of them. Truly, we see what we want. That is a deep

statement. If we say that we do not want the dreadful aspects of the Gods,

we are kidding ourselves. We actually do want them to clean up what we know

to be our messes, and our subconscious minds know this, and know that it

takes the Gods/Goddesses "intensely destructive" sides to accomplish this.

 

 

 

 

>

> Sky Father and Earth Mother are always true, only our perception sometimes

> sees them and sometimes does not, causing the fluctuations in our mood. When

> we all ways see them, we bee come honey comb one with them all ways.

 

 

I think this is clear except perhaps:

 

"we bee come honey comb one with them all ways"

 

This was just fun, that's all, colorful word play, nothing more.

 

 

>

> If you eat honey, it gives you energy, if you keep it in a jar for a long time

> and then eat it, it will make you drunk and take away energy. Thus, greed is

> it¹s own lesson giver, for as always, the duality of all things will teach us

> not to lust.

 

 

Storing food has been referred to as one of the downfalls of being human, as

animals tend to not do it. It represents the archetypical function of greed

and hoarding which is so easy for all of us to fall into.

 

The Celts drank "Honey Mead" as their wine, which is an intoxicating

beverage like grape wine, but made from honey. So I'm referring to the lust

for Honey Mead which was prevelant in ancient Europe before Rome brought

Grape Wine into the picture.

 

This was to show that nature is perfect. It always knows what to do. Like in

the case of Honey, if you store it a certain way, it ferments and makes

Mead. This then makes you tired, as does any alchohol, whereas normally

honey is full of energy, not sleep. So in this way, nature always knows how

to balance our actions. This is what I am saying.

 

 

 

>

> Destiny teaches us detachment. Detachment is sanity.

 

All our actions are part of our destiny. All roads lead to Rome, and all

actions lead to fulfilling our destiny. Therefore, attachment is like being

prey to the follys of what is already written, whereas detachment is like

being the observer that you really are. This is in Gita, and it is common

sense philosophically, especially once one learns Jyotish, which proves to

us that destiny and fate are very real.

 

 

 

>

> Our consciousness is the symptom of the presence of our selves, which is the

> one but split many soul. The minds reflection of the world, or our conception

> of life, is driven by fate, is connected with the body, and is therefore

> temporary. It is only real so long as it is totally based on the truth, which

> for most people, it usually is definitely not. So usually the mind is our

> enemy, and is ³off the mark², and is wrong, and is torturing our selves¹f.

 

This is all in the Gita. The last word "selves'f" is a play to show that

what we often refer to as the plurality of ourselves, is really one self, in

one way of viewing, as we are all so similar. Remember, you are unique, just

like everybody else.

 

 

 

>

> Life is a prison sent hence in many ways. We are forcept¹d to stay in our

> abodies for a long time, and they are ass signed an ass work plan which is not

> please ! ing usually. When we give up seeing life as ow!urs, then time

> see-says to exist, and this body seems to last a very short time, because time

> see said to exist a long time age¹oh.

 

 

I thought "sent hence" would be an interesting way or rewrinting "sentence".

 

"Forcept'd" is an interesting way of saying "forced" since it alludes to an

unfcomfortable birth process.

 

"Abodies" is a way of combining "abodes" and "bodies" into one, a nice word

play.

 

"Ass signed" is a way of saying "assigned", and it adds the extra twist of

likening ourselves to donkees, or asses, the archetypical "forced-work"

animal, which helps to make my point.

 

"Please ! ing" is a way of pointing out that which is "pleasing" is that

which we pray for, or say "please" for. It shows the "want" in the word

"pleasing".

 

"Ow!urs" is way of showing the "ouch" in the "ours/mine" conception of life.

 

"See says" is a replacement for ceases... but adds extra meaning, showing

that is was something seen ( a past tense word ) which is now being talked

about, ie, we're talking about something we saw...

 

"See said" is a replacement for ceased, and same thing as above more or

less... just there to encourage more thought.

 

Age'oh is a replacement for ago, to emphasize the aging portion of that

word. Just to encourage more thought.

 

 

 

 

 

 

>

> Life has both good and bad auto-machine-ally. It is not caused by our toiling,

> which is just part of the whole pict sure. It all just isis, and we should be

> de-tacked.

 

 

"Auto-machine-ally" is a word play to see if "automatically" can be seen

another way by you, or me. Can we gleen more of the word this way?

 

"Whole pict sure" is an idulgence. The "Picts" were a people of Northern

Britain. Their blood affected Scotland and Ireland much. They are

responsible actually for what we often call "Celtic Knots". It's really

"Pictish Knots" for the most part. Anyway, it's my way of slipping their

name into this. "Pict sure" replaces the word Picture.

 

Isis is a way of saying "is", but brings in an Egyption Goddesses name.

 

"De-tacked" is an interesting word play to more bring out the true meaning

of "detached". We all relate to "thumb tacks", and I think seeing ourselves

"thumb tacked" to the wall is a good metaphor here.

 

 

>

> The purpose of life is the learning de-yearning that we get from it.

 

"De yearning" means "becoming free from wanting". It's basic. A word play on

giving up lusting.

 

>

> The deyearning learning is progressive from life to life, or in other words,

> carries forward, like a scent attached to the soul, like a subtle dressing on

> the soul, it can be called the sub-con-science, or ³under-truth² or the subtle

> body, under aware, and it drives the external body and life onwards, towards

> more (hair) due lessons which are perfect for where-ever we are at-(tacked).

 

I have a feeling given what I've said previously you can sort this one out.

 

 

>

> The intellect that has found the truth, like a cat, sees that all is purr-fect

> all ways.

>

> The reason cat¹s eyes shine at night is because they are in liten kitten.

 

The above two are both stupid cat praise and make small, old, known, points

and are here just for fun.

 

"In liten" is "enlightened".

 

Nothing here is very serious.

 

 

 

>

> Imperfection and trouble are symptoms of desire ("dessert attire") alone, and

> desire is an illusory God that will lead you ash-tray (dessert like). Your

> desire (dessert sire) is not God to anyone but you. It is therefore false. All

> have a different desire, a different God leading them through they ever mental

> dessert, and such Gods of matter are seen in the Sunlight of Day alone, not

> the night of truth, not the darkness of truth, and the Sun is a burning soul

> caught in illusion, so all that is derived from it¹s light is illusion.

 

To desire means to feel "I don't have that thing" which is a type of

privation. We take the dessert as a metaphor for the ultimate place of

privations, so, "dessert attire" means you are "wearing desire", or you are

experiencing the same thing as dessert clothing- the feeling of lack, of

want.

 

"Ash tray" replaces "astray", as Ash Trays are dry, like the dessert, so

it's a metaphor that slipped in nicely.

 

"dessert sire" means "your master in the land of privations" and thus is

another metaphor for desire.

 

The bit about the sun, day and night, is too much for me to go into right

now. I'm not the first to talk of night and day in the area of

enlightenment. Krishna does it, as do many before me.

 

 

 

>

> These truths are known by Brahmins and Druids. Those who preach lust are not

> Brahmins nor Druids.

 

It's a dear effort of mine, to try to bring the word Druid out and up into

everyone's heads. I'm trying to resurrect more and more, as are others, not

just me, that Druids existed, and had a wealth of knowledge and a high

philosophy. This is being done in an effort to bring many white people into

the awareness that it IS INDEED their ancestral write to be spiritual, and

that it's not that they were just "barbarians". There's a "soul loss" that

has happened to white people long ago, which strips them of ties to their

own spirituality as a people. Hence they make really dripping emotional

disciples to other nations without thought, whether it be India, Jamaica, or

something else...some of us, not just me, are trying to help the movement to

bring back some of our own ancient spirituality, to heal that deep wound.

This will lead to a more spiritualized world, which will be healthier for

everyone.

 

>

> Lust makes you bad, because it makes you go odd, which puts a space in the

> good.

 

This is just me having fun. If you split "good" in the middle, with a space,

it becomes "go od", so I'm just playing around here, kindof like "Swami

Beyondananda" does often...

 

 

>

> Models, false advertisers, posers, all such persons who preach lust by their

> actions are neither Brahmins nor Druids and cause pain to everyone who pays

> attention to them.

 

I gave alot my headspace in this life paying attention to the pretty girls

of TV land and I resent that. It's my own fault, but I try to slip in a

negative here and there where I can against the Madonnas and Britney Spears

types of this world, who make a living on preaching the very wrong message,

which furthers the lust factore in mens minds greatly.

 

 

>

> Prostitues deliver, and are honest, whereas strippers only tease, thus dis

> honesty. Both have no patrons when only Brahmins and Druids are present. The

> world of shimmer and glimmer is based on the false light of the Sun, which is

> actually a soul burning in repulsion for the truth of the darkness of this

> prison, thus, what is lit by illusion is also illusion. What lives in

> surrender to the truth of the darkness of this world is true alone.

 

This is actually good, not stupid. It's about how what this world really is,

and what it's really for, is more to be learned from monks than TV. I'm

trying to say that the world of TV say, is not real, but that this life is

for something quite other than accumulation of worldly posessions, and

lusting after youth and beauty.

 

Thanks to "my shadow" for contributing heavily to this article.... Das

 

 

>

> We are eternal, and one, though many, like a school of fish caught in flesh

> bodies in a dark sea lit by one who is averse to the truth of this world, and

> who will burn himself out therefore in time, which kills all who fight for

> life in this world.

 

This is to make you think about "what is the Sun after all". If the whole

universe is dark without Him, then who is He? Like that.

 

 

>

> Time is therefore God, the wheel of time, the destiny of death for all, is

> God.

>

> The source of this prison is the idea of self as separate from the rest of

> it¹s selves.

>

> The wise do not hate nor fear death, for to fear or hate death would be the

> height of folly for anyone who can think at all.

 

I think I need not speak much here.

 

>

> Just as to change and punish the bad amongst us we put them to prison, so to

> change and punish ourselves we have entered this huge universal prison to do

> penence for our stupid idea of independence. Indepence equals "in deep

> penence" or "deep in a penitencery".

 

Word plays, which I think are clear, to aid in contemplation of the meaning

of penence and independence from God.

 

 

 

>

> If you can believe that there is an eternal God above, how come you cannot

> believe that that is you, punishing yourself for having a really dumb idea,

> and proving to yourself that you can fight your way out of it with patience,

> tolerance, knowledge and so forth?

 

Just food for thought. A taste of Sankar from me. Yep, that's right. Weird,

a first, !!!!

 

 

>

> The Roman road is a stone sword shoved through the heart of the land. Such

> disregard for nature has flowed forth from this fallen empire of the past,

> which is the model upon which America is based, and the pattern continues

> today. For Ceasar thought "I shall kill Celts", and Celts sacrificed

> themselves, so that they would spread amore in the future. Our Verki road

> round this stupid "Sees her" and now the sacrifice shall pay off. Now that

> "Brittany Spears" is seen by all, so the spears which killed our Briton

> brothers shall turn around and attack the killers of the Celtic soul, the

> materialists, who are enemies of the truth of the eternal soul. This is all we

> playing with us, testing ourselves, and we shall pass the test, for there is

> no "I" in bodies, neither Roman nor Celt, only a play of truths, and the good

> guy always wins, even the Roiming mans know it, and are made glad thereby in

> their heart of hearts.

 

The first sentence I ripped off from the movie "Druids". A great movie if

you're a Celt-o-fanatic like me.

 

This is a loaded paragraph. It may help to know that Verki refers to

Vercingetorix, the Celtic prince who led the last battles against Caesar,

but which failed. After that, Rome ruled without much resistence at all

across France, Switzerland, etc...

 

When he surrendered, Vercingetorix that is, he rode his horse around Caesars

little throne a few times, which is Celtic belief is called "binding", like

tieing a rope around something... it's speculation, but we all kindof just

know that he was thinking that he was somehow also winning, also binding

Caesar in some way, some contract. He was giving his life, and asking

something in return. It's very speculative, and "new agey" of me, but I

believe, that he was basically making sure that Romes then beginning full

rule over Celtic Europe would somehow either fail, or go towards actually

ultimately spreading Celtic beliefs, not Roman beliefs, after all, possibly

after a long time. In my own beliefs, this is happening, as the great energy

of the "Barbarians" he was conquering did lead, for example, to the creation

of the internet...which I'm using tonite to spread Druidic thought...

 

This was my thought when writing the above.

 

>

> Those who would seek to perfect material life to their liking are illusioned,

> and are the enemies of the soul, and of the wise, and the hearers of the wise.

>

> The motivations of the followers of the wise are always questionable, until

> they themselves are wise and follow nobody in particular anymore, except their

> destiny and the truth which belongs to anyone who wishes to own it by not

> trying to destroy it.

>

> The truth is like a cat, if you take care of it and don¹t try to possess it,

> it will stay with you.

>

> A Brahmin or Druid is a soul part which sees truth actually, and here fore

> that part will leave assemblies where lies reign supreme, but they do not

> reject the soul parts who stay there, for they leave to take care of

> themselves, not to disavow unity with those who stay. In other words, cats and

> dogs live separately, but cats do not hate dogs, but dogs cannot understand

> themselves or cats. (The preference for cats is only a joke, not a truth,

> purr hap(en)s)

>

> As said by Sri Krishna in his Gita, so it is said by Druids of yore, that the

> Supreme is enternally situated in acts of sacrifice.

>

> We do not die, rather, we sacrifice, to live again, we die to live, eternally.

> This is the unbroken broken circle, the repeating curve, the reason for the

> spinning, the pi of the Greeks, the Triskal of the Gauls, and the need of the

> Roaming Mans, for 3 times 3 is nine, times 3 again is twenty seven, thus the

> unresolvable spinning truth of three is found in the cycle of the Moon, which

> is reflective, not generative, and is contrary to the spin of those aligned

> with the burning spirit, thus we Gails count days by nights, and our week is

> 9, and our month 27, and we always live in heaven, and have nowhere to go,

> thus we are not Roaming mans, casting swords of stone through the heart of the

> land.

 

This I hope is clear. It's poetry, but loaded with meaning. 3, as a number,

is profound in both Hinduism, Celtism, and Astrology, or Jyotish, because it

is the basis of so much of Universal Truth. I hope you see that 3 to it's

own power, 3*3*3 is 27, the number of Nakshatras, and close to the Moon's

monthly cycle.

 

Otherwise, I tell something that is true- the Celts counted days starting at

Sundown, hence "fortnight" refers to "fourteen nights", or half a lunar

month.

 

They had weeks of 9 days, and a 3 week month of twenty seven days, and like

other cultures, refered to Months as "moons". "Before the next Moon..." etc.

 

Seeing divinely places one in heaven now, thus one has nowhere to go, and

thus needs no roads, and thus does not lay them down everywhere, which is

one of the first things Rome did in Europe- one of the first thing most

armies do when conquering lands.

 

"Conquest" means "seek to add". When you "seek to add" something to your

posessions, you are a "con-quest-or". This implies lust, and greed, and

killing, usually.

 

 

>

> The lingo of the engles is fine speaking for me, for in their fineness they

> give finess to the angles this gails speaking.

 

The "Engles", as in "Anglo Saxxon", was a Germanic tribe. Their language, or

"Engle-ish" took over "Engle-Land" at one point. Although they were

guest-invadors, their language became prevelant. Hence, often those of

Celtic derivations (those who were the people of England before the Engles,

the Saxxons, the Romans, etc.,) will often make clear that "English" is not

actually their language.

 

I am saying "English works for me", and in so doing, hopefully educating or

sparking interest in history in others.

 

The Anglo Saxxons thought often that the Celts were of a lower class. So

naturally the Celtic mind will fight back against this mood. Later, the

Anglo Saxxons became known as the "British", when in fact the "Briton"

tribes that preceded them were tribes not of Engle or Saxxon or Roman

derivation, but either Celtic or indigenous.

 

The Engles and Saxxons were therefore "Finer" than the "aborigine" Celts

etc., and Britain became gradually known for it's "finery" in many ways.

This trait is not Celtic. For example, in Ireland, there is more a care

about what you believe than how you act, for example.

 

So anyway, I'm saying "their finery" is "working for me". I'm just playing

games with words, trying to bring to the surface that not all is one in

"white people". There are different histories, with different emphasis, and

understanding this will help to bring about the spiritualization of the

Western world, for the materialistic treck we've been on is based upon

dislike for our more eathy tribal roots, which returning to a wee bit will

help us greatly, I believe.

 

When one understands what led to modern Europe, starting say 3000 years

back, of which we do have records thanks to Greek and Roman historians, then

one can see alot about where we went wrong.

 

All of this is being alluded to in my above sentence.

 

 

>

> There lay nothing herein I cannot defend, neither insanity nor joke do I

> pretend, for if a part escapes you then you haven't the know, to understand it

> nor perceive it's glow.

 

See what I mean now?

 

 

>

> copy, right?

 

This means, "do you get it".

 

 

>

> roik mach-ai

 

Richard becames Roik in Scotland, just a way of saying Rick. Mackay is

really pronounced "Mach-Kai", in Scotland. So going with their Gaelic

pronciation for now, as there are others, I've spelled out one of names that

way. I do this really to show that we have ties to these histories, and

these histories actually have made us and our societies what they are today.

They are not "too old" nor "meaningless". They are recent, and meaningful.

 

 

>

> (called "leading son of the fire clann" by his father, and what need has he to

> reject this naming, for neither high nor low sounding naming does he hear,

> only toil and struggle are to be found here, and especially a seventh son, a 3

> plus a 4, born of Tueton and Gail, to join their hands, a life of strife, a

> maker of peace, thus it is not easy, to wear that mantle)

 

Richard refers to royalty, so I say "leading son" and Mac Kay refers to

being of the "ai" or fire clann. Again, same thing. Just showing that we

have histories which are tribal, and we had priests, and believed in

reincarnation, and we had a whole culture, which has been descimated (I use

a Latin root word on purpose).

 

I am the seventh child, and a son, of my parents.

 

Seven is 3 plus 4.

 

The Celts used 3 everywhere, for it's relationship to nature, which was

their altar, and the basis of their culture and faiths.

 

4 is more angular and masculine, and found more in Roman ways, and the ways

of the Tuetonic tribes, from which the Schwabbin, Engles, Saxxons, and other

Germanic tribes flow. 3 times 4 is twelve, thus the balance of life is found

in the combining of masculinity and femininity, or the God and Goddess.

 

My mother was Irish, and my Father basically Germanic. So I'm saying I have

both.

 

I'm saying that we have to find the merging of these two to help the world,

and to help ourselves.

 

As usual, I'm using my own life as an example.

 

I am speaking in hidden ways originally, but now I hope I'm more clear.

 

I have a few friends who know me here in this town, and we speak of "the 3

people" and the "4 people", or the "way of 3", etc. These refer to Goddess

and God, Sky Father and Earth Mother, and their children cultures. It's not

about judgement or racism, but understanding and truth, knowledge, and

ultimately, celebrates the diversity.

 

I do not believe that burrying the past and it's truths will help us. I do

believe knowing it all leads to personal and global understanding. Only if

the truth is out, can it help us.

 

Peace.

 

Wow, this was alot of typing.

 

Out,

 

Roik

 

 

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Thanks Das,

I enjoy your writings, always,

and this one is inspiring indeed.

 

I like history of Kelts /some say kelt some Celt- why did you chose Celts?

 

It nice piece of history, and you presented that in a poetic form.

Thanks for clarifications, I needed some before.

Please keep writing,

Anna

 

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[GJ] Re: Tootin/Gails Speaking Div(ya)vines

 

 

>

>

>

> OK, so nobody responded to my earlier post so far. How embarrassing. OK,

so

> I'm going to give my own explanation of what it meant, verse by verse so

to

> speak, for the in-lightenment of all who care to understand that not a

word

> of it was random ramblings.

>

>

>

> >

> > Druid/Brahmin Basic Truths to nay ever fore get, so as to stay Say-n by

the

> > Div(ya)vine

>

>

> The Druids (Priests of the Ancient Celts, and Brahmins, priests to Hindus,

> believe very similar things. I am descended from one and initiated into

the

> other. I know both now. I am speaking of shared wisdom here. I am saying

> "fore get" in order to make you think about the meaning of forgetfulness.

> "Say-n" is another way of writing "sane" but alludes to that if you repeat

> about the Divine, you stay sane. Divya means divine in Sanskrit. Vines

are

> thread like things that some plants grow, as in grape-vines. Often topics

> are called threads or vines. Divine is like combining "divya" and "vine",

so

> I'm making that clear. It's a thread of divine topics. It's a "divya

vine".

>

>

>

> >

> > My ancestors speak to me from they e¹r graves of deva-voted passion, now

two

> > millenia retired.

>

>

> My ancestors are mixed, but I'm referring to the Celtic side. I am

thinking

> of the Celts that fought for a Europe free from Rome, at around 50 BC.

>

> "They e'r" is a way of saying "their" derived from "they ever" using e'r

as

> in old English, as a way of alluding to that they chose to die, rather

than

> they were killed. If the graves of "they ever" then it more personlizes

it,

> to me at least.

>

> Deva means God in Sanskrit. "Deva-voted" is my way of saying devoted,

which

> is to allude to the link between the Gods approval of my ancestors

devotion

> to truth. The Celts believed in both passion and devotion. By passion I

mean

> action, not sexuality. Two millenia retired means it happened over two

> thousand years ago. Again, I am thinking of Verkingetorix and his failed

> cause of driving Julius Caesar out of Europe, which cost the entire Celtic

> or Gaulish civilization it's identity. It's an ancient cultural genocide

> that has captivated my attention.

>

> >

> >

> >

> > Although man may have many gods, the great wheel of time is one God that

all

> > bodily lives will bow to for sure always. Destiny is for sure, a God

that

> > works always, everywhere.

>

>

> I think this one is clear. Destiny, fate, karma, works on everyone always

> everwhere. The Celts worshipped the wheel of time and karma as the Hindus

> do.

>

>

> >

> > Hear fore the Goddess of Nature is called Fortuna by Roaming mans,

because

> > they wait for her to give to them and pray for goods of this world. We

all

> > name the Goddess differently, for to our various visions she has many

aspects

> > from which our lusts pick a few.

>

>

> I could have said "therefore", but Hear fore says more. It says "hear me"

> which is a call to attention, to take note. And fore refers to both the

past

> or future, depending. It's rather a way of saying "look yonder" at the

thing

> I'm referring to.

>

> The Roman Goddess "Fortuna" is "The Goddess of Fortune".

>

> Roaming Mans is my way of saying "Romans", referring to the ancient Roman

> Armies that conquered Europe. They "roamed" into Europe, and took it over.

> That was there way- conquest and rule, tax and extract. They are not liked

> by those who prefer to like those whom they conquered, which was everyone

in

> Europe basically, and in many other places too.

>

> "they wait for her to give to them and pray for goods of this world" is my

> way of saying that they pray for materialistic gain, which is not exactly

> the highest possible understanding or type of devotion. It's an insult I

lay

> at their ancient feet.

>

> "she has many aspects from which our lusts pick a few"

>

> This is to say that we all name the Gods and Goddesses after our own

> understandings of them. Truly, we see what we want. That is a deep

> statement. If we say that we do not want the dreadful aspects of the Gods,

> we are kidding ourselves. We actually do want them to clean up what we

know

> to be our messes, and our subconscious minds know this, and know that it

> takes the Gods/Goddesses "intensely destructive" sides to accomplish this.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Sky Father and Earth Mother are always true, only our perception

sometimes

> > sees them and sometimes does not, causing the fluctuations in our mood.

When

> > we all ways see them, we bee come honey comb one with them all ways.

>

>

> I think this is clear except perhaps:

>

> "we bee come honey comb one with them all ways"

>

> This was just fun, that's all, colorful word play, nothing more.

>

>

> >

> > If you eat honey, it gives you energy, if you keep it in a jar for a

long time

> > and then eat it, it will make you drunk and take away energy. Thus,

greed is

> > it¹s own lesson giver, for as always, the duality of all things will

teach us

> > not to lust.

>

>

> Storing food has been referred to as one of the downfalls of being human,

as

> animals tend to not do it. It represents the archetypical function of

greed

> and hoarding which is so easy for all of us to fall into.

>

> The Celts drank "Honey Mead" as their wine, which is an intoxicating

> beverage like grape wine, but made from honey. So I'm referring to the

lust

> for Honey Mead which was prevelant in ancient Europe before Rome brought

> Grape Wine into the picture.

>

> This was to show that nature is perfect. It always knows what to do. Like

in

> the case of Honey, if you store it a certain way, it ferments and makes

> Mead. This then makes you tired, as does any alchohol, whereas normally

> honey is full of energy, not sleep. So in this way, nature always knows

how

> to balance our actions. This is what I am saying.

>

>

>

> >

> > Destiny teaches us detachment. Detachment is sanity.

>

> All our actions are part of our destiny. All roads lead to Rome, and all

> actions lead to fulfilling our destiny. Therefore, attachment is like

being

> prey to the follys of what is already written, whereas detachment is like

> being the observer that you really are. This is in Gita, and it is common

> sense philosophically, especially once one learns Jyotish, which proves to

> us that destiny and fate are very real.

>

>

>

> >

> > Our consciousness is the symptom of the presence of our selves, which is

the

> > one but split many soul. The minds reflection of the world, or our

conception

> > of life, is driven by fate, is connected with the body, and is therefore

> > temporary. It is only real so long as it is totally based on the truth,

which

> > for most people, it usually is definitely not. So usually the mind is

our

> > enemy, and is ³off the mark², and is wrong, and is torturing our

selves¹f.

>

> This is all in the Gita. The last word "selves'f" is a play to show that

> what we often refer to as the plurality of ourselves, is really one self,

in

> one way of viewing, as we are all so similar. Remember, you are unique,

just

> like everybody else.

>

>

>

> >

> > Life is a prison sent hence in many ways. We are forcept¹d to stay in

our

> > abodies for a long time, and they are ass signed an ass work plan which

is not

> > please ! ing usually. When we give up seeing life as ow!urs, then time

> > see-says to exist, and this body seems to last a very short time,

because time

> > see said to exist a long time age¹oh.

>

>

> I thought "sent hence" would be an interesting way or rewrinting

"sentence".

>

> "Forcept'd" is an interesting way of saying "forced" since it alludes to

an

> unfcomfortable birth process.

>

> "Abodies" is a way of combining "abodes" and "bodies" into one, a nice

word

> play.

>

> "Ass signed" is a way of saying "assigned", and it adds the extra twist of

> likening ourselves to donkees, or asses, the archetypical "forced-work"

> animal, which helps to make my point.

>

> "Please ! ing" is a way of pointing out that which is "pleasing" is that

> which we pray for, or say "please" for. It shows the "want" in the word

> "pleasing".

>

> "Ow!urs" is way of showing the "ouch" in the "ours/mine" conception of

life.

>

> "See says" is a replacement for ceases... but adds extra meaning, showing

> that is was something seen ( a past tense word ) which is now being talked

> about, ie, we're talking about something we saw...

>

> "See said" is a replacement for ceased, and same thing as above more or

> less... just there to encourage more thought.

>

> Age'oh is a replacement for ago, to emphasize the aging portion of that

> word. Just to encourage more thought.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Life has both good and bad auto-machine-ally. It is not caused by our

toiling,

> > which is just part of the whole pict sure. It all just isis, and we

should be

> > de-tacked.

>

>

> "Auto-machine-ally" is a word play to see if "automatically" can be seen

> another way by you, or me. Can we gleen more of the word this way?

>

> "Whole pict sure" is an idulgence. The "Picts" were a people of Northern

> Britain. Their blood affected Scotland and Ireland much. They are

> responsible actually for what we often call "Celtic Knots". It's really

> "Pictish Knots" for the most part. Anyway, it's my way of slipping their

> name into this. "Pict sure" replaces the word Picture.

>

> Isis is a way of saying "is", but brings in an Egyption Goddesses name.

>

> "De-tacked" is an interesting word play to more bring out the true meaning

> of "detached". We all relate to "thumb tacks", and I think seeing

ourselves

> "thumb tacked" to the wall is a good metaphor here.

>

>

> >

> > The purpose of life is the learning de-yearning that we get from it.

>

> "De yearning" means "becoming free from wanting". It's basic. A word play

on

> giving up lusting.

>

> >

> > The deyearning learning is progressive from life to life, or in other

words,

> > carries forward, like a scent attached to the soul, like a subtle

dressing on

> > the soul, it can be called the sub-con-science, or ³under-truth² or the

subtle

> > body, under aware, and it drives the external body and life onwards,

towards

> > more (hair) due lessons which are perfect for where-ever we are

at-(tacked).

>

> I have a feeling given what I've said previously you can sort this one

out.

>

>

> >

> > The intellect that has found the truth, like a cat, sees that all is

purr-fect

> > all ways.

> >

> > The reason cat¹s eyes shine at night is because they are in liten

kitten.

>

> The above two are both stupid cat praise and make small, old, known,

points

> and are here just for fun.

>

> "In liten" is "enlightened".

>

> Nothing here is very serious.

>

>

>

> >

> > Imperfection and trouble are symptoms of desire ("dessert attire")

alone, and

> > desire is an illusory God that will lead you ash-tray (dessert like).

Your

> > desire (dessert sire) is not God to anyone but you. It is therefore

false. All

> > have a different desire, a different God leading them through they ever

mental

> > dessert, and such Gods of matter are seen in the Sunlight of Day alone,

not

> > the night of truth, not the darkness of truth, and the Sun is a burning

soul

> > caught in illusion, so all that is derived from it¹s light is illusion.

>

> To desire means to feel "I don't have that thing" which is a type of

> privation. We take the dessert as a metaphor for the ultimate place of

> privations, so, "dessert attire" means you are "wearing desire", or you

are

> experiencing the same thing as dessert clothing- the feeling of lack, of

> want.

>

> "Ash tray" replaces "astray", as Ash Trays are dry, like the dessert, so

> it's a metaphor that slipped in nicely.

>

> "dessert sire" means "your master in the land of privations" and thus is

> another metaphor for desire.

>

> The bit about the sun, day and night, is too much for me to go into right

> now. I'm not the first to talk of night and day in the area of

> enlightenment. Krishna does it, as do many before me.

>

>

>

> >

> > These truths are known by Brahmins and Druids. Those who preach lust are

not

> > Brahmins nor Druids.

>

> It's a dear effort of mine, to try to bring the word Druid out and up into

> everyone's heads. I'm trying to resurrect more and more, as are others,

not

> just me, that Druids existed, and had a wealth of knowledge and a high

> philosophy. This is being done in an effort to bring many white people

into

> the awareness that it IS INDEED their ancestral write to be spiritual, and

> that it's not that they were just "barbarians". There's a "soul loss" that

> has happened to white people long ago, which strips them of ties to their

> own spirituality as a people. Hence they make really dripping emotional

> disciples to other nations without thought, whether it be India, Jamaica,

or

> something else...some of us, not just me, are trying to help the movement

to

> bring back some of our own ancient spirituality, to heal that deep wound.

> This will lead to a more spiritualized world, which will be healthier for

> everyone.

>

> >

> > Lust makes you bad, because it makes you go odd, which puts a space in

the

> > good.

>

> This is just me having fun. If you split "good" in the middle, with a

space,

> it becomes "go od", so I'm just playing around here, kindof like "Swami

> Beyondananda" does often...

>

>

> >

> > Models, false advertisers, posers, all such persons who preach lust by

their

> > actions are neither Brahmins nor Druids and cause pain to everyone who

pays

> > attention to them.

>

> I gave alot my headspace in this life paying attention to the pretty girls

> of TV land and I resent that. It's my own fault, but I try to slip in a

> negative here and there where I can against the Madonnas and Britney

Spears

> types of this world, who make a living on preaching the very wrong

message,

> which furthers the lust factore in mens minds greatly.

>

>

> >

> > Prostitues deliver, and are honest, whereas strippers only tease, thus

dis

> > honesty. Both have no patrons when only Brahmins and Druids are present.

The

> > world of shimmer and glimmer is based on the false light of the Sun,

which is

> > actually a soul burning in repulsion for the truth of the darkness of

this

> > prison, thus, what is lit by illusion is also illusion. What lives in

> > surrender to the truth of the darkness of this world is true alone.

>

> This is actually good, not stupid. It's about how what this world really

is,

> and what it's really for, is more to be learned from monks than TV. I'm

> trying to say that the world of TV say, is not real, but that this life is

> for something quite other than accumulation of worldly posessions, and

> lusting after youth and beauty.

>

> Thanks to "my shadow" for contributing heavily to this article.... Das

>

>

> >

> > We are eternal, and one, though many, like a school of fish caught in

flesh

> > bodies in a dark sea lit by one who is averse to the truth of this

world, and

> > who will burn himself out therefore in time, which kills all who fight

for

> > life in this world.

>

> This is to make you think about "what is the Sun after all". If the whole

> universe is dark without Him, then who is He? Like that.

>

>

> >

> > Time is therefore God, the wheel of time, the destiny of death for all,

is

> > God.

> >

> > The source of this prison is the idea of self as separate from the rest

of

> > it¹s selves.

> >

> > The wise do not hate nor fear death, for to fear or hate death would be

the

> > height of folly for anyone who can think at all.

>

> I think I need not speak much here.

>

> >

> > Just as to change and punish the bad amongst us we put them to prison,

so to

> > change and punish ourselves we have entered this huge universal prison

to do

> > penence for our stupid idea of independence. Indepence equals "in deep

> > penence" or "deep in a penitencery".

>

> Word plays, which I think are clear, to aid in contemplation of the

meaning

> of penence and independence from God.

>

>

>

> >

> > If you can believe that there is an eternal God above, how come you

cannot

> > believe that that is you, punishing yourself for having a really dumb

idea,

> > and proving to yourself that you can fight your way out of it with

patience,

> > tolerance, knowledge and so forth?

>

> Just food for thought. A taste of Sankar from me. Yep, that's right.

Weird,

> a first, !!!!

>

>

> >

> > The Roman road is a stone sword shoved through the heart of the land.

Such

> > disregard for nature has flowed forth from this fallen empire of the

past,

> > which is the model upon which America is based, and the pattern

continues

> > today. For Ceasar thought "I shall kill Celts", and Celts sacrificed

> > themselves, so that they would spread amore in the future. Our Verki

road

> > round this stupid "Sees her" and now the sacrifice shall pay off. Now

that

> > "Brittany Spears" is seen by all, so the spears which killed our Briton

> > brothers shall turn around and attack the killers of the Celtic soul,

the

> > materialists, who are enemies of the truth of the eternal soul. This is

all we

> > playing with us, testing ourselves, and we shall pass the test, for

there is

> > no "I" in bodies, neither Roman nor Celt, only a play of truths, and the

good

> > guy always wins, even the Roiming mans know it, and are made glad

thereby in

> > their heart of hearts.

>

> The first sentence I ripped off from the movie "Druids". A great movie if

> you're a Celt-o-fanatic like me.

>

> This is a loaded paragraph. It may help to know that Verki refers to

> Vercingetorix, the Celtic prince who led the last battles against Caesar,

> but which failed. After that, Rome ruled without much resistence at all

> across France, Switzerland, etc...

>

> When he surrendered, Vercingetorix that is, he rode his horse around

Caesars

> little throne a few times, which is Celtic belief is called "binding",

like

> tieing a rope around something... it's speculation, but we all kindof just

> know that he was thinking that he was somehow also winning, also binding

> Caesar in some way, some contract. He was giving his life, and asking

> something in return. It's very speculative, and "new agey" of me, but I

> believe, that he was basically making sure that Romes then beginning full

> rule over Celtic Europe would somehow either fail, or go towards actually

> ultimately spreading Celtic beliefs, not Roman beliefs, after all,

possibly

> after a long time. In my own beliefs, this is happening, as the great

energy

> of the "Barbarians" he was conquering did lead, for example, to the

creation

> of the internet...which I'm using tonite to spread Druidic thought...

>

> This was my thought when writing the above.

>

> >

> > Those who would seek to perfect material life to their liking are

illusioned,

> > and are the enemies of the soul, and of the wise, and the hearers of the

wise.

> >

> > The motivations of the followers of the wise are always questionable,

until

> > they themselves are wise and follow nobody in particular anymore, except

their

> > destiny and the truth which belongs to anyone who wishes to own it by

not

> > trying to destroy it.

> >

> > The truth is like a cat, if you take care of it and don¹t try to possess

it,

> > it will stay with you.

> >

> > A Brahmin or Druid is a soul part which sees truth actually, and here

fore

> > that part will leave assemblies where lies reign supreme, but they do

not

> > reject the soul parts who stay there, for they leave to take care of

> > themselves, not to disavow unity with those who stay. In other words,

cats and

> > dogs live separately, but cats do not hate dogs, but dogs cannot

understand

> > themselves or cats. (The preference for cats is only a joke, not a

truth,

> > purr hap(en)s)

> >

> > As said by Sri Krishna in his Gita, so it is said by Druids of yore,

that the

> > Supreme is enternally situated in acts of sacrifice.

> >

> > We do not die, rather, we sacrifice, to live again, we die to live,

eternally.

> > This is the unbroken broken circle, the repeating curve, the reason for

the

> > spinning, the pi of the Greeks, the Triskal of the Gauls, and the need

of the

> > Roaming Mans, for 3 times 3 is nine, times 3 again is twenty seven, thus

the

> > unresolvable spinning truth of three is found in the cycle of the Moon,

which

> > is reflective, not generative, and is contrary to the spin of those

aligned

> > with the burning spirit, thus we Gails count days by nights, and our

week is

> > 9, and our month 27, and we always live in heaven, and have nowhere to

go,

> > thus we are not Roaming mans, casting swords of stone through the heart

of the

> > land.

>

> This I hope is clear. It's poetry, but loaded with meaning. 3, as a

number,

> is profound in both Hinduism, Celtism, and Astrology, or Jyotish, because

it

> is the basis of so much of Universal Truth. I hope you see that 3 to it's

> own power, 3*3*3 is 27, the number of Nakshatras, and close to the Moon's

> monthly cycle.

>

> Otherwise, I tell something that is true- the Celts counted days starting

at

> Sundown, hence "fortnight" refers to "fourteen nights", or half a lunar

> month.

>

> They had weeks of 9 days, and a 3 week month of twenty seven days, and

like

> other cultures, refered to Months as "moons". "Before the next Moon..."

etc.

>

> Seeing divinely places one in heaven now, thus one has nowhere to go, and

> thus needs no roads, and thus does not lay them down everywhere, which is

> one of the first things Rome did in Europe- one of the first thing most

> armies do when conquering lands.

>

> "Conquest" means "seek to add". When you "seek to add" something to your

> posessions, you are a "con-quest-or". This implies lust, and greed, and

> killing, usually.

>

>

> >

> > The lingo of the engles is fine speaking for me, for in their fineness

they

> > give finess to the angles this gails speaking.

>

> The "Engles", as in "Anglo Saxxon", was a Germanic tribe. Their language,

or

> "Engle-ish" took over "Engle-Land" at one point. Although they were

> guest-invadors, their language became prevelant. Hence, often those of

> Celtic derivations (those who were the people of England before the

Engles,

> the Saxxons, the Romans, etc.,) will often make clear that "English" is

not

> actually their language.

>

> I am saying "English works for me", and in so doing, hopefully educating

or

> sparking interest in history in others.

>

> The Anglo Saxxons thought often that the Celts were of a lower class. So

> naturally the Celtic mind will fight back against this mood. Later, the

> Anglo Saxxons became known as the "British", when in fact the "Briton"

> tribes that preceded them were tribes not of Engle or Saxxon or Roman

> derivation, but either Celtic or indigenous.

>

> The Engles and Saxxons were therefore "Finer" than the "aborigine" Celts

> etc., and Britain became gradually known for it's "finery" in many ways.

> This trait is not Celtic. For example, in Ireland, there is more a care

> about what you believe than how you act, for example.

>

> So anyway, I'm saying "their finery" is "working for me". I'm just

playing

> games with words, trying to bring to the surface that not all is one in

> "white people". There are different histories, with different emphasis,

and

> understanding this will help to bring about the spiritualization of the

> Western world, for the materialistic treck we've been on is based upon

> dislike for our more eathy tribal roots, which returning to a wee bit will

> help us greatly, I believe.

>

> When one understands what led to modern Europe, starting say 3000 years

> back, of which we do have records thanks to Greek and Roman historians,

then

> one can see alot about where we went wrong.

>

> All of this is being alluded to in my above sentence.

>

>

> >

> > There lay nothing herein I cannot defend, neither insanity nor joke do I

> > pretend, for if a part escapes you then you haven't the know, to

understand it

> > nor perceive it's glow.

>

> See what I mean now?

>

>

> >

> > copy, right?

>

> This means, "do you get it".

>

>

> >

> > roik mach-ai

>

> Richard becames Roik in Scotland, just a way of saying Rick. Mackay is

> really pronounced "Mach-Kai", in Scotland. So going with their Gaelic

> pronciation for now, as there are others, I've spelled out one of names

that

> way. I do this really to show that we have ties to these histories, and

> these histories actually have made us and our societies what they are

today.

> They are not "too old" nor "meaningless". They are recent, and

meaningful.

>

>

> >

> > (called "leading son of the fire clann" by his father, and what need has

he to

> > reject this naming, for neither high nor low sounding naming does he

hear,

> > only toil and struggle are to be found here, and especially a seventh

son, a 3

> > plus a 4, born of Tueton and Gail, to join their hands, a life of

strife, a

> > maker of peace, thus it is not easy, to wear that mantle)

>

> Richard refers to royalty, so I say "leading son" and Mac Kay refers to

> being of the "ai" or fire clann. Again, same thing. Just showing that we

> have histories which are tribal, and we had priests, and believed in

> reincarnation, and we had a whole culture, which has been descimated (I

use

> a Latin root word on purpose).

>

> I am the seventh child, and a son, of my parents.

>

> Seven is 3 plus 4.

>

> The Celts used 3 everywhere, for it's relationship to nature, which was

> their altar, and the basis of their culture and faiths.

>

> 4 is more angular and masculine, and found more in Roman ways, and the

ways

> of the Tuetonic tribes, from which the Schwabbin, Engles, Saxxons, and

other

> Germanic tribes flow. 3 times 4 is twelve, thus the balance of life is

found

> in the combining of masculinity and femininity, or the God and Goddess.

>

> My mother was Irish, and my Father basically Germanic. So I'm saying I

have

> both.

>

> I'm saying that we have to find the merging of these two to help the

world,

> and to help ourselves.

>

> As usual, I'm using my own life as an example.

>

> I am speaking in hidden ways originally, but now I hope I'm more clear.

>

> I have a few friends who know me here in this town, and we speak of "the 3

> people" and the "4 people", or the "way of 3", etc. These refer to Goddess

> and God, Sky Father and Earth Mother, and their children cultures. It's

not

> about judgement or racism, but understanding and truth, knowledge, and

> ultimately, celebrates the diversity.

>

> I do not believe that burrying the past and it's truths will help us. I do

> believe knowing it all leads to personal and global understanding. Only if

> the truth is out, can it help us.

>

> Peace.

>

> Wow, this was alot of typing.

>

> Out,

>

> Roik

>

>

> >

>

>

>

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> : gjlist-

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

>

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