Guest guest Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 Both are correct. There were many "Merlins". The Merlin is a title. It is given to the highest male Druid (they were named for birds of the air, raptors), just as the Lady of The Lake was a title given to the highest female Druid practitioner. They would act in consort to achieve the highest forms of worship, and represented the male and female aspects of the old religion, very reminiscent of the Vedic dicotomies. The "estate" of the Lady of the Lake was on Avalon Island in the middle of the lake. Out of bounds to the menfolk, except at certain times of the year. The closest practitioners today are on the Isle of Man. This is a contraction for Manhannon, the Celtic god of the sea. Druidic practices have evolved to the current practices of Wicken, the corruption of which gives us the word witch. In the Arthurian legends, Merlin stands for the Old Ways, Launcelot for the New Religion (Christianity) and Arthur stands smack in the middle of the conflict, which produces his downfall. So, the legend is one of allegory or a morality play. There was an Arthurus, a Briton warlord at the time of the Roman occupation of Britain, and his fortress was called "The Camel Yard" because he did have camels stolen or obtained from the Roman North African legions. This was later called Camel Lot or Camelot. It has been embellished and made more fanciful with the ages, evolving to T.S.Elliot's Merlin Legends, and others. John "Sean" Melka *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 8/3/2003 at 4:41 PM Boone wrote: >Das, >I think Merlin is real because my own epoch is caught up with so many clues >about where to find him. Several dreams have pointed to the "guidance of a >wizard". Once I was about to get caught up in some crazy scene(in and out >of >a dream) and a police car pulled up with lights flashing and the name >Merlin >on the door, it sent the perps running. roik said: >> >> Merlin is a perhaps true, perhaps not true being, but who stands for the >> archetypical Druid, yes. So his life is myth, but perhaps he really lived >in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 Hello John: Do the Druids on the Isle of Man practice astrology? Lydia - "John Melka" <jmelka <gjlist> Sunday, August 03, 2003 6:00 PM Re[2]: [GJ] A BEAUTIFUL PRAYER > Both are correct. There were many "Merlins". The Merlin is a title. It is given to the highest male > Druid (they were named for birds of the air, raptors), just as the Lady of The Lake was a title given to > the highest female Druid practitioner. They would act in consort to achieve the highest forms of worship, > and represented the male and female aspects of the old religion, very reminiscent of the Vedic dicotomies. > The "estate" of the Lady of the Lake was on Avalon Island in the middle of the lake. Out of > bounds to the menfolk, except at certain times of the year. > > The closest practitioners today are on the Isle of Man. This is a contraction for Manhannon, the Celtic > god of the sea. Druidic practices have evolved to the current practices of Wicken, the corruption of which > gives us the word witch. > > In the Arthurian legends, Merlin stands for the Old Ways, Launcelot for the New Religion (Christianity) and > Arthur stands smack in the middle of the conflict, which produces his downfall. So, the legend is one of > allegory or a morality play. There was an Arthurus, a Briton warlord at the time of the Roman occupation of > Britain, and his fortress was called "The Camel Yard" because he did have camels stolen or obtained from the > Roman North African legions. This was later called Camel Lot or Camelot. It has been embellished and > made more fanciful with the ages, evolving to T.S.Elliot's Merlin Legends, and others. > > John "Sean" Melka > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > On 8/3/2003 at 4:41 PM Boone wrote: > > >Das, > >I think Merlin is real because my own epoch is caught up with so many clues > >about where to find him. Several dreams have pointed to the "guidance of a > >wizard". Once I was about to get caught up in some crazy scene(in and out > >of > >a dream) and a police car pulled up with lights flashing and the name > >Merlin > >on the door, it sent the perps running. > > roik said: > >> > >> Merlin is a perhaps true, perhaps not true being, but who stands for the > >> archetypical Druid, yes. So his life is myth, but perhaps he really lived > >in Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 Did their knowledge of astrology come through higher states of awareness or was it borrowed from another culture? Lydia - "Das Goravani" <> <gjlist> Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:18 PM Re: Re[2]: [GJ] A BEAUTIFUL PRAYER > > The Isle of Man is one of the Celtic holdouts, and was Celtic long ago like > the rest of Britain and Ireland. It should be understood from the mythology > that all Druids knew astrology to one degree or another, as for example, > it's mentioned by Caesar, as well as found in the Irish mythologies written > by the Christian monks, as in where the hero "Koo Collin" heard the Druid > say "The planets portend that whoever takes arms today will live a short but > glorious life"... it's mentioned here and there. It was also understood > for example, that being born on a waxing moon was better in general than > waning, which we hear in Jyotish as well. > > So it's understood that Druids were into astrology. > > And druids and Celts etc lived on the Isle of Man, where Manx, a dieing > dialect of our ancient language is currently breathing it's last breaths. > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 The Isle of Man is one of the Celtic holdouts, and was Celtic long ago like the rest of Britain and Ireland. It should be understood from the mythology that all Druids knew astrology to one degree or another, as for example, it's mentioned by Caesar, as well as found in the Irish mythologies written by the Christian monks, as in where the hero "Koo Collin" heard the Druid say "The planets portend that whoever takes arms today will live a short but glorious life"... it's mentioned here and there. It was also understood for example, that being born on a waxing moon was better in general than waning, which we hear in Jyotish as well. So it's understood that Druids were into astrology. And druids and Celts etc lived on the Isle of Man, where Manx, a dieing dialect of our ancient language is currently breathing it's last breaths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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